africa edition
>>33437451
Stop.
>>33437451
you didn't need to start it this way
>>33437451
>all that milsurp destroyed
>ukraines depot completely blown the fuck up
IT'S ANOTHER SHOAH
>>33437451
Kek, when they figure out that that fire isn't going to destroy more than half of those weapons.
r8 my 1903
>>33437852
Nice.
>>33437852
Hand hewn by artisan dwarves
>>33437873
Gilded by the elves of shanadoah
>>33437872
that thing is busted up
>>33437900
Looks like a typical remington to me.
>>33437900
Na, it's just old. Still shoots fine, on the rare occasions I shoot it.
>>33437451
god it hurts so much
why do people hurt guns ;.;
>>33437564
Except that this one actually happened.
what shit do you guys use to maintain your milsurp?
is hoppes/Remington shit good?
and what kind of oil/grease should I use for lubricating the bolt/lugs of a m1903A3? I won one a few weeks ago and noticed that though everything is smooth it seems very dry or maybe that's just the finish.
>>33438709
wd 40
>>33438709
Any gun oil would be fine. Really, even motor oil would be fine too desu.
>>33438743
WD40 isn't that good.
>>33437564
watching those videos made me so sad
literally no chance at cheap Russian surplus now.
Well surpaholics. I finally got it seperated.
I'm 99.99% positive everything is original to this rifle. Minus the missing screws.
Tons of grease on the inside. Kinda makes me curious why it was pre-greased to hell before issue. Certainly helps the aftermarket condition though.
>>33439620
did the qtip trick actually work?
>>33438709
Tool oil for any friction surfaces, auto grease for any other metal surfaces.
Repostan new mas
Mixing it up with something British.
>>33439989
British you say?
>>33439929
Basically the exact opposite of that. Lubriplate grease (anti-microbial and non-toxic) for any friction surfaces. Tool oil for any other surface that you want to prevent rust on.
>>33439851
Not even close. Shit cooled off before it even hit the metal.
I said fuck it and used an impact drill on the lowest speed with a nice fitting bit. The head was already goobered, but it worked surprising well with really no damage to the screw. I'm replacing it anyway since the threads were basically pure rust, but it was a nice trick.
>>33438709
I use Hornady one shot for any non'wear surfaces.
Moly grease for any metal on metal contact
I only use hoppes oil or clop for the bore since the fist shot is going to ruin all the cleaning work anyway.
why the fuck were all the guns back then 14 feet long? Weren't there more manlets at the time? How did they use this shit?
>>33438709
that recipe with linseed oil and shit from surplusrifle.com
I honestly don't remember how to make it I just have a 5 gallon bucket in the garage.
>>33440289
you see Ivan...
when barrel is of touch other man chest you less chance of miss
or something
>>33440043
>Not even close. Shit cooled off before it even hit the metal.
damn ;_;
>>33440289
>muh sight radius
>muh muzzle velocity
>muh maximum range
In seriousness, early powders burned a lot slower, right? So they needed more barrel to accelerate the bullet to a proper rifle speed. Couple that with the ancient firearm tradition of making the stock really long and placing the receiver really far from the stock that didn't really go away until WWI or later, and you get these monstrosities.
>>33437451
Fucking hell, you would think that being as poor as they are they would use those themselves or scrap them for spare parts but they are just too dense.
>>33440289
>>33440438
Also bayonet drills called for maximum reach. That is why hilariously long rifles get hilariously long bayonets
>>33440440
They get paid generously by 1st world white-guilt counties to do this shit, they're not just retarded.
>>33440438
>>33440289
It's mostly for shooting in a line. No one likes the muzzle of the guy standing behind you being right next to your ear.
>>33440289
>How did they use this shit?
The same way we do now.
>>33440289
They had real men who didn't wear tight pants back then.
Also they were trying to hit people 2800 meters away while shooting a 400 grain round nosed bullet with sniper accuracy.
>>33440289
A variety of reasons. Line shooting, people not knowing you don't need a 30in barrel to achieve maximum velocity, bayonet drills, existing tooling from old black powder rifles, unrealistic marksmanship expectations, and probably a bunch of stuff I can't remember.
>>33437451
My new Finnish M91 doesn't have a date or arsenal stamp under the receiver tang. Anybody else experience this? I thought all the Mosins had that stamp. Wonder why the Finns would scrub it off if they did.
>>33440271
The only thing I'd change on the M48 is I'd like it if it had a 98k or 98az bolt and knob cutout in the stock.
Nice rifle though
>>33440703
Nope, my M39 didn't have a date either.
>>33440734
Interesting. I was hoping to find out it was made in 1894 by Chatlerault or something equally unrealistic but awesome.
Know I'll never know anything else except it was assembled in 1943 by Tikka.
