MILSURP SMALL ARMS /msa/ Thread

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JUST that nugget?

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>>33406045
yup

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>>33406059
What was special about it?

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>>33406076
Pre war round receiver. I literally have no idea.

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>>33405896
>https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/2013/210#detail
cheap remington lee
>https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/2013/658#detail
Nugget from OP. hammer price, winner has to pay +15% winners fee. = $495

if they used a credit card its over $500 (17,5%)

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>>33405896
>Thinks $500 for a Mosin is big news.

Jesus, I bet pristine Finns are going for 1k now.

>>33405896
>>33406147

>$500 for a nugget
>it's not even a Finn

Fucking why?

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>>33406121
$431?! WTF Is it not import marked or something?

>>33406158
Yeah, but that's a remington. OPs was a standard russian round receiver variant from the mid 30's

>>33406147
There's a nice looking 1889/16 on Gunbroker right now. I'm starting to feel the fever for it...

>>33406179
Yes and the difference is $500 vs $2500.

If you want to talk rare Mosins, there's a 27rv carbine on gunbroker right now. Think it's sitting at $2600.

>>33406197
I'm just saying that round receiver Izhevsk mosins typically go online right now for not more than 400 in great condition.

>paying $500 for that when you can find Finn Mosins on Gunbroker for around $450

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/630794612
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/631072914

Among others. I also see a lot of standard M91/30's in the $200 range.

>>33406174
import mark is clearly visible in the auction photos on the left side of the receiver.

>>33406216
I know, I agree it's pretty high. But I guess the guy really wanted it for some reason. You get in a bidding war and suddenly you spend $200 more than you originally wanted to, because you want to be a winner.

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>>33406269
>MFW got into a bidding war over a hakim and paid 791 shipped out the door.

I feel okay now.

>>33406290
The temptation is hard to fight sometimes
>C'mon, what's $10? You spent more than that on gin yesterday
>You've got him on the ropes, only a fool would pay more than you!
Nowadays I avoid most auctions that don't have Buy It Now for this reason.

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>>33406269
>You get in a bidding war and suddenly you spend $200 more than you originally wanted to, because you want to be a winner.
I've gotten into bidding wars before, but I'm smart enough to stay within my limits. I've only gone about $30 at the most more than I wanted to spend.

The worst is probably my Toyo Kogyo Type 99 long. It sat at no bids starting at $400 and the auction ended. I hated that I couldn't buy it as I didn't have the money. Next week I had the money when it was put back up at $300. I ended up spending $410 for it ;_; $10 more.

>>33406430
it has only happened to me once, and I didn't get as badly taken as OPs buyer, but I did overpay somewhat. The difference is that there were only 70K Hakims ever made, so I'll be able to make up the difference, just by holding onto the gun for one or two years. There were 20-30 million round receiver mosins.

Convince me not to buy a 410 Enfield musket

>>33406669
Buy this instead.
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/631333349

>>33406712
That's a lot more expensive, maybe one day I'll get one.

You like French stuff, why don't you buy it? If you already have one, you could always get another.

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>>33406792
I just bought my 2nd one last week actually. I don't think it's fair for me to have 3 of the same rare gun.

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A few of my slav surps. Have 3 slav pistols and 3 other nuggets not pictured. Please excuse the non surps, but its my best photo

Paid 1400 for the svt 40

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>>33406949
That's a nice looking SVT. I think I paid 1300 for mine.

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MAS is in the mail and I'm too hype

>>33406975
You'll love it. I don't harp on them endlessly just to be a contrarian.

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>>33405896
Just got pic related for less than $400. Bad indoor lighting isn't going it any justice on the fact it looks almost new.

>>33407056
Is it a Finn?

>>33407060
A Tikka, yep.

>>33407075
Nice, but my jelly is gone.

I need a non-Finn'd 91.

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>>33407021
I just hope ammo isn't as big of a pain in the ass to get as 6.5 Jap is

>>33407099
Thanks. Empirearms has some Balkan M91s for sub 300 right now.

>>33407121
7.5 French isn't that hard to find.

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>>33407099
>I need a non-Finn'd 91.
German-captured 8x57IS conversion is what you need.

>>33406045
Something doesnt belong in this pic

How much do Ross mk3's usually cost? they make me moist.

>>33407144
Interesting idea: solder a chunk of Gewehr 88 barrel shroud to a Russian rifle.

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>>33406158
>that Imperial Crest
the only mosin worth having

How much does an intact mum effect the price of Jap WWII rifles?

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Man I really want a M1907/15 Berthier but just havent found one yet, that flush fit just looks sexier than having a mag hanging out.
Do share anons what you think the best looking model of Berthier is.

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>>33407158
>Something doesnt belong in this pic
Yeah, I really don't know how they determine what to put in which lot. Fun fact: that short one's actually an m/24RV carbine for the Finn Civil Guard, but it has a Finnish Army m/27rv carbine stock. In the same auction was an m/27rv, with what was probably this m/24rv's stock.

>>33407197
Like $50 MAX unless rifle is all-matching, complete and correct.

