Let's shoot the FBI Bullseye Course

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>>33435225
Here's the B8 target set up for 8.5x11 letter paper

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no one?

Is the X in the center worth 10 points as well?

I don't think I'd be able to do it, I barely passed my conceal carry shooting test at 10 yards.

>>33436862
>Is the X in the center worth 10 points as well?

yes it is, and anything outside the 7 is straight -10...the 25 yard stuff can be fatal in this one.

But it's kind of cool because at least for the instructor qual - it's actually challenging, unlike most cop qualifiers.

I could pass at 200 but probably not get 260

>>33437401
Well I'd love it if you tried anon! target is easy enough to print, it's a pretty nifty lil bullseye drill.

>>33436862

Yes, but it's also an 'X'

Say if you fire ten rounds and hit 'X' five times and '10' five times, your score is "100, five X" and would beat someone who had hit the ten ring with each hit but no X ring.

"100, ten X" would be perfect, with no shots outside the X ring.

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>>33435225
Done.

>>33437441
Holy shit, I'm OP and I wasn't aware if that, good on you anon sir.

Have you shot it before? Do you bust out your tuned 1911 and put up 295's and such?

>>33437590
I know you're being a funny guy but this test often leaves your b8 looking that way.

>>33439086
you missed the target this time anon, your pic related is kia

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>>33439119
Yeah, I saw that and instantly felt like a jackass

>>33435225
I'll get out my Colt Trooper and try this out, I have a couple hundred .38 SWC reloads that need a purpose. It would be fun to see a lot of folks do this so we can compare skill rabges on the board.

This was tge photo I forgot to post, Bulgarian Makarov, 5 shots, 25yds. Squares on target are 1" in width and height

>>33439164
>t would be fun to see a lot of folks do this so we can compare skill rabges on the board.

I'd settle for less than dick waving rights, even simple, active community participation in little shooting challenges like this.

Threads where we could run the tests/drills and talk about what went right or wrong and share experiences and info with each other.

Also that's a nice 25 yard 5 shot group anon, looks to be about 2 - 2.25 inches very tight. This FBI qual will fuck with you though trust me, it's not just demanding precision but also accuracy - bring ammo that you know well where it prints

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>>33439280
I had considered that, the Colt has adjustable target sights and I loaded the ammo on a single stage press using a scale. This is my last range trip using that combination at 11yds (thought it was ten when I placed the target, laser read eleven, oh well) orange sticker is 2" across

I would be absolutely ecstatic if we could get a group doing a "challenge of the month" thing on here, FBI bullseye one month, FAST drills the next, etc...

>>33439338
same, well let's start the fire, or try to, maybe this will be the jumping off point.

Also love that your flier is a heel rather than an jerk or anticipation - a man of my own nature.

Thing is it's gotta be gentle because /k/ is filled with dick wavers who absolutely hate having dicks waved at them

>>33439438
waived * fml it's late and I'm retarded

>>33435225

If you can't rapid fire at 25 yards and keep rounds on target you seriously need to practice more...

>>33439517
I tried the GM test the other day, that shit is fucking nightmare fuel.

Whoever designed it is either an asshole or a pistol god or both.

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>>33439517
Define "on target" because a 3" bullseye at 25yds is no fucking joke for rapid fire using a stock duty revolver in DA.

>But I'm sure you're some ultra awesome super pistol wizard that can do it blindfolded
>So long as nobody watches

>>33439438
Fuck it, I'm down. Let's call the FBI test the drill for April? Give everyone plenty of time to get out and try, maybe shoot a couple of times and post their best.

Yeah, I dry fire way too much to flinch, but sometimes I fuck up my grip and get really bad horizontal stringing or heel a shot high. That was my second trip out with the Colt and I can definitely say fuck those grips.

This was my Dan Wesson at 11yds, much more comfortable grip

>>33439655
>Let's call the FBI test the drill for April? Give everyone plenty of time to get out and try, maybe shoot a couple of times and post their best.

Yes, this - I wanted it all immediately but you're right, it needs to be a reciprocating constant monthly. (also a bit of a hugbox or at least safe space - learning based not competition based)

>This was my Dan Wesson at 11yds, much more comfortable grip

Love it, key holing (yes you tards printing and expanding on the rotund single bullet imprint is commonly referred to key holing) is very hard to do at 11 yards. That said you've got a cheater gun kek

Excellent regardless

>>33439733
>you've got a cheater gun
Hey now, that thing was only $350! And it's not even used my the SEALs, obviously it couldn't be high quality.

