How can I learn to draw this fast?

>>33423412
The security guard is lucky the robber was even slower and more unaware than he was.

>>33423412
seen this before and was wondering if the guard stood any legal risk taking those last couple shots as he seems to be trying to exit?

I would think not because he still has a gun and could easily of jerked around and still shot.

>>33423412
Slow is smooth and smooth is fast.

If you want to get good at something do that thing.

While you're watching TV or something just do some practice. Do it every day. Don't try to go fast. Try to be efficient. The more you do it the more muscle memory you build the faster you go without even trying.

>>33423463
Castle Doctrine states that if they are on your property, they are a threat, even if they are facing towards the door.

>>33423484
I think OP is joking because of how sloppy and lucky he was.
There was clearly no skill involved, just a late and rushed reaction.

>>33423463
He was not fleeing he was making a tactical retreat for cover

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>>33423484
At the risk of sending /k/ into an angry fervor - this.

Dryfire on a shot timer nightly and run a lot of established drills to measure your gains.

>>33423484
>muscle memory

Does not exist

>>33423412
That man is a fucking hero.

That said, what >>33423484 said. Practice, practice, practice.

>>33423531
?

>>33423412
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMSlCyc-SQQ

watch Ron Avery forever.

>>33423531
>Does not exist
It's called long-term potentiation, LTP scientifically.

>>33423549
>OWB holster with no active retention

Fast draw but gear selection is purely for games.
Not talking shit, just from a practical standpoint it's probably smart to practice how you carry.

>>33423463
Absolutely not that bad guy has already initiated deadly force against everyone in that bank. You can clearly see him firing at the guard. The guard was on the right to continue firing until the threat was incapacitated, he could have still turned and burned on the way out the door, or even retrieved a larger weapon from his vehicle to return to the scene

>>33423463
who to say he wasnt gonna turn around and fire into the bank from outside?

>>33423549
this is hands down the best video I've seent for improving draw speed. I hope some day to take a class from the man himself.
>>33423576
The little chode Ron was instructing is a little chode.
If you watch the full video, you'll see them practice from concealment as well as from standard OWB 3 o'clock

Looks like he almost shot himself on the hand on the first shot.

>>33423531
Oh thank God.... I can learn everything once and sit in front of my TV all day.

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A fast draw?

>>33423664
Oh thank god.... I can misrepresent arguments I don't understand on the internet forever.

>>33423607
Fair enough, yeah and Cory is a turbofag, that whole channel's success is hinged on everyone's desire to fuck his gf

>>33423704
Sex sells.

>>33423531
>I've never worked in a factory, the reply.

>>33423753
>>33423664
You're probably talking to a 12 year old child, or someone who stopped developing mentally at that age.

>>33423412
That girl in yellow had better awareness than the rest of them combined. Head up and on a swivel the minute she saw the guy running down the street then make an entry.

>>33423753
I'm not giving him a (you), so more like he's never played a sport in his life.

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>all this asshurt from manual laborers because they think muscles hold memories

>>33423821
It's called hebbian plasticity, often referred to in colloquial vernacular as muscle memory.

It's very real sperglord

>>33423821
What is this? Did you just now learn how to be a contrarian? Is this babby's first time trying it out?

>>33423523
Also practicing in front of a mirror (with an obviously unloaded or loaded with dummy rounds magazine, obviously) helps a lot in seeing where you might be having problems.

Also helps train you in the event you need to kill your clone.

>>33423821
>weeb is a jobless retard

oh look at that

>>33423906
Jobs are for peons, get a career you dullard.

>>33423856
>hebbian plasticity
lewd

>>33423885
>Also helps train you in the event you need to kill your clone.

I had never considered this, it's a horrifying prospect kek.

But yes, mirror, or even better, film yourself - vanity be damned you gotta see to see.

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>>33423821
>pseudophilosophical weebshit attempting to deb8 working men with his delicate soft hands

>>33423671
9mm fags btfo. Look at how fast that .45 dropped him

>>33423412
That was decently fast, not the fastest, but there were some other serious training issues there.

>Range freeze (standing in the same spot due to training scars from only shooting from a range lane, didn't even take the obvious light cover he had or changing his elevation)
>Shooting one handed (probably forgot to bring the other hand up in the adrenaline rush)
>Magdumping wildly (instead of calmly shooting accurately, again likely due to adrenaline)

Overall he done good because he didn't get shot and the bad guy did, but he could have done far better and that comes with the right kind of training, as does drawing speed.