>>33407197
ups from about 250ish without to 500-700 with Chrysanthamum

>>33407121
Na it's not so bad. PPU is like $15 a box and lots of stores online have it. Reloading is even easier since all the components are the same as 308, except brass obviously.

>just ordered a Spanish model 1916 for $135 shipped to me.
>not J&G, but the site says they are beat up, probably have cracks in the stocks, but are complete, not rust buckets, and fully functional

When I saw the price I had to do it. I'd probably kick myself if I passed it up.

>back when I was inna parents house and a poorfag and nuggets were $175 I could have bought one but that would have been a lot of money for me at the time
>now not a poorfag and could easily afford one but every time I consider buying one I talk myself out of it because "ehhhh do I really want to pay that for one when I could buy x?"

>>33407126
He's also got a 1889 for under $1000

Do they take credit cards?

>>33407305
get em while they're cheap anon, because tommorow buba-john will have his sporterized hackjobs all over gunbroker for 500$, and you wont be able to find a regular one for shit

>>33407166
$1200ish, at least in the States.

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>>33407197
Is it just me or are Type 38s with mums more common than Type 99 with mums?

>>33406906
Fair enough, guess I'll just get the musket

>>33407217
Long barrel + 5 shot mag is my fav

Is it safe to dryfire old surplus rifles like Enfields?

I want to practice my trigger pull.

>>33407374
well they made Type 38's from 1906-1945 and 99's from 39-45, but 99s were pushed to the front more often than 38s and likely got destroyed more often while 38s were kept in reserve, possibly explaining how there are more of them floating around

>>33407400
Yes. Dry fire anything but rimfires to your heart's content.

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Heres my 1928 izzy (new bolt ordered btw)

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>>33407143
>>33407121
Weird, I can find 6.5 at my local Cabelas often, I haven't seen 7.5 French since I first bought a gun in that caliber 5 years ago. They had it there BEFORE all the time.

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>>33407217
I need one too desu.
>>33407374
The M16 rifles are more WWII than WWI though.

>>33407462
You will see surplus ammo like that when you dont own a gun in that calibre, but as soon as you buy one ammo will be unfindable. Need to come up a name for this theorem

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>>33407374
>Is it just me or are Type 38s with mums more common than Type 99 with mums?
Strangly enough, I've owned 4 (3 currently) 99s with an intact mum and one that just had a couple chisel marks. Out of the 5 38s (3 currently and one a 44) I've owned only one had the intact mum. It's really hit or miss.

The later you go into the 99s the less likely it seems to have an intact mum though.

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>>33407468
>The M16 rifles are more WWII than WWI though.
So? Also, mine's marked M1907-15, but of course it was upgraded after the war. Long barrels and straight bolts are more aesthetic, not dissing your rifle, that's just my opinion. All berthiers deserve to be loved

What's the deal with the ton of bare actions for various rifles that pop up on gunbroker?

Are they supposed to be starting points for restoration projects or something?

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>>33407480
I've found plenty of surplus 7.5 and 8mm Lebel after all that. It's the new production PPU I haven't seen in forever.
Though neither of them exist in any quantity anymore.

A thought occurs, why doesnt any one create full length military style wood furniture for current production hunting rifles, reverse sporterization (militarization?) so we can watch fudds on fudd forums bitching about people ruining good hunting guns by turning them into military looking guns

>>33407422
Haha ok KID you clearly don't belong in this thread. It's IZHEVSK not "Izzy" time to grow up and be a real collector no one who is anyone uses that slang and I would know I have over 5000 posts on Gunboards.

>>33407422
Forgot to mention i got it a few month ago for $150

>>33407561
>he doesn't know about the rare 1920's izzy (Israeli) mosins

>>33407144
I have an 1893 Turk Mauser arriving soon. I decided to buy more 8mm Mauser guns to justify ordering bulk quantities of ammo.

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>>33407422

>>33407520
Mannlicher stocks exist.
>>33407561
It annoys my autismo too. The first syllable is an EE, not an I.

>>33407323
No clue, haven't bought from him before, but his sites been up at least as long as I've looked up guns online as a teen.

Checkpointcharlies.com has cool shit as well: that's where I got my M91 and I got it next day.

>>33407589
>1893 Turkish Mauser

Original or 30s era refit?

>>33407665
Refit. 1893/30

>>33407677
I've got one too, my first milsurp actually. Neat guns.

>>33407639
Mannlicher stocks could make your rifle look like a Mannlicher or a Turkish Berthier, but what about K98 stocks, 1903 Springfield stocks, ect? You'd also have to put similar looking iron sights to get the full effect

>>33407699
Technically it's a 1940 refit, but it's sold as an 1890's receiver and required no FFL. I picked up a Yugo 8mm Mauser at the same time though.

>>33407520
I've wanted this for years, I wish someone would do this.

>>33407723
I hope you enjoy your new Mausers.

>>33407717
The reason military stocks don't go all the way towards the barrel is so a bayonet can be affixed.

