Underrated Guns

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>reliable
>accurate
>sturdy
>milspec
>fires 7.5 Swiss

Americans tend to act as the fox in the "sour grapes" thing when they see this rifle being talked about.

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>>33419633
AK96-C

Only a few were made in 1946 as a concept to convert captured C96s into the new 7.62x39 cartridge the soviets had made.

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>>33419633
Swedish Mauser

ar 15

>>33419659
Theyre kawaii guns, I love the feel of pulling the charging handle on them.

Hey, are there any good swiss sites for milsurp uniform/gear collecting? As an american, its hard to find info on even the most basic shit, and our market is really shit outside a few newer things that were recently imported, I've never been able to sauce a first world war tshako cover or gas mask hose for example.

How is the M1 Carbine underrated OP whole books have been written about it and it has a huge collector base, if any thing it's over rated you stupid pole smoker

>>33419678
Some of those pixels look a little off

>>33419708
Autism the post

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These are really light and handy x39 guns, but the outside milling is kind of rough. No one gives them much cred since theyre egyptian, but mine is a surprisingly accurate and reliable rifle, even with wolf.

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For when you absolutely, positively need to CC high brass slugs.

>>33419678
Illegitimate and homosexual.

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This is another really nice shooter. Battle rifle? Maybe not, but on the range its nice. The canadians experience in WWI ruined it for everyone else ever though, kind of like how the AR's reputation after vietnam followed it.

The bolts on rosses are very smooth, I'm a big straight pull autist, and they beat out swiss and austrian rifles.

I really like the gimmick feature of the lever on the side you can hold down to detension the follower so you can just drop rounds in the mag with no issue, then release the lever and you have your pressure holding the rounds in place. Also great triggers.

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Pretty much when this thing came out, everyone should have just threw their AKs away and bought one. For a while, century was making them for absurdly cheap and 4chan fell in love. Then, both the cheap rifles dried up and >its fucking century happened, and everyone forgot about them.

Its so much higher quality manufacturing to an AK, the ceramic finish is not dissimilar to a Sig 550, but they're also really ergonomic rifles, with nifty features like a clip guide and, idk a bho (who would have thought that was useful?), detent pins for field stripping, while still being more accurate and lighter than an AK.

If I had to operate in CQB environments, a CZ58 might be my go-to, just because of how light and pointable they are. And the locking block and striker firing is real fucking neato.

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Paired up with the VZ58, the CZ82/83. The finish quality is dogshit, frankly, they tried some fancy new paint in the 80s that just didn't work out. But under that, is a very comfortable in the hand, almost fully ambi pistol, (everything but slide release) which offers all the bells and whistles of a western gun, like double stack mags, big high contrast sights, and a slide release lever, while retaining eastern pricing and classic CZ75 charm.

My 82 can make multiple hits on a can at 125 yards per magazine, with fucking 30 year old Norinco. I can not do that with any other pistol I own. Call it what you will.

So if you want to be a CZ fanboy, you can pick one up in 380 for 200-something still as a backup to your 75.

>>33419708
>How is the M1 Carbine underrated OP whole books have been written about it and it has a huge collector base, if any thing it's over rated you stupid pole smoker

this, OP is retarded

>>33419633
>Underpowered guns
>What's your favourite underpowered shit stick, /k/?

FTFY

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>>33419678
nice draco, homie

>>33419659
wut. If they were affordable in the US everyone would have one. look at how much based Ian likes them.

definitely not underrated

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>>33419797
Ask a fudd about them and suddenly they turn into .22's that couldn't reach 100ft, then watch them masturbate about how pic related was somehow good.

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>>33419745
WW1 Stuff in general is both sexy and criminally underated being overshadowed by what came a quarter century latter

>>33419717
Well, it's a Swedish design so.

>>33419768
It really pisses me off that they are drying up here in CZ and now they are twice as much as they used to be few years ago.

