Has there ever been a more cowardly way to fight?

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The French knights at Agincourt thought the English archers were cowards, too. Bitches gonna bitch.

>>33442254
Honor and courage mean little to a force that is able to send in cheap remotely piloted aircraft that drop bombs all over you.

>>33442254

Yes, never declaring a war.

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>>33442254
There's never been a more comfy way to fight, that's for sure.

Sending young men to their deaths doing your bidding while you sit behind a desk and complain that your projector isn't big enough

>>33442254
Yeah it's called mechanized infantry.

This whole drone bullshit will make war pretty boring. Hopefully AIs take over the world quickly so we don't have to deal with this bullshit.

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>>33442254

maybe

>>33442299
Artillery crews could suffer return fire, and their sidearms weren't for nothing.

>>33442299

>I don't know what counter-battery fire is
>I'm 12

>>33442283
This. Apple can have the world. Just give me my robot waifu and a dark corner to fuck her in. It's all I ask.

>>33442254
Yeah: Staying at home and protesting those who fight for your freedom to protest.

Get the fuck off you hippie-scum. There aint no honor or cowardice in battle. Only winning or losing.

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>>33442261
>cheap
L O L

>>33442254
>chivalry
>after the advent of the bow

Unless it's hand to hand there's no honor in it.

>>33442548
He's talking about the ISIS drones senpai

>>33442548
>posting that retarded image

Kys

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>airfags
>brave

Since when has anything the Air Force was involved in been considered brave?

>>33442569
>chivalry
>after the advent of throwable rocks

>>33442254
>"fite me irl coward"
>gets hit with a thermobaric missile
>some chucklefuck still in college scratches another tally mark on a notepad close by

>>33442576
Why? Serious question here.

>inb4 hurr a Javelin only costs $41524,16

The idea is not wrong, or is it?

>>33442254
I dunno, i think strapping bombs to kids and blowing them up in front of the enemy is pretty cowardly too

>>33442254
And what do you think of anyone els in aviation against our current enemy? our current cave dwelling goat fucker enemy does not posses the tech to shoot down an A-10 or an F-16 so what does it matter these guys do the same thing with the world's most expensive RC planes.

>>33442543
Fucking this.

>I defeat all my enemies by strapping razor blades to my dick and fucking them to death.

>>33442543
>fighting for freedom
>anyone since 1945

>>33442254
Brave, cowardly, whatever; the guy who's alive at the end is the guy who won the fight.

>>33442578
Idk man one of my instructors joined because he loves aviation.

And if you saw the ship this guy does and the way he fucking flies, you would never think of him as anything less than brave.

Mother fucker has balls of diamonds.

I was army and my pilots were bitches.
"Oh I have a tummy ache I can't sit down and fly the helicopter." fuckin pussy.

"Oh I can't go fucking destroy isis right now, I feel sick"
>plays world of war craft for 6 hours
YOU FUCKING MANGINA

>>33442254
Poison

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Has there ever been a more cowardly way to fight?

Obviously joking. But if anyone wants to help make the point that op is an idiot they can also post an attack helicopter, fighter jet, machine gun, explosives, booby traps, tanks, the list goes on and on. I haven't even touched on classical bitching of new technology. Check out the guy with his fancy single shots, can't use a sword like a real man.

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>>33442977

>>33442578
since AA has existed

>>33442254
Yes let's challenge ISIS to one on one fist fights until they're all defeated.

I fight to win and that means never fighting fair. Fuck off, faggot.

>>33442254

>wearing modern body armor is unfair
>using night vision is unfair
>artillery is unfair
>air assets are unfair
>naval gunfire/missile arty is unfair
>tanks/light armor assets are unfair

Why would you want the fight to be fair? The more equally matched the 2 opposing forces are, the more men have to die before the conflict is over. Do you want a long, drawn out conventional war against a technologically inferior force, when you have the option of a quick, overwhelming victory?