>>33407502
I wonder this too. I'm imagining they must've been shitty sporters or some dink with whole milsurp rifles who's selling them as parts hoping to make more money than selling a complete rifle

Kinda off topic kinda not... How much would a refinished M44 go for? I got it for 150 from a friend with no interest in guns. The blue is strong on some parts and almost completely gone on others. As far as I can tell, all parts are matching except the bolt. 1945 Ishvek marks, and a Good condition stock with a very very small crack in the handgaurd.

>>33407767
Ok, not what I was asking, but I didn't know that, so thanks

>>33407865
Are you trying to flip it? Just hold on to it until the price doubles again.

>>33407882
Im not planning on selling it anytime soon, just wondering how much it might be worth.

>>33407520
Cost vs demand/profit margins. Of course that's changing now as more and more people gain interest in milsurp.
>>33407646
Yes he does....somebody stop me from buying it.

>>33407323
>>33408036
Kroh does takes CCs. He just has a silly method of you emailing half the card # to one e-mail and the other half to the other e-mail.

>>33408036
Do it faggot

>>33408069
I read that once, while looking for C&R dealers, and immediately decided that dealing with him was dangerously retarded.

Nothing about his page or his method of processing sales instills confidence.

>>33408117
He has a paying base that finds that acceptable. I too wish he would get out of the 90s. If I had some $ I'd make a competing site.

>>33406121

idiot noob millenials jacking up prices

>>33408091
Nevermind, it's a carbine. I want a long rifle.

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>>33408223
What's wrong with carbines?
>and Mousquetons

I'm actually pretty annoyed that the English language got away from using the term Mousqueton and went to the lame "short rifle."

>>33408333
They don't look as elegant. I love long rifles. Besides my wife and I have "understanding" that all carbines are hers, because she's tiny and they fit her better.

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>>33408364
>They don't look as elegant.
I usually find it the opposite.
>Besides my wife and I have "understanding" that all carbines are hers, because she's tiny and they fit her better.
But they also have more recoil.

>one day I'll fix this damn thing up

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>>33408390
Recoil isn't a big deal, because I have trained her how to shoulder it properly. But she's 4'9. She can't hold long arms easily. Except for my Lebel for some reason.

I wish we called carbines dragoon rifles.

>>33406290
I reeeeally want a Hakim to go with my Rasheed, you should let me carry the burden of your guilt for you.

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There's a couple SVT 40s for sale in my neck of the woods but I can't afford to pony up the cash... Thinking of offering up my G1 FAL as a trade... Talk me in or out of it, /k/

Pic related

>>33408546
You can always buy another FAL. But a SVT....those are only gonna get rarer.

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>>33408563
>those are only gonna get rarer.
nnnn...not if emperor Trump fixed the import ban!

>>33407422
Gee, I didn't know Israel was making Mosin Nagants back in 1928

>>33408546
>trading an FAL for an SVT-40

You don't deserve to own that rifle

>>33408663
Yes, and when I win the Mega Millions, I'll buy everyone in the milsurp thread a Mosin.

>>33408767
Make it an M39. its the only mosin flavor I'm missing

>>33406949
Nice vepr, is that 308?

>>33408786
So you have a 1907 carbine then?

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I really really really, really..really

need to take a new pic

>>33408786
>>33408799
Or a M91/98/24 25 or 26?

>>33406164
Because it's not 2008 anymore. You'd be lucky to find any Mosin under $250 now, and nice ones are easily over $300.

>>33408767
Good man.

I would just buy a bunch of maxim guns and invite /k/ over for a full auto autism fest

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>>33408799
Of course not. I don't trade in unicorns.

I kinda lumped them in with every carbine. I didn't really want 5 different mosin carbines, so the m39 would take the spot of all of them except the m44

>>33407262
>When I saw the price I had to do it. I'd probably kick myself if I passed it up.
$135? Are you sure you didn't get a "gunsmith special"?

>>33408826
>2008 the time of $80 nuggets at Big 5
>nuggets are 300 bucks minimum now
I bought mine out of a dudes trunk for $150 2 years ago. I might be bad now but there are sorta kinda deals out there you just gotta look DEEP

>>33408833
There's actually a big piece of land I know of (1700ish acres) I'd buy and use to hot Nugget Fests.

>>33407520
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/09/27/ruger-1022-mannlicher-trim/

>>33408840
>Doesn't deal in unicorns
Nothing is a unicorn if you hunt daily.

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>>33408843
All those ex samco 1916s are gunsmith specials. They're rusted to shit and may have broken parts. Mine had a clipped firing pin.

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>>33407520
im more interested in a well stocked and reputable source of stocks and wood for milsurp so people can unfuck enfileds and duffle cut arisakas

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>>33408882
Actually poor example, that was post rust.

>>33408882
>All those ex samco 1916s are gunsmith specials. They're rusted to shit and may have broken parts. Mine had a clipped firing pin.
Mine's in fine shape with no broken parts at all. A little dirty, sure, but not broken and not rusty.

>>33407520
>>33408886
Isn't there some company that's selling M1903 Springfields that are basically original barreled actions with repro stocks?

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>>33408899
Congo-rats you won the milsurp lottery then. I'f i could of walked through the warehouse and picked out one i;m sure i could of found atleast one good one. Mine was slathered in cosmo, it was just dried up in certain parts that were now rusty pits.