>It's the 8" heavy barrel shroud version with a partridge front sight I thinned by hand
>It is totally cheating

It's not so much a hugbox as it is a mentoring environment. Almost nobody on here shoots competitively, if you tgrow out a bare knuckle brawl they will run. It's important to give everyone something o improve with, abd treat these drills as what they are, a way to track your own progress in a standardized and easy to measure way. Competition comes later.

>>33435225
>only have a gateloading revolver
Do I get a handicap?

>>33439832
You only load 5 rounds at a time, so, no.

But if you do it make sure to post a picture of the gun in frame with the target so everyone knows you had to take tge time to work the SA hammer.

>>33439517
This is pistols, not rifles buddy.

>>33439813
>>It's the 8" heavy barrel shroud version with a partridge front sight I thinned by hand
>>It is totally cheating

Jesus christ that is like cut the dick off a bee tier kek

>mfw I use Interceptor polycase cheater ammo ((now and then) because it prints super flat and lets me rep the trigger like lightning

I mean not all the time, but yeeah ....

>It's not so much a hugbox as it is a mentoring environment

I think we are on the same page, context point would be most folks here don't want to learn or be tutored even if they need it, so for active participation we are better served playing as sleepers and being didactic.

I'm fucking umped for this moth and shooting the FBI bullseye standards - I've shot it twice but I'm going to omit scores until participation is more active.

>>33437611

No, I was never really good.

I used to shoot a .22 rimfire bullseye match every week, the gun range ran them indoors over the winter to give us all something to do and raise a few dollars.

Some guys who were rated NRA expert or whatever it's called pistol shooters would put up a 290 with 20 or more X's like it was nothing. I had trouble staying in the 200's.

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>>33439856
>>33439856
It's double action and has no rear sights for some fucking reason, I also only have like a dozen bullets. And I need to buy ink. I thought doctrine was double action only?

I'm still going to try this, when are trials? We could make this a /k/ event.

>>33439935
Good is reletive, I probably couldn't hit 200 with a rifle.

>>33439998
>>33439998
>I'm still going to try this, when are trials? We could make this a /k/ event.

Well we have kinda been feeling it out in this thread started tonight but I'd say you have a month to farm this and p post your strongest results.

Also encouragement to explaining or going deeper than just your scores

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To be fair, have to specify stance as well. Bullseye implies a one handed hold. Generally "draw and fire" on timer start isn't required, you can start from low ready or resting on the table or whatever.

>>33437590
I feel safer already

>>33440138
The scores listed are for Freestyle IE: 2 handed - you get like a 20 point bonus or some such shootan 1 handed

>>33440138
>>33440168

Also yes the whole test is from low ready - regardless if you decide to shoot strong hand or freestyle

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>>33439921
>Jesus christ that is like cut the dick off a bee tier
If you're not shooting at empty shotgun hulls you're not shooting.

>Just kidding, I'm not great with it, here is a picture from about 12-13 months ago
>My Dan Wesson at 50yds, only six rounds just to show a coworker I could
>Fucking Tula ammo 158gr .38spl if you can believe it

I just got a coworker to participate in the FBI drill with his only pistol, G17 Gen3, I'll post his results for him since he doesn't browse 4chan

I'm excited, it would be nice to see some collective effort for self improvement around here

>>33439998
You will be my hero if you run drills with that thing

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Here's an edited target if anyone cares to save like a 5th of a cent compared to just bulk ordering actual targets

>>33440652
Hey man, it adds up!

So, are you thinking weekly reminder threads until the last week of April?

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>>33440742
I'm, not OP but I'll try and keep this thread bumped so people see it

Also here's a less shitty edit, don't know why I kept the original grey letters

>>33441085
It would be nice if there was enough interest that people didn't need to bump the thread to keep it alive.

>>33435237
Would be cool to have the full-size target.

>>33441181
>https://www.amazon.com/Times-Rapid-Pistol-Target-Official/dp/B00VBZA7CE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1490593917&sr=8-2&keywords=NRA+b8+target

>>33440742
Yeah I think we are in agreement that it will be a drill of the month type thing, plenty of time for folks to hit the range.

>>33442490
Agreed. I showed the requirements to my BF and he said it looked easy, I can't wait to see his face when the realization hits him.

Got any ideas for next months drill? Has to be something you can do at nearly any range to get the most participants, so holster work is probably out.

