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Ever since the election I've had 5 of my liberal friends asking me for advice on firearms for self-defense and home-defense. 3 of them already bought their firearms (Mossy, Taurus Judge and a Sig Sauer p226).

1 is gay, one belong to minority and one is just afraid of the direction the country is heading. I think it's very positive that we get new people interested, and most likely my 5 friends can influence their friends and firearm ownership becomes less partistan and more normalized.

Have anyone else noticed an increase in firearm-interested liberals lately?

PS. Fuck off /pol/.
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Well, I always have been interested in guns. My parents weren't so into them and are pretty hard core libs. As of late, my dad bought a Glock 19 for protection seeing the whole political spectrum and in fear of crime.

Honestly, I see an interest few and far between. All I say is IDC what or who you are, if you're legal and level headed, exercise your right.
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Yeah, that's a thing. Best that will come of it is a new generation of fudds though.
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>>33409551
Meh. A fudd is better than a gun grabber.
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>>33409551
Generation Millennial Fudd
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>>33409551
considering the definition of fascist these days seems to be, "disagrees with me" this seems like a bad thing. the last thing you need is uneducated and afraid people shooting anyone who looks at them funny
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>>33409537
>Have anyone else noticed an increase in firearm-interested liberals lately?

Liberals cry about "muh rights" when they don't have power, then forget all about that when they do have it and want to put their boot on the neck of their enemies. That's how Berkeley went from pro-free speech riots to anti-free speech riots in the space of 50 years.

So no, fuck those guys.

>PS. Fuck off /pol/.

Don't think so.
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>>33409551
I see nothing wrong with that. I hope he creates a nice militia.
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>>33409537
>Have anyone else noticed an increase in firearm-interested liberals lately?
Only in the context of friends finding out I own guns, like them a lot, and spend most of my disposable income on them, then promptly cutting me out of their life when they find out I didn't vote for Hillary (voted le weed man) and thus consider my priorities to be "guns over our right to LIFE".

Since then, I've noticed a lot more liberals are putting people they meet, including myself, to the "sniff test," and if we don't pass we're the "enemy," regardless of who we are outside our interests.

>mfw I hear liberals talk about how scared they are of violent alt-righters
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>>33409559

Nope, a traitor is worse than an enemy.
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>>33409596
>caring about Berkeley
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>>33409606
until he decides all republicans are bourgeois and shoots up a convention
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>>33409620
You know you sound just like the gun grabbers, right? What part of shall not be infringed don't you understand?
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>>33409632
the part where you let retards have guns. it just baffles me. it's like you don't understand that the only reason you had a war of independence so a bunch of rich guys could pay less tax. you worship a constitution drafted by men who started a war that killed 600000 to avoid tax
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>>33409559
A considerable amount of fudds are basically gungrabbers.
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>>33409537

The worst thing to ever happen to guns rights was to make it a partisan issue.

Every single American should be in favor of gun rights and gun ownership. So if some liberals wake up and realize what the second amendment is for (protection of liberty) then good.
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>>33409660
You are a disgraceful bootlicker. Go back to England if you think it's that meaningless. Oh, wait, you live in Canada, don't you?
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>>33409537
>Liberals claim gun owners are paranoid and the government isn't coming after them
>Trump gets elected
>Trump will kill us!
>he's literally Hitler
>we need guns to defend out freedom

I can't handle the irony
It's overwhelming
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>>33409676
>>33409676
>Every single American should be in favor of gun rights and gun ownership.

And if I had wheels, I'd be a wagon.
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>>33409684
I guess that wall Street cock is stuffed so far down your throat you don't even taste it anymore.
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My political position has been that of a responsible anarchist since about 1978, and have carried a pistol and enjoyed shooting guns most of my life. Is there a contradiction there? Not feeling it, sorry. I've never understood how 'conservatives' can't even apprehend the irony of their own political movement's name. What the hell is conservative about a mindset which advocates for over-consumption with reckless disregard for future generations? If anyone's conservative it's 'liberals' but then there's that old irony again... as liberals don't really understand liberty, nor even really individual responsibility from which true liberty derives. Anyway, fuck the police or whatever, I like shooting, it's fun.
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>>33409610
Fucking this. It's a wreck, Desu2BHonest.

>Have cool black, gay, liberal friend, and we hang out all the time
>He doesn't know I'm a "4chan Conservative" and I try not to bring up politics
>2016 comes around, and his political personality grows with every passing day
>He gets more and more suspicious of me because guns, and...and not caring about Black Lives Matter, and...uh...Lmao Hillary!
>Tell him that people can have different political opinions and still be friends
>He posts on Facebook literally hours later about how people with different political stances can be friends, but he just can't be friends with neo-nazis
>I realize he unfriended me
>He doesn't want to play vidyas or go to the gym with me anymore
>Find him with a bunch of other liberal friends in a restaurant we both frequent
>Say "hey, what's up?" and wave to him
>He literally just rolls his eyes at me
>Even the other liberal friends can sense he's being a huge asshole
>Sit with them anyways, because they're all mutual friends, and if he wants to be a bitch about it, so be it
>He keeps asking me about politics like "So, what did you think about Trump being elected?" and shit
>I get fed up and tell him I don't give a damn (because I really, for the life of me, didn't give a fuck either way about Trump becoming president), and then I tell him I'm going somewhere else to eat
>Walking out the door, and he's talking shit to me behind my back about how I'm a neo-nazi and I don't care about minorities or some shit, even though I am a minority (Korean)
>Actually pretty pissed, because we used to be such good friends

Why is progressivism such a shit ideology, anons? Literally the laughing stock of politics/history/social studies/anthropology/everything.
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>>33409797
>>>/pol/
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I can't wait for gun companies to try marketing to the easily offended demographics. Shirtless guys with leather pants modeling long slide Glocks or 9inch barrels coming back for wheel guns. Somebody (probably Taurus but Keltec has a shot) will try for a "less phallic" design. Some different color inserts and grip panels to fit whatever gender you feel like today being included in the box.
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>>33409797
fuck off /pol/
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>>33409610

You're welcome with us Trump Warriors, bro.
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>>33409797

Because it's actually a cult, hence the incredibly rigid behavior pattern.
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>liberal friend
>wants a gun because omg trump
>realizes that gee i'm depressed i probably shouldn't get a gun
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>>33409837
>>33409823

the boy shares a story about losing a friend. And ya kill him.
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>>33409797
>blacks and Koreans not getting along
Well, slap my ass and call me 1992.
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>>33409537
Hillary supporters and Bernie-cucks actually think Trump is the next Hitler, so good for them for doing the right thing and arming themselves.
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>>33409537
Us: "We want guns to defend ourselves in case the government tries to oppress us"
Libs: "haha that's totally ridiculous, no way that'll happen!"
*a government liberals don't like is elected*
Libs: "um yeah we want guns now"

top lel m8
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>armed liberals

lol just enemies with firearms
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I'd say fuck them. They didn't care about gun rights before, I wouldn't indulge them now.

They'll turn on you the second the circumstances changes slightly in their favor.

Don't forget, these gun grabbing liberal gun owners will be the first to say on TV, social media and everywhere else:
"I'm a gun owner and even I think we don't need anymore than 5 shot bolt action rifles"

Tread very carefully ameribros
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>>33410066
>"I'm a gun owner and even I think we don't need anymore than 5 shot bolt action rifles"
Admittedly, there is something about the imagery of thousands of patriots storming the steps of Congress with bayonets fixed to their M1917s and Springfields that gets me incredibly hard,
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>>33410066
Fuuuuck, I legitimately hadn't considered the whole "I'm a gun owner and even I think blah blah blah" platform. What a nightmare to even think about.
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>>33409537
>make /pol/ bait thread on /k/
>expecting /pol/ to stay out
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>>33409551
>Not advocating for mindless, directionless violence
>An """"Anti-fascist militia""""" literal call to arms for an identity politics demographic
>"...ignored, doing so could hasten our demise"

Give this person a Glock.
Explosives will do their job a LOT better.
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>>33409797
>homo is being a drama queen
Big surprise
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Thank god.
Im tired of these liberal pussy riots. Pepper spray, punches, bricks. The fuck, soccer riots are more destructive.

