Gear Queer Thread /gq/

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>>33430272
So aside from;
http://www.combatkit.net/en/product/modular-attaching-system/mg3-200rds-ammo-pouch-detail

What kind of 7.62 MMG ammo pouches do you guys suggest?

Pic very related

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>>33430272
innawoods

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>>33430337
innadesert

>>33430337
Hey, I was looking for you in the last thread. Do you have the other close-up pic of your kit outside?

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>>33430355
this one?

>>33430368
Nah, it's just a close up of you with your night desert parka and gear on, from a front/side angle.

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>>33430393
Thats the one, thanks. Love your kit.

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>>33430402
thanks pham, do you have gear?

>>33430409
Yeah, but it's for airshit mainly. My only decent piece is my LBT 6094, everything else is budget trash.

>>33430423
post it

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>>33430430
LBT 6094, Source hydration carrier, and some unknown pouches. I used to have an S&S Precision skeleton insert that I used but as well as it kept my mags I didn't like how the solid kydex was so thick, so I switched it out for just a soft insert. Then I have some unknown triple mag pouch on the front which I've been considering switching out for a BFG pouch because again, I like it being as low profile as possible when not in use.

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>>33430462
looks good pham. a BFG pouch would definitely make it more streamlined. Do you have plates? or real guns? or is it purely for bbwarz.

when you take the mags out of the bfg pouches they lay so flat it's like there isn't a mag pouch there.

>>33430476
What IFAK is this and what are the contents? I'm looking at various options right now and trying to determine what will fit everything I want to have.

>>33430476
I have a .22, that's all so far. I live in Commiefornia and was trying to get enough money together for a non-cucked AR before they changed the laws around but when it came down to it all the shops in town had sold out of anything that wasn't incredibly expensive, and they all had very high transfer fees, as well as having their transfer deadline like three weeks before the actual deadline for finishing the purchase before the laws went into effect. So I'm trying to decide now what route I want to go, whether it be getting a featureless AR or Mini-14, etc. or maybe going for an SKS or something else. Will probably get a handgun sometime this year too. No real plates yet either, would rather invest that money into actual guns first.

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>>33430485
it's the hsgi bleeder pouch.

sheers
cat TQ
6 inch Israeli bandage
3 pairs of gloves in a baggie
2 sealed packages of gauze

it's a really small ifak and i will never be used. if i was actually getting shot at i would have more training and more medical shit. when i build a belt rig i'm probably going to add another small ifak pouch. When i build my slick im just gonna use a dangler.

i've had the pouch for years and it has held up to me crawling around and shit every time i go shooting or to a /k/ meet.

>>33430487
i live in commiefornia too. we should airshit together sometime. I just went to milsim west rostov rising.
if you want an AR just buy a lower at a local gunstore then order the rest of the parts online and have them shipped to your house. just get a bulletbutton and dont take your gun to the range. if you shoot innawoods and inna desert you will be fine and when the laws get fixed in the next few years you will be golden.
Mini-14s are generally ass.
i wanted an sks but they are more expensive now that the yugos with grenade launcher lugs are illegal.

the market for AR parts right now is really good so if you just snag a lower for 90-150 you could build a functioning gun for 500 or a solid one for 1000+

>>33430522
The problem was I didn't turn 21 until January 3rd of this year, otherwise I definitely would have just bought a lower and collected the parts afterwards. Every shop I went to said they couldn't sell me a lower, even if I had them add a stock and everything to it to bar it from being considered a handgun, oh well. I might just go for an AR anyway but I mostly shoot at a popular range, innadesert wouldn't be too bad though. I'm in SoCal by the way, normally I airshit at Code Red in Perris, but there's also SC Village, Jungle Park, Hollywood Sports Park, Warped Ops, and Tac-City in the area.

I missed Rostov, but I did go to Kazakh Insurgency back in November, that was some good shit and was my first Milsim West.

>>33430559
you can still buy a lower. alternatively you could do an 80% lower

>>33430559
>Code Red in Perris
post a burner email, i will get you in the /k/alifornia slack. we do meets every couple months and go to MSW and trump rallys and shit

>>33430561
I can now, definitely. Just saying that when I was 20 they wouldn't let me do any of that even though I had been told it'd be fine if I had them attach the stock and grip. Said they were only allowed to sell me a completed rifle. I'll probably invest in getting an AR started soon though depending on how the next few months go for me.

>>33430570
[email protected] is what I use for anything 4chan related, go ahead and let me know.

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>>33430272
R8?

>>33430690
Nonsensical pouch placement, random surplus pouches on RLCS h harness, canteens instead of a hydro
0/10

>>33430522
Yeah but are you TFM?

>>33430705
Except everything you said is wrong m8,
>bitter, blind noguns/10

>>33430709
>TFM
?

>>33430272
>pastebin
>Ops-Core FAST - $1700
>Ops-Core Maritime - $1450

Isn't it the other way around, or am I brainfarting?

>>33430732
>>33430690
not even him but
>canteens in 2017
>back mounted GP pouches making backpack use impossible
>offset mag pouch on right side
>handgun mag pouches on both sides

your rig is the definition of ????????

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>>33430272

>>33430901
Nigga canteens are still amazing to have for /out/door patrols where you plan on staying out for days.

>>33430892
I'm pretty sure the original FAST helmets are only like $700-800 when you can find them (Botach), so I don't know where $1700 came from. I guess I also don't know where $260 for the AVS plate carrier came from either, considering it's like $850.

>>33430902
Fuck you don't just steal my picture and post it without context before I have the chance to.

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>>33430272
Post more ronin belts fagits

Anyone have any experience with Off The Grid Holsters? They seem to have the holster for my gun in the configuration I want, and it's in stock (approx wait time is 5 days). The EDC thread seem to know nothing about them, figured I'd also ask here.

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>>33431217
they're solid holsters, great retention, some neat ideas like his holsters being light/no light compatible.

>>33431238
Awesome. Thanks, man.

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>>33431217
I have one
Great holsters. Great customer service

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>>33430690
My first reaction is to ask what your plan is for the two pouches on the back.

My next is to ask if you have ever worn it.

>Pic is memes

>>33430690
Whatever you're planning on putting on your back and in half those pouches could go in a backpack instead.
On your belt/harness:
- mags
- FAK
- multitool
- comms
And that's about it. They call it a "battle belt/harness" for a reason: it's just the shit you throw on for a fight. Anything survival- or comfort-related goes in a day pack that you can shed quickly to move better under fire if necessary, eg. extra water, food, fire kit, etc.