>HURR WE ARENT WINNING AGAINST THE BLACK PAJAMAS, TECHNOLOGY BTFO!!
Guerilla wars are really hard to win. We arent arguing foreign policy, we're arguing about how technology can help make wars less costly (in lives) for our side

>>33442254
why aren't these niggas in jeans and t-shirts. wtf is the point of wearing a flight suit to play a videogame?

>>33442543
No one has fought for anyone's freedoms since 1945. Plenty of people were willing, but no one has actually done it.
t. a vet

>>33442254
Anti personnel land mines

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>>33442254
>muh honor!

I bet you don't CC because "real men fight with their hands"

>>33442257
i miss 2004.

but why doesn't that caption say, "these -- come and get them"

>>33443113

>>33442996
That's a picture of grass you moron

>>33442254
>nerf drone
>1v1 me in DotA faggot
>you only won because x

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yeah
suicide bombers, car bombs, chemical weapons
good thing we have drones to deal with such scum

>>33442934
You don't fire a fucking javelin on a god damn tent or enemy personel, you fire that shit on enemy tanks which even if are old cost few million. It's a god fucking deal spending 80k to destroy something worth few millons, but libshits who don't know jack fucking shit about military thinks those things are given away to every soldier like it's some fucking call of duty.

>>33444335
>Jackson! Pick up that javelin!

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>tfw enlisting air force
>tfw will never get to pilot a drone and rain hellfire on ISIS

If you don't think a drone pilot would be the coolest thing you're a homosexual.

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Islamic extremist savages have been known to use chemical weapons on civilians, children as human shields, and other low blow tactics. If you think drones are cowardly you are actually dumb.

>>33442254
Honor is great for duels, but war is a dirtier business.

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>>33444035
>He doesn't know that flight suits are actually just super cozy pajamas

They're like onsies anon.

>>33444750
Enlisted can be drone pilots now. Granted it's just Hawks but hey.. if you wanna get the workload of an officer and get paid half as much as your peers go right fucking ahead my dear.

>>33442578
Buttmad muhreen detected

>>33444750
You can become a sensors operator anon, get to sit in the box and control the camera and the laser while the officer does everything else.

>>33444883
Senior enlisted only.

>>33444335
I've seen videos of the US military firing Javelins at everything but tanks.

>>33442941
Came here to post this. Ied's in general too

>>33442254
Gas shelling

>>33442548
When you think of all the equipment, money, gas, weapons, special training, housing, and food it takes to turn Randy Rando into Combat Pilot you can bet your ass drones are cheaper.

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>>33442254
Has there ever been a more cowardly way to fight?

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>>33444201
mild kek, well done.

>>33444335
How do you justify this then? And just by going through suggestions you may find many more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xz5Jprzv800

Hellfires, javelins are used against soft targets because their range and accuracy is much better than anything else and they save lives. But the question remains.

>>33444035
Because they're at work, anon, and that's the dress code.

>>33443113
>Guerilla wars are really hard to win.
Bull. They just take a long time to win. It took America over 200 years to finish off the one at home.

The trick is to alternate between periods of brutal violence and throwing food and money at them to keep them pacified. At the same time you need to isolate the enemy's demographics from each other and intensify their internal conflicts while exporting your own people onto their lands.

tl:dr You win the Middle East by convincing them to kill each other and then moving into their houses.

>>33444053
>Americans fighting for freedom
>In WW2

The last time any Americans fought for freedom was 1865. And they lost.

>>33445916
Not him, but some would say a war taking long time is a war that is hard to win.

>>33444125
This and also, chemical and biological weapons. A round is a round, after it hits something its over. Mines, chemical and biological weapons contaminate an area for a long time with unknown long term effects. After the war is over, these areas remain denied or produce many casualties for a long time, almost always civilians. It is 'unfair' in the sense that these weapons no longer fulfill a military purpose.

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>>33442934
The Javelin is not an anti-personnel weapon; it’s an anti-tank missile. You don’t use it to kill random infantry, but multi-million-dollar tanks.