>>33423885
>Also practicing in front of a mirror
You talkin to me?

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>>33424027
>both of us forgot to upload an image
I don't feel as bad anymore

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>>33423412
>that tactical roll

Everytime

>>33424020
>magdumping wildly
There is some virtue in volume of fire. :3d

>>33424122
"Abu Hajaar style"

>>33424020
>not training one handed for extreme close quarters

>>33423412
where does that last shot that put him down hit him at? also was that a FTF or jam ? and he racked it and got a one last clean shot in?

>>33424351
>where does that last shot that put him down hit him at?
I think it was a combo of all the hits, and his body just kinda gave up as he made it out the door

>>33424233
This looks fake.

>>33423412
Smooth Martin Riggs combat roll by the robber

>>33424397
It is fake.

>>33424351
Last shot got him in the leg, probably thigh, and that lamed him going out the door but he was probably so full of lead already he probably went into shock and collapsed.

>>33424233
looks fake

>>33423671
holy fuck that gave me an adrenaline overdose just watching that. intense.

>>33423485
Wrong. Check your state law. TX is pretty lenient, but in most states you can't fire until they actually breach your dwelling. Can't shoot somebody over property if they don't present physical threat, etc.

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>>33423531
kys

>>33423484
this

>>33423463
Thought about that for a second too, but given that the robber was already shooting and still holding the gun, I don't think that'll be an issue in court.

>>33424929
>Wrong
No I'm not.
>Check your state law
So you just admitted you don't know if I'm wrong or not.
> you can't fire until they actually breach your dwelling
If they are in your dwelling facing the door and away from you, they have breached your dwelling.
>Can't shoot somebody over property if they don't present physical threat, etc.
Castle doctrine states that if they are on your property, you can assume they are a physical threat.

>>33424929
Everything you said was wrong.

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>>33423485
>>33425119
This is what it looks like when someone has just enough knowledge to be dangerous.

>>33425119

You are fucking retarded. Thats not how castle doctrine works. If that were the case i could shoot anyone in my house for any reason.

They have to be an immediate threat. Being inside at your front door with their back to you is absolutely not an immediate threat.

>>33425200
Did you even watch OPs vid? Jeebus

>>33425211

Yes. And now we are discussing castle doctrine for some reason even though it has zero relation to that video whatsoever.

>>33423821
You should be required to have a post-secondary education to even post on this site.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2553888/

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>>33425170
bitch please

>>33424233
fake as shit

>>33423412

Where's the rest of the video? Didn't the guy walk up to the dindu, put his foot on it's chest and fire an execution shot in it's ugly face?

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>>33424206
>Abu Hajaar style"
daily reminder

>>33423412

>that tactical GLOCK PERFECTION FTE jam

Another case against the Glock reliability meme.

This happened like 45 mins north of my house. I assume the guard had to have had some training with his pistol probably regularly shot a pistol to be able to smoothly retrieve, release safety, fire all within a split second. Good for him.

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That dab though..

>>33425608
these god damn kids and their god damn dance moves

>>33423523
semi chick lean

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>>33425784
Look at the tires - camera is tilted - I'm shooting and standing on a slope.

>>33425808

could your fucking arms get any skinnier

do some pushups jeez

>>33425872
;___; I'm trying it's hard I eat so much that it hurts my belly and work out every morning and make no gains ;____;

I think I might have tape worms

>>33423412
The Abu Hajaar combat roll is catching on, I see.

>>33424963
What Pixar movie is that pic from?

>>33425808
>"im a faggot please rape my face"

>>33423484
>t. My sex life

>>33425957
I cannot disagree with your assessment other than stating I don't want my face raped

sage

off topic

>>33423523
Dry firing is only bad for rimfire weapons. If it's a concern, buy snapcaps

>>33423821
>they think muscles hold memories
Smartass little kid.

>>33426032
Hmm? We are in full agreement sir, I wreck A-Zooms like I'm paid to do it.

>>33423500
he downed him first shot while caught off guard, he deserves credit

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>>33426032
>>33426135

Be honest, /k/, would you draw to contest a robbery if you weren't personally threatened?

I quest that it is worth the legal risks.

>>33425808
Does your voice resemble Gomer Pyle's?