>>33431320
-Pistol on in the right most m4 mag pouch
-multitool and flasslight in the pouches next to it
-left mag pouches for mags
-chest level pouch for a mini med kit
-food and water on back
Can always reconfigure, but patrol was the mindset

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innawoods season soon

>>33431284
>>33431320
>>33431611
Plus I have a nice woodland backpack for other reconfigurations, I just like it as is for extended patrol and nice weight balance, very comfy

>>33431310
This is quality OC

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>>33430393
>Using a face mask to hide your shitty jihadi beard.

>>33431632
Source on tent?
I'm really liking that rain fly color

>>33430902
when I was a kid I was limited to a Jewzi and a plastic M1 helmet

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>>33430690
3/10
get an Ifak and think about sorting out your pouches.

>>33431632
soon

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>>33431742
nemo galaxi 2p.

overall a good tent

pros
>very nice pole system that self assembles
>comes with footprint
>available in that brown/earth color
>quick to set up

cons
>heavy for its size
>somewhat bulky when packed for its size
>rainfly doesnt reach ground which means when its windy air comes right into the tent
>2p so once two people are inside on sleeping pads space inside is limited to putting a rifle at your feet and thats about it

i give it a 7/10

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>>33431758
>desert DPM
>osprey atmos
good taste

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>>33431641
in all fairness i didnt make it, but i knew it had to be posted here

>>33431828
Neato. What belt is this?

>>33431909
Tyr tactical gunfighter

>>33430690
>shit harness
>shit pouches
>buddy mags when you're all alone
Shit teir desu. Scrap it and start over.

>>33430902
I'm laffin
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nMYfi55a9JI

>>33431788
>not sleeping with rifle inside sleeping bag

Its like you've never experienced real fear before, a fear that only cuddling with rifuchan can make at ease.

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Just bought these. Thwy are the ones made in china but if i were to eventually upgrade to the handmade boots would they fit innawoods or inna desert?

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>>33431021

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>>33431310
I see we share a /bst/ group on facebook together

Fan of condor the huh?

>>33431758
Are you an estonian?

rare ranger green marshal lbt 6094 for sale $400 shipped

>>33432893
pics?

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>>33432955

>>33432998
are you selling it?

>>33430272
Looking for a good soft shell jacket, any recs?
Was going to pic up at PCU lvl 5 but wanted to know my alternatives.

>>33430690
>>33431611
Not bad/10

>>33432893
fuck off pb

For those /k/ommandos who want a cheap LBT 6094, $133 new shipped. The catch is its black, so if you like to stand out by not blending in, LgtKit has you covered

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-London-Bridge-LBT-6094-Plate-Carrier-Vest-LARGE-L-MOLLE-Black-Custom-/302047579125?hash=item4653704bf5:g:OmMAAOSw0UdXt3Ma

>>33432893
Wow, didn't know kikes frequented Peruvian flute music forums

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>>33431816
Those DDPM rain trouser are the best and cheap

>>33432628
W-why do you ask?

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>>33431632
I spent the night before last holed up in my tent out at Lake Ray Hubbard. Huge ass storm blew through and knocked out power and dropped a tree on a vouple kinds' tent. Luckily they got out before it came down. I was so hammered and tired as soon as the wind evened out I passed right out then proceeded to freeze my nuts off all night. Last time I say "I probably wont need my heater" when camping ever again.

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Need more than one picture or is this fine?

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r8 my gear

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>>33436357
Here's the non edited one, but the other one looks better for sure.

>>33436534
wrong bipod/10

>>33436544
That's the original HK bipod not dump repro crap.

>>33436566
That's the shitty version of the HK bipod.

Is AR500 good? Not the plate carriers and shit but the plates themselves.

>>33436897
no. buy ceramic plates

>>33436897
No. QC issues, recalls, fake 3+ NIJ rating, and steel a shit. Not to mention their ceramics are heavier and more expensive then a lot of other options out there.

>>33436929
>>33436932
Alternatives?

I'm not a gunfighter here. I just want a good home defense kit.

Saw this in the pastbin and this suits my needs well http://www.greyghostgear.com/product-p/0007.htm just need something to put inside.

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>>33436990
>alternatives
he literally said ceramics.
https://highcomsecurity.com/collections/plates/products/guardian-4sas-7?variant=361423011
but here

>>33436990
Did you see the part in the pastebin about places to buy armor as well? If not it's in there.

Look for NIJ LVL IV ceramic plates.

>>33430272
>http://pastebin.com/8wjMuz3w


Not a single carrier with Kevlar inserts. Bunch of faggots die because a .22/shotgun/shrapnel/handgun does not hit on their little plate but their right shoulder, lower back etc.

That list is an abominable act of faggotry

>>33437005
Sorry, I meant brands not just alternative to AR500.

Thanks for the link, I didn't find them in the pastebin but upon using CTRL+F I discovered I am, in fact, retarded.

>>33430272
>http://pastebin.com/4mi0WzZH

Faggots who can't afford leather holsters

> Leather must be reinforced in order for you to be able to safely reholster.

ARGH

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>>33437028
>Actually wanting BALCS CIRAS inserts

Then buy a CIRAS or IOTV or some other turtle vest.

>lower right shoulder
Do you know how plate placement works?
>Lower back
Sucks ass, but significantly less vitals there than behind your plates.

>>33437032
>using CTRL+F
Based.

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>>33437028
>he thinks a carrier with inserts is enough
LOL good luck getting killed when your leg gets torn off or you get shot in the face. Anything besides complete IV body coverage isn't enough.

>>33437069
We Master Chief now.
>>33437061
>Leather
Kydex > Leather for literally everything, are you retarded?

>>33437065
>>>33437028>Actually wanting BALCS CIRAS insertsThen buy a CIRAS or IOTV or some other turtle vest.>lower right shoulder Do you know how plate placement works?>Lower backSucks ass, but significantly less vitals there than behind your plates.>>33437032>using CTRL+FBased.


You have reading issues
>does not hit on their little plate but their right shoulder

No plate placement does that. Kevlar does.

Not arguing with stupid. Anyone who uses those recommendations deserves to die from stupid.

>>33437091
>Kydex > Leather for literally everything, are you retarded?

Muh plastic shit

https://www.epsaddlery.com/c-9-holsters.aspx

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>>33437104
>he doesnt stack 3 IV plates on top of eachother on his chest
>gets hit by .50 bmg
>dies
you're basically asking for it at this point anon

>>33437104
Now you have a hole in your shoulder, chances being it didn't puncture your Tharocoacromial so not it just hurts like a bitch and you can't use your arm. Sucks but a ways away from dying.

>No plate placement does that. Kevlar does.
And then you get shot by hadji with an AK and it goes through your 3a rated insert anyways?