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>>33442522
>Agreed. I showed the requirements to my BF and he said it looked easy, I can't wait to see his face when the realization hits him.

kek dem first 10 at 25 might push his shit in

>Got any ideas for next months drill? Has to be something you can do at nearly any range to get the most participants, so holster work is probably out.

ouch that's a good point, nothing yet, but plenty of time to brain storm and crowd source. anon's contributions/suggestions are always welcome

Would be fun if I could actually own a gun yet in this country (21 minimum).
Would an airgun count?

Ignore these below.
>>33439999
>>33440000

>>33442634
>Would an airgun count?

I mean you are certainly welcome to shoot the qualifier, just be up front that you shot it with an airgun

>>33436817
>barrel pointed at head
hoo boy

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Should we settle on a limit for the amount of results you can post? I don't want to discourage people from farming tests/drills and improving but I don't want turbo autists like myself to post 100 results a month and drown out the diversity.

I'm in. Time to de-lead the fucking K frame and get some jacket bullets.

How about we do this, El Prez #1, and those with the opportunity go shoot an IDPA classifier match? Very well rounded skill assessment if you can do all three.

>>33443969
As somebody brought up earlier, we would do best to stick with more "accessible" drills/tests, at least from the start...Lot's of folks are either limited by their range, or not experienced enough or exposed enough to some of the more "advanced" stuff.

I'd be open to doing like 2 different kinds of drills a month, one universally applicable and another more dynamic one with holster work, movement and what have you.

I don't think we should involve any formal shooting org tho, many folks here would be turned off by the added layer of commitment.

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>>33443758
My wadcutter load is super accurate but the leading is a royal pain in the ass. I'm off to find a plated wadcutter, I guess.

Wish I had seen this thread yesterday before I went to the range. Would have been fun to try with my 226, 686 and deagle. I wouldnt mind participating in this thread monthly. Tho the only range near me has a max distance of 25 yds so anything beyond that I'm out

>>33444081
Barry's are good, you could always just use Lazer cast SWCs, that was my solution.

>>33443560
Are you FN guy?

I think best 3 is a good compromise

>>33435237
>>33435225
How does the points work? Add up the 9/10 stuff? Also what's the bullseye worth?

>>33444221
Add up the number for the rings you hit, missing a scoring ring or the target is -10
X ring is worth 10, 30 shots at tem possible points a shot is 300 possible points.

>>33444081
Maybe try using poly coating?

>>33444162
>Are you FN guy?

ya, well I mean I was

3 sounds fair, not too spammy but lets peeps stay involved for the month

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Whelp I'll go ahead and burn one of my best of three posts to give the thread a proper bump.

Scored a 278, my biggest gripes - not using all of the allotted time & a shit point of aim for the first two strings at 15 yards which I felt earned me that cluster of (4) -2 points in the bottom of the 8 ring.

Definitely gonna farm this and try to dazzel, fingers crossed tho smhtbqhfamn

if only I had an obrez, I would try to qual with that

Can I use a semi auto shotgun with slugs?

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>>33444303
I've tried several commercially available cast bullets. The last were basic 148 grain Hornady wadcutters. They have all caused heavy leading.

I didn't ask for this feel.

>>33445768
I don't think any of us would try to stop you from participating with whatever, that said you are def encouraged to play by the FBIs rules and use your carry/service handgat

But hey seriously - participation is key, if that's all you have or that's what you want to use, go ahead - just mention it in your post for the sake of clarity.

okay /k/, help me
my springfield XD-40 shoots with a 6 o clock hold and its shits all over my accuracy.
what can i buy to make it normal combat sights?

>>33445793

Use hard cast lead then

It fouls much less

Hickok has a good video about hard cast lead

>>33446413
Hmm no personal experience to help you with anon. That said how exaggerated of a hold are we talking? Most pistols are designed for a 6 O'clock hold it might just be something to train past.

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I'd go do it with the cartridge the faggots are supposed to use but I haven't had a printer since my last one ran out of ink years ago. Maybe I'll use red dot targets and paper plates

Who prints stuff anymore?

>>33446826
>tfw a professional printer

...m..me?

You can buy B8s basically anywhere, I've even seen them in Wal-Mart before I believe

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>>33435225
my ex gf literally did this so if you cant neck yourself

post yfw 25 yeards

>>33444992
>That's a 278
What the fuck? I thought over 260 was supposed to be impressive.