>>33440791
*now I'll never know
>>33440791
Yeah I was hoping the same thing. Oh well, I got a sweet Peruvian 1891 as a trade.
will some of these rifles still function after being used in a bon fire? I imagine springs might be permanently fucked
>>33440722
Thanks man
>>33440703
If there is like an R in a circle it's Remington. I think Chatellerault also didn't date them.
>>33440734
hmm mayve i should check my tang sometime. literally never looked
>>33441623
Checking my tang was the first thing I did after getting ahold of some good screwdrivers.
No date, but lots of nice brass shims tacked into the stock...barrel is even free floated from the receiver all the way to the end of the stock. I haven't shot mine yet, but I have a feeling it's gonna blow my mind.
>>33440902
No problem. Don't let it go, cos I had an M48 and I traded it for an Arisaka and I deeply regret it.
>>33439620
whats the story behind this.
>go to the range
>see a guy with a nice K31
>complement him on it
>"yeah, I'm saving up to buy some $1k tacticool bullshit to replace the existing stock"
>takes everything I have to resist strangling him
>>33441699
Absolutely sacrilege
>>33441699
>within a few years he will hate himself for destroying good milsurp
>>33441685
Good thing I can resist the temptation that is grorious Nippon steel
>>33441810
how?
>>33441829
I don't want to empty my wallet to kill paper anymore than I already do
>>33441858
i never want to reach that point
>>33440389
>you see faggot....
> your shit isnt funny
>>33440440
Fuck man, I had the same thought.
Hell, they wouldn't even have to separate them.
I'd sell them, 150$-200$ U.S. for a random one out of the pile. 200$ buys a lot of food... hell anywhere but especially in Africa.
Fuck, I'd buy 2 just to see what I get. Would be fun.
>>33437451
Who's got the Benjamins for this bad boy?
http://cmpauction.thecmp.org/detail.asp?id=3874&n=M1-Garand-Service-SA3287
>>33437451
What's up nerds, I've got a M24/47 Yugo Mauser that has a rough ass action. Seemingly something is dragging on the extractor causing it to sometimes hang up while workan the bolt. Any ideas? I really just want to go polish the issue spot and see if that fixes anything but I'm afraid it's supposed to be like that.
>>33437451
you're an asshole OP
>>33439620
they fucking pinned the stock screws on mine. Not sure which bastards did this the Americans when they imported them or the jappanese
>>33442486
The Japanese did because under the stock was protective grease that would keep the metal from rusting.
>>33441751
People who are retarded like that will see what they did as an improvement and will charge accordingly.
>>33438709
hohoohoohohohoho
i had a book as a kid by one of the SAS guys that was part of this.
>Nice
>>33442139
Well, I have the cash but I already have a Garand and honestly don't care much for them. Much rather have something rare. Like pic related.
>>33442139
Holy shit I just read the description.... who the fuck would pay that much for that piece of shit?
>>33443358
No shit, for that money you could get some really nice guns, even M1 Garands in much better condition from reputable dealers.
>>33443342
Words can't describe how jealous I am.
>>33437463
Got any more pictures of the Greek? How hard are they to find? Greek guns tickle my pickle.
>>33443495
Then I probably shouldn't mention it's my 2nd Mas 49.
I don't have a Berthier though....yet.
>>33443522
Sure do, and apparently they're fairly hard to find these days. Trying to find a carbine for my wife has been a bitch.
>>33443533
That makes me feel a certain way. What does it fire?
>>33443541
6.5x54 Mannlicher-Schoenauer.
>>33441699
Get over it. Unless it's a museum piece, it's just a cheap used bolt gun.
I am going to buy a rebarreld k98 in a new "historical" stock and there is nothing you can do to stop me. Ivans mixed and matched capture with rusty, shot out bore isnt worth losing sleep over. At least the action lives on instead of going on a trash heap.
Pulling apart a 1a condition matching numbers rifle is a different story.
>33443570 (you)
Get it out of your system champ.
>33443587 (you)
Would you rather people shooting, handling, damaging, wearing out matching good condition guns or doing so with rebuilt/"sporterized" guns, given the former weren't harmed in the process?
>>33437451
>mfw beautiful guns get destroyed "in the name of peace" by hateful bigots and globalists
>>33441689
No real story to tell. It was an Arisaka in piss poor cosmetic condition that the seller was too dumb to post decent pictures of. So it was bought sight unseen for 160ish
Was just sharing the mystery raifu
>>33444019
It doesn't look unrecoverable, and with the bore likely being chrome lined it should be fine.
Are you able to make out the factory?
>>33444140
Yea, its a Kokura, 22series i think. Bolt matching.
It'll clean up nicely with some tlc, duffle cut is just tedious repair work. I'll wait til its nice out to start.