Good point, you sure got me.

>>33437141
And then it rains on you, you sit on it for 20 minutes and it deforms. Nice. What a great material.

Or, on the other hand you layer it so thick that it's >2x as heavy as a perfectly good very little flaws kydex holster. Nice. Good material.

>>33437104
I'm sorry but from which actual unit are you from? How long have you studied and analyzed combat casualties? Are you any sort of engineer or do you only just shitpost? You are trying to be hard and talk abot shit you have no idea about. Plates and plate carriers are created and worn for a reason, your incessant fudd shitposting is honestly stunning. You have absolutely 0 idea what the fuck you are talking about, you should go clean your shitty mossberg again, stroke your antlers that someone else shot for you, wear your mossy oak and go buy another 300 pcks of cigarettes because only that would possibly equate to the amount of cancer idiots like you are to this board. Kill yourself.

>>33437158
>>he doesnt stack 3 IV plates on top of eachother on his chest>gets hit by .50 bmg>diesyou're basically asking for it at this point anon


I'd imagine that larping high speed low drag fantasist teen faggot operators would be enraged that running around with plates only is a ball of stupid.

Yet it is. Anyone who does not bother with lvl 3 Kevlar but wears plates is an epidemic of stupid.

>>33437214
>Anyone who does not bother with lvl 3 Kevlar but wears plates is an epidemic of stupid.
>literally every operator ever

>>33437214
Yeah, you should wear as much armor as physically possible so when you get caught up not being able to move you can at least take all the shots and keep going..

Oh, wait you can't because it's 3a and literally any rifle that someone's going to be shooting at you at home or overseas will go right through it.

Vehicle or POG ops, sure. If you're actually moving and doing shit then no. If you're really hauling ass then armor altogether is a ball of stupid.

Get your fuddlore out of here.

>>33437207
>I'm sorry but from which actual unit are you from? How long have you studied and analyzed combat casualties? Are you any sort of engineer or do you only just shitpost? You are trying to be hard and talk abot shit you have no idea about. Plates and plate carriers are created and worn for a reason, your incessant fudd shitposting is honestly stunning. You have absolutely 0 idea what the fuck you are talking about, you should go clean your shitty mossberg again, stroke your antlers that someone else shot for you, wear your mossy oak and go buy another 300 pcks of cigarettes because only that would possibly equate to the amount of cancer idiots like you are to this board. Kill yourself.

Such teen angst butthurt.

Advising people not to wear Kevlar is irresponsible, stupid, feckless and moronic. Good luck with hole in you asshat. Do you have any comprehension of the number of lives saved by soft Kevlar even BEFORE plates came around.

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>>33437214
>wearing Kevlar
>think you're safe
>direct hit with type 94 naval gun
>fucking dies

>>33437244
> you should wear as much armor as physically possible
this anon knows whats up

>>33437267
Post your gear, please. You probably don't have any because they don't make XXXL sized plate carriers.

>>33437244
>Oh, wait you can't because it's 3a and literally any rifle that someone's going to be shooting at you at home or overseas will go right through it.


Except for all frag, richochets, .22, birdshot, handguns etc.

But no...why not have kids telling kids to e.g clear a building without soft Kevlar and just plates.


Asshattery galore in those pastebins. Blackhawk down the larp.

After all it's not like anyone has handgun, shotguns or .22s or takes fire from distance etc.

Faggotry.

>>33437310
>Post your gear, please. You probably don't have any because they don't make XXXL sized plate carriers.

OK your on.

>>33437334
Well, we're waiting.

>>33437323
>Except for all frag, richochets, .22, birdshot, handguns etc.

I'll delve into your larp fantasy world for a second.
>frag
Really depends on what's actually exploding beside you and where you are. If you're in a closed room where the walls won't give then most generous explosions kill you from over pressure and tear you in half anyways. Down a street then it would be handier to have better protection for sure but kevlar's not going to save you from getting your legs blown off in the situation something goes off very close.

>richochets
Extreme larp fantasy and can hardly talk about it

>.22
If bubba's shooting at you with a .22 then you don't even need armor, just fucking shoot him, but at any rate plates will work just fine if not exceedingly well against bubba and his .22.

>birdshot
And then the birdshot doesn't even come close to killing you anyways

>handguns
and handguns fucking suck at killing people, wear side plates, have plates call it a day. You get shot in the lower stomach with 9mm and there's >90% statistically by hospital and treatment time chance you'll live.

I still don't see what your ranting about. Nothing wrong with BALCS but it's fucking retarded for anything but vehicle ops for IED protection and Fallujah Infantry fighting.

I'm not sure why you're bringing up .22's or handguns anyways since if someone shot you in the same place with a rifle then it would be far more harmful. Where if either or hit your plate your fine compared to 3a where rifles will go through.

>>33437380
>Well, we're waiting.

Phone charging

LVL 4 ceramics
MTV
IOTV + options
Bristol ceramic tile inserts
Custom ceramic tile inserts
Assorted extras

>>33437421
Anyone want to see what a ricochet from a 7.62x39 does to a meyer insert?

>>33437421
>MTV
Hah
>IOTV
HAHA
>custom ceramic tile inserts
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA DUCT TAPE AND TILES DONT COUNT AS PLATES

>>33437421
>Bristol ceramic tile inserts
>Custom ceramic tile inserts
Never heard of them, link?

>IOTV + options
God, why? Assuming it was issued and you came back with it. Gear use outside deployment is a lot different then deployed desu. Any gunfight you get into won't be multiple hour engagement it will most likely be an extremely fast and decisive engagement where you or they run away or die and EMS comes shortly after.

Post pics when you can.

>>33430341
>>33430368
>>33430382
>>33430393
>>33430398
>>33430409

look this faggot posted it again

>>33430402

stop encouraging these faggot

>>33430462

>when not in use

so... always

>>33430522

>will never be used. if i was actually getting shot at i would have more training and more medical shit.

wow an honest anon. a faggot airsoft bitch but honest

>>33430690

will never use/10

>>33431021

shocking, a tripfaggot plays dress up and asks his mom to take a picture, because what's the point of shooting guns if you aren't being a poser and posting proof on the internet

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>>33437469
I really really really liked this post.
(you)
+1

I know this is asking a lot but can we actually fucking post about gear or something.

Another pic. Hopefully 3's enough and the "dress up tripfaggot with his mom taking pictures of him" comes back and gives yay/nay.

>>33436534

best post in thread

>>33436897

considering you'll never be in a gunfight, they'll stop as many bullets as ceramic

>>33436990

You'll never put on a plate carrier to defend your home. stop living in your fantasy world. Invest in decent locks and don't tell people what kind of nice, expensive things you own so no one has a reason to come steal them.