>>33423951
I'm not sure if you're baiting or if you actually don't know. He shot the guy with .380

>>33425918
same

>>33425200
yes it does work that way in some states. CA for example allows castle doctrine for your entire property that is fully enclosed/controlled (a fenced yard but not an unfenced yard) and extends castle doctrines to vehicles you control and places where you are entitled to be (places of employment, a rental property like apartments, et c).

CA also has no duty to retreat and allows you to use "self defense" in the defense of others in immediate danger.

as you mentioned, some states, like CA, also have a provision that prevents you using castle doctrine as a defense to invited guests, even when they become uninvited and refuse to leave - simple trespassing is not considered immediately dangerous enough.

>>33426215
Nope I'm like...nasally...

sage off topic

>>33426370
Specifically PC Section 198.5 includes the home and controlled property attached to the home like an attached garage. Additionally the dude must have broken, is acting unlawfully (to your knowledge), reasonable fear of injury or death, and you didn't provoke the intruder.

it's an affirmative defense as well, and it's always assumed that someone forcing themselves into your home unlawfully while you are there does so with intent to injure you.

likewise there's no provision in the CPC for "shooting in the back" or anything. if the dude suddenly becomes threatening again and is reaching into a waistband, you're 100% good to shoot him in the back for his dumbass move.

likewise CA allows castle doctrine outside the home too and if you need to interceded on behalf of someone else (Good Samaritan protection).

where it's more likely you get in trouble is for things like simple trespass vs felony trespass and enclosed or unenclosed yards.

>>33426259
Funny thing is I have some good strength to weight ratio but stick-mode body makes me a joke lol.

Oh well, I'm chasing the numbers in shooting not the physique, if I continue to get stronger, mitigate more recoil with faster follow up shots and look the same...fuck it.

sage, not on topic

>>33426466
>>33426370
CALCRIM 506

"A defendant is not required to retreat. He or she is entitled to stand his or her ground and defend himself or herself and, if reasonably necessary, to pursue an assailant until the danger of (death/bodily injury/ <insert forcible and atrocious crime>) has passed. This is so even if safety could have been achieved by retreating."

it's very weird, but CA self defense laws and state constitution are pretty good.

>>33423821
>muscle memory doesn't exist
Of course it does. Like, video games and especially fighting games are based around the concept of muscle memory because "proficient practice makes perfect".

>>33426466

thats why you make sure they cant tell their story and if all else fails. officer he was shouting he is getting a weapon from his car. thats why i shot him in the back 15 more times

>>33425872
>>33425957
>>33426215

Not to be a dick, but it's also kinda funny that you can go watch a Larry Vickers video and 9x19 guns fight back and buck more in his DELTA strongman arms than in my lanklet feminine penis tier arms, kek.

>now taking cover from the berating responses

>>33426510
That's a sort of remnant of when we were worth a fuck.

>>33423412
Take a pistol class at a local range?
And practice draws facing a wardrobe mirror (everyone knows you have one faggot), our instructor claimed this got you 'psychologically trained' to stay calm drawing with a person in your sights as well as pointing your handgun at a person. No clue how that bit works in practice.

>>33426233

>implying he isn't wearing custom pants with 4xl pockets

>>33423523
>At the risk of sending /k/ into an angry fervor - this.

Anything you say will do that.

Anytime there's a thread about improving accuracy with a pistol, I do a lengthy post about remastering the basics. I'll always get about 3 angry posts denouncing me as fudd, and suggesting that the OP of the thread just stand even closer to the target while magdumping as fast as humanly possible.

People get offended if your answer is anything other than shoot faster.

>>33425701
Dats his gun kata mang!

>>33423767
Which would very likely be about the time he started smoking pot on a regular basis. It tends to have that effect on juvenile brain development.

>>33425918
Go visit fit senpai. If your eating so much and still not putting on weight, get higher cal food (peanut butter, while milk etc). Find a beginner strength program (ICF, Starting strength, 5x5) and go ham. Seriously, getting fit was the best choice of my life (former fatass)

Rote rehearsal. That's really all there is to it.

>>33423821
>manual laborers

You should probably look into the field. You're not one of the great thinkers of our age.

>>33427926

Aye sir, I just wish there was some kind of balanced approach us didactic types could take.