>>33444502
With the cleaning process, they used copper to plate the chrome to the steel, so don't use any copper corroding chemicals.
https://www.classicfirearms.com/yugo-sks-semi-auto-762-39-original-condition-pti
I'm looking for my first C&R buy. Is this worth it?
>>33445072
Its fair. Yugos are very good SKSs, they just don't have chrome bores.
I can't say how well Serbia took care of them though
So my grandpa gave me this Yugo Mauser as a gift since all my other cousins and siblings are liberal pansies. It shoots great and seems to be in good condition (all the bluing is all intact, bore has great rifling and no pitting/rust, etc). The only thing he changed was adding that scope on the rear sight mount. Should I leave it as is, or should I swap it back to the original sights? He claims the original sights were a bitch to use, which is why he changed them out.
>>33445522
I think the sights are fairly easy to use, especially with the front hood. The only problem is that they're 200 meter zero.
>>33445537
That might cause a problem then. My local range has a maximum of 100 yards (shitty, I know), so that would make aiming rather difficult. I guess I'll stick to the scope for now, although I would prefer the look of the original sights. It's too bad that it doesn't have an elevation adjustment like an SKS or so on.
>>33443342
>>33443358
>>33443386
The 3,XXX serial number is what makes it so valuable. Not to mention that you can't get a Garand from the CMP anymore for less than $800, and even then it's going to be a mixmaster,
>>33445571
>It's too bad that it doesn't have an elevation adjustment like an SKS or so on.
It does, but the elevations start at 200m. This doesn't mean you can't shoot at things closer than that however. FWIW, my Yugo M24/47 shoots a bit low at 100 yards using Yugo M49 ball ammo; I assume because at that distance the bullet is still rising in its arc and hasn't intersected the sight axis yet. It will be different for whatever load you feed through it.
>>33445731
I meant the front sight adjustment for elevation. In the case of the SKS, you can freely change its zero to whatever you need by setting the rear to 100 meters and then moving the front sight up/down as needed.
I guess I'll give the original rear sight a try some time though. It might be annoying though, since I'll have to zero the scope again should I choose to put it back on.
>>33443342
> 1k for a MAS
why did you do that?
>>33445834
Find one cheaper boss. Not a Syrian one either.
>>33445911
2BH would prefer a Syrian; I like that bayonet.
>>33445928
Being a Frankaboo, I need it to be as issued to French troops. I'll get my bayonet fix when I get a Mas 44.
Also check out my MAS' bayonet.
>>33443570
A k98 is a polish gun
>>33446056
It's a potato launcher made from plumbing supplies?
>>33446045
Why would someone do this
looking to buy an od m65 jacket but my local milsurp store is out of my sizes, should i buy a black one or wait for what could be an eternity?
>>33446236
I.. i kinda like it. Its heresy, but aesthetic
>>33446583
Wrong milsurp thread chief. You want the clothing one. This is the firearms one.
>>33446683
oh sorry, ctrl+f catalog didn't find a hit on "camo" so i searched milsurp, my bad
>>33440519
>They had real men who didn't wear tight pants back then.
This is objectively false, these tight pants conquered most of Europe. Don't be salty we're going back to proper pants and away form your disgusting trash bag pants, barbarian.
>>33437463
Stop what?
>>33447829
Whatever could it be?
>>33447842
Oh my
>>33447864
Looks to be in a shootable condition.
>>33443525
I want your sexy lebel, friend.
>>33447864
Bit o' rust electrolysis treatment and it'll be good as new!
https://youtu.be/vEQf21dCtFQ
>>33439397
It was mostly artillery stuff IIRC
>>33448304
I love my Lebel so much. I don't want to say it's underrated, because it sucks in a lot of ways, but at the same time it is so much fucking fun to shoot.
>want to buy a lebel
>want to buy an SMLE mkIII
>want to buy an M44 mosin
>want to buy a swedish mauser
>want to buy a k31
what the fuck did I get myself into
>>33448878
Welcome to the "I want to buy this 50+ year old hunk of wood/metal for outrageous prices" club.
>>33441938
Does she have a death wish?
A fucking Veterlli? Unless that's one of the non-converted ones I GUESS it's fine.
Anybody shot a BM-59, specifically the ones they're selling on classicfirearms? I think they look fucking cool and are a pretty neat piece of milsurp, I was probably going to order one this weekend except that they apparently ran out. Is there any good reason to not get one? Think they're going to bump the price if/when they come back in stock? $1300 seems a bit steep, but then again I have nothing to compare to because they never show up on gunbroker.
>>33448878
Just wait until you start hunting unicorns.
are Brazilian mausers good?
J&G has some antique ones
>>33449237
They're fine. Have some of the coolest crests of any Mauser, which is half the reason to buy one.
>>33448958
Its dine regardless pussy.