>>33446915
It's pretty hard for most people senpai since it's not just precision but also accuracy, and a few slip ups at the 25 yard line can really eat away at your points

>>33446850
I just found I never use a printer. It just sits there until the ink dries out. Then I just never replaced it.

>>33446976
I hear ya, I don't personally own one either but I abuse the fuck outta my 64" wide format and officejet here at work

>>33446746
the problem is that i dont really shoot the gun THAT often, and i have other guns as well, so i dont get a rhythm with this one idk it probably shoots like 4-5 inches high, consistantly ( @ 20 yards)

>>33447059
>the problem is that i dont really shoot the gun THAT often, and i have other guns as well,

Sounds like there's a software issue you could immediately address by reducing your practice to just your carry gun. I know this isn't appealing to every gun owner, but it's certainly a way to improve more efficiently.

>probably shoots like 4-5 inches high, consistently ( @ 20 yards)

That feels like a pretty standard hold over, good luck on your sight hunt sir

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Next month's drill?

>>33447144
well its not actually my carry gun

>>33447182
Excellent suggestion, I'm down if everyone else is.

>>33447229

Not telling you how to run the qualifier - you are free to dice it up how you like, but it's designed to be taken on your carry/service gun.

If you feel your carry gun isn't up to the task, well maybe there's a larger issue for you to address.

Just a suggestion anon, once again looking forward to your participation and posts.

>>33447304
>Your carry gun should be a bullseye gun capable of 2" at 25yds

Almost no modern carry sights with a combat hold allows for that, the front sights are too fat.

>>33447304
well, i actually dont have a carry gun yet (July is when i get one)


this was actually mainly a question aimed here at the more intelectual folk

>>33447331
>Your carry gun should be a bullseye gun capable of 2" at 25yds

Nobody said that. And you don't need a 300/300 to pass either the Agent or Instructor scores.

>>33447335
>this was actually mainly a question aimed here at the more intelectual folk

?

Sorry that I wasn't able to provide you with a more useful response anon

>>33447375
If you feel your carry gun isn't up to the task

But the task is getting a perfect score?

>>33446850
How cheap can you get a target printed? Best deal I can find is about 6 cents per sheet if I order 5000 and pick it up myself

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>>33447539
We should certainly all strive for a perfect score, but the passing standards are lower than 300/300 for a reason.

Best I've even seen is a 299 put up by a salty good ol' boy and his 1911, it's quite a sight.

I see a lot of 240-280s from people I would consider strong shooters.

webm related recently put up a 295, his EDC is a glock 17L

>>33447580
Not that kind of printer, wide format graphics that are mostly self adhesive vinyl, my in house shit would be costly.

>>33447588
Nice dubs, I'll go shoot a 300 and get back to you.
>Gotta aim high right

>>33435225
>>33435237
lol i thought that circle on the page was the target

>>33447182

this is pretty cool, but what about time? I could easily score high on something like this if I'm taking my time with shots.

shouldn't there be time constraints to make it challenging? or at least, somehow incorporate time into the scoring?

>unless I'm just missing something

>>33447182
If you can't draw at your range is combining draw time at home and adding a penalty good enough?

>>33447809
There are time limits. See OP

>>33447826
For toture has no time limits so I think we can just let no draws slide

>>33447588
Its a g34.

>>33447916

I was referring to the target posted in the post that I quoted in my post and not the OP.

>>33447182

>>33435225
I'm a pretty consistent 220s

>>33447335
You were given some pretty sound advise and the proceeded to call the anon talking with you stupid. I wouldn't hold my breath for additional responses

>>33447375
i meant here, where everyone is more intellectual than the rest of /k/ lol
>>33448208
see my earlier comment, was not to call him stupid

>>33447949
Tomato tomato...

No but thx for the correction.

>>33448253
My bad carry on

For my three tries I'm going to use three different pistols

>1st attempt
Carry gun, USP45
>2nd
Colt Trooper, for that classic qualifications feel
>3rd
Taurus fucking J-frame, hard mode bitches

>>33446441
This is most certainly not true. Hard cast alloys are not appropriate for lighter (and many heavy) loads as they are prone to blow by of hot gasses, which is one of the main culprits that cause fowling. I love me some Gun Grandpa, but there are far better sources for reloading information, Richard Lee has a very informative article that explains the concept very well.

>>33448795
nahh man it was my bad, two of you guys read it different than me haha. either way back to topic
the problem exists with the front blade i guess, as it'd be hard to make the rear shorter.. but i wonder how much taller the front blade would need to be

>>33449475
I GOT YOU /k/OMRADE!