Also gays wanting to be armed isnt new, its a sexual orientation not a political one. Though most conservative gays are the quiet majority and you probably wouldnt know their gay at first.
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>>33409590
So basically like rednecks owning guns
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As a leftist who is a minority and likes guns I have noticed the increase in libtard gun owners and it's a good thing they don't see it as a evil force bent on world destruction they see it more as protection and well fun to shoot
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Lettie here, got into funs about a month ago, third one is arriving tomorrow

Can't wait to dye all the banana mags :^)
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It's pretty ironic, but at the same time it is rather a good thing : it will make them more tolerant towards gun owners and maybe even teach them that with freedom comes responsibility.
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>>33409537
Seen the Gay pride parade in Columbus. Concealed carry is going to be problem...
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>>33410182
I'm of the opinion that guns are cool and good and fun but also gun legislation isn't inherently bad as long as the people in charge of it are actually knowledgeable and not clueless liberals and also that most right wingers deserve to die.
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>>33410194
>gun legislation isn't inherently bad as long as the people in charge of it are actually knowledgeable

Either you're ignorant of the octogenarian history of gun control or you're just hopelessly naive..
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>>33410255
Nope, I just think Switzerland's gun culture and legislation is ideal
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>>33409537
Dont care. Liberals like to act on their feelings and whatever feels good at the time. If you really supported firearms ownership, you would probably defend the 2nd Admendment to the end, but I bet you'll change your tund the moment things cool down and you FEEL safe again.
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>>33410272
What's all this talk about liberals?
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>>33410281
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>>33410344
Not a communist, commieposting is just really fun

Not a liberal either

Sure as fuck not a conservative
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Wow there sure are a lot of anti-2a gun grabbers in this thread. What part of "shall not be infringed" is hard for you to understand? Its not guns for everyone so long as they agree with my particular political philosophy at the moment.

If you're such a shitty shot that you're worried about a purple haired transfat gatting you for voting republican, git gud fgt
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> starts thread with political talk
> b-btw d-don't bother responding /pol/
cancer
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>>33410915
t.
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>>33410926

That shirt is funny but

>memeing irl

did nobody learn from Scarsella and Co? Concealing your power level used to be a thing around here
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>>33410194
terrible bait
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>>33409610
>, then promptly cutting me out of their life when they find out I didn't vote for Hillary (voted le weed man)

>mfw someone told me it's white privilege to vote for a third party
>mfw I voted for a third party and I'm asian
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>>33409537
>be liberal faggot and actual faggot
>enjoy guns
>best friend is a super patriotic Trump supporter
>still remain friends despite political differences
>sperg out with each other about guns

feels good man
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>>33409537
It's because politics actually effect us. Conservatives have the luxury to play politics like a game, rooting for the side they are most familiar with. Generally leftists have more at stake. They are loosing something when a Republican gets in office, their world suffers.

Since Trump took office there has been an empowerment among hate groups. There have also been a greenlight for harsher profiling and incentivized police violence, especially in border cities. Programs that disparaged communities depend on to keep their economy alive are being gutted. You're entire political ideology consists of muh guns and muh values, while the other side is worrying about having access to food, healthcare and education. Thank god the left is finally starting to separate from neoliberal democrats.
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>>33413071
Anyone who didn't vote third party this election is a shitty human.
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They're not arming because they've seen the light on the 2nd Amendment. They are arming to kill anyone who disagrees with them, after which they will cheerfully grind the evil things up for scrap.
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>>33409537
Tell them to get a .22 rifle.

Seriously, think of what terrible advice this is. They're the type where they'll only get one gun and feel safer so they won't keep buying guns, hell they felt safe with zero last year. This ensures that if shit goes down they'll only have a cucked .22 to fight back with. They'll also see how expensive and hard to find the ammo is, so they won't stock up. It may also lead to them becoming redpilled, because they'll be asking themselves why ammo is so hard to find and the answer is because of fucking Obama. .22s are also not very intimidating and won't give them PTSD. It's also scientifically proven that shooting raises testosterone levels, and the root of their cucked beliefs is low testosterone.
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If libs think people like muslims should be part of our society they will have a real hard time pulling the trigger on anyone.
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>>33409537
Fuck off leftishit.
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>>33410194
Kill yourself dumb fuck. Leftist parties worldwide heavily support gun control.

>>33410265
Then you should know it's left wing parties who are heavily in favor of much stricter gun control in Switzerland.

>Left-wing parties (SP, Greens, CSP) and the GLP are mostly in favour of the proposal, with right-wing parties (SVP, FDP, CVP, BDP) opposed.

Pro-gun rights are a right-wing position. Your shitty ideology can only come about through authoritarianism. Catch a stick to the head filthy commie fuck. /k/ is pro-private business and private property.
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>>33409823
>>33409837
Butthurt cucks. Go to bed.
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>>33413478
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_gun_control_referendum,_2011

Leftists are the greatest gun grabbers in history. Unlike Hitler who actually greatly loosened gun control for most German citizens, the USSR, Cuba, Maoist China, Tito's Yugoslavia, NK, and Vietnam all have or had draconian gun control.
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>>33413490
>be american who is asian
>living in california
>asian family freaking out over thanksgiving
>"trump's going to let the KKK loose on us minorities"
>"trump's going to round us up and put us in camps"
>"the police aren't going to protect us"
>point out that they can buy guns to defend themselves
>"omg i did not expect that kind of far left politics from you"

These are the same people that actually think that non-whites can't be racist since racism needs power. They will literally bow to anyone with authority who they align politically with. They still don't know that I'm a gun owner.
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>>33409797
lefties are getting more hateful in reaction to the trump administration and the people that blindly suck trump cock
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>>33410114
>Though most conservative gays are the quiet majority and you probably wouldnt know their gay at first
Pretty off topic but honestly if you don't openly identify as gay, for the purposes of demographics you're not gay. Sexual orientation is a meaningless distinction by all possible metrics and homosexuality exists publicly only as a personified ""culture"".
Who you do or don't fuck has no effect on your life beyond that effect which you allow it to have. So to say that gay conservatives are a silent majority is an oxymoron; homosexuality only exists publicly AS a minority
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>>33413298
This is the most deluded post I've ever seen.

If b8 then 8/8, otherwise seek help.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/SocialistRA/

wew lad

Its a gold mine, you can tell none of them have any guns at all, or if they do its the shittiest cheapest thing you could imagine.

>Yeah I got a scar 17 as my main battle rifle, I was thinking of getting a .22 one for training

>I've put over 8000 rounds through my stamped polytech AK, but I would recomend a mini 14 over it.

>Look at my weapon to fight fascists with
>its a fucking mosin.

This place single handedly killed my interested in slav shit.
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>>33413702
I thought it was actually the only well-thought out reply in the thread.

Elaborate
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>>33413215
minus the actual faggot, this is me and one of my good friends,

feels good man indeed
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>>33413371
>.22
>expensive
Compared to how it was, yeah, but they don't know how much ammo used to cost. They'll just go to their lgs and see "500 whole shots for only 50 bucks? Sweet!".
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>>33409672
What? I might be a fudd, but I don't favor gun grabbers. Mainly on the point of that if they're going to grab one type of gun, they will eventually want to grab them all. Because gun grabbers like to do things by increments, one little step at a time. Until one day they want to take it all.
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>>33414170
>minus the actual faggot
for now
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>>33413422
if that's /r/socialism even leftshits hate that place
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>MFW I'm a Marxist and enjoy/own guns.
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>>33413371

22 has been plentiful and cheap in my area. Can get 500 rounds for less than 20 after taxes. No limit on how many boxes you can get too. Been like that for like 2 yrs now in my area.
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>>33410915
This, honestly.
Guns for everyone or guns for noone. There is no inbetween. There is no 'guns only for white people' or 'guns only for gays/whatever other minority you want to stuff here'. Take the guns from one group and the government is given precedent to take guns from other groups.