>>33445956
>being this retarded

>>33446181
Refer to this >>33445585 hellfire is even more expensive but still being used for people out in the open.

>>33446181
See, you say that, buuuttt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BecUzACx9AA

>>33445984
That's because Millennials have no attention span or patience.

>>33445956

>g-germany were the good guys!!

>>33446291
So what do you think about the fact that most casualties in Iraq were during insurgency phase rather than the invasion phase? Do millenials have no attention span or patience or life expectancy? What is the point you are trying to make?

>>33446181
>>33444335

Jeezes, dont they have acces to Youtube or something where you live? Every modern army have been using Javelin and Hellfire as a big "fuck you", modern times Whack-a-mole against single durka durka's for 15 + years

>>33446324
Oh yes, two comparable timeframes are totally comparable. Great job anon!

>>33446344
I don't understand. You said insurgencies were not hard to beat but rather it just takes long time to beat them. In a counter argument to this I am giving the Iraqi War in which invasion was decisive with low casualties and insurgency was very slow and painful. How is this easier than anything else?

What timeframe are you talking about? Civil war? But the topic was never about civil war in US and it was about recent wars.

>>33446377
You are pretty dense, anon.

>>33446393
Yes I am, please explain.

>>3333446402

Let's expand on your logic.


I was hurt once in Iraq during my 3 month stint, but I was hurt many, many times in America throughout my lifre. Clearly America is far more dangerous than Iraq.

>>33444053
Why should I care what some animal doctor thinks about the military? Go give another dog a de-worming enema.

>>33446420
That is a terrible analogy, you can't summarize wars like that and we have all the data available.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_invasion_of_Iraq
So invasion period is over and done in 1 month, 1 week and 4 days with 196+ casualties.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_War
Iraq War in total however took 8 years and 4000+ coalition casualties in total.

So please tell me how is fighting against an insurgency is not hard?

>>33444750
The pilot just flies it and pulls the trigger, the enlisted sensor operator does all the important stuff

>>33446456
Let me expand, fighting against an insurgency takes more time more resources and more lives to be somewhat successful. How is this easy? Yeah they may have lost men at the same rate they were losing during the invasion phase but the fact that there was an insurgency that haven't been defeated kept us there. I still don't see your point.

>>33446456
Your right. Do the math of people killed per day. One is about 7x as harder than the other one.

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>>33442578
air force special ops anon, they exist.

>>33446483
>same rate

Wew lad.

>>33446505
I know you are just trolling now. Have an A1 day sir.

>>33446554
Says the man who claims people died at the same rate.

>>33442548

What a fucking stupid and meaningless comment.

I bet the fucking tard who wrote that doesn't know what the average lifetime social security cost is of a drooling, mouth breather citizen.

Or the cost to treat a faggot with HIV suppressing drugs.

>>33444750
Should've joined the army. Grey eagle is cool af. Sure 2-13th will make your life hell for 9-12 months, but I mean, grey eagle my colored American.

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>>33442269
Underrated post

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>>33442254
>coward
>fight
Those terms are mutually exclusive to anyone who isn't a bushido espousing retard

>>33442397
>getting this mad
spotted the arty guy

>>33446393
>i dont have an argument but im just going to pretend you dont understand instead

>>33442254
Let me tell you about a concept know as a "virtual theater of war".
During a war, enemy soldiers are fair game no matter where they are thus creating a virtual theater where they are.
It would be legal to bomb or attack a base with drone operators. Kill active duty drone operators when they are walking around.
The point is, by fighting from far away you inadvertently make it legal for enemy forces to bomb your town (if that's where military personnel are).

>>33448830
with how far into bases most drones units are, it'd almost be impossible to miss and hit the surrounding area. unless it was a "miss"

>>33448830
>Bombing Ft Huachuca
I'd be impressed if you could pull that off without initiating Global Thermonuclear War.