Thought about ordering some more. I just want a nice crest and matching bolt, i can fix anything else thats wrong.

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Does it matter which way I load these things, or will these both feed fine?

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>>33407262
Here's mine
I didn't get the gun smith special though, I bought the $179 one

>>33409721
Has to be east to west

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>>33409781
I got the same. Mine's in about the same condition, but came without a cleaning rod or sling. I ordered a new rod off the internet, and it would have been here yesterday except for some reason the Post Office decided to send my package from Denver to San Jose via New Orleans. I also ordered a Nohma Leather sling off of Amazon - not original equipment, but looks nice and doesn't seem out of place with an 85 year old rifle.

All in all, I'm really happy with my purchase.

>>33409814
Yeah mine went from them in Arizona to Kentucky then finally here to California.
As for the cleaning rod, I can't even get it out. Also the screw on the front barrel band is stuck and I haven't gotten around to buying better penetrating oil so I haven't even taken the gun out of the stock yet. Rear sight is pretty bad

>>33409803
Thanks, I'll bring my compass when I go to the range

>>33409852
Never leave home without it

>>33409848
>Yeah mine went from them in Arizona to Kentucky then finally here to California.
Which end of California?

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>>33406158
$2600? Damn that's steep, assuming it's some mint all matching museum piece.

>>33406430
Is a Hakim worth $400? Local store has one for that amount.

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>>33410527
>Is a Hakim worth $400?
Depends on the local environment. Give me the store's name and address and let me crunch some numbers.

>>33409721
Line up the first and last rounds with the dimples /nipples

>>33410527
If it shoots that's a great deal

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>>33408843
Fingers crossed. The 4 reviews were fine.

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Got my first milsurp rifle and fucking love it, think I enjoy it more than any of the ARs I've owned.

>>33410824
Pop on over to the department store and buy some brass wool and some kroil.

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>>33405896

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>>33410884
One of the times I went to a gun show a dealer had one of those on the table.
The price wasn't completely retarded and upon close inspection, the stock was still duffel cut.

>takedown arisaka
>duffel cut

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>>33410884
>$300-$550
Were they thinking in 1995 prices?
>>33410904
GIs are sometimes pretty retarded. I saw someone post their French MLe 1936 rifle. The idiot GI cut the last inch or two off of the butt. There is ONE screw holding the buttstock on.

>>33410881
Would 0000 steel wool work? I already have that.

>>33410956
use brass or bronze wool, it wont leave any scratches on the metal.

>>33410963
Got it. Thanks.

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>>33410884
I had bid on that one too. Went pretty high but Im not shocked.

>>33410963
100% copper wool works also, just make sure its not copper plated steel

>>33410527
That is a very good deal, providing the rifle isn't fucked of course.

>>33411074
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTCvndUJU9Q

MOTHER!

>>33410937
>Sometimes
They are almost always retarded.

>>33411074
>I had bid on that one too. Went pretty high but Im not shocked.
That's about the going rate for one that's matching. Was it matching? If not it's more like a $1k gun.

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>>33410937
Rock Island always lowballs the estimates so they can brag about "zomg we sold for 8000% of estimate". Its fucking retarded, but it works since they are the best firearms auction house and get the most consignors.


>>33411092
it does not specify, but as an alleged "battlefield pickup" it should be all matching.

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What's a Type 38 with intact mum and dust cover worth? (Most major parts matching from what I can see, dust cover is original but non matching, Nagoya Arsenal series 26)

>>33411143
Is it matching? 800+. If it isn't then around $400 tops.

>>33411124
They're probably wrongly assuming that intact mum = battlefield pickup.
>>33411143
The mismatched dust cover hurts. I don't add value to one that is mismatched. I would buy it at around $300. The bolt matches?

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>>33411173
Rock Island....despite the obscene amounts of money they make as the premier gun auction house.....they are fucking retarded fudds.

Their lot descriptions are shit and usually wrong. They will 100% take a consignor's description and post it verbatim on the website. So frequently items are labeled incorrectly or details are gravely lacking. They'll post guns as 'with provenance' but if you look at the details its just a letter from the seller saying the gun is w/e its represented to be --- so not actually provenance at all.

The worst part is once you bid/win, they will call you repeatedly for every auction. They always ask if you have questions about any of the lots. If you're stupid enough to say yes and actually ask them something like
>what caliber is it in? the listing doesnt say
>is the firearm functional?
>does the firearm have the magazine? I dont see one in the picture
>are the parts matching?

they will respond with "I dont know" and then will proceed to read you the same description that posted on the website.....despite the fact that you just told them the exact lot number of the item you were curious about.

They fucking suck balls. However, their post-auction customer service is pretty decent and its the best place to find unicorn guns.

>>33411229
>Giving them your real number instead of a Google Voice number.
You asked for it.

I wonder when the catalogue for their May auction will be available. Or is it already?

>>33411242
meh., i wanted them to actually reach me if there ever was a problem (which did happen, thanks USPS).

the highlight catalog is out, but not the full listings.