>By the power of math!

http://stores.kensight.com/front-sight-height-guide/

>>33435225
I can only shoot in my basement would making it half size at half the distance acceptable?
>inb4 it's a bad idea to shoot in the basement
I'm shooting in my basement I don't have much to lose.

>>33449589
If you do, you should also half the size of the target

>>33448825
I think we are in agreement that the 3 runs is for actual show and tell here and not for your practice.. Of say run as many as you would like and post your 3 best sir

>>33445858
>implying I don't cc a spas

>>33449834
I'm treating it as a pass/fail thing for myself, I shoot quite a bit and want to use this as an actual test of my abilities with my guns. I'll shoot at other targets to practice but just one B-8 target per gun.

>Obviously this is a self imposed restriction and not something everyone should be doing

>>33449543
this seems to be immensly helpful! thank you brother.
next step, finding a tall-blade sight..

Neophyte handgun shooter here. Thanks for bringing this to my attention; it sounds like an interesting and fun challenge. I'm going to try this with a DAO snubnose the next time I go shooting.

>Yes, I know I am going to fail. But success is built atop the ruins of countless failures.

>>33450427
Dawson Precision is my go-to
If you are willing to use a plain black steel frint sight get a gunsmith sight blank and file it down to the exact height you want. That's what I did with my 1911

>>33450649
>I'm going to try this with a DAO snubnose the next time I go shooting.
Balls of steel, good for you. Post results and remember to go slow, it's a test of fundamentals, not a race.

>>33450796
Doesn't nail polish stick pretty good on it?

>>33436817
That looks like Jhonen Vasquez. Wouldn't be surprised if it was him.

>>33451581
Well, yes, but I meant as opposed to a trintium or fiber optic sight

>>33449693
I think he said that he was going to do that.

>>33451634
well if it was a straight black sight, i could coat it for a bit of vision if the black doesn't work out

Well, got the lead out and ready to print some targets. Will put holes in targets on Wednesday. Keep the fire lads.

>>33453295
Good point, let us know what you end up choosing.

>>33453841
Fucking awesome, I'm suprised there is so much participation already

I'm about to try this later today. Just to be clear, do I only get points for 9, 10, and x? and lose points for 8 and under?

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Not sure how to score this one

>>33454436
Each shot is worth a maximum of 10 points. 9 is worth 9, 8 worth 8 7 worth 7 and anything outside is worth 0.

>>33454855
290 by my count anon, most excellent work!

>>33452860
>trees
>grass
>dirt
>rocks
>mantle
>my reading comprehension

>>33454855
nice, can I pick your brain?

How much of your 4 minutes did you use to shoot the 10 at 25?

How much of your time did you use at the 15 with 15 and 10 secs respectively? I have a very hard time taking advantage of the time and always go faster than needed, but if I consciously work to use more of the time I seem to do worse, life is suffering

>>33455151
I took about 2 minutes on the first stage, the second stage I took 10 to 12 seconds, the third stage I took 9 to 10 seconds. That was my second try and best. I got 274 on my first with the same gun. My g19 and my p83 didn't do as well but I haven't scored them yet

>>33455223
Thanks for the info sir, you put up a really good score, it will be interesting to see how many people can challenge it.

I don't think I'll be able to touch it (my median scores seem to be 270-280), but I'll give it my best all month long if I have to.

>>33454855
assuming you didn't miss any:

the bottom one is a 7 barely,and I'm counting 9 or possibly 10 8's, depending on if the 4 o clock is a double hole or if it just tore

not including the possible 4 o clock double or the big hole, I'm counting 9 9's

so

one 7
nine-ten 8's
at least nine 9's

which leaves 11 left. I think the 4oclock is a double, so that's

1 7
10 8
10+ 9

leaving 9 left

now I see two solid 10's, plus that giant hole

meaning there are about 7 in that hole. Now IMO, it's looking like 4 in the 9, 3 in the 10 for that hole

So if I'm right,

1 7
10 8
14 9
5 10

which would equal 263

>>33455267
Where are you seeing the 7?

Also the general rule is you round up not down, so if the shot is mostly in the 9, but touches the line of the 10 ring, it's a 10.

That should have been mentioned in the OP I fucked that up.

>>33455289
I wasn't aware of that rounding rule lol. I just looked at where the center of the hole was

the 7 WOULD be at 6 o clock, but I evidently should recount

>>33455304
>the 7 WOULD be at 6 o clock, but I evidently should recount

You mean the one touching the 8 & 9 ring?