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>>33419659
>Americans tend to act as the fox in the "sour grapes" thing
bruh..i literally just saw this a few days ago lol

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>>33419633
This little beauty

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I still don't get why there is so much hate for this rifle, I mean its essentially just an improved mauser rifle.
>inb4 "B-b-but they just copied Mauser"
>But is not as good as a Mauser

>>33419745
>better than Swiss K11/K31s?

>>33420505
Wait people hate 03s?

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And older air weapons in general

>>33419745
Favored by snipers throughout the rest of WW1 because of their accuracy too.

>>33420505
Who hates 03s?

>>33419633
>M1 Carbine
my nigga

>>33419783
>tfw missed the new stainless steel CZs because I wasn't 21 yet

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>>33419659
Maybe it's just my area, but I see K31s all the time. I went with a Mauser instead because, at the time, there was ambition abundance of 8mm.

Why would you mall ninja a beautiful
K31?

Also, MAS-49 is way underrated.

>>33420908
That's not a K31 it's a StG57

Over/unders.

Also this >>33419659

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>>33419659

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>>33420505
>MUH LOW NUMBERS
>DID YOU KNOW THE M1917 WAS USED MORE
>I-ITS JUST A BAD MAUSER COPY
>THE SIGHTS SUCK
Fuck'em, the Springfield will always be my first love

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>>33419633
SVU

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at steal at $180 canadian, reliable beater gun that's fun to shoot

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Black Powder muskets

>>33420176
Who gives a shit what fudds think?

>>33420176
>It was heavy and expensive
>therefor it is a bad weapon
I do not understand

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>>33422251
M'comrade

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90% of Walther guns.

If Walther opened their eyes to the consumer demand they could rule the DA/SA market.

>PP Series
>P.38 Series
>P4 Series
>P5 & P5C
>P88 & P88C
>PP Super
>MPL & MPK
>G43 & K43
>WA2000

No one gives Walther the love they deserved.

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my rare desert camo hipoint carbine

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>>33419783
There were some Cz83s made new in 2015, and they do periodical runs with more modern finishes, if you're lucky enough to find one they go for ~450 NIB

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>>33423143
Wrong pic

>>33419659
noguns here, what is this?

>>33419633
>M1 Carbine
>underrated
This nigga serious?

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>>33420908
This is not a K31 anon. This is a Stgw 57.

>>33422307
What is that scope and where can I get one

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>>33423162
See>>33423206

>>33423162
Swiss Stg57 or Pe57 with a fancy handguard

Hi point. Yeah you fucking heard me. Ultra reliable. Can put a whole clip in the black as fast as you can pull the trigger. Reasonably priced. No counter arguments apply.

>>33419724

more like when you absolutely, positively need to blow a muggers head off

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>>33423785
>clip

Kys

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>>33423785

MAS 49/56.

She's my cutey little pied noir girl - who's 100% willing to remove kebab and drink espresso at little cafes.

The C93 from Century Arms is CRIMINALLY underrated.
>a $600 HK93 clone.
>accurate, like .5 moa.
>reliable as fuck.
>eats steel case all day.
>comes with 40rnd mags
>butter smooth recoil, especially with collapse stock.
>THAT HK SLAP.

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>>33423895
>people still fall for the "clip vs magazine" meme

>>33424367
I know this is a hooker post but I might as well bump the thread.

There is a difference, and the difference specifically matters for any gun that has a detachable box magazine that can also be loaded via stripper clip.

>>33423206
I appreciate the engineering and machining that went into that but holy crap is it ugly. Like they purposefully made it ugly as possible for some reason.

>>33424442
Pop a fresh clip in my Glock (forty)
Pull the trigger watch a nigger drop (what)
Round east side (the beast side) when a nigger twists his clips and triggers we let it slide
Because you just don't know (how so) when he's been hitting the 'dro
Or if it's just a troll

>>33424442
except almost no military bolt action rifle and most semiautomatic rifles weren't issued with more than one magazine so your retarded scenario doesn't even make much sense in that regard.