>>33437323
>>33437405

>shit that will never happen

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>>33437437

Custom are meyer vario ceramic squares lined over Kevlar as made by vario

Way out of your league. They are the black inserts. Used in NI, by the BW in Somalia and will stop a 7.62 x 39 on their own with no plate 50% doe to the ceramic grid in the liner

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Guys stop shitposting, you're triggering people in discord.

>>33437467
>Assuming it was issued and you came back with it.

Do not discuss. Actually given to me by an Estonian guy who lost a bet

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>>33437469
nice post

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>>33437545
This.

>>33437568
ucp


oh my fuck m80
u aint serious are u??

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Anyone still want to discuss larping with no Kevlar?

I have a mountain of this shit and at one point sold it by the ton for distribution to retards like you faggots. I've also had two stops by soft armour.

Keep being retards all you want. It's your life.

But telling people not to wear soft Kevlar is borderline criminal stupid.

>>33431021
Done.
>>33436357
>>33436538
>>33437498

>>33437595
>ucpoh my fuck m80u aint serious are u??

I used wear the one in the centre but have also used the mtv thing as a carrier over the black inserts in a tan cover. I have never had a reason to use ucp.

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>>33437421
>>33437537
>>33437568
>>33437604
You do realize all that armor is pointless unless you're doing vehicle ops or patrols right?
Mobility>Protection
In any case where any of us would be using this gear, whether it be hiking or insurgency/LARP, we would want to be as mobile as possible.

>>33437640
>You do realize all that armor is pointless unless you're doing vehicle ops or patrols right?Mobility>ProtectionIn any case where any of us would be using this gear, whether it be hiking or insurgency/LARP, we would want to be as mobile as possible.


You are being dumb.

I'm here because soft armour stopped not plates. Just off the plate on my back right shoulderblade and another on the right shoulder. Second time about 5 hits from a 9mm to my back.

I still have the damaged insert. Hang on until the phone gets more charge and I'll post it. First stop was a AK 7.62 from about 200-300 meters, dunno what kind of handgun was used the second time as I went down for a bit (hit on lower spine) and someone else kept it.;

I get dead arms easily now though on the right side and my back bitches a bit but that is probably more from doing stupid shit with rucks on.

>>33437755
And what were you doing?

>>33430732
Nah man... just nah. This is the epitome of a rig that hasn't been put to use. Like sure canteens are fine, but put them to the left and right of the rear for your pack, the 100rd pouches on the back are stupid and there's no good reason when you could take literally any small or large pack and put it there, and be able to access it without taking your whole rig off.

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Alright /gqg/!

The new medical pastebin is out.

http://pastebin.com/LMC5BWED

Whoever has editing rights to the OP pastebins, swap out the old IFAK guide to this one, when you read this.

All feedback is appreciated, however the authors of the guide do not monitor the thread religiously, so you have better odds of catching us on the chat.

>>33437784
>And what were you doing?

Being stupid.

Security for an EOD evac that went bad while co-operating with some indigenous forces and the second time just having a piss and a smoke with armed locals who were portering. Stupid..Smoking will kill me yet

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>>33437568
>>33437604
That looks a bit uncomfortable . Do those plates fit that carrier properly?

>>33437755
Can we have a story, please?

>>33437860
>That looks a bit uncomfortable . Do those plates fit that carrier properly?

The black kit i9s not a carrier, they are ceramic lined Kevlar. Same as lvl3a but with a grid of ceramic squares over it. They will fit the likes of Bristol vests and any of the vario carriers. I had a set that fit the Danish/german style flack vest cut with float padding...that was my best vest but it got shot. The ceramic tiles are bink coloured and crumble to cement like dust when hit

The plates will go in anything with a plate pocket. More important is they are the same weight so don't cause forward back slop and are well shaped for me.

That's the story. Stupid and tired and too many people moving about

>>33437860
>Do those plates fit that carrier properly?

Thje MTV thing was good to throw the plates in as you could throw it on over anything. I have a tan carrier made of suede-like leather with a silk liner that takes soft Kevlar that has had more use then the rest. It is very comfy. It takes an iotv like set (front opening)

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>>33437857
>Security
Exactly, you're not being high speed low drag, which most of us try to do. If I was a walking target, of course it would make more sense wearing armor.
In a grunts like of work, yes armor makes sense.
In a high speed low drag operator line of work, no it doesn't.

>>33436534
Barely even gear/10

I like your rifle though, points for having the bayonet lug and bayonet.

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>>33438106
>Exactly, you're not being high speed low drag, which most of us try to do.

O Lordy.

>>33438106
>In a high speed low drag operator line of work, no it doesn't.

Well I'm pretty confident you will never be 'operating' with me so no fucks are given, However if you were and had no Kevlar on it would be handy to have someone around to clean and make coffee. If you are 'operating' and someone fucks a nade you will be covered in little holes and when some prick shoots you in the nads with a .22 you will be equally sorry you were all high speed in an urban environment in stead of just putting your Kevlar on like a sensible lad.

The point is that most people here will be at no juncture rein acting being SF men in black in a high altitude high temp environment and in the slim possibility their vest/plates do more than sit in a cupboard may face a home or property intruder, who will probably not be carrying anything that will go through soft armour but who may hit off plate easily. So why encourage stupid?

The scenarios where plates only are possibly correct are vanishingly small compared to the scenarios where soft armour (yeadh and maybe plates) make sense. Plates only matter if your opponent has centerfire rifles and you have medivac

Curse you /k. Now I have to put all that shit back in flat.

My dog is sitting on it now looking pleased.

>>33438106
>If I was a walking target, of course it would make more sense wearing armor.


As soon as you walk around nearly anywhere with a long arm that you are prepared to use. That's exactly what you are.

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>>33437566
chicom on fleek

>>33437469
>(You)

>>33438226
Sounds like you recommend armor, but not necessarily plates? If you're already adding the weight, why protect yourself in half-measures? Of course, soft armor is better than nothing, and armor in general isn't always appropriate...

>>33437207
>I'm sorry but from which actual unit are you from?

Reality

>>33437469
$100 this is Johnson being the literally autistic shitlord he is. Kill yourself already.

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Sunshade and a killflash on my ACOG.

>>33438545
I like that dude with the night camo and I have nothing against garg. In fact I like most trips here EVEN bluemeanie. You wont ever see me shit talking trips so its not me. Nice try though

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>>33438561

>>33438582
Not fooling me you mouth breathing fucktard. Get help.

>>33438611
Are you that one autistic guy whos always "your so weird!" "weirdest trip ever!!" ?