I'M SO CONFUSED

>>33454855
>>33455289
Once more, with the revised rounding:

assuming the 4 o clock is a double,

9 8's
12 9's (i think one of the ones in the big hole are a 9 imo)
9 10's

making for a score of 270

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>>33455317
the number is placed on the OUTSIDE of the ring it represents. Since the center is a 10, and the 10 marking is outside the center ring

Hence the area containing the number 8 is actually the 7 designation

>>33455382
Incorrect sir, both the X and 10 are 10, and the number is most definitely placed inside the ring it represents, I can assure you of this.

>>33455382
The center is x which is a tiebreaker, the next is 10

>>33455382
>>33455413

I think your confusion might stem from the B8 target being a stand in for the actual FBI target, the FBI one has no "X" but has a very large 10 ring that is almost dead equal to the X + 10 on the B8.

As for the number being outside the ring, that's just wrong m8.

>>33455444
>>33455418
>>33455413
man fuck this target lol

alright, ONE more time

>>33454855
including the revised rounding AND the revised target scoring:

9 9's
12 10's
9 SUPER 10's (yay)

which SHOULD EQUAL. 291

assuming you're not all wrong that is

>>33435225
>Slow fire
Ezpz
>Timed fire
Heavy breathing
>Rapid fire
Heavy sweating

Fuck me, you gotta be pretty damned good huh. 25 yards is a lot further than I usually pop out with my 1911.

>>33455475
Pretty sure the guys you've been talking to have shot this test more than a few times over the years - I think we got the rules down. That count looks closer, I counted it as 290 (there's a oblong double shot in the 9 if you look closely)

Either way fair enough assessment for me sir, looking forward to your target posts!

>>33455505
Not gonna like I get a bit flustered on the 9th and 10th shot at the 25.

After that, at the 15 I just kinda go auto pilot because of the timing windows and shoot them both around 6-8 seconds.

Have you guys never scored a target before?

>If it is even touching the line it receives the higher score
>The number corresponds with score value of the ring
>X==10
Very, very simple

>>33455593
>Have you guys never scored a target before?

It's literally one guy and we straightened him out, but I appreciate the effort sir.

>>33455615
Oh, my bad, I was totally ignoring the nane field. Apologies.

>>33455593
You wouldn't count rips or tearing at all, right?

>>33455637
Nope, another way to think about it is "if the carbon ring is touching the line it counts for the higher value" The measurement is of the projectile its self.

When you shoot these tests it's good to use stiff official targets, or if you are cheapo status like me make sure your cheap paper print is flush against a rigid substrate like cardboard. This reduces almost all the tearing and gets you a better carbon line.

>>33450796
http://www.xd-hs2000.com/xd-hs2000/Stock_Sights_XD.html

check this out,about halfway down you see a bunch of rear sights lined up with measurements and markings on them, after looking, mine are the G rear sights. and it shoots high probably 4 inches (probably isnt very scientific..)

what do you think about the idea of getting a lower rear sight, such as the "no mark" sight? from the anons link, http://stores.kensight.com/front-sight-height-guide/
turns out i need to raise my front blade something like 0.033.. but instead, i could lower my rear blade.
If i go from the rear sight "g" to "D", the change is .039.. which is a lot more on center
how sound is this plan?

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bump to save lives

I'm thinking using a fresh target for each course of fire would make this easier to score.

Any thoughts?

>>33459005
perfectly fine, that's how like 1/10 people chose to do it.

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>>33458751
And because turnabout is fair play

>>33459374
i think first picture wins,
second picture the guys using the glock because he cant use a 1911

>>33459374
Is that Bret?

>>33456235
What the fuck is this specific brand of autism? And why do you keep posting it?

>>33460816
It's really good shooting, peeps seem to enjoy watching quick clips, I know I do.

>>33460884
Yeah but it's very dry

>>33462679
Target shooting in general is.

>>33459627
Nah. 1911 need to stay out of military service.

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>>33462679 that's p. dynamic shooting anon besides, much better than a blank post reading "bump" right?

I'll totally try this. Give me some form of measure with handgats. I'm okay on average, but I'm trying to get better!

>>33467122
Sweet anon. I've been brushing up on my bullseye groups for this. Not as up to snuff as I thought I was

>tfw trying to farm a high score and shooting 278 3 days in a row.

>>33471166
Good enough to yell at recruits.