I'm tired of this '/k/ has always been authoritarian shitheads' bullshit that the boat /pol/ple are spreading, I want the /k/ that would verbally gut any fucker that suggested taking guns from someone back.
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>>33410349
Then you aren't a person. Are you a gun?
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>>33416441
>being a useful idiot for the Jews
Why?
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>>33413488
THIS
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>>33413307

Anyone who didn't vote for Trump is a shitty human. Take your protest vote and shove it up your cuckhole.
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>>33416598

This. I may hate the fuckers, I may refuse to help them, but they have the same rights I do and I won't take that from them until they try to bash muh fash and I make Trayvons out of them.
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>>33419348
>until they try to bash muh fash

>defending ethnic cleansing as a political platform
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>>33416598

Anyone wanting to grab liberals' guns is a faggot false-flagger. Liberals having guns makes the possibility of liberals trying to use guns more likely, which makes the possibility of conservatives getting to RESPOND with guns more likely. Why would you not want to shoot liberals?
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>>33413307
I didn't vote third party, I gladly voted for trump gladly, not out of any desire for him to be in office but as a fuck you, I live in Colorado so it was always going to Hillary and while I could have voted third party that would not have pissed off half as many boulderites. Wearing a a Maga hat around Boulder is fun.
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>>33410182
It's a double edged sword. It won't be long till they say "I'm a gun owner but I think x should be regulated" when their politicians in power fall into their favor.
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>>33419394

They (and probably you) define anything right of Marx as fascist. Fuck. That. Bullshit.

If someone tries to attack me for being a proud American patriot and supporter of the US President DONALD JOHN TRUMP, I will respond with force. This political violence isn't okay and won't be allowed to continue.
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>>33409537
>arming degenerates

I hope you enjoy when they kick down your door to end the lives of the white working class/producers of society.
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>>33409797
>cool

>black, gay, liberal

pick one
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>>33409537
Honestly seen a lot of liberals a lot more open to guns.
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>>33409537
I fucking wish. A year or two ago I'd have said they'd be willing to learn or at least ask me about them but not since the election didn't go the way they wanted. They're now fully cemented in the "guns are inherently evil and so are the people who own them" way of thinking.
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>>33409797

>being friends with a gay nigger
>surprised when he's a drama queen

I'm just memeing actually one of my childhood friends is just that
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>>33409706
KEK. You nailed it.
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>>33413731
>Not that guy but...
Dude what fucking universe are you typing from?
>Leftists have more to lose.
So that's why there is a swath of land called the "Rust Belt" because evil conservatives closed down all the factories?
>Empowered hate groups.
Name ONE hate crime by a Trump supporter. ONE.
>Police brutality.
You mean how murder rates went up after police stopped patrolling because they were afraid of a dindu nuffin?
>Programs which disenfranchised....
You mean WELFARE? Niggers and spics should not even be able to get welfare.
Holy shit seek professional help, because you have a victim complex.
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>>33419539
I Played that flash game when I was in middle school I think
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>>33409706
its like they never stop projecting
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>>33409828
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>>33409537
Tell those fucking hypocrites to go fuck themselves. They want to ban every gun and call anyone looking to defend themselves from the government "deluded paranoid gun nuts", but suddenly when the government isn't one they like, they feel the need to arm themselves?
Fuck every single one of them, and fuck you for having such people as friends.
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>>33409797

>relaxing around blacks
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>>33409886

Kek. Someone here is either a 30s or 40s fag or knows his shit.
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>>33409746
>gun rights are good until someone I disagree with owns one
Thanks for your input
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>>33409797
>ever being "friends" with a literal nigger faggot.

We all learn somehow I guess.
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>>33420498

>more people becoming pro gun is bad REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Kill yourself. Lefties hate gun culture partly because of faggots like you.
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>>33413488
>sees a "go back to pol" comment
>wigs out and calls the poster a cuck and unable to handle differing opinions
Sorry, people can't seem to notice the irony.
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>>33420543
They are not becoming pro-gun you fucking retard. They still loathe guns and the idea of people with ideas they don't agree with owning guns.
It's just that their whole lives revolve around this permanent double standard.
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Liberals are fucking children, so I don't trust them to have guns, so I dont help them at all. But I dont associate myself with them or work with them so it's easy to avoid the questions.
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>>33410095
No.. it'll be a bubbafied nugget shitstorm of mouth breathing basement dwellers
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>>33420554
>They are not becoming pro-gun you fucking retard
It's a start

>>33420569
>libs are children
So are you -what are you so upset about?
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>>33413309
/thread
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>>33409660
Taxation is theft, long live the free market.
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>>33420593
>Taxation is theft
Go live on some independent island if you don't want to pay taxes. You can't receive government service without also giving something back.
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>>33416441
That's because you fags want guns to create your unattainable fantasy world.
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ITT: A bunch of manchildren that can't handle people that disagree with them, so they mentally and socially shut down like the freewheeling autists they are.

Your moms should have prepared you better for this world.
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>>33420614
>A bunch of manchildren that can't handle people that disagree with them
Because you're so open-minded, right?
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>>33420600
>implying the government should be giving services
The only services should come from merchants of the free market through voluntary transaction.
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>>33420627

I tolerate you, don't I?
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>>33420631
>the army
>the gubment itself
>police forces
>health services
No taxation = no government.
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>>33420631

Shouldn't you be working on a new health care bill, Paul?
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>>33420641
>Implying there should be a government
>implying taxes aren't an Authoritarian Socialist subversion technique to force people into submission until poverty so their regime can never be toppled
Capitalism is the future.
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>>33411013
They only went to jail because they went back a second time to meme some more.

That was their mistake, they got away with it the first day.

Saiga was right.
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>>33420631
Kek. You have no clue why we even have government, do you?
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>>33420655
>>implying taxes aren't an Authoritarian Socialist subversion technique to force people into submission until poverty so their regime can never be toppled
They are not
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>>33420600
What makes you think that we need a government?
What makes you think that life in small communities where everyone volunteers to do some work like paving the roads or security one day a week isn't possible?
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>>33409828
Have you seen the Taurus Spectrum? That shit's already here dude. Thing has soft-touch grips and the slide serrations have been replaced with custom-color gel.
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>>33420647
>implying there should be a healthcare bill
The Socialists have gotten to you too it seems. Day of rope when? Lever gun firing squads and free helicopter rides to Socialist boot-lickers.
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>>33420641

Ssh, he thinks governing can be done without it.
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>>33420665
Not even a single one of the many immense technological achievements of the last 100 years would've been possible if we all lived in small communities without a central government.
Sure it's possible to live this way, if you want everyone to be a field-working peon.
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>>33420655
>capitalism without government
Yeah I don't feel like becoming slaves to megacorporations. Especially without regulations that enforce humane treatment of workers.
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They are progun until they get into power
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>>33420664
That's what the Socialists want you to believe. Look at Socialist countries like North Korea, Cuba, or China, see the prosperity and preservation of land there. Look at the USSR, and the bread lines, lool at the Fascists who forced Socialist collectivism, look at the Nazis who put Jews in the ghettos, all taxed to shit to bring down the Free Market. The market must be free and guns a plenty so that the evils of Socialism do not force further social and moral decay.
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>>33420681
Then become your own corporation feg, life is a hierarchy filled to the brim with competition.
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>>33420554
Well the secret is for liberals in LIBERAL states getting more guns.

In that case when they want to arm up, they find out they can't get the good shit because their fellow liberals banned the 'assault weapons' and such.

I've known like 3 former liberals who got sick of that shit and eventually 'switched sides' to become republicans and ones a diehard trump supporter. One was a former hippy too.

The idea here is that we hijack the liberal fears so they begin to do some of our political dirty work for us and begin to crack the blue coasts. And even convert a few back to gun loving moderates and stuff.
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>>33420665
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>>33420686
Look at all the capitalist countries, they're all taxed too. Correlation =/= causation, socialist countries had a lot more trouble in them than taxes. Your argument is fear-mongering bullshit "look at all these bad countries with taxes in them, that means taxes must be bad!".
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>>33420688

Oh god it's a real life Objectivist. How's junior year treating you? Do you know who you're asking to Prom yet?
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>>33420688
>Then become your own corporation feg
Easy shit to do. It's not like Apple or Nintendo will create their own police states after the anarchiccyberapocalypse.
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>>33420665

>Breaking 300 million people into small volunteer only communities

Economies of scale, friend. Governing benefits from it just as the free market does.