>>33411168
>>33411173
Bolt matches, stock looks pretty good too. They've had it up for $700 for about a year but I know they will come down on the price if I make an offer. I've bought guns for less than half the asking price from them before. I'll offer $300 today and see where it goes.

how hard is it to find a French MAS?

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>>33411268
That's like saying: "how hard is it to find a Frenchman?" You gotta be more specific dude.

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>>33411268
I'm usually very hard when I find them.

Seriously, just go to gunbroker and search Mas. You'll find plenty of stuff.

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If you could have one 'surp sniper's rifle what would it be?

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>>33411339
prob a WW1 Gew 98, or an SVD of course.

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>>33411267
>They've had it up for $700 for about a year
Kek, They probably assume intact mum = rare. There is nothing rare about a 26th series made by Nagoya. Maybe if it was a "no" series (~6,000 made) or a 29th series (~3,000 made). It's still about a $300 gun.

Going to the crown point show this weekend. Hoping it's not all bubba'd hunting shit

>>33406906
>tfw you saw one of those for $350 years ago at a gun store
>didn't buy it
>haven't seen one since

>>33411339
I'd have to go with one of the surplus m24a3's that hit the market a couple years ago.

>>33411668
Pure 49s are rare. They only made about 20k total and most of those didn't make it over here.

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I want to buy an FR-8
Anyone have experience?
Any good optic options?

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>>33410852
Sks is my favorite rifle, get good and quick with the stripper clips and you'll never miss magazines

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>>33407561
>clearly you don't belong in this thread
>a prestigious group of gun nerds
>on a Argentinian rock painting board

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>>33411339
AVS-36PE

>>33411914
Stop giving it (You)s.

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>>33405896
I have no where to post, it doesnt go in /ak/ it doesnt go /msa/, and its too ugly to go in any woods gun thread.

>>33408178
This
That fucking non-pro refurbished 1917 Enfield sold for like, $850

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Greek Surplus M1 Garand
Springfield Armory receiver.

It doesn't like the Federal ammo made specifically for M1's.
It feeds regular hunting ammo okay but I really don't like shooting that too much seeing as how it's not good for the Op rod. Gonna test some S&B M1 ammo

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Mix matched m24/47 I got for 100 dollars

And my wartime production P38

>>33412020
I think it's beautiful

>>33411968
I didn't know they sniperfied that gun.

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1899 Swedish Carl Gustav Mauser in 6.5 I got this one for like 250 bucks

>>33412061
not good for the op rod or receiver famalam.

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Well, I guess I could post the same old bullshit you guys have seen a million times. Kinda the theme of the thread anyway.

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>>33412133
I'll probably get one of those ported gas plugs.

Swiss K31 with sling, muzzle cap, and bayonet 400 bucks

>>33411724
>optic options
>milsurp
NOPE

>>33411509
Where are you getting those numbers from?

>>33411724
If you want to mount an optic get a hunting rifle

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>>33412156
You stole that

I bought the bayonet on a whim and then had to get a rifle to put on it

I paid 625 for the raifu

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>>33412121
Russians sniper-fied pretty much everything at some point just to see if they could.

Are these WW2 rifles good for hunting? Where can I learn more about these kind of rifles?
How is the M1 compared to the M14? Do they have easy maintenance?
Sorry, I don't know a thing about guns, but I'm willing to learn.

>>33412100
what a score, that M24/47 has some pretty wood on it

>>33406158
Post the one that went for 10k

>>33412472
>Are these WW2 rifles good for hunting?
They'll work but they aren't the best for it. Many are long and heavy and have poor sights for hunting. For what they cost these days you're better off just buying a new production hunting rifle.

>>33412512
The what now?

>>33412472
The problem with using milsurps for hunting is that most pre-1945 milsurps use ammo that, while not completely unavailable, is more uncommon and more expensive than everyday hunting rounds. If hunting is your thing, you'd probably be better served just by going down to Cabela's or Dick's and buying a Maverick 88 shotgun.

>>33412187
The Allen and Macy Type 38 book.

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>>33412512
It was 12K.

>>33412522
The Finn SAT M91 from a couple years ago.

>>33412522
There was a Mosin that sold on GB for 10k. I seem to have lost the screencap, thought you might have it.

>>33412541
Oh man I wish I had a screen cap of that or something.

>>33412541
This nigga dropping truth bombs

>>33412547

I think the owner posts on gunboards you can probably find more there.

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>>33412472
I wouldn't say they're good.

They'll murder anything that walks, but whats accurate for a military gun isn't always accurate for a hunting rifle. Mounting optics is heresy for milsurps and ironsights are usually pretty terrible.
Depending on your level of numale-ification you may complain about weight.
They also usually come in oddball calibers not commonly found on shelves.


You can find bubbad guns pretty cheap though, so its a bit better. I kinda prefer my bubbad sporter to my fudd gun.
If you could find a pre-fucked 1917 in 30-06 you would have a solid hunting milsurp


The M1 Garand and M14 are virtually the same rifle with a refinement in gas system and the enbloc dropped for magazines.

Maintenance is tedious on both simply because of all the moving parts and the gas systems having their own nuances between them

>>33412567
Yeah, he's Sparky236 there.