>>33428057
Grrr I love your enthusiasm but I've gone so far as eating 10 doughnuts every morning and mac & cheese for lunch and dinner and gained NOTHING, it also hurt like crazy (my belly) for the whole month - working out the whole time too.

>>33428131
>Grrr I love your enthusiasm but I've gone so far as eating 10 doughnuts every morning and mac & cheese for lunch and dinner and gained NOTHING, it also hurt like crazy (my belly) for the whole month - working out the whole time too.
First, I guarantee you're exaggerating.
Second, if you are serious about gaining weight you need to eat more IN ADDITION to what you already eat every day for a few weeks. This is why crap like GOMAD is so popular/effective.
Third, if you want to gain weight that isn't just fat you need to lift hard.

>>33428188
I walked in to work with a dozen DD doughnuts for a month straight and ate 10 solid - no joke, the sugar made me sick and crazy for like 2 hours those mornings for a month.

I concede my work out was based of 15 lb weights, but seriously, the whole process was unsustainable.

I wish /k/ would care more about a sub 2.5 second 21 foot bill drill than the width of my arms, but reality is facile aint it.

sage

not topic related enough

>>33428131
>gained NOTHING

That could be a function of genetics and age. If you're under 30, you probably still have a metabolism like a blast furnace. If you come from short wiry stock, you'll never really bulk up. Don't sweat it. Look at Mike Vining. All of the serious career operators are built like that.

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***ESSENTIAL DRYFIRE READING/WATCHING***

https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?7708-Dry-Practice-Misconceptions-Updated-12-04-16

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYVcN_C1Lqw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwJsqp5yQJM

***ESSENTIAL DRYFIRE READING/WATCHING***

>>33428271
99.95% of /k/ has no fucking idea what a Bill Drill is. Which is pretty sad.

>>33428411
>99.95% of /k/ has no fucking idea what a Bill Drill is. Which is pretty sad.

eeesh so true, I wanna find a way to be didactic and get the community involved but I think it's a pipe dream

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>>33428585
>I wanna find a way to be didactic and get the community involved but I think it's a pipe dream

Don't bother. Just keep going on PF, fuck this place for any meaningful discussions on shooting that doesn't involve aliengear or 10mm. Bad enough everyone here thinks a $100 beeping toy is the worst thing you can buy in terms of shooting gear.

See how I linked all those good bits of info here? >>33428411

Nobody will bother opening them because reading is gay

>>33428634
This is our purgatory isn't it, we can never leave because this hatefucked love is the only thing we will ever desire.

Absolutely excellent links.

>>33428634
Lurker here, I read the link and it is pretty good advice. The 'riding the link' thing is dead on, but it does help diagnosis bad technique.

This stuff reminds me of Shooting from Within by Plaxco, while dated and only found in print, it is a good read for shooters.

>>33429010
This expands more on the trigger reset bit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qbCSpcrOsw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7ahDcWjFZI

>>33423412
First you would have to learn how to clear a jammed Glock.

>>33429035
I am not trying to be critical, but in the second video he says 'people know how to reset,' and I agree but there are people that spoil their trigger control and reset from recoil anticipation. The same way dry firing helps eliminate recoil anticipation.

Speaking of which, anyone else ever get taught to shoot a revolver with one or two empty cases in the cylinder to shame yourself into not anticipating recoil?

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>>33426428
So exactly like Gomer Pyle's then?

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THAT'S a quick draw

>>33425952
Inside Out

>>33423523
>>33425808
You could still probably improve slightly, but that's pretty fucking good.

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>>33423821
wow it's almost as if the term isn't literal

>>33423531
The wording is grossly inaccurate. The concept still applies.

>inb4 what is motor learning.

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>the field peons are still replying about sinew spirit

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>>33423531
How the fuck do you think you pick up a pen and put words on paper so easily, you sack of potatoes.

>>33428411
Great information, thanks. I wish there was more discussion of actual shooting on /k/ but the format doesn't really allow it.

>>33425808
Stop practicing your speed firing. You,re making me think guns are gay.

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>>33423412
>that last shot he puts in the motherfucker's ass

>>33430814
Pretty sure this is the same guy who has like a million of these exact same videos on a YouTube account, so I doubt he'll stop anytime soon.

>>33423531
So are you just staring at your keyboard while you carefully type or...?

>>33428271
Your probably feeling sick due to all the sugar. Loading with simple sugars won't help you grow. Just ask fit for some diet advice, they will recommend you add calorie dense foods to your existing diet, but you need to hit your protein goals as well and lift weights.