This might work fine for a town of 800...Mmmaaybe. Getting 4 million to cooperate on a volunteer basis-- How do you do that without building a system of governance?
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>>33420612
You cucks want guns so you can cling desperately to your subordinate position and the handful of crumbs you've been given by the upper classes.

I bet you're the kind of motherfucker to let your boss fuck your wife so you can keep your job.
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>>33420699
The Capitalist countries you refer to have been poisoned by the ills of Socialism, and may be lost until the free market rises to save them. Both Fascists and Nazis created taxed welfare states, Chicago is going through the same thing but the Socialists have lulled minorities into cooperation. It's evident the Authoritarian left seeks to destroy real progress through the veneer of the state being a benefactor with the ultimate goal of global Socialism perpetually forcing poverty and inciting struggle for subversion and control.
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>>33420705
>>33420707
Socialist excuse making I see, you'll be among the first to perish.
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>>33420726
Not socialist, just being realistic.
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>>33420724
You're too far up the redpill, fucking read your own nonsense for a second. There's no basis for any of this.
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>>33409672
I've met them.
>Bolt action shooting is an art!
>No need for semi auto! That's for killing kids!
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>>33420724

You wouldn't know what socialism is if a fire department was built in your neighborhood.
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>>33420711
>da reech
>da reech da reech da reech!
>btw we think we can overthrow the government and convince everyone to live without a government, money, and rewrite human nature to dispel social hierarchy altogether. What could go wrong?
>USSR? They were state Socialists who twisted Communist thinking.
>North Korea? Same thing.
>Vietnam? Same thing.
>Cuba? Same thing.
>Laos? Same thing.
>Makhnovia? ERRYONE CHIETED
>Andalusia and Catalonia? ERRYONE CHIETED
>Our goals are perfectly feasible and attainable.
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>>33409559
THE ORIGINAL AND THEREFORE ONLY LEGITIMATE DEFINITION OF FUDD IS A GUN OWNING GUNGRABBER YOU CHILDRAPING DEGENERATE!!!!

SUCK START YOUR GAY FRIENDS JUDGE!!!!
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Had a family of Bernouts tell me to get a gun soon, because "Who knows what Trump is going to do with our country"

Honestly dont know what goes through these peoples minds
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>>33420724
You need to re-evaluate your understanding of political theory.
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>>33420726

I see capitalism is thriving in mom's basememnt
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>>33420773
go outside boy, its everywhere
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>>33420748
>implying USSR, NK, China, 'Nam, and welfare systems aren't/weren't Socialist
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>>33409537
Go to hell liberal commie lover.
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>>33420764
>I don't have an argument
Sorry Bernout, your subversion has no power over me.
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There's a common misconception I always see on these retarded threads that should be on /pol/ instead of /k/

>big-government liberal welfare states are socialist
read any dictionary definition of socialism, here's a few helpful links
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/socialism
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/socialism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism

Notice anything in common between all of these? Democratic/Collective ownership of the means of production. This can be further simplified as worker ownership of farms, factories, restaurants, shops, you name it. In its simplest form, its a world without bosses where workers make all workplace decisions democratically.

Liberals aren't interested in a real change of the status quo. Socialists are, and very specifically the kind of change mentioned above. Your typical liberal is only interested in token social changes to make them feel less bad about their relative economic prosperity compared to the poor people they pretend to care so much about.

>inb4 bernout
Sanders isn't a socialist, at least not anymore, he's a social democrat.
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>>33413298
>loosing
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>>33413309
>MFW Phil is right...
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>>33420790
I don't have to. There's nothing to argue about the fact that you have next to no understanding of what you're talking about.
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>>33420790
>Bernout
I voted for trump you autist. You're fucking delusional.
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>>33420880
That's what people say when they're losing an argument and must invoke aspects of Danth's Law. Authoritarian Socialism is a fast developing and faster reemerging threat only once more narrowly escaped through the election of Trump. Still, there's a long way to go before the free market brings freedom to us from the clutches of Socialism for the world as a whole needs to act.
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>>33420600
I literally can't. Westphalian nation states have claimed 100% of all the dry land on earth.

they have passed the U.N. law of the sea treaty saying anyone in any floating vessel must have a nation states permission to be on the water or they can be summarily killed. literally killed without any questions asked. they can start shooting without even asking who you are.

if I try to live indipendantly of government interference they will literally come kill me for it.

guess what, if you try to live indipendantly of them, they will go kill you too.
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>>33420781

Implying fire departments and prisons aren't.
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>>33420892
You only say that to convince me that you aren't with the Socialists.
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>>33420906
Private ones are just as good, pinko.
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>>33420634
no. you don't. every thread where liberalism is brought up, you try for the whole thread to shout down any opposition and the only thing that will placate you is the silence of your enemies.
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>>33420915

>Private prisons

Don't even.
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>>33420901
I do agree that AS is a poor form of government, but I find your alternative shitty.
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>>33420681
mega corporations cannot exist without government henchmen providing the muscle to enforce their monopolies.

the evil corporations you hate so much literally rely on government power to exist, and all of them backed Hillary except for a couple of casino owners and one tech guy.
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>>33419539
YOU DO NOT EVER LOOK AT A GYPSYS BALLS
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>>33420910
Yes? I don't see how your inability to recognize political allegiances that aren't extremist cartoons is my fault.
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>>33420697
>because without standards, no one will EVER build something to withstand earthquakes.
>rich people will literally live in shanty towns because government will not force them to build a house out of proper construction materials in a manner consistent with modern engineering best practices.
>because literally everyone alive hates quality manufactured things and only the loving hand of government can cause us to spend our money wisely.
your memeball is pretty stupid, desu.
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>>33420920
prisons are inefficient. levy fines against non violent criminals, whip the violent ones, and execute the murderers and rapists.
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>>33420920
Found the Socialist rat.
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>>33420957
Sounds like you only want a change in policy.
>Whip the violent ones
How do you do this without detaining them?
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>>33420950
Are... are you really that dumb?

Anyways, everyone that thinks liberal gun owners just want to be fudds are not completely correct. Based on average liberal consumers of today I would say they would probably buy the most expensive options out there. Or unique at least. You'll probably see a lot of glock owners and tavor owners. Maybe the occasional hipster will buy czs and such.
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>>33410095
>dat filename
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>>33409537
Boomers grew up in a 90% White country. When they die, we will only be 40%. These people you are talking about probably think that is great for them. And guess what? We secured gun rights without them--no... in spite of them. My children's children are going to NEED guns because of them. Liberal, commie, third world, whatever. Fuck them.
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>>33421003

Boomers also took the greatest economic and manufacturing powerhouse the world has ever seenin and ran it into the dirt because they were greedy and lazy and wanted cheap shit.

Boomer die off will be the best thing that happened to this country in a century.
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>>33421019
I can't really blame them. They grew up on television. Very different.
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>>33409746
So you live in Canada, okay.
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>>33409615
Oy Vey, why do they care about free speech?
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>>33409551
proletariat to bear arms to overthrow the bourgeoise? The fuck is this idiot smoking?
I'm left of center and have always loved weapons, a love tempered by a respect for the power of the damn things.
People like this confused dork make leftists and gun-owners look bad, he's advocating arms as a means for dealing with people who disagree with you. There's no politics to armed defence, if there's a threat: put a hole in it.
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>>33421174
don't call yourself a leftist if you aren't anti-capitalist
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>>33413663
What exactaly has Trump done to damn the nation and make you hate him so much? And what in Gary Johson's policy was staunchly better than Trump's?>>33413307
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>>33421188
Another Socialist subversion technique.
>you dare disagree with us but claim to be on the same team? You're not among us if you don't follow what we say!
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>>33421188
i think the worst excesses of capitalism can be balanced by democratic and social forces, people's freedom doesn't have to be terror. Instead of categorising myself to the tenth decimal place i try to go with common sense.
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>>33409938

This.