>>33438561
>>33438586

Does this not fuck up the vision?

>>33438470
>>33438470
>Sounds like you recommend armor, but not necessarily plates? If you're already adding the weight, why protect yourself in half-measures? Of course, soft armor is better than nothing, and armor in general isn't always appropriate...

Sure have plates but in a manner where you can throw them on over good well fitted soft armour. On their own they are not much use because even if they stop if you take a centerfire rifle round anywhere off them from under 200M you will be pretty fucked anyway. Bullets move inside in weird ways. You will need rapid medical attention. Most threats will come from handguns, frag, blast, 22s shotguns and regular impacts. If the other side have centerfire rifles there is no point in wearing plates unless you have a medic and still always a point in wearing kevlar. There is nearly always a point in wearing soft armor in any scenario. Most people on here may only use their armour facing a home invader etc. Plates only is a bad choice compared to soft armour. It's great stuff. Most modern level 3a torso stuff is very light. Fuck knows how many lives have been saves by it.... tens of thousands....more.?

Blast, frag and ricochet contrary to what some have said is a big deal in buildings and closed in areas. Again soft armour is a big help. Plates only not so much.

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>>33438561
why did you use burlap when you could have used a scrim

>>33438637
Nope, it actually works well. I thought the burlap strands might have been too thick as I made it, but they disappear and you don't notice them at all.

>>33437615
Thank

>>33438665
Didn't have any scrim I was willing to chop up. I have pounds and pounds of burlap.

>>33432562
Add me homo

>>33438667
Nice

>>33438684
can't blame you then

>>33438470
>Sounds like you recommend armor, but not necessarily plates? If you're already adding the weight, why protect yourself in half-measures? Of course, soft armor is better than nothing, and armor in general isn't always appropriate...


I also got used to the feel of a torso vest and just like it. Feels snug and good. I think the IOTV is a bad design more because the plates and the Kevlar are always on together. You need the plates as something you can throw on and the torso Kevlar as snug and comfy as possible, well done it should even give some back support. It is always worn, the plates when needed.

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Helmet with some burlap from a 3/4 top angle. I did this when I was drunk & bored.

>>33430284
Is the gear on that site any good, or is it basically airsoft garbage?

>>33430284
eagle ind makes a bag that holds 300 rounds of linked 7.62

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More shit

Bristol with buttstop left and right (old fav), neo- civvie tan carrier (think with shoulderpad) and bits of iotv

>>33437537
>somalia
Yeah totally out of my leauge kid. Not like I have a pair of NIJ IVs that'll stop a fair bit more than shitty russian ammo. LMAOing at ur life

>>33439055
>Yeah totally out of my leauge kid. Not like I have a pair of NIJ IVs that'll stop a fair bit more than shitty russian ammo. LMAOing at ur life

>>33437537

Those ARE lvl IV ceramic shaped plates in that picture. Rated to stop 30.06 black tip.

You blind?

Go buy some ceramic grid + Kevlar inserts. Hint you will fail. The closest you can get is that dragonskin shit. Try buying the secotec thin plates while you are at it.


Although I am laughing at you for claiming to own lvl 4 ceramics while not even recognising a set.
Tell me did your parents give you the money to play dress up or did you borrow it?

any WAfag want to buy a ranger green lbt 6094?

>>33439243
>wearing rectangular profile plates
nah

>>33439434
Triple curved rectangle back plates are comfy af.

>>33437437
>>custom ceramic tile insertsHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA DUCT TAPE AND TILES DONT COUNT AS PLATES


Spastic teen larper. Try listening and putting on soft armour with plates instead of giving dangerous and stupid advise based on fantasy and daydreams.

>>33437854
Good job, it looks much better.

>>33439443
maybe for back plates

i don't think i see a regular cut front plate in there but maybe im blind

>>33439434
>>wearing rectangular profile platesnah

They fit me well but I am nearly exactly average build and height so get lucky with that.

>>33439465
>maybe for back plates i don't think i see a regular cut front plate in there but maybe im blind


Look again. It's there. Shaped front and back.

>>33439466
I'm "average" as well (5'11" 185lbs) but a correctly sized rectangular plate would be a real pain for shouldering a rifle or shooting a pistol two handed. Maybe the real reason your plates don't give you enough coverage is cause you're wearing them one size down.

>>33439481
By regular cut I meant SAPI. Should have clarified.

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2005 CAG kit im working on

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>>33439602
How well's your LARP working out for you?

>>33439602
Thats fucking cool I like you.

>>33439484
>I'm "average" as well (5'11" 185lbs) but a correctly sized rectangular plate would be a real pain for shouldering a rifle or shooting a pistol two handed. Maybe the real reason your plates don't give you enough coverage is cause you're wearing them one size down.


They are correctly sized and fitted.


approx. 12 x 10 inch (maybe a bit more like 12.3)

They cover exactly as they should on me leaving full movement on both arms and abdomen..

>>33439602
Ooooooohhhh, is that a legit Paraclete HPC?

>>33439484

Are you asking about the black secotec plate I thought you were asking about the shaped ceramic lvl 4s?

>>33439630
pretty gud :DDDDDDDDD
i do impressions along with real actually useful kits >>33439645
i wish man

>>33439675
then post your "real actually useful kit"

???

>>33439659
no i was thinking about the level 4s. Never been able to get the rectangular front plates to work for me.

>>33439683
im in between shit at the moment. just sold my 6094a to buy other shit. whoops

>>33439725
>selling 6094's
Unless you upsold it to some airshitter that doesn't know how to find the lbt website itself why?

>>33439689
>no i was thinking about the level 4s. Never been able to get the rectangular front plates to work for me.

My torso is very deep but with wise not so broad. The plates should cover nipple to nipple and from top of sternum down.

Bigger plates would disrupt movement and be a poor fit for me. Those work perfectly. I have a few sets of them and a few others in a junk box but that set fit perfect and chime, even now.

I'm getting old so none of this stuff will ever be used again anyhow in all likelihood.

>>33439747
im switching to chest rigs, i like them alot more.

>>33439765
>im switching to chest rigs, i like them alot more

I still prefer old brit/german/Austrian/fmj lbe but not many do anymore either plce/lks/alice etc

Most I ever got used to was three chest pouches but would rather have the ;lbe. I do not loike the plates or Kevlar or lbe to be in one.

Probably the only person here who hates molle.

