Blunderbus

>>33423550
since that secures around the front sight it would be impossible to attach to a true obrez.

Think before you waste a perfectly good thread, shit head

>>33423616
Welders exist anon

Op it would be better to load a blank and get one of those small paper cups and use it as a shot cup and load it lime a regular blunderbus

>>33423550
If you stuff this full of freeze plugs would it kaboom?

>>33423830
Propably not. I bet its overbuilt all to fuck like those "solvent traps"

>>33423860
Cant imagine the seal would be all that great with the noise not being reduced to any significant degree should you hypothetically modify it..

>>33423902
It would still slow the expanding gasses. It would probably work decently well.

>>33423902
You could line the socket with a rubbery material, but even without a great seal any reduction would be neat.

Doesn't seem very secure
The bayonet has a spring loaded button that locks onto the front sight

>>33423550
This is the perfect slavic riot weapon
>hand load diffrent power blanks
>load low powder with molotov cocktail
>launch molotov cocktail
>load high power with molotov
>get dragon breath
>load empty vodka bottle with low power
>get ranged bottle attack
>load empty bottle with high power cartridge
>glass bird shot
Can't wait for the next maidan

>>33423744
I think he was referring to the fact that actual obrez mosins didn't have sights.

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>>33423902

The original mosin suppressor attached using the bayonet mount system.

>>33424571
good god, how heavy must a primitive mosin suppressor be?

probably changed point of impact by a foot at 100m

>>33423550
Looks like it could be made into a suppressor

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>>33424613

Probably heavy. Someone told me they were only two chambers with wipes, and came with subsonic rounds ~1000fps. The bramit device.

I don't have much information about them other than that they existed.

Why do golf ball launchers not turn the rifle into a destructive device?

(2) Any weapon by whatever name known which will, or which may be readily converted to, expel a projectile by the action of an explosive or other propellant, the barrel or barrels of which have a bore of more than one-half inch in diameter (.50 inches or 12.7 mm), except a shotgun or shotgun shell which the Secretary finds is generally recognized as particularly suitable for sporting purposes; and

>>33424759
just wait for the next contradictory statement from them, eventually everyone will ignore them and they will be stripped of enforcement power.

>>33424759
Because it's intent isn't as a weapon.

>>33424792

I've seen someone fire a golf ball through a 4x8 sheet of plywood at 30 feet with one, it would probably kill somebody at close range

i mean the rifle is a weapon, then putting a golf ball launcher on it that is like 110caliber is OK

makes no sense to me

not saying it should be illegal, im just saying i don't get it

>>33424814
It's probably gonna end up just like the SB15 did. It wasn't intended as a stock but could be used as one. It's only a matter of time until some asshole hurts someone and they become destructive devices.

>>33424829
Settle down, stocks don't hurt people.

>>33424829

yeah, I mean by the law it's a DD plain and simple, don't see how it's not

i guess they just dont enforce it

>>33424843
I think you misunderstood. It's only a matter of time until the ATI changes their minds on whether they are legal or not, just like with the SB15.
>It's only a matter if time until some asshole hurts someone

I was talking about the golfball launcher

>>33423550

i wonder what would happen if you managed to heat a copper ball bearing of golf ball diameter out of one of these somehow

>>33424886

it would go 100 yards like a grenade launcher attachment

>>33423616
OP btfo.

>>33423550

thanks for killing off a perfectly good thread with this horseshit you fagglord

>>33424918
I learned mosins had suppressors...

>>33424719
The Bramit device was for the M1895 Nagant revolver, but that picture and description is accurate for the rarely fielded M91/30 suppressor.

>>33424792

That's be one hell of a confusing homicide case

>The victim was hit in the head by what appears to have been a golf ball
>The ball was traveling an estimated 700fps at the time of impact

>>33425208
Yeah. I would love to read that headline. "Man killed by golfball"

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OP sells salvaged droids to moisture farmers.

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>>33425044
>>33424719

>>33424814
But is a golf ball launcher really more dangerous than the rifle itself? That's like saying an air rifle duct taped to a rifle immediately makes it a destructive device.