Blackpowder rifles arn't as delicate as overly protective manchildren think
Source: I've shot my ITALIAN vetterli with surplus 6.5
>>33449257
nevermind I just read the listing
not really worth it to me
>>33448550
>because it sucks in a lot of ways,
They just make them more interesting.
One day I'll have to get an actual Matching Lebel.
>>33449145
Uh oh..
what's an example of a unicorn?
----side question----
what is a reasonable price for an antique lebel?
>>33445522
Visit your Grandpa as much as you can Anon, and never sell that fucking gun
>>33449340
$650.
And a unicorn would be something like a RSC 1917, or pic related (sort of).
>>33448878
>want to buy a m44
I want to sell one
>>33449376
Thanks!
Both of those are really cool. Looking forward to go through the basics to get there someday. Not going to push too quickly tho (mainly due to prices, of course)
Got a pointy bit for my Gew.98.
I wanna go shoot so bad but my next day off is Thursday. Send help!
Anyone have experience with the "cracked" M39s that Classic is selling?
>>33449737
If you're persistent you can find good deals. But you have to hunt every day.
>>33449810
I have to wait until Saturday. And I know my "range" is gonna be crowded as fuck.
Finally got a Gew.98! Before and after.
>>33450213
Also picked up a Chilean Modelo 1912 this weekend.
>>33449984
Got one. Metal is as described and there was a superficial crack in the front of the stock and some cracks on the butt. YMMV.
>>33449145
One of my Unicorns was the Berdanka rifle. It took me a few years but at one time I owned three of them.
I would like to find a Czarist muzzle loader at some point.
>>33450213
That's quite the wire wheel you got there bubba
>>33450213
Mauser-brand Mauser
Nice.
>>33450253
Also very nice.
This is a wartime bayonet, of the pattern now referred to as EB9 by collectors. These were actually made early in the war as production of the SG.98/05 could not be as rapidly accelerated. It goes well with my rifle, which as the highest serial number known for 1914 was probably made after hostilities commenced.
>>33439263
Correct on WD, gets rid of water, that's about it.
>>33450335
My current one is a Mas 44. I'll find one soon enough.
This bayonet knows how we roll around here.
Also there is a number on the crossguard. Generally these are applied by Turkey, but I've never known the Turks to use letters in their serial numbers. Further research is required.
>>33451255
>Fag
nice
Still has the frog and the knot on it too.
>>33451393
>>33451255
>>33451057
Neat
>>33445571
youll be fine, with irons you just have to aim like 6 or 8" lower at 100 yards. basically aiming at the bottom of a standard 100 yrd black bullseye will get you printing just at the top of the bullseye
>>33445800
people tap out the front sight blade and install a taller one for shooting at close range, you could do that too if you wanted to. personally i like to keep them original and just compensate my aim
>>33447864
where was that found? the condition of the wood leads me to believe it was not buried, but probably in an attic or barn. the wood looks sunbleached actually, like the gun was left somewhere totally exposed to elements but above ground
>>33449050
havent shot one but was next to someone who was. it was a jammomatic, they couldnt figure out how to make it run. not sure if thats a common complaint of them or what though
>>33451478
Thanks; I like your T38. I have my eye on one at an auction in a couple weeks.
>>33451617
They are great fun to go plink with. No recoil, no perceivable concussion, 300yrd battle sight though.
Also had 10 of my 11 Mausers all in one place today. Of course it immediately rained when I got them all out to take a picture, so I made due with poor indoor lighting.
>>33452092
The only Japanese rifles I really want are the T30 and T38 long rifles. That musket-length elegance.
>>33452135
The Type 30 has a really nice trigger too.
>>33452179
There's a T30 at this auction too but it's been converted to short-rifle length.
>German autism unrelated
>>33450213
epic
Should I buy a Luger?
Local place has one for what seems like a decent deal
>>33452828
>Should I buy a Luger?
AK-48
>>33452828
I've always wanted a repro so I don't have to feel bad about beating it up in the woods, but the fucking repros cost the same as original german-manufacture frankenguns. drives me crazy.
>>33452828
>>33452828
whats the deal?
>>33442055
humor is subjective you cunt
>>33452828
yes
>>33448958
it's a swiss 10.4x38r, 260gr .429 cast pure lead paper patched behind 50gr's of FFG, 1cc of cream of wheat. does about 1200 fps. could probably go hotter. I have an Italian converted to 6.5 but I don't shoot that one.... yet.
>>33453012
Thanks for defending me guy, but it wasn't really that funny
>>33452640
Last month I passed up a Type 38 Cavalry rifle and a Mexican Arisaka. The guy had probably one of every Japanese smokeless rifle. Got my Type 30 carbine from him though.
>>33452988
Interwar unmarked police rework for 1k
>>33453087
The Navy pattern is so good.