>>33431066
>no joke, the sugar made me sick
>Your probably feeling sick due to all the sugar.
. . .

>>33431091
I haven't had my coffee yet, kinda slow

>>33430041
It honestly scares me how happy this makes me.

>>33423412
Practice, but don't practice with a loaded gun.

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Woke up this morning as a bonafide, successful (You) farmer it seems...
>it aint me starts playing in the background

>>33430814
>speed firing

kek

Quick follow up shots are not a requirement of the FASTest or a Bill Drill, that said if you're headhunting the scoreboard leaders it's definitely worth getting good at (WIP)

>>33430543
>You could still probably improve slightly

Kind of you m8 and mosdef tons of room to imrove, WebM related, you will note all 6 pieces of .45ACP brass are in the air at the same time.

Things I need to do: Shave a bit off the draw and reload by reducing excessive waste movement, increase grip strength for more fight against the recoil and the hardest one that I'm stuck ion - increase the speed that I can move my trigger finger at.

>>33429301
Close enough i SUPPOSE kek

>>33428634
You are an inspiration and I love knowing you are here to impart knowledge anon.

>>33423412
Freeze at 0:05

That hobo robbing a bank think he slick, he dabbin! :ok_hand: :fire: :100:

>>33430819
That was probably the heart shot.

>>33423412
anyone else notice that his limp wristing caused a failure to feed and he had to rack the slide.

>>33423485
that's actually not what castle doctrine is at all.

basically, castle doctrine does 2 things:

>removes duty to retreat
>puts burden of proof for establishing murder on the prosecution.

if the prosecution can affirmatively prove that you're not in fear of your life, then it's still murder. the only differences is who has the burden of proof -- in public self defense, you have to prove that you didn't commit murder and you're assumed a murderer until you prove that point; in castle cases, the prosecutor has to prove that you did commit murder, and its assumed to be valid self defense until he proves that point.

you're the kind of idiot who gets arrested for executing burglars.

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>>33425170
>>33425200
>>33431344
"The Castle Doctrine is a common law doctrine stating that an individual has no duty to retreat when in his or her home, or “castle,” and may use reasonable force, including deadly force, to defend his or her property, person, or another."
https://www.cga.ct.gov/2012/rpt/2012-R-0172.htm

Fuck off retards.

>>33431114

>It honestly scares me how happy this makes me.

I could unapologetically watch videos of criminals getting killed all day long.

Think of the service people provide to society every time they BTFO one of these assholes. No trial, no paying for them to sit in prison, no danger of repeat offenses after they get released early.

>>33431374
I miss Motorola.

>>33431422

Sure. Until one day your shirt flutters, someone spots your cc and decides that you are a threat and a potential robber. And the guy doesn't like you or your kind anyway. You are shot down on the spot, there is no camera but hey, who needs one since there's not going to be a trial anyway.

Not that I am against armed shop/bank/home robbers being shot dead while robbing. But if you want a world without criminal trials, why aren't you living in some fourth world shithole?

>>33426032
That's not true. Especially on striker fire guns you can damage the breech face with excessive dry firing.

>>33431451

>Until one day your shirt flutters, someone spots your cc and decides that you are a threat and a potential robber. And the guy doesn't like you or your kind anyway. You are shot down on the spot, there is no camera but hey, who needs one since there's not going to be a trial anyway.

Right, as gunning down someone with a holstered weapon is exactly as justified as doing the same to someone who is pointing it at you or someone else. You're aware of how much case law there is on this subject, right? How well-defined the conditions are for justifiable use of lethal force?

Also my shirts don't flutter. Tuck your shit in.

>But if you want a world without criminal trials, why aren't you living in some fourth world shithole?

My lack of giving a shit about trials is reserved for people who brandish deadly weapons in the process of committing a crime. We aren't talking about Judge Dredd here. I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest that when someone in a ski mask walks into a bank, convenience store, etc. and starts pointing guns at people that the world is better served when a lawful citizen or officer defends themselves or others with deadly force than if they allow (or worse yet, are forced to allow) that person to have the run of the place.

>>33426510
>>33427518
One court decision away from being great again. Well, maybe just being okay.