>>33439446
you're as autistic as armorus without the useful knowledge

>>33439839
lol ill prolly just end up buying a chicom or something like that and putting the money into my ar

>>33439887
>you're as autistic as armorus without the useful knowledge

If I knew who armorous was I might care. Wear your Kevlar and get a good fitting torso lvl 3a soft and a plate carrier that you can throw on over it and stop listening to bullshit. In the event that you retain shoulder movement or avoid a colostomy bag or dialysis because some nigger shot you with a junk gun in the stomach and torso you can say a prayer for me in thanks and ponder what would have happened if you just had plates.. A gunshot wound is not just for Christmas it is usually for life.

>>33439905
>lol ill prolly just end up buying a chicom or something like that and putting the money into my ar

A good system should allow above all proper weight distribution left and right and forward and back while allowing you to lie flat and access. Loads of fashion these days for piling stuff on the front of the torso because no one walks anymore and it makes for easy access in a vehicle but it is nice to fuck mother earth sometimes which a pile of shit strapped to your front will impair...Keep lbe separate to plates and both separate to soft armor.

I like old style lbes because it is easier to prepare them so they are balanced (for me). I don't know how people do that well with an all in one plate/soft/molle pouches all over the place rig.

>>33439887
>you're as autistic as armorus without the useful knowledge

Don't ever wear a helmet that won't let you shoot prone.

You're welcome.

>>33440058
this is only an issue in bongistan where your acquisitions people don't know how to talk to soldiers

meanwhile this has been a solved problem since the days of the MICH and arguably much earlier

>>33439887
>you're as autistic as armorus without the useful knowledge

If you and your buddies are ever surrounded and under heavy fire. Go against instinct stop returning fire and wait until they leave.

You are welcome

That is actually a life saver.

>>33440093
that is just retarded

>>33440129
>that is just retarded

Maybe but it works and it is better than dead.

>>33440148
who did this work against again? cause it sure sounds to me like the exact kind of bullshit tactic that only works against incompetent talibs who spend all day shooting at nothing and then go home and sleep without posting a watch at night.

>>33440185
Relax kid empowered with that you have now increased your odds of living forever just like you always thought you would

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afUj8ofVDew

>>33440283
you sound exactly like the kind of closed-minded conventional forces veteran that everyone hates.

if something happened to you once you cite it as an example over and over even though other people had literally opposite experiences

you insist that there's essentially only one solution to any problem, whether that be gear or tactics, and it's always the solution that you used yourself in a policing action against inept, nearsighted tribesmen shooting 40 year old rifles with no zeros and mixed up lots of ammo. if other people with comparable training and combat experience to you chose a different solution, you try to pretend they don't exist or that somehow their experience is less valid

you have literally no knowledge of trends in equipment or tactics outside your own tiny bubble but insist that your own way is best and that other ways will get people killed.

>>33440563
B L O W N T H E F U C K O U T

>>33438621
No, that's me, and it's true.

You saying you would never ever shit talk trips is just another sign of your retardation.

>>33438659
>there is no point in wearing plates unless you have a medic

Some of the things you say are smart, but this is pretty fucking retarded.

>only wear your seatbelt if you are near hospitals and ambulances.

>>33441124
Half of his statement holds merit. Plates are there to keep you conscious in a gunfight, without readily available treatment or extensive medical knowledge (i.e. SHTF) you're likely to die from blood loss and sepsis.

>If the other side have centerfire rifles there is no point in wearing plates
full retard

>>33441579
What the fuck are you talking about? Plates are there to stop bullets and keep your vitals non soupified. They don't keep you "conscious" in any direct sense of the word. Plates are for stopping holes before they form. Once they do you're in need of med.

>>33442027
Once you're hit on your vitals, you're out of the gunfight. Hits to your extremities are not immediately lethal or will render you unconscious. Hence why the only medical treatment authorized to be applied in an active firefight are TQ's. Body armor can only do so much when paired with effective field treatment and surgery, as you can still bleed out or die days later from infection.

>Plates are for stopping holes before they form
????

Plates are to protect vital organs so you don't damage them. They are much harder to deal with and treat. Damage to them can also bring a lot of long term damage compared to a regular bullet wound in the arm.

I don't always get my advise on armor from complete strangers but when I do it's on 4 chan.

Re supply inbound

>Chem sticks
>550 cord
>Leatherman
>New Headlamp

Also some admin gear like

>Bic lighter
>Electrical tape

>>33442053


>once you are hit in the vitals, you are out of the gunfight.

You can stop the whole paragraph there. What we have been saying is PLATES ARE USED SO THAT WHEN SOMEONE SHOOTS A FIREARM AT YOUR CENTERMASS(where you're vital organs are) THE BULLET WILL BE STOPPED, BY THE PLATE.

>plates are for stopping holes before they form
>??????

>No plates on
>someone shoots you in chest
>you now have hole in chest

>plates on
>someone shoots you in chest
>You have no hole in chest

It's really that fucking simple.

>>33443169
congrats, you don't know how to read.

A retard like >>33442336 can see the benefits of plates. Whether you wear them or not, you are still susceptible to non-lethal non-vitals wounds without proper medical care following it. OP was arguing that the survivability with plates is only as good as the treatment available.

>>33431217

Just got mine a few days ago after seeing another anon in these threads who had one. Custom made for my HK USP .45 Tactical. Gorgeous and fits like a glove. I got it with the G-Code RTI compatibility. Only took 2 weeks for a custom order.

What do you queer take camping?

Just bought a sleeping bag, camping pack, one of those thermal sheets that lay under the sleeping bag, as well as a poncho and alreadt own a basic half broken multitool.

Planning on buying a bivvy and basic range/outdoor med supplies next.

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>>33443205
>a retard like (You)

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>>33443548
ATF/10

Rip doggo

>>33443498
toilet paper and food

>>33443569
Yeah, that's a given.

I was referring to other necessities that I might have forgotten

>>33443564
Obviously asking for a youtube film I'm thinking about making

>>33443498
>Tent (size depends on number of people)
>Sleeping bag
>Woobie
>Ground pad
>Inflatable pillow
>Waffle top abd pant under clothes/sleep clothes
>Rain jacket
>t-shirts
>2x sock pairs compared to days out
>Flipflops
>Headlamp
>Multiple flashlights
>Electric light sticks
>Cotton balls covered in vaseline
>Lighter, magnesium stick, all strike matches
>Sawyer water filter, iodine tablets
>Fuckload of water for base camp
>Non-cooking required food
>"fun" food like marshmellows & sausage etc (because camping should be fun)
>Maps in sheet protector, sharpie compass, protractor
>Electric GPS & solar charger for it

On phone & missed a lot, but its a start. Short of the tent, extra water, and fun items I can fit everything in GI assault pack with issued pouches.

>>33443593
Forgot: I also bring a small hand hatchat of the non-tacticool variety. It won't feel trees, but it works to chop up dead wood.

