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Any love for boomers?

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Someone at some point in human history decided that they needed to sneak 100 nuclear warheads into the enemy's territorial waters.

Does anyone know how succesful the ruskies could have been?
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SOSUS detected quite well Russian submarines during cold war. Only late cold war Soviets found out how badly their propellers caused noise. US could monitor all Soviet submarines in Atlantic.
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>>33432603

The only reason the Russians had such a gigantic Boomer force is because they would not have stood a chance against the West conventionally after Reagon took office. The technological gap became way too big to be compensated with mass. They had their own simulations where they came to the conclusion that it would take the West roughly a week to destroy the Warsaw Pact forces conventionally.
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>>33433356

> US could monitor all Soviet submarines in Atlantic.

That stopped with the introduction of the Akula Class. Thanks to the traitor Walker.
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>>33433388

More like it stopped with the intro of the Type 2 Akula. Type 1s came before the Ruskies revamped their sound silencing.
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>>33433388
yeah US spread false information that they had spies that told planned route of Soviet submarines when actually they monitored submarines with SOSUS. Akula class came late cold war. Of course we don't know how good submarine detection is today as it is secret.
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>>33433356
>Amerishit "monitoring"
http://freebeacon.com/national-security/silent-running/
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>>33433372
>t. breitbart
nice revisionist fuddlore, faggot
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>>33433587
Notice "late cold war". Cold war stopped in 1990's...and that article is from 2012. After cold war SOSUS have been mostly used to detect whales instead of submarines and it have been partly decommissioned.
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Russkies have shit navy look at the whisky on the rocks incedent or Kursk disaster to see the competence of their submarine fleet
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is the yasen any good?
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I just finished reading this book about a week ago. Boomers are fine and all but the reconnaissance and surveillance stuff was incredible.
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>>33432603
Pre walker spy ring: Popsicle's chance in hell. SOSUS line had them in check, and in general NATO had Soviet boomers crossing the GIUK gap locked in tight, especially when NATO strategy put a much heavier focus on shadowing them later in the Cold War. The Soviet's poorer sonar fit and generally piss-poor acoustic signatures made survival rates for most Soviet subs trying to cross into the North Atlantic really bad.

Post-Walker: Different ball game, as the Walker spy ring gradually blows the whole thing open. Disastrous for NATO but arguably just as sickening for the Soviets, as they slowly realize that they have had up to this point little idea how boned their subs would have been in the North Atlantic. Much improvement in Soviet sub forces ensue, which is really a massive acceleration of technological advancement the Soviets were already carrying out. NATO hunter killers begin noticing that their opponents are improving: Better passive detection and very strenuous checking maneuvers of stern arcs makes life harder. Even worse is that Soviet quietening in the newer marks of Victors and Echos begins to get very close to NATO levels, eventually resulting in some cases of NATO subs being "bounced" by Soviet ones, which is found upsetting. (Ironically though, new Soviet doctrine eased the difficulty of finding the very quiet new Echo types, as the Soviets begin attaching escort Victors to them, which turn out to be a lot noisier than the boats they were supposed to protect). They also get a lot better at bamboozling SOSUS and exploiting its weaknesses, and in general make NATO ASW assets work a lot harder for their supper.

Surprisingly, the chances of Soviets in this later period getting a boomer off US shores to blow a hot plutonium load over the Eastern seaboard and beyond don't get better, and maybe even get less likely. This is because Soviet doctrine changes. Instead of bumrushing attack boats and boomers into the Atlantic(cont)
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>>33432603
>>33436173...Atlantic, Soviet doctrine shifts to the defensive. Boomers are kept within northern waters inside fortified naval bastions (missiles range have got better, reducing the need to get into the North Atlantic), protected by surface ASW, aircraft cover and hunter killers, as well as mines. The Soviets now want NATO to come into their house, through the choke point they had enjoyed as an advantage for so long, and fight on Russian terms. This culminates in the Typhoon class, designed to hide under the Arctic ice and surface through it to fire, as neutralizing such an asset would require NATO going into an under-ice environment, which was not their forte at the time. This isn't to say the Russians gave up entirely on penetrating the North Atlantic, but they went about it in a far more conservative way.
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>>33432603
posting some boomers!
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>>33436279

>This culminates in the Typhoon class, designed to hide under the Arctic ice and surface through it to fire

>and surface through it to fire
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>>33436783
typhoon in the arctic!
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