>>33431134
>toddg
that's the nigga who ran his P30 over 90k rounds. Real human bean if you ask me

RIP Todd, may your ghost bless me with recoil control and excessive round counts

>>33428131
>I've been eating carbs to gain weight
Protein, you should be consuming your body weight in protein every day if you want to gain weight. I was king lanklet and after two years I've gained 30 pounds. Protein, caloric density, grow your stomach, eat multiple meals, not just 3, and do strong lifts

>>33423412
>those siberian bunker doors
He never had a chance. It's clear what type of bank he was dealing with at that point.
He better just be glad he didn't trigger an alarm and get all the bluesuits after his ass. They'd have shot his corpse till he was literal jelly.

>>33426466


what's CA law have to do with a bank in Rockford, IL?

>>33425808
you should try to relax and then do it again, like do something and then come back and draw so you don't need to be squared up to the target to draw properly

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>>33423463
>>33423485
>>33423508

>The incident was investigated by the Rockford Police Department and reviewed by the State’s Attorney’s Office and it was determined that the use of deadly force was justified.

http://www.wtsp.com/news/crime/video-security-guard-shoots-suspected-bank-robber/423588540

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>>33423671

the thing that impressed me the most about this is how cool this guy is under pressure. he gives up his wallet, puts his hands up, and waits for the tactically appropriate time to stop the threat.

makes me wonder if me, or most of /k/ would be able to do the same - or if i'd sperg out and draw my weapon at the first sign of a threat and potentially fuck up

>>33423671
Cop or soldier?

>>33426198
>would i draw to contest a robbbery?
Hell yes. I train me and my wife every night about what to do if Jamal breaks down my door.

>rack
>tap
>rat-a-tat-tat

>>33426198

why would i want to go through all that trouble with follow-ups with cops and shit just so i can kill a dude? unlike what seems to be most of /k/, i don't fantasize about killing people

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>>33431254

I did see that at about 0:10

But given that he clears the failure (while appearing to keep his eyes on his target) and proceeds to issue the coup de grace through the dindu's back i think I can forgive it

>>33426141
>he downed him first shot while caught off guard,

yeah exactly, luck.

>>33431737
Cop

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I'll just leave this here.

>>33423463
Robber was still armed and inside the building, definitely still posed a legitimate threat

>>33431451
Nice whataboutism my dude. Gotta remind these white fascist neonazis about that slippery slope huh?

>>33429173
>Speaking of which, anyone else ever get taught to shoot a revolver with one or two empty cases in the cylinder to shame yourself into not anticipating recoil?

That's how I cured my flinching problem when I first got my Redhawk. It's also a good diagnostic tool. Everybody should try it periodically, just to see what errors have crept into their form.

>>33425918

Do more reps, I can tell by the way you post that you are not trying hard enough and stop using emoticons in 4chan. That's what images are for.

>>33428411
>ESSENTIAL
>Some cringe-worthy Youtuber's conflated opinions
wew lad

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>>33423821

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>>33434480
I am sorry about that, I have crippling autism.

>mfw trying to not upset /k/

>>33423523
IF this is supposed to be a 1v1 sim, you better hope you got them with the first clip. During the 2 sec clip reload your body remains fixed (and wide) in space allowing your enemy to take you down. Otherwise your form is good. Nice vid.

>>33423671
>>33431737
>Cop or soldier?
Cop. He shot the guy not facing him first

>>33423687
you already do that

>>33435392
>IF this is supposed to be a 1v1 sim

It's the F.A.S.T. (Fundamentals, Accuracy & Speed Test) it's like a benchmark to track your shooting progression, it's not a drill (The designer of it really emphasized that). It's supposed to be shot "cold" as in you do it 3 times in a row as the first thing at the range.

The first two rounds go to a 3"x5" ocular cavity then after the slidelock reload the next 4 go into a *' circle that represents the thoracic cavity. It's extremely punishing, missing the head adds 2 seconds per miss and missing the thoracic add 1 second per miss.

Under 5 seconds is "Expert"
Under 7 seconds is "Advanced"
Under 10 seconds is "Intermediate"

Anything above is Novice/Beginner

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>>33425248
>Shad

>>33423671

THAT"S FUCKED UP MANZ!
MICROPENIS NRA FAGZ!
WAIT FOR THE COPZ AND CORONERZ!

>>33433031
Alright that's respectably impressive

>>33436593
Understatement of the century, that kind of accuracy while running is basically unequaled by anyone.