>>33454518
>a Mexican Arisaka.
What did he want for it?
>>33454683
$800 I think. I'd have bought it but... Well I can't get everything at once.
I never got a reply cuz the thread died but in the last one I had said something about a local shop having a MAS 36 and a MAS 36/51 for 500 each. Couple people said that was a little high but someone had said that's good only if it's WWII correct. Anyone know what he meant?
>>33455283
If its a WW2 rifle then that's a good price. If it's a post war refurb, which is very likely, then it's at the upper end of current prices, and you can find one cheaper. Easiest way to tell if it's WW2 correct or not is to look at the front sight. If it has a hood, it's a refurb. If it has sight wings, like pic related, then it's WW2 correct.
My 49 came in!
I've missed having one of these.
Needs a good cleaning, plenty of cosmoline in it.
Trigger is better than my other 49 though, but not by much.
And of course the bore is essentially perfect. I probably shouldn't shoot this one, since it was still in arsenal wrap until 30 minutes ago but... I shoot my guns.
>>33455495
Got any pics of it still wrapped up? What was also wrapped up with it? Any accessories? That's a pretty late refurb.
>>33437451
I was going through my uncles stuff today found a Lee Enfield MK 3, M1 Garand 46 Springfield made, M39 Mosin, and a Springfield 1903. Are any of these worth anything or should I look for more markers?
>>33455329
What's the average price range for a WWII one and a refurb one just so I can get an idea? Hopefully it doesn't have a sight hood.
>>33455956
>Are these worth anything?
Nope just transfer them to me please.
Of course they're worth something. Both money wise and sentimental value.
>>33456015
He isn't dead yet but he doesn't seem to really care for them. He does have a couple rifles from his childhood that have more sentimental value to him. These rifles he picked up at gun shows. I understand the historical value behind them. That's the main reason I wouldn't want to get rid of them. He paid maybe 300 dollars back in the 90's for the lot of them.
>>33455885
Two mags, manual, cleaning kit, mag pouch, and a canvas cover for the action in guessing. And no pics at the moment of it wrapped up but you can check the ones from the auction on Gunbroker here >>33443342
>>33455956
At least 2000 assuming they aren't totally fucked, and potentially much more, depending on a bunch of shit that I don't know much about because I don't know American milsurp that well.
>>33455985
800+ is the standard rate, depending on condition of course. I've seen a couple go for over $1000 but that's atypical.
>>33456077
They enfield looks like it beat a few men to death back when it was made I'll take pictures here in a bit. Some of them are a bit rough but overall good looking for their age.
>>33456077
I assume it was already cut open a little so it could be import marked?
I need some of those mag pouches to complete my accessories. Well, and the scope.
Did it also come with the spare firing pin? Mine has the spare firing pin pouch, but no spare firing pin. ;_;
>>33455985
>>33456077
$800 or $900 IF it's matching.
Though, if it's a mismatced bayonet I mind it less.
>>33456128
Yes, it was cut open for the import mark and so the serial number could be read.
I'll give you the mag pouch since I already have another set of this stuff from my other Mas 49. And I don't think it has a spare pin, but I haven't opened the accessories.
>>33456161
Heres what i have. all the bores are in great shape
>>33456161
>I'll give you the mag pouch
Give me? :O
God dammit, I was just looking through all of my accessories. FFS, any leather item I leave in my Grandfather's footlocker, that he had when he was called up for Korea, gets verdigris around the brass parts. So fucking annoying having to clean that shit. My 49/56 cleaning pouch is oozing that green shit everywhere. I need to find a better place to keep leather goods. I thought I took them all out...
Also, a damn shame the 49s can't attach the cool nightsight.
>>33456317
How the hell is that SMLE "beat to shit?"
What's the maker/date?
>>33456363
The magazine well is a bit dented in. I know some people are anal about stuff being 100%.
>>33456390
That's nothing too uncommon for Enfields.
There is a huge dent in this one, but it still functions just fine. They're made pretty good.
>>33456450
I like the 1903 and M1 Garand. The Enfield is nice too. I just don't have enough room for all these rifles. He wants me to have them though.
>>33456468
How can't you have enough room for 4 rifles? It's pretty easy to make a gunrack or something to hold them all.
>>33456344
Yeah sure, I'll give it to you. I'm not using it and I don't collect that sort of thing. You wanna pay for shipping it's yours. Or if you're going to Midwest Nuggetfest in October.
>>33456317
Look great to me. That 1903 especially. Kinda making me want one.
>>33456533
Well I have 3 of my own rifles plus those 4. Then I live in an apartment since I am in college.
>>33456536
Thank ya. I doubt my uncle fired it. The sling needs a little cleaning around the brass but that is all.