Fucking pieces of shit who are mentally children.

"BAWW you can't have it! But I must have it!"

I hope there's a HUGE war where people get to kill as many stupid people as they want to. So the blood lust is quenched for the next 50-100 years.
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Why are there so many dirty fucking commies on /k/?
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>>33409537
All my liberal friends are into firearms, but that's nothing new.
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>>33409610
Wait, people dropped you for voting Gary "My last name is penis" Johnson?

Shiiieet. Ive heard of hillshills dropping trumptards and vice versa, but never over a third party
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>>33413692
>not same guy
an interesting thought

Although you may be able to conduct an experiment that measures arousal toward images, thus determining sexuality,

,and thereby finding a metric of sexuality that is not determined by publicity
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>>33421320
Because we like jerkin off to slavshit. Also because our lord and savior Karl Marx told us to arm ourselves.
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>>33421320
Because keeping and bearing arms is the only way for workers to defend themselves from their exploiters.
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>>33419325
>protest vote
this was the best chance in ages for third parties to get traction, and indeed they got way way more votes than usual
also if you take people like this at their word >>33419409, voting for Trump *was* a protest vote
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>>33409610
>then promptly cutting me out of their life when they find out I didn't vote for Hillary (voted le weed man)
was it this guy?
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>>33419325
Anyone who voted for Trump should do the right thing and kill themselves.
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>>33421226
not that guy, but Trump is an asshole
I don't mean he does bad things or has bad opinions, I mean he acts like an asshole
he interrupts people, he calls himself and all his works the greatest in the world with no humility, he insults and mocks people for no better reason than to get a rise out of them, and then claims it was all in their head or he didn't mean that way
he's just abrasive and rude all the time, and people don't like that unless they really dislike whoever it's directed at or they're also abrasive and rude
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I'm not a liberal, but a commie, and I've always loved and had guns.
Most commies love guns, even the sjw "antifa" commies. Liberals are trash.
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>>33409837
>fuck off /pol/
>posts ISIS propaganda
Wew lad, day of the rope when?
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>>33409706
Capped.
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>>33420612
As a libertarian I can say our goals aren't much different.
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>>33422048
that's a part of his political and business strategy, you can't compare public political personas to normal human behavior. Also, clearly, it works for him.
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>>33409938

Thread should've ended here.
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>Get my lefty best friend into funs
>Still manage to stay friends despite me wanting RWDS and him being nearly a commie.
>He said he would gladly ditch his side and fight for me if I got caught in the crosshairs of the leftest agenda.
Swell guy.
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>have only one friend who is liberal
>he hates guns since forever, I've loved then forever
>we respectfully understand each other have different views cause FREEDUMS so we remain buddies
>get out of touch for a while
>he contacts me out of the blue
>would like to know if my offer to take him shooting still stands (I told him this around a decade ago)
>I tell him I'll honor my offer if he takes the route of humility and explains to me how he figured out he was wrong
>he asks me why I'm being an asshole
>tell him because I'm am asshole
>we lol and he tells me how he's realized he doesn't know any thing about guns and would like to be shown the light
>tell him what kind of ammo to buy and where to meet
>the spirit of John Moses browning himself descended from the heavens to hold my friend as he sobbed tears of joy from all the freedom he enjoyed that day

Some of the liberals want guns out of reactionary bullshit, some of them really do want to enjoy being able to be responsible for their own safety.

>force him to suck my dick afterwards because /k/ taught me that's how all range Bros end their shooting sessions
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>>33419539
>you look at my balls, and for that I will kill you
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>>33409537
Guns are a convenient way of separating idiots from their money every time the party in control shifts there is an increase in the number of gun sales because idiots always panic. If Clinton won I guarantee the idiots in the AR general thread would be bitching out about Hilary coming for their guns.
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>>33409537
yes, and tell them to fuck off, we're full. the last thing we need is armed, mentally unstable, emotionally driven liberals giving gun owners a bad name everytime the faggots flip out and draw down on someone for looking at their green hair the wrong way or getting their big mac order messed up
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>>33416441
mfw you are too stupid to realize the marxists took away guns from everyone who wasnt part of their death squads. typical millenial faggot if you ask me
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>>33410349
>I am not anything, so that I won't be called out or be burned by all the bantz
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>>33423199
How fucking retarded are you?
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>>33419407
While I agree that liberals shouldnt be denied guns, they themselves love the mental gymnastics of discriminating who should and shouldn't own guns.
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>>33409537
>be non-binary gendered liberal
>have gun
>not read manual because it was written by the patriarchy
>not listen to basic weapon handling course because it was given by a white cis gendered privileged male
>get triggered by a conservative
>try to shoot him/her/XE/they/them
>shoot my foot instead
"FUCKING GUNS ARE EVIL AND SHOULD BE BANNED"
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>>33410095
M1917s are 6 shots though.
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>>33423333
You know idiots would be panic buy ARs if Hilary won. They do it every time a Democrat wins an election.
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>>33410095
>future battle between the UKIP freedom fighters and the Islamic Caliphate of Great Britain's sharia warriors
>freedom fighters with .303's and bayonets
>volley fire then mele
>officers cutting down saracens with cavalry sabres
>muh dick
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>>33409537
I'd tell them I respect their right to own a firearm but I'm sure as fuck not helping them get one because they're most likely not responsible enough and shouldn't have been trying to take mine and no mocking me for having one the last 8 years.
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>>33423366
>gun-control wasn't part of shillary's platform
Once again, how fucking retarded are you?
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>>33413298
m8 the people with the most to lose this election either didn't vote, or voted for trump (the midwestern blue collar people). A bunch of liberal suburbanites don't have that much at stake with politics
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I'm one. I'm more of a moderate liberal but with a bit of class consciousness thrown in (aka I hate SJWs as much as any sane rational human) I mostly started buying guns because they are cool and I wanted to defend my home, but general election violence (on both sides) played a roll.

>>33409551
if this guy is talking about defending against real live hate crimes I'm all with him, but people these days are throwing around the word "nazi" and "fascist" way too much, which is why it becomes a huge problem for any prospects of a liberal militia. I've thought about doing this myself, getting people who are committed to defending the constitutional rights of everyone regardless of their ethnicity to form a militia, but the problem comes in keeping SJWs out (since they tend to infect any leftist organization like a parasite), while having a wide enough support base to be relevant.
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>>33423483
>The Republicans control both houses of Congress pre and post election

How retarded are you?
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>>33410349
>not a communist, commieposting is just really fun
Yeah right. The only time when that sentence is right is when you're talking about C&C.
>>33420577
>no u
BTFO
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>>33423568
>he spouts only what the MSM says
Nice try CTR
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>>33413298
>Muh Republicans only do evil and represent the desires of 0 people, how do they keep getting elected, the idiots who vote for them have 0 stake or vested interest in their decisions!
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>>33409706
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>>33420762

Lead soon, hopefully.
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>>33423585
>some shit that true on both sides
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>>33423585
>BTFO
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>>33422961
>lefties putting friends before politics

Impressive.
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>>33421561

It's actually quite common. The fucking vitriol against Jill Steinfags, especially, is shocking.
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>>33409797
do you have a cute little sister hyun?