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My small but sweet surplus collection. Just got the 1917 today for $600.

>>33407502
>>33407863
Anyone know the answer to this? It's been bugging me.

>>33413029
People like them either for restoring things like drill rifles or for building their own "custom" guns. Sometimes they (hopefully) come from guns that have already been sporterized or otherwise fucked with. But sometimes they come from guns that were fine and guys just parted out because....i have no idea.

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I found this at a pawn shop, anyone have much information on it? Is it worth the asking price? I know it's a 1918 terni carcano, but other than that I'm not too sure

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>>33413250
I found the metal fittings and top half were loose

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>>33413261

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What can anyone tell me about this Steyr M95? It's only marked Budapest M95 with no S mark, if that makes a difference.

Would an original stock be hard to find? How huge of a pain in the ass is ammo/clips?

They want $285

>>33413356
It's a long rifle. Without the S it is likely still in 8x50. So you have to reload if you want to shoot it. For $285 it's pretty high considering the sporterization. Most I'd pay is 225.

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Saw this in an old magazine I flipped through the other day. I curse myself every day.

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>>33413410
well if it makes you feel better those were all Yugo K98s, just look at the wood. A lot of them had fake Waffenamts reapplied to them.

>>33413410
>Mitchell's Mausers
Dodged a bullet there bud

>>33413250
I'd pay that much for it. Italian rifle modelos are convoluted. There's little autistic details books about them.

Could be the picture being washed out, but that stock looks incredibly dry. Little linseed oil would help

>>33413409

Right on. Thanks

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>>33413557
It is, it's like it has no finish at all. The big concern for me is the loose fitting wood though. What can I do about that?

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>>33413250
Moschetto Modello 91/24; a long rifle shortened to carbine-length.

>>33413261
>I found the metal fittings and top half were loose
Because the stock and handguard have had the shit sanded out of them and so the metal no longer has the wood to bear against to keep it tight.

>>33413356
>>33413409
That's a carbine senpai; just look at the rear sight. If it's not import marked, it may have been a bring back, or at least a pre-'68 import. A Bulgarian-refurbished stock set wouldn't be too hard to find, but for $285 it's not worth it monetarily.

>How huge of a pain in the ass is ammo/clips?
Ammo is available from PPU; clips can be found in surplus ammo and on Ebay. I have about 40 boxes of surplus ammo on clips that I've been hoarding just for the resale value.

>>33413603
>What can I do about that?
Nothing really; you can't put the missing wood back.

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>>33413638
Is it worth the 198 they're asking?

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>>33413647
>Is it worth the 198 they're asking?
IMO, no.

Is an M91/30 with a PU scope really that rare?

People have reserves up to 1,200$ on gunbroker for them.

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>>33413678
Thank you, you saved my shills.
Have an exclusive /K/ post I found in gas mask general

>>33413691
Yikes. I remember seeing complete sniper rifles sell for around $500 only a couple of years ago. $1,200 for just the scope sounds insane. I found them for $305 on this site.

https://kalinkaoptics.com/rifle-scopes/pu-original-wwii.html

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>>33413691
>Is an M91/30 with a PU scope really that rare?
Ehh; supply and demand. Soviets made like 250,000 so it's by far the most widely-produced military sniper rifle of the time. Supply is fixed and demand is only going to increase.

>>33413695
Lel, I made that post.

>>33413691
Ahh disregard this >>33413742 I thought you were referring to just the scope.

>>33413603
Wow thats pretty heavily sanded.


The Italians didn't really finish their stocks to begin with, some supposedly got a light stain. But that stock right there looks highly flammable

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Looking to buy an SKS, how much should I pay for a Russian one, and how much for a Type 56?

>>33410824

I don't have a C&R. Do I just change my address to the FFL I will be shipping it to?

>>33415014
Let them know ahead of time but yes.
The people on the site might want a copy of their FFL if they don't already have it on file.

>>33415034

Cool. The order won't go through until Monday anyway so I can stop by then and talk to them about me ordering it.

>>33405896
They sure saw him coming. Were they wearing masks when they took his money?

>>33406949
Puzzled Canuck here. Why are SVT s some expensive in the states compared to Canada?

>>33415265
Can't be imported due to a treaty from 96.

>>33407305
Someday you will wish you had....

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>>33415265
>Why are SVT s some expensive in the states compared to Canada?
Banned by name from import; so supply is fixed but demand only increases.

>>33407400
If you are really worried you can buy snap caps

>>33406517
Does 10$ really matter that much to you? lol

>>33411339
K98K

>>33408517
Can I ask what a Rasheed is worth? I assume you are in the States.

>>33408886
Great idea

>>33412273
holy shit you got raped on that.

>>33415320
Got it thanks. They are going up rapidly here too. Got mine for $500, missed the $300 mark by a year . I could probably get 8 or 9 for it now if I bumped my head and decided to sell it.

>>33408886
Fox Military makes new reproduction military stocks. They're not cheap though.

>>33415501
Not really. That's about what they go for nowadays.