>>33443575
extra underwear, a knife or a hatchet if you plan on camping out for a while, fire steel/bic lighter, extra socks, extra warm sweather.

>>33443205
>Survivability with plates is only as good as the treatment available

Yeah, I sure hope I survive a gunshot wound to my plate.

I understand that if you get shot in the arm you can eventually die from it if you pretend like it never happened. but that really has absolutely nothing to do with wearing plates and the survivability of wearing them.

Let's try this again

>survivability with plates is only as good as the treatment available

I understand that
Plates-GSW to arm-eventual death
No plates-GSW to arm-eventual death

But that is not the purpose of plates
Plates-GSW to heart area-you survive
No plates-gsw to heart-instant death

This is the purpose of plates. AND IT CAN CHANGE SURVIVABILITY, VERY GOD DAMN MUCH.

>>33443690
OP's point being soft armor is underrated for the coverage it provides. Won't stop centerfire rounds but can be advantageous when there's no immediate medical attention nearby.

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Serious question: What is the optimal chemlite color for LARPing?

>>33443498
Ziplocs and Dry sacks - everything goes in a bag.
Mosquito net & other bug repellents.
Utility gloves so you don't get splinters/burns.

Other anons are really picking up the slack with good gear lists

>>33442765
>tfw bought Bics in bulk a few years back
Was only like 90cpb and I still have almost the entire box. Kinda feel like an idiot...

>>33443548
It's a pretty bad idea

>>33443738
I bought like 3 lol not a massive supply.
Also chem color doesn't really matter unless your actually operatin, in which case it will be unit SOP or talked about in mission brief.

If you larping, green is prob the best

>>33443716
If that's the point then soft armor wouldn't change survivability either, no more than plates

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WHY DID HALEY CHANGE THE D3CR REEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>33443498 this>>33431758

>>33443593
The only problem I have in the inflatable pillow

>>33443738
IR if you're pretending

gimme some of those bics

>>33431788
It sounds like the only pro is the color

>>33445094
not going to get anything a whole lot better at that price point

>>33444680

Those primerless fotay mike-mikes though...

>>33439630
Where get Level IV mustache?

Anyone know of a good rig that will fit 30rd FAL mags?

>>33439602
looks really cool, keep us updated

Maybe I'm retarded, but how high should Crye Pants sit?

>>33447172
At your waist.

>>33447192
aa thank you. It seems every other pair of pants I own sits on my hips instead.

>>33445304
Go find 40mm grenades that aren't either replicas, demilled ordnance, or inert training grenades.
>>33446522
You could try a MOLLE chest rig with pouches for Surefire AR15 60 rounders. Do 30rd FAL mags fit in AK pouches? Because in that case I'd honestly just go with a Chicom.

Value of a mich 2002 in really good shape?

>>33447308
$500 ish? $600?

Where can I buy an affordable helmet with decent ballistics? It can be either the old 90's style SWAT a helmet or the newer high cut's with Velcro on them but something under $350-$500 would be ideal

>>33447972
You can get a brand new ACH for less than $175 right now. Ebay.

>>33448019
SHit how do I size my head?? Is large going to be too big?

>>33448019
Also do you know up to what caliber that is okay for?

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>>33437566
>Someone from a separate discord posting my kit.
A...am I cool now.
>>33438470
I've had some expensive rigs but always go back to my chicom.

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What's in the box?

>>33448019
Where can I find a cheap nvg mount surplus? Do I really need one? That little hole up front will throw off my OCD.

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>>33448799

>>33448815
anal beads orrrrrrr ifak?

>>33448815
jealous.

This might be a better question for /out/ but how do I get a good American NVG for my hunter friend to Europe?

>>33449068
I think you might be able to transport it with a person on a plane.

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>>33449068
>good American NVG
>>33449473
>I think you might be able to transport it with a person on a plane.
ITT: how to go to prison

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>>33448841
> anal beads
Degenerate detected

They're PECI TFSS modules

>>33449704
Post a picture of yourself kitted up, with opsec.

You always post nice stuff but it means nothing if its not on your person and done right

>>33449777
My, aren't you pushy?

Why don't you post one of yourself? Don't ask for something when you haven't given, huh?

>>33431828

Which IFAK/mini pouch?

I remember this. Q T G43.

>>33450097

Thanks, ill post an updated picture at the end of the week assuming my orders come in. More or less just some odds and ends, and Ill show the contents of each pouch when I do do that. Hopefully within a month or two Ill get the pistol pouch (being made by esstac) and then the holster for the 43.

IFAK is a coyote tactical stomp

utility pouch is a velocity systems (I should note, how fkin hard it was to find a pouch in ranger green, that was small enough for this belt. I could have gotten something bigger but it would have looked odd, best quality, ranger green pouch I could find for its size) and im really happy with it so far.

>>33449704
>adult pool floaties

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Is there a difference between an ALICE medium ruck and the "man-pack" that commo guys wear? I'm cool with my company's armorer and he gave me an off-the-books man-pack. I had a large ALICE on a frame so I put the pack on it since the large is rather unwieldy unless you're stuffing it.

Me with my conversation piece for your time

>>33450519
The medium ruck is bigger, but that still works, thats the best part of the alice frame

>>33450170

I worry about those KYWIs retaining single stack 9mm mags, but if they work they work. Let me know, buddy. I'm the P238 guy. I'm keeping the stuff for that IWB but I'm curious.

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>>33439602
neat

>>33450699
We will see, ETS is coming out with new G43 Mags, and I contacted esstac, they are going to make new KYWI pouches specifcally for those magazines. So once they come out ill get them. ETS said it was suppose to come out last week, so we will see.

New to the gqc threads. I read the pastebin and it looks like I should buy a plate carrier first then pouches as needed.

Any idea what the best one is? I'd like to stay under $300 or so.

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Fresh /gq/ meme inbound soon
Will be crossing stuff off the chart soon.
>>33438974
Thanks anon, ordered one

I've got about $1k heading into my gun fun and I want to build up a plate carrier.

I'd like some triple curve ceramics if anyone can recommend some, and also updated info on PC's. When I was into them a while ago the Mayflower was all the rage and part of the reason I bought a D3CR but no clue what's good now.

>>33450783
oh god what meme did you get

>>33450731
Crye JPC on ebay
LBT 6094 when it goes on 50% sale (which they do sometimes)

>>33438106
god damn these dress up threads


Unless youre CIA SAD you'll be wearing armor, hard or soft 99.99% of the time you are outside the wire.