>>33456536
Nah, I'm in Texas so that's too far for me to go to nuggetfest. Nor have I been autistic enough to go to one. lol
E-mail me at [email protected]
>>33456564
You'll find room. Trust me.
>>33456602
You're right I probably will.
>>33456536
You dissing my chrome 1903 subtly there you mill drinker?
>>33442483
Did yours come with the night vision goggles for night jigglin'
What are the average prices for a M95 and Type 99. I can get them both for 600 at the same shop as the 2 MAS 36 I mentioned. I wanna know if that's too much or a great deal.
>>33456661
That's really hard to give an average on for both of them. Your typical Type 99 without all the do dads are like $200-$300. Your typical cut down carbine M95 in 8x56 is what? $200? But other types or ones in their original caliber are worth a lot more.
What Mle1936s are you talking about?
>>33456661
Waaaayyyyy too much for the M95 unless it's a immaculate long rifle in 8x50... and even then it's high.
As for the Type 99 it depends. Arisuke can tell you more than I can.
>>33456620
Your what now?
>>33456661
>M95
More information needed. Theres a few rifles from 1895.
I assume you mean a styre, but the price varies between long rifle and short and weather its Budapest or x50r.
The average refurbed with electropenciled bolt is 150-250.
A t99 can vary wildly by maker. They're usually around 300 with more added for matching bolt and mum
>>33449781
I am extremely jealous.
>>33453332
>10.4x38r
looks converted to centerfire like he noted, the primers on your brass are clearly centerfire. although i dont know what he was panicking about, 50gr of black powder is 50 grains of black powder regardless if it comes cased in a rimfire primer or a centerfire one
>>33454656
>>33454656
i dont know how much of a deal that is compared to the status quo, id say thats about average for price. of course condition is everything and parts matching matters too
>>33457776
Of the Gew.98 or the pointy bit?
>>33455459
you live in a pink house? with a round aluminum step railing? thats not a very surplusy looking house anon
>>33456317
>>33456317
if you sell any let me know i dont have any of those and need them to start my collection
>>33457971
Both.
Gewehr 98s are perfect
>>33456661
depends on condition and type, matching, way too many factors with that vague information. M95 carbine refurb or original long rifle? type 99 with monopod and aircraft sights or mismatch with ground mum? post pics and we can tell you
>>33457982
Na, that's just my sun room. Rest of the house is brick. Pink isn't my favorite color but.... Well the wife likes it so the sun room stays pink.
>>33458098
>he has a wife
post wife plz
>>33437852
Would bang
>>33448446
>tfw no russian arty milsurp
Guns should have Rights, too.
>>33457965
After a second look, it's definitely refinished, though it was refinished very well. Visible parts all looked to match too, but now I'm having second thoughts.
I'd prefer to get a cheap-ish one as a shooter and then some more collectible ones in the future, but with what you're saying about the price I feel like it'd be overpaying at a thousand bucks.
That being said, I haven't had any luck finding much that were cheaper, and all the ones near that price were in .30 and I'd vastly prefer 9.
I dunno man.
>>33458162
Maybe later, if she wants to pose with her carbines.
>>33458023
For sure i can tell you that the type 99 has the aircraft sights, a pretty mum, and its dust cover. The M95 might be a carbine refurb, it was about the same length as the 99
>>33456772
$300 is too much for an M95?
>>33458981
I thought you said 600. 300 is a tad high but not unreasonable.
>>33457954
he may of thought it was an italian vetterli 1870/87/15 which were converted in 1915 to fire 6.5x52 carcano. shooting a smokeless center fire thorough a rifle intended for BP with 1870's metallurgy is pretty sketchy. The bore on mine is .004 smaller then military 6.5x52 aswell.
>>33458998
I probably should have said 300 each then. My bad
>>33437900
Nah its just has character, thats all
>>33459041
Oh in that case it's a fair deal. You might be able to find each for $250 if you search around but I personally wouldn't quibble over $100.
Unless they've been sporterized of course.
>>33459010
are all mosins shitty at taking full clips, or is it just the cheapo ones I own?
If I try to ram all 5 in they always bind up.
>>33459104
I had done it improperly in the webm, you're supposed to stack them with rims over lapping and use the top cartridge to push the rest.
>>33459166
It works the same way for the Enfield. For some reason, those clips always work much better for me than the Mosin clips.
>>33459104
Chink shit clips do that. Their tolerances are basically "does it look like a clip"
>>33459208
Relevant surp information
>>33456317
your uncle has good taste
>>33442469
what Chinese cartoon?
>>33459364
What's up with the wire wrap? Digging the look
>>33459421
grenade launcher. i bring it to the MWNFs.
>>33458537
where are all the markings?
>>33459465
It's a postwar rework "sneak" model. When transitioning from DWM to Mauser new guns were made from unmarked leftover parts off the shelf. Some people claim it was to avoid arms restrictions from postwar treaties, but that's probably bullshit.
