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Handgun and single hand sword combo

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Why wouldn't this work?
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Because dual wielding is a meme

>Insert based Santa shooting the akimbo robber.webm
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>>33402413
Because the sword is useless in this era where any self-respecting semi-automatic handgun holds over 15 rounds and can be reloaded in less than two seconds. Back when a pistol took a 1/3rd of a minute to reload and could only fire once it made a lot more sense.
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Pretty sure this was done irl back in the black powder days by officers and stuff when melee was still common on the battlefield. Especially in a colonial setting where the natives don't have many guns and are determined to get into close quarters to fight. In a modern setting it'd be pretty pointless.
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Any situation where you could have a handgun and a sword a rifle would be much better.
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>>33402413
only work if you're a beefed up space crusader
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>>33402413
Because few situations necessitate the use of a sword in modern times.
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>>33402468
>few
Name one.
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>>33402444
I hope some nigger chops off your head with a Next Generation Albion Sword.
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>>33402478
CQC, would you rather have a 9mm pistol with 15 rounds and a sword or a semioutshotgun?
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>>33402946
>CQC
>Waving around big dorky sword
>not using knife
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>>33402413
It only would work in close quarters, but in that particular case a knife would be better
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Lots of officers had blackpowder pistols and officer swords or sabers during the 18th and 19th centuries. In modern times? It's a meme and not worth it.
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>>33402413

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDWl0J2mkRE
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>>33402946
The 9mm pistol unless the semi shotty in question was a FIME Mini-12
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>>33402461
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>>33402946
A 9mm pistol and the ability to reload quickly because there isn't a fucking sword occupying my free hand.
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>>33402946
M4 carbine with spare mags.
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>>33403367
>M "What fragmentation?" 4
>CQC
Are you trying to die?
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if it works with a knife it could work with a longer blade i guess
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>>33403384
>using outdated euro ammo in the year 2017
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i always liked the look of this one
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>>33402413
Because axes are superior. You already have someting to put holes in people.

But really, it's just another fantasy. When you really have to have a melee weapon handy, you have yourself a shotgat and club someone to death with a stock. Or add a bayonet to your rifle. Or have a knife, heck, even a hatchet on you,
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>>33402413
No reason, as long as your in the trenches.
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also /r/ing more pics of the ww1 soldiers in medieval-esque plate mail
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>>33402968
>Bringing a knife to a sword fight
Good luck getting stabbed
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>>33402413

Is that supposed to look like a middle finger? Pommel strikes with that would be deadly
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>>33403384

5.56 still fragments at close range when shot from shorter barrels.
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>>33402478
Competitive fencing
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>>33402461
We know this happened in the 19th century

>"With a detachment of my regiment I'd come to a village known to be actively hostile and my orders were to burn it. I found the village apparently empty and then sent parties to set the houses on fire waiting myself outside attended by one orderly. When suddenly a man rushed out from a building and came straight at me, his naked body smeared with dust and ashes and his long matted hair, he looked a veritable fiend. Armed with a lathi he bounded at me with a yell of fury taking me completely by surprise. I had barely time to take out my revolver which, unfortunately, was only a toy-weapon presented to me by a lady (toy-weapon meaning a small caliber) and the only pistol I possessed. I promptly fired at him hitting him full on his left breast but the wretched little pop gun failed to do more than just stagger him when he again made a bound forward shouting [I can also strike now pig] and I had just time to draw my sword and ward off a terrific blow which almost broke down my guard but which I returned with such effect that he turned back and fled into the burning village, cursing me loudly as he went. I saw no more of him and I presume he perished among his gods without the satisfaction of having gained his passport to heaven through the sacrifice of an infidel. He was a gallant scoundrel but I cannot say his language was that of a holy man which according to his lights he aspired to be. The harmless result of my pistol shot which, though hitting him directly over the heart had but staggered him warned me in the future not to trust in such a miniature weapon and I took the earliest opportunity to provide myself with a good serviceable Colt's revolver"

tldr - british officer found out the hard way that shot placement isn't always everything during the indian mutiny
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>>33402413

Because swords are for when you are out of ammo.
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>>33402413
Nah. Handgun and a shield would work better.
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>>33402413
Because for the most part using two hands to aim the handgun better (and reload faster) will be more useful. Only law enforcement or counterterrorism operators might be expected to engage with a handgun instead of a rifle as well, so that must be considered.

It may change with powered armor for coppers though. Why waste ammo on a bank robber when you can safely walk up to him and dismember his hands? Less chance of collateral damage too. And swords on the hips of police officers in addition to their service pistol will give them an even more authoritative and A E S T H E T I C look.

Cyborgs who have the ability to block bullets with their swords don't count.
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>>33402413
Haha that sword is flipping you the bird because it thinks you are a gay
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>>33407933
With the wounding ability of blackpowder absolutely, small caliber bullets didn't become a viable solution until the high velocities associated with modern smokeless loads.
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>>33407933
What caliber did he use, and what caliber colt did he get?
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>>33409063
It wasn't said what model he went with, but he probably bought a Colt navy in .36, maybe a Colt dragoon in .44

It's likely the gun he came to India with was something like in .31
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>>33402413
>I first produced my pistol
>and then produced my rapier
>I said stand and deliver or the devil he make take ya
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>>33409089
No wonder he had issues, that's a smaller bore than most popular handgun service rounds these days, and it certainly wasn't as hot of a loading as they are now. The reason for the rise of the 1911's "stoppin powah" meme is starting to make sense if this is what they're comparing it to.
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>>33407933

please tell me the source my child, I very much want to read this
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>>33407933
also, checking those dubs, but seriously need a source on that book.
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>>33402413
reloading with two hands is faster and more effective. the sword wouldn't bring anything to the table, unless you're talking about some pre-modern shit where you use the gun as a single shot skirmishing weapon before closing ranks and engaging in melee.
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>>33402413

Because rifle and bayonet does the same thing more efficiently. Pistol on its own is one thing, if you have a pistol and a sword you're clearly openly displaying your weapons and braced for trouble, so having a rifle and bayonet in the same situation is just as practical. It's also less awkward because you're not forced to off-hand one of your weapons.
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>>33409643
>>33409650
Book is: Under Deadly Fire, by Hugh Gough
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>>33402413
Last time this was viable was during the US civil war and maybe WWI if you really push it. Nowadays any attempt at melee is basically suicide even against the the worst of shooters.
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>>33402413
>pistol with sword
hard to aim, awkward, pistol rounds suck at killing, swords are hard to use, etc.

>M4 with bayonet
easy to use, rifle rounds fuck shit up, bayonet is good at stabbing
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>>33409700

Tell that to Achmed.
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would work only if lightsaber
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>>33402413
gotta reload sometime
also the need to clear stoppages or jams
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