Do you mind a waegokin brother in law?
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>>33423965
>putting friends before politics
b-but I need to stand up for my beliefs! this is a fairytale; n-no real man would fraternize with the enemy!
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>>33423335
>>33419407
>leftists acquire a gun culture
>leftist make it illegal for "bigots" to have guns

Check mate conservatards.
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>>33423536
>if this guy is talking about defending against real live hate crimes I'm all with him
Most hate crimes at this point are hoaxes. Swastikas scrawled everywhere, Jewish cmeteries vandalized, it's all fake.
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>>33424057
This sounds awfully familiar
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>>33409660
>He thinks the problem was the amount of taxes
lel
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>>33424070
...have you spent 5 minutes in /pol/?
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>>33424070
Been to a public restroom?
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>>33423600
Who the hell is MSM?
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>>33413371
>the answer is because of fucking Obama
No, the answer is because of hoarding faggots buying truckloads just to sit on.
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REMINDER

90% of mass shooting have been perpetrated by Dems. Advising libs in defense is likely to create a spazzy weirdo.
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>>33423272
Mfw Marx was anti gun

Tfw I have no face
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>>33424290
see
>>33420529
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>>33424220
If anything most mass shooter like most Americans are, and that is apolitical.
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>>33410349
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>>33413298
How much tap water do you drink, bud?
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>>33424345
Speak English.
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>>33423536
>all forms of nationalism are retarded

I look forward to better men taking your guns and putting them to better use once you are purged.
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>>33420634
Still no stream, buckaroo; get on it
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>>33418710
>>33423312
>>33423585
>>33424378
anons i'm a social democrat who is very distrustful of corporations and pro-regulation while thinking islam and christianity both need to be removed

not everything is so black and white, but yeah conservatives are worse and need to die
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>>33424563
This
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>>33424563
>We can't trust the evil corporations!
>We totally can trust the government to intervene in the economy though!
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>>33409614
I too have read edgy meme comps
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>>33424585
>i genuinely believe corporations have our best interest in heart and don't mainly care about profits or the opinions of shareholders

mmm....boot-dirt...
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>>33424632
>I genuinely believe that corporations are Saturday morning cartoon villains

But saying I don't trust the government doesn't mean I trust corporations, you dullard.
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Black lesbian friend of mine who voted stien wants one.

She recently started living alone now and is afraid of rape or something.

She also thinks her being black and owning a gun will freak out whites.
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>>33424632
You also missed the point of the post, which was that it doesn't make sense to say that people can't be trusted with freedom in markets while holding simultaneously that people can be trusted with the power of the state.
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>>33424654
i trust the government far more than i trust corporations

if you don't you're a tinfoil headed fucking retard 2bh famiglia
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>>33424632
The truth is businesses live and die at the whim and wish of consumers. You don't hate corporations. You demonstrably fucking love them by your own actions. You couldn't go a day without your smartphone, tv, car, netflix, amazon, supermarkets, etc.

What you really hate is corporations in bed with government AKA crony capitalism... as you should.
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>>33424675
LITERALLY the only reason corporations exist is to make money

that's it, that's the only reason

if you trust them to care about you or anything else over profit you are a retard full stop
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>>33424680
where did I say I hate corporations? I said I distrust them, and if you have a brain you'd distrust any corporation as well

not saying to opt out of any and all corporate activities but just to be wary of every single action they take as they'll always have profit in mind over anything else
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>>33424676
You trust the government, eh? I bet you also think Trump is literally Hitler or damn close to it. If you wouldn't trust your political opponents with the power of government, that power should not be held by the government.

>>33424689
That they exist to make money is the point, and part of why I'm less worried about them than the government. If I don't like a corporation, I can choose not to buy from them. That choice doesn't exist for the state.
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>>33424729
>You trust the government, eh? I bet you also think Trump is literally Hitler or damn close to it.

yes, I think hitler is a sack of shit with the intent of moving the overton window further and further right. i don't trust our current government, but I would trust a government that I voted for that has my best interests in mind so long as they have the right track record. that's the thing about government, it changes, its goals change, the people involved change. i don't blindly trust government, but corporations don't change. they will ALWAYS have profit in mind. i trust the government more than i do corporations because government has the capacity to be trustworthy.
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>>33424752
trump** not hitler but hey i could've made a worse mistake :^)
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A tranny I know bought a Glock recently. "She" has previously given me shit for owning guns. Hopefully gun ownership shows some of these libs that guns aren't all scary and evil.
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>>33424752
You talk about government changing ad having the capacity to be trustworthy while expressing your disdain for Trump. Think about that for a moment. Your trust in government is dependent upon having people who are, in your eyes, right thinking, moral, so on and so forth. But clearly that won't always be the case, right? That Trump got in ought to be, to you, evidence of the unreliability of government in terms of having the right people in it. Even more than that, regardless of who is in government, you are obligated to give it your money every April 15. You may hate the policies, but you still have to pay for them.

That is, ultimately, my point. If I don't like a corporation's practices, policies, or products, I can choose not to patronize them. That choice doesn't exist for the state.

Also corporations have an incentive to be perceived as trustworthy as that helps them build a loyal customer base. Human capital and all that.
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>>33424689
Why is that bad?

The primary reason you work and create value for your employer or customers/clients is so that they'll pay you. (can't wait to hear that you actually make a living as some kind of wandering beggar monk)


There are only 2 ways to get money from somebody... provide them with something they're willing to pay for or take it from them by force. Corporations do the first. Governments do the second.

Profit-maximizing is a great thing, because it raises efficiency. Sectors of the economy with high profit margins signals high consumer demand, thus attracting more entrepreneurial activity/competition which satiates that demand and, in the process, brings prices down.
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>>33424805
>You talk about government changing ad having the capacity to be trustworthy while expressing your disdain for Trump. Think about that for a moment. Your trust in government is dependent upon having people who are, in your eyes, right thinking, moral, so on and so forth. But clearly that won't always be the case, right? That Trump got in ought to be, to you, evidence of the unreliability of government in terms of having the right people in it. Even more than that, regardless of who is in government, you are obligated to give it your money every April 15. You may hate the policies, but you still have to pay for them.

I just addressed this. if someone like Jon Huntsman or Tulsi Gabbard were to be elected, I'd trust the government. that's what I just said - government changes and depending on WHO the current government is, that's how much trust I can say I will have for them.

>That is, ultimately, my point. If I don't like a corporation's practices, policies, or products, I can choose not to patronize them. That choice doesn't exist for the state.

you can opt out of directly giving them your money but you can't opt out of the effect they have on the world. lobbying to hurt the rights of workers, the environment, and anything else that gets in the way of them maximizing profits. and yeah they've got the incentive to be PERCEIVED as trustworthy, not to actually do good things. why? profit! look at all those nice and cheerful commercials nestle has. what a great corporation!
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>>33409610
>>33409797
I tell people I wrote in for Jim Webb. Mostly that just confuses people since they haven't heard of them. A few have called me an asshole for not voting for Hillary.
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>>33424855
>I just addressed this. if someone like Jon Huntsman or Tulsi Gabbard were to be elected, I'd trust the government. that's what I just said - government changes and depending on WHO the current government is, that's how much trust I can say I will have for them.

And that metric for trust is foolish. Never mind that most of those who run the bureaucracy of the government are the same regardless of who is in office, and have little incentive to perform well or innovate.

>you can opt out of directly giving them your money but you can't opt out of the effect they have on the world. lobbying to hurt the rights of workers, the environment, and anything else that gets in the way of them maximizing profits.

They probably do all that lobbying because the government having that power makes lobbying a necessity to survive against other firms doing the same.

>and yeah they've got the incentive to be PERCEIVED as trustworthy, not to actually do good things.

See, thing is, you come to be perceived as being trustworthy by actually being trustworthy and treating your customers well. Whodathunk it!
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>>33413298
>It's because politics actually effect us. Conservatives have the luxury to play politics like a game, rooting for the side they are most familiar with. Generally leftists have more at stake.
Is that why Republicans always have more reliable turnout, particularly during midterm elections?
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>>33424915
>And that metric for trust is foolish. Never mind that most of those who run the bureaucracy of the government are the same regardless of who is in office, and have little incentive to perform well or innovate.

this is defeatist and backed by nothing, if you don't like something the government does then vote against it. if you don't have trust in democracy then leave the country.

>They probably do all that lobbying because the government having that power makes lobbying a necessity to survive against other firms doing the same.

what would you suggest? ancapistan? no regulations, letting corporations do whatever they want without having to lobby the government to give them permission? yeah i'd love to be born at the local wendy's hospital only to be killed for violating the NAP by crying and hurting the nurse's ears

>See, thing is, you come to be perceived as being trustworthy by actually being trustworthy and treating your customers well. Whodathunk it!

you think people actually pay attention to what corporations DO? no, to be perceived as trustworthy you just need to provide really really cheap goods and have commercials with nice little acoustic jingles showing happy families enjoying your product.
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>>33424949
>Is that why Republicans always have more reliable turnout, particularly during midterm elections?

this is because decaying old people have nothing better to do with their lives than to vote and make sure their medicare coverage doesn't change
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>>33424563
>>33424578
>samefagging in part of this pathetic attempt to create a false consensus that this board isn't 99% conservative.