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The Taurus 809c 9mm. Never a misfire. Easy to clean. Impossible to find mags 17 rd mags (looking to 3d printing). Cheap. Reliable. Feels good to hold.

>>33420505
The rifle is nice, but the sights do kind of suck.

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>>33423047
>buying a classic Walther when Maks and their derivatives exist
here's your (You)

>>33424699
Those guns look objectively gross.

>>33420176
M1 Carbines have a huge stigma in the fudd and casual milsurp crowd as being somehow underpowered even though its basically a .357 magnum.

>>33424845
>look
>objectively

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muh raifu

>>33422239
Well... A1 sights did kinda suck though. Not saying I don't like them, but they're harder to use.
The A3 did improve upon it, and provided a longer sight base, thus improving (theoretical) accuracy.

>>33423152
nice s/n
v&

>>33419680

These and 6.5x55 aren't underrated at all.

>>33424661
Regardless of what your imaginary military issues, words mean things, I know it's hard to understand sometimes. Just remember to take you medication.

>>33425013
GL;HF

>>33425097
Name one fucking time someone would shout 'Give me a clip!' and anyone not retarded would hand him a fucking stripper clip and why it would be important distinction to make other than to show your expertise in correcting someone?

This isn't even a PR thing like silencer and suppressor, it's just you fucking commas.

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>>33423785

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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objectively the most underrated gun in existence, phenomenally few people are even aware of its existence despite being a full production firearm used in WWII

>>33419768
I almost bought one of these when I was shopping for AKs and AK variants. Only thing that killed it for me was A) I absolutely HATED the furniture on it and B) The only ones that were available to me when I was shopping around were the ones with the folding wire stocks which were super uncomfortable and kind of wobbly. In the end I settled for a WASR-10, which gets a lot shit, but it's never let me down in terms of reliability.

>>33425129

You're on a board specifically dedicated to discussing guns. So it's generally accepted that you should use the right terms to refer to different components.

It would be like going on /v/ and calling a d-pad the arrow keys. Or something to that effect.

>>33422375
M1 carbine his half the weight of the Thompson and has better ballistics. Shoots farther, hits harder.

>>33422251

>underrated

>>33420505
Wait, who hates the 1903?

>>33424629
>ugly
How dare you

>>33425377
The M1 Carbine and Thompson had different roles and purposes though. It's like comparing the Garand to the BAR

>>33424699
Mmm, I love Maks.

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>>33419633
CZ gets a lot of hate, and their firearms are criminally underrated.

I've never seen another Cz 75 at my local range.
It's all Glocks and M&Ps

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>>33419633
>What's your favorite underrated gun, /k/?

I don't understand why more prople don't buy Pic related.
It's nicer than any p226 or 229 and is around the same price

>>33426705
It doesn't look as good as some Sig's or CZs imo

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>>33424352
>C93 from Century Arms

>>33424352
Too bad spare magazines are $60+

>>33426566
CZ surged in popularity over the last few years. SP-01 is out of stock everywhere locally here. CZ and clones have always been super popular in competitions.

>>33426877
ProMags are like 20+ but require Dremel work.

>>33423047
the only thing I hate is that wire stock. give it a sliding MP5-A4 stock and it's tits

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>>33426746
>It doesn't look as good as some Sig's or CZs imo
Are you blind?
A Sphinx makes my dick hard.

>>33427609
It would not be hard to modernize it at all.

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>>33420240
>
> 3rd magazine
> from the country that invented metrics

>>33424946
Ahh the B.A.R., I remember the first time I picked one up in MOH FRONTLINE

>>33420908
What area, if you don't mind my asking? because I can't find shit in mine, central NC anon here.

>>33426705
>I don't understand why more prople don't buy Pic related.

Maybe the $3000+ price tag is a bit of a turn off?