Not exactly milsurp, but local cabelas had a Universal M1 Carbine for $350, that a good deal?

>>33415607
They'd have to pay ME $350 to get me to take home a Universal M1.

>>33415430
In the states, yeah, and $800-$900 or so for one in good shape.

>>33415690
I have one in Canada and really don't know what its worth as I have never seen one for sale. Had it since the early 90's, paid fuck all for it back then. Thanks.

$100 max

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>>33415501
Hardly. Walnut stock in non beaver bait condition with accessories and matching troop tag.

Ideally 500 is the price point for a standard rifle alone

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My small poorguy collection. Reeeeally thinking about one of those 1916 Mausers up there.

>>33415601
>>33416109
I have no issue finding walnut k31s for 400-500 without stock damage
Where the heck are you guys looking that you are finding that 600 is the norm?
Must be lawlbroker

>>33416267
Proofs.

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>>33411509
Got it for $330. Gonna pick it up next week.

>>33416283
Here was one last month.... on the interwebs no less for 450. It had one of the good import marks too. none of the reciever billboard
http://forums.thecmp.org/showthread.php?t=205649
All you have to do is browse forums or find the guns locally. Everything on gunbroker almost always sell for more by 30% than you could get locally unless its a buy-it-now that gets sniped

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>>33415559
Fellow Leaf: If I can get one for just under $400, is that a good idea to do so while I can?

>>33416318
I've honestly never tried the cmp forums. I buy all the time from various milsurp forums though. Locally is hit or miss, mostly boring stuff and bubbas here in ID

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>>33416508
Do it! They are a bit of a pain in the ass to clean but they're a great piece of history and they won't be around forever. I wish I bought when they were sub $300, I think I'm gonna get one soon.

>>33416607
>That pic
Alright so nugget clips do work on it. Sold.

>>33416645
>nugget clips
>work
They do work but they are difficult to use to load any gun that accepts them. I usually just cut my fingers when using them, but they look cool at least.

>>33416666
Are you using real clips or those chink shit repros?

Chinese ones are always out of spec

>>33416713
chink shit, so maybe real ones work better

>>33408840
I loved my m95, I wish I didn't get rid of it but I got a fantastic deal for it and flipped that gun into siaga hunter

>>33409872
[spoiler]bottom half
[/spoiler]LA county

>>33411339
type 97 with matching scope
I can dream

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>>33410852

>Has standard capacity stripper clip

>gun wont hold more then 5

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>1886 lebel for 500 bucks

oh fuck should I grab it bros?

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>get C&R FFL in the mail today
>website won't process it until monday or tuesday
>raifu won't get here until end of next week or week after

fuck everything

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>>33416862
the mag holds 10 unless he's in Canukistan

>>33416986
whenever you feel like that just remember that here in CA, I have to wait 10 days after filling out a 4473 to pick up my firearm

>>33412273
Got it on aimsurplus when they were selling them. God I wish I had money right now. I would have bought the one of those Finnish M39s

>>33416508
>>33416607
All the ones I've seen on gunbroker are well over $1k. How/where are you finding them for that little?

>>33412494
Can with 100 rounds of Romanian surplus and a bayonet too. Not a single matching serial on the rifle. My buddy sold it to me, he wanted to get an Xbox one

>>33417036
Lever Arms, in BC

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>>33413757
Wait really? which one? the joke or the picture? Either way, here's another.

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>>33417036
Because I'm a Cucknadian. We don't have the same import laws, but believe me, I would take having AKs, FALs, HKs, etc and being able to shoot handguns and my AR15 in the woods over cheap SVT-40s. Basically all milsurp in the US is cheaper other than SKSes and SVT-40s.

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>LGS has an 1898 Krag
>Literally no one makes 30-40 Krag anymore

Born to late :(

>>33405896
you guys want to know why these surplus guns are going threw the roof in price?

>newfags
>battlefield 1
>red orchestra
>verdun


video games are showing normies surplus guns other than garands, mp40's, 1911's shit like that.

>>33417064

Remington and some other fucks literally make this shit.

>>33417064
.30-40 is a low priority cartridge. Usually only one run a year when the line is going to be slower.

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>>33416666
Not entirely true. My 1895 happily accepts my shitty clips.

>>33416985
Absolutely. Also reloading dies, PPU won't be in stock until May.

>>33417073
They used to, not even all that long ago. But I haven't found anywhere that actually has it in stock.

>>33417064
1400 is way to much for a 1898 anyway

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>>33417058
The joke.

>>33417072
There were M91/30s in the first Call of Duty 10 years ago, not to mention all the "Enemy at the Gates" fans.

>>33417073
IIRC Remington only makes it biennially now.

>>33416862
I'm curious as to what makes you think I'm Canadian. Because you are correct.

>>33416994
Yeah. Canuckistan. Only paid 250 for the rifle. Contemplating an SVT40 as well but the fact that they're apparently a nightmare to disassemble is kinda turning me off.

>>33417133
That's in monopoly money, so count it more like ~$900

>realize my bank/work condition is too shit to purchase glorious Lebels

here's the link so that one of you milsurp fags can grab it while it's cheap.