David Brock recovering yet?
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>>33424971
you ok anon?
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>>33422048
A lot of people like assholes. I'd say on average, assholes are probably more popular than soft spoken nice people.
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>>33424970
If liberals had more at stake personally, then they'd vote in midterms. They don't. To them politics is just a team sport and they only care about it during the Super Bowl. Voting in midterm elections isn't hard, it takes just as much time as it takes any other year.
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>>33424718
>be wary of every single action they take as they'll always have profit in mind over anything else
That makes them predictable. I don't think having profit as a primary goal is a bad thing, it's just a fact. Governments aren't a known, predictable entity though.
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>>33424952
>this is defeatist and backed by nothing, if you don't like something the government does then vote against it. if you don't have trust in democracy then leave the country.

Because voting has been so effective in getting results for genuine change, right? Again, the fact that Trump got elected ought to show you that voting is no guarantor of good people in government. My general point is that if you wouldn't trust your political opponents with the power you want the state to have, the state shouldn't have that power. Politics is not a game your side will always win, anon. That you obstinately refuse to even address this point of mine is surprising.

>what would you suggest? ancapistan? no regulations, letting corporations do whatever they want without having to lobby the government to give them permission? yeah i'd love to be born at the local wendy's hospital only to be killed for violating the NAP by crying and hurting the nurse's ears

strawmancapistan.jpg

>you think people actually pay attention to what corporations DO?

Yes, people do pay attention to what corporations do. It's why Yelp, Consumer Reports, and a host of other private entities exist to check quality and share information. It's why Enron went out of business as quickly as it did when its malfeasance was made public.

>no, to be perceived as trustworthy you just need to provide really really cheap goods and have commercials with nice little acoustic jingles showing happy families enjoying your product.

Wrong. To be perceived as trustworthy you put out a good product or service at a price people are willing to pay and then back it up. Reputation exists, word of mouth exists and, like I said above, things like Yelp exist. The internet has made information easier to share than ever before. It does not just require "really cheap goods and commercials with nice jingles" to be perceived as a company with good products or services.
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>>33425266
>Because voting has been so effective in getting results for genuine change, right? Again, the fact that Trump got elected ought to show you that voting is no guarantor of good people in government

>being this salty that your shitty globalist agenda got derailed.

Get fucked cuck.
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>>33425342
I support Trump, you silly. I was using Trump as example to the guy I was responding to to prove him and his faith in government wrong by his own standards.
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>>33424563
>social democrat
>fedora
>distrusts corporations but loves mama government
>muh shades of grey hey guys have you heard of a central position yet wow so enlightening
>the people trying to protect their culture are evil and should be removed

I want you to have a gun just so the police shoot you when you sperg out with it.
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>>33425352

Oh, sorry, false alarm.
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>>33425364
No problem dude.
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>>33425353
i'm not a centrist, i'm a leftist, just not a commie

i own multiple guns faggot
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>>33409537

Give them bad advice so they get killed.
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>>33425342
>trump supporter
>posts anime

yup I believe it 2bh
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>>33409559
Regardless of definitions of fudds, 90% of these faggots will just turn in their weapons and go back to sucking gun control politician cock the second "Their Guy" gets in office
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>>33425433
Pretty much this. It's like some perverse form of fair weather patriotism.
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>>33420529
>The proletriat becomes the owners of production
>this means they rule the government
>which they then proceed to disarm those who they are against them and the Burgoise whom they have just conquered
>Followed by the fact that Leninist principles are one of the popular ideologies
>Which advocates the disarming of both parties to "end the cycle of violence"
>Forgetting the fucking fact that private ownership is a big nono in a communist society
Fuck off Commie
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>>33409590
So niggers?
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>>33409537
POWER TO POC
>POWER TO POC
POWER TO POC
>POWER TO POC
POWER TO POC
>POWER TO POC
POWER TO POC
>POWER TO POC
POWER TO POC
>POWER TO POC
POWER TO POC
>POWER TO POC
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>>33410281
>Wanting immigrants to assimilate into their host culture=nazi

This image really shows why communists are not people no matter how "Based" they try to act
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>>33422961
That's a keeper
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>>33425529
who gives a fuck about assimilation as long as they don't cause any problems you redneck fuck

why do you want literally everybody to be the same? multiculturalism is unironically fun as fuck as long as it doesn't impede upon the rights of the people of the country it's in, if they don't commit crime, don't expect the country to change for them, and pay their taxes just like everyone else I say let them all in
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>>33425378

And you're a cuck, don't forget that.
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>>33425384

Looks delicious, I'd chill with him

>trying to shame people for posting anime
>on /k/

Kiddo...
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>>33425466
I'm not even a communist. I just wanted to correct you because you're stupid and wrong.
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>>33425699
this is why the majority of the planet laughs at trump supporters

embarrassing
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>>33425600
>who gives a fuck about assimilation

People who care about the preservation of the greatest culture in the world?

You want different cultures? Then let them stay in their own fucking countries. Not come here to leech off OUR social services and OUR infrastructure that WE were able to build because OUR culture isn't composed of a bunch of desert-dwelling, goat-fucking, SAVAGES.

>multiculturalism is unironically fun as fuck
>lol Sven ignore those latest terrorist attacks let's go eat hummus, it's great being a sheltered college liberal!

Stickman should've thwacked you harder.
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>>33425529
>playing the "hur I don't agree with them so they're not human" card
Children shouldn't be allowed on 4chan.
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>>33425717
And I'm not even that same guy who made that remark but just because he "supported ownership" of a favored group who will eventually get power doesn't means it applies to everyone, faggot
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>>33409537
All I gotta say is they need to train with their guns and get familiar with them if they truly are concerned with their personal safety. Just having a gun is not enough.
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>>33425744
>the greatest culture in the world
Kek. Made me giggle m8
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>You want different cultures? Then let them stay in their own fucking countries. Not come here to leech off OUR social services and OUR infrastructure that WE were able to build because OUR culture isn't composed of a bunch of desert-dwelling, goat-fucking, SAVAGES.
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>>33425728
>majority of the planet

A bunch of Eurocucks butthurt that the free ride is ending matters to you? You must not have much confidence in yourself, to be so reliant on the approval of effete foreigners.

The majority of LEGAL citizens elected Trump. That fact won't change. He's going to be president for eight long, glorious years, the Wall is already going up, we're breaking up more shitskin families and sending the spics home every day, and all you can do is sit on your ass and whine about him being friends with Putin.
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>>33425772

Name a better one.

>>33425790

Why did you post your average Hillary supporter?
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>>33425748

Does the truth trigger you?
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>>33425728
Too bad laughing doesn't count as a vote for Hillary. :^)
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>>33425815
>Name a better one.
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>>33425828
The truth that you're behaving like a brat who can't handle the opinion of others? Not really.
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>>33425842

Anime was only produced after American intervention and American influence on Japan.

Also, Japan is fiercely xenophobic and anti-refugee.
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>>33425842
>t. Weeaboo
Enjoy the police entering your house without a search warrant for owning firearms faggot. Also enjoy your cold case murder be labeled as a suicide
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>>33425865
What does anime have to do with this?
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>>33425863

I keep waiting for some actual argument from you that isn't typical liberal attempts to girlyslap whatever you don't like away, but you just keep at it.

Going "just my opinion, bruh" until you have the power to go "my opinion is the only valid one, bruh, all other opinions go to gulag." is part and parcel of every Communist regime. Enough. Your ideology failed. It killed millions of your own people. It was started by someone who had no idea what conditions for the worker were like but wrote with such a dense and pretentious scrawl that equally pretentious twerps ever since have been seduced by the promise of the authority that represents a cruel father figure in their minds being removed. You are no longer welcome in civilization. Eat jackboot.
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>>33425865
>immediately mentions anime
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I'm just content to watch the republicans fuck themselves trying to govern the country. Its been fairly amusing so far. Trump is going to kick so many of his own voters off of healthcare, and he is eliminating meals on wheels and other programs that a lot of Trumps supporters depend upon.