I can't think of a single firearms celeb that could touch that kind of work.

it's really more of cover VS no cover

guess who won?

>>33436728
nigga dem walls were concealment not cover

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>>33424206
>>33425531

>>33426198
Yeah, but mostly because there's enough cases of people getting shot just for being there or trying to flee.

>>33423821
I have worked in a factory so long I do my job practically on autopilot. You are full of shit.

>>33433031
Yeah I fucking hate you.

>>33431344
>in public self defense, you have to prove that you didn't commit murder and you're assumed a murderer until you prove that point
What happened to "innocent until proven guilty"?

>>33423523
That has been Forwarded.

>>33433031
>>33436593
>>33436604

Yeah... with a camera you can run this drill 5000 times until you get the footage you want. clearly what this idiot did

>>33437329
I'd literally go homosex for him if his dick could gift me his shooting powers

>>33437372
Nah he's not full egomaniac autist like us, he shows his fails too, after about 10 seconds of hitting every shot he drops a few here and there.

>>33423928
I bet you can make a VR system if you hotwire a bunch of gopros together in a frame and use that to see every angle. maybe make a motion capture suit and program around a pro doing draws.

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>>33437372
>>33437381

>>33437449
I would watch that shit, but I'm turbo autist mode

>>33437870
would have the problem of someone accidently a camera and it being rather bulky/ only good for static drills.

>>33433031
>Not dropping prone while magdumping

Pleb.

>>33437378
guy is on a smooth floor with no micro terrain, not saying that takes the skill out of it but its a lot easier than doing the same thing outdoors

>>33438839
Sure you aren't wrong, but the level of skill displayed is unprecedented and it's kind of silly to nit pick unless there's some other contestant to compare against - there isn't. So until another human being can shoot like that all we can do is theory craft and play what if.

>>33437493
>>33433031
dude that looks fun as hell, I need to find a place I can do that

>>33438917
earn such gains that a commercial range literally kisses your toes and asks you to train in their facility.

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>>33434904
I respect you clearing your firearm even during the disappointment of your fuckup. Keep practicing senpai.

>>33439224
thx famppai I was hopping you lot could watch and get a light kek or 2

and yessir safety first

I'm looking to get a gun for self defense. How long does training last normally?

>>33439987
>How long does training last normally?

what are you asking? This is moonspeak

>>33440127
A course

>>33440244
usually the weekend to accommodate peoples work schedule, but really it depends on who you take a class from.

>>33426198
what legal risks? a guy waving a gun around in a shop that I'm in is a threat to my life. Any state that permits concealed carry at the very least lets you defend your life if there's an imminent risk.

Have a listen to that little asian vietnam vet on youtube nostressmike or something about his concealed carry use. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eg5Gaza6OOw

admittedly in this example he waited until the pistol was turning towards him before he shot, but the point is despite the fact he was just a bystander the armed robber eventually turned his pistol on him. You sound like you can't legally shoot someone unless there's a fucking bullet steaming towards you. Be realistic ffs.

>>33438917
>This
Standing in box / lane is boring as fuck and honestly feels like a waste of ammo at times.

Yes it's good to do static shooting to get the fundamentals function test, and to get your bearings,

but those guys who all they do is that type of shooting have never been in a fight before.

>>33437370
As in fast forwarded? Nope but it's encouraging that you might think that..

>>33423412
>that tactical roll

>>33424020
He had less than two seconds to react and actually having to shoot people is not very common in security jobs. It isn't something they do on a weekly basis, especially with the robber staying to give a gunfight with him instead of running away like every other CCTV footage I see.

>>33426198
I'd do it just because I don't want Jamal to have my IDs and cards. But who knows, never happened to me yet.

>>33426198
depends on how risky the "counter ambush" is. If he seems inattentive and not focused on me and I have a nice window of time to draw and a good distance I'd absolutely deer stand a scum bucket.

Take away even a few of those positive variables and I would be a lot less enthusiastic.

>>33445840
UMM racist much? Back to >>>/pol/ with you /k/ is an anti-racist board.

>>33445934
faggot

>>33423412
He nailed that first shot.

>>33423463
No. If the guard went over and shot the guy in the back of the head, that would be illegal.

>>33423412
John Lovell is a god instructor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKoVfDfsPM4

>>33445898
finally somebody with an appropriate answer