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/632563900

>>33417405
>french guns

>>33417060
I've offered free boating trips near the idaho border many times. All they had to bring was their party pants and an svt38/40/sks for extracurricular fun.

I would of course supply American hospitality


None of you leafs ever want to party

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MFW I don't own a nugget.

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>>33417533
RIP sideways picture... I do have a few things though.

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>>33417533
>yfw you can't flip a fucking image

>>33415069
I'm the anon you replied to. Get a copy of your FFL's license and email it to them. Easy peasy. I sent them my C&R and it's supposed to get here Thursday. I'll clean it up and shoot it and report back next week sometime.

>>33417405
>Openly says they sanded it AND slathered tru(shit)oil on it

Well theres the reason its cheap. Doubt the cartouche is still there

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>>33417564
It was right side up on my computer...

>>33417636
What do you do for a living, Anon? Honest answer, don't try to tell me you're a male porn star or a rocket scientist.

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>tfw looking for Enfield No. 4 every pawn shop that has one is "sporterized"

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>>33417648
I star in space porn...

really, in house tech / ship and receive / customer support / application development.

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>>33417072
>Implying more firearms owners are a bad thing
>Implying /k/ hasn't convinced people to buy Nuggets and SKS's
I'm laffin

>>33417463
I'm not into getting caught and made some nig's bitch in prison. If it was risk free I would be happy to do it.

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>>33417706

I may have bought a PS90 because of the videa...

>>33417699
pictures in portrait come out sideways, pictures in landscape come out right... 4chan has changed since i was last here...

Also airshit in the corner, not a g3.

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>>33417798
Wrong picture...

>>33417706

have to admit some of the reason I even got into shooting was because of BF1.

>>33417857
I did not buy BF1 since it was just a normal BF game with a ww1 skin, as a collector I just couldn't.

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FUG
I've wanted an Arisaka forever and there's none in Canada. When one finally comes up for sale it's this and $225. He didn't even post pics of the receiver or say what type it is. How do you only have the barrel and receiver? wtf

>>33406121
>mfw my Hex was $175 3 years ago
Wish i never sold it :(

>>33412123
Were you the guy who got this off GunBroker? looks good. I managed to score a Husqvarna M38 for 50 bucks from a family friend. One of my favorite rifles.

>>33417857
I just buy what C&Rsenal tells me to buy.

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Sup boys and girls, tomorrow is a auction for tons of milsurp weapons and this is one of them. Wondering what is a reasonable price to pay? I'm think 250-300 is my max because there'd be around 20% tax added on to whatever I pay for it.

>>33418111
280.

>>33418111
Really need to know what factory made it and what year, but generally for any Soviet refurb 91/30 that isn't something uncommon like a captured Tikka m/30 or an old M91 shortened to M91/30-length I think $250 should be your max even with tax.

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If there are any Enfield no1 mk3 owners on here I need some help. Im putting an Indian Drill Purpose stock on my Australian Enfield, and im having trouble getting my hinged barrel band to close all the way. It feels like it is matching up with the cut of the wood. Should a do some sanding/filing on the stock, or am I using the wrong band? Were the Indian barrel bands different from the Australian ones?

>>33417896
thats a type 38 in 6.5 jap, can tell because the tang and barrel length and placement of the rear sight

>>3341789
also looks like its missing the bolt. so to get a new bolt, plus stock, the magazine, follower, trigger guard, floorplate, you are looking at probably $300 minimum in parts if you get great deals on everything and more likely $400ish which is pretty dumb considering you be into the gun over $600 and can buy a complete one for like $250-300

>>33418237
Thanks, I need to learn more about Arisakas. They really interest me.

>>33418274
see >>33418262
i think you should just wait and hold onto your money until you find a complete rifle. arisaka parts are expensive and incomplete shit like that is normally not cost effective to restore

>>33417064
Grafs has new 30-40 Krag brass for under $1 per piece now.

>>33418320
Oh I know, it's way too much money. We don't get them much in Canada so it's disappointing. I'm more interested in a Type 99 anyways. Thank you very much though!

>>33418274
I fired my type 38 (the one in this pic >>33417636
) last week, it is actualy a really nice shooting gun. Only put 20 rounds through it, ammo is expensive.

>>33418621
they are really soft recoiling sweet shooters arent they

>>33418211
Why are you putting Indian DP wood on a Lithgow? Your sling swivel is backwards. The long side goes on the right.

I have no idea if the wood/bands are different.

>>33417875
I don't know why people expected battlefield to suddenly become red orchestra or whatever the hell. Its never been a realistic series.

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>>33418995
It's the only stock I could find, and its better than the "sporterized" stock Bubba made for it. Although the stock on it is leaps and bounds better condition than the DP stock, I would rather have a the rifle in its original setup than "Remington 700 wannabe". I bought the rifle for $200 at a gunshow, and the only stock sets I could find on ebay were all over $200. At this point Ive got about $390 into it.

>>33417072
The only thing I'm mad about is that now anytime I search for an Enfield related video on jewtube I get some VIDYA GAEM horseshit.

I don't think many of these fags actually buy guns though, most of them are about 12.