>>33425370
>But is a golf ball launcher really more dangerous than the rifle itself? That's like saying an air rifle duct taped to a rifle immediately makes it a destructive device.

no It's like saying cutting down the barrel of a shotgun makes it an SBS, "more deadly" is not a criteria, just the diameter of the projectile being fired with a cartrige

adding a stock to a GLOCK makes it bigger and harder to conceal but it makes it a Short Barrell Rifle and subject to a tax stamp as an NFA item

>>33425370

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/09/foghorn/breaking-atf-declares-soda-can-launcher-an-aow-all-owners-now-possibly-felons/

>>33425542
Didn't they go back on that though?

>>33425572
>Didn't they go back on that though?

i can't find any documentation of them going back on it

>>33424759
It's in a similar vein as muskets. Seeing as the projectile and propellant are separate entities it qualifies as a muzzleloader.

>>33425613
>>33425572
It was an issue pertaining to the fact that the ATF said live ammunition could be fired through it without any modification. The company remedied the problem and is selling the same product with a slight modification.

>>33424814
Don't try to make sense of the ATF's fuckery

>>33425681
>live ammunition could be fired through it without any modification.
>sausage down a hallway
Literally what would be the point? Christ the ATF is so unbearably autistic.

>>33424870
Every twelve gauge shotgun would be a DD if not for exemptions. This gets an exemption.

>>33424876
>the ATI

Op do you have an SKS? Because a guy I know had one of these for his SKS and it was a shitload of fun.

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Golf ball launchers are fun as fuck. Although that one would probably have a max range of about 150 yds. Mine is the AR version from Tromix that is offset to give the ball a wicked backspin, it fucks off a good 300+

>>33425681
>>33425816
The issue was the barrel was <16"

>>33423550
The second you stick that on a Mosin, Ivan will appear and throttle you with it while screaming about fucking up a perfectly good rifle with anything but the compensator that was designed for it.

>>33425849
>Every twelve gauge shotgun would be a DD if not for exemptions. This gets an exemption.

does it? show me where

>>33425965
Wouldn't that make it an illegal SBR, not an AOW? I thought the ATF said these were AOW.

>>33426187
>Wouldn't that make it an illegal SBR, not an AOW? I thought the ATF said these were AOW.

they did say they were AOW, because they had no stock and were smooth bore in excess of .50cal

>>33426070
things get exempted for sporting purposes and golf is a sport

>>33426214
>22caliber bullet going down a three inch wide "barrel"
Maximum ATF autism. How could you possibly call it a barrel if the "bore" diameter is several times larger than the chamber diameter? Absolutely ridiculous, the worst sort of autism.

>>33426236
I wonder if there are any golf courses that accept this as an alternative to golf clubs.

>>33426247

it's just what they decided, to be fair the projectile and bore of the barrel was far in excess of .50, they should have got an exemption before they started selling them to be honest

>>33426247
Well, the same way those tac sol 10/22 barrels are able to be <16" with the permanently attached suppressor cover. It goes both ways...

>>33425869
Whoops. I meant ATF. Fucking autocorrect extension.

>>33423550
I kind of wonder how they get away with selling these. It would be nearly trivial to make a monolithic baffle stack to shove down that thing.

>>33423616
>>33424918

samefag

nobody cries over "lost threads" you fucking weirdo

>>33423830
It would be extremely fragmented.

>>33423550
Where do you get one?

>>33424759
>expel a projectile by the action of an explosive or other propellant, the barrel or barrels of which have a bore of more than one-half inch in diameter

It's not clear from this sentence but is dependant on how they define "Firearms" being that they use ammo in which the charge/ propellant/ projectile are one piece. Separating the charge from the projectile makes it a "Muzzle-loader"

Golf ball launchers are manufactured so that they are not centered perfectly with the tip of the launcher, specifically so you cannot convert it to a suppressor. If you converted it and shot through it, you would destroy your baffling.

>>33431004
For you

>>33425281
under rated post

>>33431225
pls respond

>>33425965
Can Cannon + Pistol AR = Can Can Cannon

>>33431767
Have you tried googling it?

>>33426070
the actual text of the law exempts shotguns.

>>33426282
no. they shouldn't have.

just like we the people shouldn't have accepted federal tyranny but some lazy British fuckers (and joos) in the Carolinas couldn't be assed to pick their own cotton.

>>33431225
Classic firearms