>>33437451
kenyans can run fast but can they run faster than the bullets of enraged /k/ommandos?
>>33459858
Thats a chink-kybar-pass pistol if i ever saw one
just paid $900 for a gun
almost twice as much as Ive paid for one in the past. a little nervous
>>33460532
>a little nervous
Too late to be nervous Anon; you've already done it. I paid 2x more for pic related than I have for any other 'surp.
What did you get?
>>33460595
1944 k98 matching numbers I think its a byf but I havent seen it since I was hammered over the weekend
Picked it up today. Can't wait to take 'er to the range on Friday!
>>33460532
I paid $2000 for this. You'll be fine boss.
>>33445537
Also remember it's his grandpa.
I know mine (who is a bit fuddish) has even went to holographic sights because he finds it easier to use with his aging eyes.
After using an AR of mine with a cheap Sightmark, he now has Sightmarks on all of his damn rifles.
>>33460714
you got ripped off buddy
that said, I want one
>>33449297
These are mostly useful to felons who haven't gotten their rights restored. They can use these as hunting weapons.
If they were $149 I'd buy one to fiddle with, but J&G has a bad habit of overselling their shit. Their fair is a typical dealer's bottom of the river shit.
>also, this is shit they got from SAMCO's bankruptcy auction. Century got a lot of it too but you can only view the prices with a dealer's account.
>>33460714
Saw one at a gun show couple years back, my heart jumped with I saw the stripper clip guide. Price tag said $500, guy must have noticed my excitement cause before I can ask he tells me it's been rechambered for 30-40 krag. Looking back that was probably still a good price, but I was so let down I just sulked off
>>33460773
Yes, would have been a good price. You could have converted it back.
I passed on a part lot of one of these a few years ago on GB. Think the receiver and some misc parts went for $150 or so. Would have still cost a good bit to get going but would have liked having one.
>>33460754
Find one cheaper man.
>>33460773
Eh maybe. They're a lot of fun and wonderful rifle. Better than a lot of its bolt gun contemporaries.
>>33452135
Crazy neat. What's the third rifle from the right? Has the same sight as my 1896 South African Republic Mauser.
>>33460863
Aha nevermind! Upon cliser inspection that's a Spanish Oveido! The two rifles are often confused.
>>33460863
>What's the third rifle from the right?
Spanish Model 1893; your rifle is mostly the same.
>Has the same sight as my 1896 South African Republic Mauser.
Actually the slider is different; notice it's a different shape and the button is on the opposite side. This is one way to tell Spanish-made Model 1893s from German or Belgian-made M1893s
>>33460813
Not a Russian, but I just came across this 30-06 one with some carvings on the stock, came out of a ship captains estate.
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/631802788
>>33460910
Yeah! In fact that exact slider is a clear give away of a C serial chilean reissued OVS south african mauser. The nuanced distinctions are what make these old mausers so much fun to collect.
Thats a gorgeous Spanish 93 by the way, how much did it set you back?
>>33460754
The only one on Gunbroker right now is listed at $8.5k, though to be fair it has been completely refinished (not sure how I feel about that).
>>33460954
>Thats a gorgeous Spanish 93 by the way,
Thanks. It's a post-war refurb/rebuild.
>how much did it set you back?
$250. It's got a repair at the top of the wrist that has come loose and needs to be re-set but otherwise it's in nice shape. I need to get around to fixing that so I can shoot some of that '30s-vintage FN 7x57mm I picked up.
>>33460920
>ame out of a ship captains estate.
Without some honest documentation or evidence it's just a story and I don't place much value on hearsay stories.
>>33460958
I take it back, there is also one in .30-06 for around $2750 that I am seriously thinking about.
>>33460920
>Not a Russian
Then it's not going to command the same price. Mine is the cheapest one I've ever seen. And trust me, I've been hunting them for years.
>>33461151
Wasn't that guy, I've been looking for years as well and pretty much given up on it since I'll never be able justify the price to myself. I want the full military handguards, but may end up settling for a cheaper 30-06, least that way I can still shoot it
>>33459249
Won't that give you rimlock?
>>33450451
Oh shut up, there was 0% of the bluing left, all they did was remove literal rust
>>33461229
not with an enfield because it's a double stack magazine, if you stack 7.62x54r like that it will
>>33461251
Not him, but there never was bluing on a Gew98 receiver. They were left in the white.
>>33461274
Oh, in that case, it looks like it's supposed to now
>>33461251
You mean honest PATINA was removed. Replaced by scratches and rounded edges.
Though its curious how it didn't damage the barrel blue
>>33461370
It really doesn't look like a wire wheel was used. Only rust looks to be removed.