Watching trump threaten Republicans who don't vote for his healthcare replacement plan, and then have the Koch brothers obliterate Trumps threat with a threat of their own, was pure joy.

This is the best presidency for leftism in america, ever.
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Are these shills or just Fudds poking their heads up? Because no liberal belongs on /k/. Mainstream conservatives only get a pass for not cucking out on the 2A, and even then most of them fail.
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>>33425901
>resorts to ad hominem
>Enough.
Kek

>Your ideology failed.
So did yours, wehraboo. Thanks for the wall of text btw this is cute.
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>>33425801
he has the approval of like 20% of AMERICANS let alone the rest of the civilized world lmao

>The majority of LEGAL citizens elected Trump.
>actually believing this
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>>33425921
>/k/ is an alt-right only board.
Thanks for your toleration of real right-wingers.
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>>33425915
>meals on wheels and other programs that a lot of Trump supporters depend upon

Want to know how to spot a shill, lads? Watch for the same basic talking points being repeated over and over ad nauseam. Meals on wheels is the perfect example. It tested well among focus groups, so they bring it up, ignoring the fact that Trump voters are contemptuous of welfare recipients, even elderly ones, and many don't even know what the program is or would insist a relative should be caring for their nutritional needs instead.

>kicking his own voters off healthcare

You mean the people who bought Obamacare because they were forced to are now going to choose not to have healthcare? Oh no. The horror. You know who really suffers from this? You should, lefty politicians have been whining nonstop about this. Trash-class spics and niggers. Welfare queens and the shameless parasite class. Good. Fuck 'em.
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>>33425945
>if you don't agree, you're a nazi

I don't believe you own any guns. I doubt you could stomach recoil when you're this much of a cucked stereotype of a liberal.

>muh ad hom

Which you started

Tyrone's too good a fellow for you to use as a reaction image.
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>>33425976
>Not a single mention of alt-right in his post
Get the fuck out, /k/ is a mostly libertarian board with a vast array of right, left, and conservative political cultures. Communists, progressivesc, and authoritarians need not apply
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>>33425963
>trusting the polls after the election
>trusting that the one state that gave Clinton that lead, entirely from sanctuary cities, happened entirely as a result of concerned legal citizens wanting to protect their illegal friends from deportation when the head of their state senate brags about half his family being there illegally and state policy blocks any attempt to determine the residency status of a voter and Obama REMINDED people of this before election day.

Here's your $0.02, I hope they let you out of the Nerd Virgin basement to buy some tendies.
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>>33425976

I know you didn't read my post because you're a shill, but please, put some effort into it next time.
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Reminder that any commies on /k/ are LARPing faggots from /leftypol/ and reddit. If they actually voted, they'd know that American liberals make gungrabbing a flagship issue.
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>>33426021
>y-you must not own any guns
I own more than you do, I'm sure. Although I believe you're getting off-topic.
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>>33425993
>ignoring the fact that Trump voters are contemptuous of welfare recipients

Bitch, where were you doing all those Trump rallies were Trump promised not to cut healthcare and make it better for everybody and he received uproarious applause?

Its why Trump was pushing for his healthcare replacement bill. Trumps support base are not conservatives, Trumps base are largely apolitical folks who believed him when he said he would bring back jobs and fix Obamacare.

A lot of them are elderly and middle-aged people, on medicaid.
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>>33426077
I'm not sure you know what shill means.
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>>33426089

Post them, because with this generic line of shilling you've done, I don't believe you own even a single firearm. Where are you from? Somewhere in Soviet Reddit? /leftypol/?

>>33426094
>welfare is healthcare

Leech spotted.

>his healthcare replacement bill

You mean Ryan's Obamacare 2.0. Trump tried to cooperate with him, but the little faggot still managed to hang himself. I wouldn't be surprised if he's replaced soon.
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>>33426026
>/k/ is a mostly libertarian board
Are you new?
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>>33425901
Capitalist here, "communist" and "regime" are mutually exclusive words. Leninism, Stalinism, Trotskyism, Cuban Marxist-Leninism, Juche, and Communism with Chinese Characteristics are all bastardizations of what Marx and Engels envisioned: a free society lacking in a state, money, social hierarchy, private property, and where the workers own the means of production and all resources are shared communally while everyone lives in accordance with necessity. Sounds cool but the above iterations of communism show how exploitable people are into doing some radical's dirty work so that person can turn around and assume autocratic control. While it's ridiculous anyone would ever consider communism as viable, you still gotta know your shit and stop being so childish.
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>>33426109

I'm not sure you know where you are. A board for weapons...while you're advocating an ideology of disarmament and slavery. The fact that you expect to be taken at all seriously exposes you as a foreign influence from the beginning.

Molon labe, cuck.
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>>33426128
>Trump tried to cooperate with him

Trump didn't even know what was in the bill. he just rubber stamps stuff.
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>>33426128
>generic line of shilling
I resent that.
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>>33425963
>approval rating
Argumentum ad populum.
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>>33426138
>Capitalist here, let me just defend communism with humblebragging and say that it's totally never been done right but has to be done wrong on purpose, then say you don't know your shit and call you childish

Straight up Alinskyite subversive tactics.
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>>33426145
>The fact that you expect to be taken at all seriously exposes you as a foreign influence from the beginning.
Because we're all taking your valuable political insight quite seriously.
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>>33426156

Did you get upboats for it in your homeland?
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>>33410926
This guy looks exactly like a guy I went to high school with.
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>>33426192
I get to eat.
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Butts
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>>33426226
Fart
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>>33426190

Do you or do you not vote for politicians who are members of the Democrat party? If yes, you are voting against our constitutional right to bear arms.
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I love how protectionists voted in a guy who has done nothing but enact neo-liberal policies and get into scandals involving his staff being Russian agents. And then getting cucked by the Koch brothers.

/pol/ is getting desperate, you can feel it on their board.
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>>33426243
>Do you or do you not vote for politicians who are members of the Democrat party?
Hell no. I voted for Trump.
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>>33426176
I'm not defending Communism, I'm telling you to get educated before you comment on something. Gulags and regimes aren't inherent to Communism, but rather what happens when someone exploits it because how easily you can exploit it. Meanwhile I said you were childish because the commie was right:
>yew disagrie zo yiu cent liv!!!
Is not mature discussion.
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>>33413601
Blow their mind and point out that they're a majority, and worldwide it's actually whites who are the minority.
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>>33426278
>Gulags and regimes aren't inherent to Communism
Yes, those are Russian concepts.
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>>33426278

Here's a pity (You), I expect you to put a little effort into your next response.
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>>33426268

Fucking nazi GTOF
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>>33426332
His response seemed reasonable and thorough, budmin
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>>33426332
Challenge accepted. (Btw I've never heard of Alinsky until Carson)
The choice is yours to be an adult, and education is the doorway to proper adult discussion. Without it, we are doomed to failure through ignorance and even risk giving the wrong people credibility, like Communists.
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>>33425915
>Trump is going to kick so many of his own voters off of healthcare
Haven't you heard, the Obamacare repeal failed. The only thing that will be taking Obamacare from people now is the natural failure of Obamacare.
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>>33426256
>canadian border fence

Funny thing is, the illegal immigrants from Central and South America that Canada keeps fighting off come over the Canada US border.

You're image literally shows a Canadian Wall, with the Americans paying for it kek.
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>>33424408
bring it on fuckface. This is how we deal with the likes of you

https://youtu.be/RG8XBnlzmaE?t=6m45s

>>33424070
Generally speaking when vandalism happens and the perpetrator does not show their face, claim responsibility or state their motives, it's likely to be a false flag or outside troll operation, but that doesn't mean real hate crimes don't happen. There was that guy that just got arrested for stabbing a random homeless black guy, then there was that indian guy who was shot. The fake ones unfortunately get more media attention because they are orchestrated by trolls who want that attention and the media are fags who don't know shit.
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