>>33450867
Read the pastebin, mayflowers are still good. Front runners right now are like FS AVS, Crye JPC, LBT 6094, and more. Not in that order specifically but yeah.

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>>33449704
Sell those to me. I hereby declare a gucci off

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>>33450783
Multiple memes im collecting, will post when they arrive.

>>33450904
Crye AVS, JPC, JPC 2, mayflower apc, 6094, AWS OCPC are all the super common PC's you see here.


Also requestion update to the battle belts section of the pastebin to include the Tyr Tactical Gun Fighter and the Ronin Tactics Senshi.

>>33450929
Sauce on the jacket?

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>>33450954
Arcteryx Atom SV

>>33450983
>Filename
Nice.

>>33447972
>>33448019
>>33448810 <- anyone answer this? is it even neccessary, is there some type of plug or screw i can place there so i can keep the helmet the way it is and stick some velcro 3M on the sides?

or do i go with helmet cover?

>>33450983
You look like a thug from Die Hard 2.

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>>33451021
Just ebay NVG mounts, youll see Norotos Dove tails, etc etc etc, older surplus ones, newer ones. Buy a surplus one for cheap. Can get them for like 20 bones. If your not mounting NVG's to them they are fine. Also as far as velcro they are just attached via the glue on the velcro strips, so yeah velcro 3m will work fine.

If you get one like in pic related just make sure you get the right one theres two different kinds, one for like mich2000, and one for PASGT. You can bend it and make it work but just buy it right the first time.

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>>33450093

I'm not the one that said that, but come on you big baby

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>>33450714

What about something like BFG Ten-Speeds if you don't want the traditional flap and velcro pouch?

For CCW stuff I really like Kytex. I ordered one side-reversed so I can IWB it.

>>33451222

>ordered

Ordered it a long time ago, I've been using it for over a year.

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>>33451079
NEW MSA ACH SOF Ballistic Helmet W/helmet Pads & CHIN Strap Sz: Large NWOT

>Does that many any sense to you or what I should get in terms of mount?

>>33451222
Yeah they are pretty nice, i have considered going straight kydex, Im not concealing it so Im not too worried, I was looking at some side by side kydex mag holsters but they take up a lot of room.

As far the BFG, thats basically my back up. If these don't get made or something for some reason, I have to go another route ill likely be getting those. I lean going the KYWI route just because it would be easier to re-index magazines, becuase *hopefully* the retention is good enough to not need the flap over them

>>33451266

Dude why are you not concealing your G43? You mean for this set-up or just in general?

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>>33451079
>>33451252
Here's a picture of the front of the helmet

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>>33451050
Is that a good thing?

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>>33451287
I do CC the G43, however in that specfic belt set up its a battle belt, so I wear that outside the waistband, I couldnt conceal all the pouches and shit on there. I IWB during the day.

>>33451295
Basically google "ACH NVG mount" and you'll find a bunch of options. This is what it would look like. Again aslong as you arent mounting NVG's to it this is enough just for looks. If you mounted NVG's you'd need a bunch more stuff, which would cost more. But this would be pretty cheap.

Where do I put 3 AR mags if I don't have any side molle on my plate carrier and don't want to double stack? Feel like it'd be excessive to dump all of it on a belt.

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>>33451295
>>33451318
search

NVG USGI MILITARY BLACK ACH HELMET NIGHT VISION BRACKET MOUNT W/ SCREW

on ebay 16$

Make sure you get the screw if you dont have one already.

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>>33450907
Sorry, my kidneys aren't for sale.

>>33451170
>>33449777

To stop all of the whining.

>>33451318
>>33451365
hmm, thanks for the advice guys. I'll get the mount and sidestep the NOD because who the fuck has $4000 laying around for something I'll never use

since the helmet comes in OD, is there a way I can paint it black? Do I need spray cans? Something that won't leave a sticky residue so it picks up dust or grass etc

>>33451318
>>33451365
>>33451406
on this note, when I get the 3M velcro stuff, where can I buy a legal IR US flag to attach to the side?

I was checking some websites and it's only available to LE/MIL

>>33451406
You can spray it just fine, ton of videos online showing different patterns and what not you can do with spray cans

Can any of you armorfags tell me if I want multicurve shooters cut or swimmers cut...

>>33451486
what works best for you, fucking idiot

>>33451390
Woah what belt?

>>33451439
Fleabay

http://r.ebay.com/pJTNB6

>>33451499
Well I can't just test the shit out at the local piggly wiggly now can I? I'm asking for advice on a discussion board, dickus. Post your plates please, enlighten me.

>>33451266
>doesnt cc

>owns and uses g43 as main pistol

>>33451557
No, fucking find out what works for you best. God your such a fucking retard. Dude go to a gunshow, go to a store that sells this shit and find the fuck out.

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>>33451486
Multicurve is how the plate is curved.
Swimmers cut is the 2d shape of the plate.

You want multicurved and swimmers cut at the same time. No swimmers cut == A bitch to shoulder rifles. No multicurve == terrible comfort.

>>33451577
W R O N G

If you read I do CC it. Just not with the belt I posted here. I use a completely different set up for that, this isn't an EDC thread therefore I won't post my edc.

>>33451509
BDS Tactical Riggers Belt

I think they changed the design after I bought it.

>>33451439
IR is restricted to ITAR so you gotta be a US citizen to buy from most stores (US), eBay is an option but there's a ton of stores that IR flag patches, just google it

>>33451577
>>33451318
Sorry dude, I obviously can't read.

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>>33451584
Judging by your anger and shitty grammar I'm guessing you're poor, and thus not someone I need to be talking to about things that cost more than $100.

>>33451603
Holy shit a helpful response, thank you. I'm on HighCom but it doesn't look like they have a multicurve swimmer cut, so bulletproofme it is.

>>33451337
Surely this is bait, where else would you put them under those circumstances? On your back panel? Either put them on your help, get a cummerbund with molle, double stack, or don't carry another 3 mags.

This really shouldn't be hard.

>>33451647
Im not angry, poor and english isnt my first language. Go back to /faget/

>>33451647
>Im on HighCom but it doesn't look like they have a multicurve swimmer cut, so bulletproofme it is.
Guardian 34i1

>>33451635
gotcha, thanks pal

>>33451553
i found some flags on fleabay and i also searched up some velcro and found something for $3.00 for the generic helmet style velcro stuff (flag mount, 2 rectangles and a nvg battery pack mount for the back)

would that last or is that going to fall off in some extreme heat?

>>33451603
on the topic of body armor, is it smart to leave my ceramic level IV plates in my vest, inside my trunk in florida heat? would heat fuck them up, or for that matter, any sort of humidity or is it best to bring them inside after i get home?