>>33460694
Jelly. They look like neat little plinkers and squirrel guns
>>33450213
animal
>>33461370
>being unable to tell the difference between patina and rust
>>33458642
you make me jealous of your collection and now you're going to make me jealous of your wife
post her anyways please
1944 byf numbers matching
>>33461864
makes 2 k98s in 2 weeks
>>33460614
>>33461864
>>33461881
Nice. Mine was made in the same factory 30 years earlier.
>>33461937
thats pretty cool
>>33461717
On metal, patina is a coating of various chemical compounds such as oxides, carbonates, sulfides, or sulfates formed on the surface during exposure to atmospheric elements (oxygen, rain, acid rain, carbon dioxide, sulfur-bearing compounds), a common example of which is rust which forms on iron or steel when exposed to oxygen. Patina also refers to accumulated changes in surface texture and colour that result from normal use of an object such as a coin or a piece of furniture over time.
But you can make up your own psuedo bullshit if you like
Where do all you Mauser guys get your 8mm from? I want to shoot pic related, but I've gone through nearly all my surplus ammo, and it appears that since my last bulk purchase it's mostly dried up
>mas 36 with nade launcher sights that was cheap but couldn't accept going beyond 400 bucks because I already have a ton of milsurp
>some lucky fuck makes off with it
>some lucky fuck gets a $500 lebel
>>33462439
I usually buy from cabelas since they ship to me and it's generally a $1 a round which I can accept now a days.
>>33462439
>Where do all you Mauser guys get your 8mm from?
2013.
>>33462444
you should tell us these things when you see them if you are not going to buy them
>>33462486
Kek, that's when I last bought it. Clearly I didn't buy enough
>>33462545
already told you fucks about the lebel. I posted it in this thread a week ago.
I was trying for the MAS but with 2 hours left I had to opt out and never got around to posting it in this thread.
>>33462439
I buy PPU then reload the brass
>>33462733
reload my (br)ass senpaii
>>33462553
I no rite? I find a little more now and then; here and there, but nothing in quantity for what I consider a decent price.
>>33437852
Got any before pictures?
Some of the forestock is showing finishing marks, but I still fucking love it.
>>33459369
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CX6AyKbf74
>>33462979
Not sure if serious or i need to take a better picture with more focus
I heard there was some rough Enfields in this thread.
I'll ask this here since surplus ammo is still surplus.
I have two crates of 7.62x54r I'm trying to sell and I would like to know how much I should expect it to cost to ship both UPS Ground using the crates themselves as the shipping boxes.
>>33462950
Isreali? All the shit I got is 1939 German surplus. Guy I bought the FN 49 from just gave me 1000 rds of it
>>33463381
Call and ask them, weight should be around 55 lb
>>33458642
>tfw you will never have a qt milsurp loving wife like /k/aptbilly who buys him milsurps and poses with carbines
>tfw he gets to relive every major ww2 battle as a sexual game in bed
>tfw she makes him do what she wants in the bedroom with a sawback bayo on a gew98
>tfw we will never know this
how did you get so fucking lucky m8
my gf wouldnt even vote for trump
>>33460754
no he didnt
>>33460714
nice, they are rare enough to find in 54r. if i ever come across one im buying as long as its less than $4,000
>>33464399
I'm shockingly charming apparently.
>>33461255
>>33461255
>>33461229
>
>>33461229
no, a mosin that is properly set up and maintained cant get rimlock because they use an interrupter. if you are getting rimlock a part is worn or you have some sort of stock action fitment problem
>>33461864
good buy at $900 as long as the bore isnt roached and the numbers are all legit
>>33464399
>WWII battles in bed
How would operation Barbarossa go down?
>>33462439
buy from fudds who bought pallets back in the day and now realize they will never shoot it all
>>33464460
In this analogy? Ass to mouth. Or so I'd imagine.
>>33464460
when you acknowledged there would be no banging that night but wait until shes asleep
>>33464476
>>33464460
>tfw i continually relive operation sea lion every day in a row
>tfw one time i pushed her all the way to dunkirk but somehow she got away
>>33464490
stupid sjw fatty friends who get jealous and steal away the hot one telling them its time to go home out of spite
And bump limit
>>33450451
>>33461370
>>33461493
Calm down, it was surface rust, not pitting. Most of it wiped away with an oiled cloth. The rest was done by lightly rubbing fine bronze wool over it. (No guns were harmed in the making of this post.)
>>33464524
I think you mean "protective patina layer", bubba.
>>33464512
>And bump limit
Someone did make another thread >>33462988
And it's the youknowwho gunbroker seller he's referring to.
>>33464399
just get em to that point.
>>33463553
>Isreali?
Israeli indeed. I've got Yugoslavian, Turkish, Portuguese, Israeli, Egyptian, and Saudi surplu 8x57.