Manhattan Killer weapon

A sharp piece of steel is going to get the job done more often than not, especially if they thrusted with it as intended.

>>33399418
a sharped piece of rebar could ge tthe job done.

this isn't a testament of coldsteels strength so much as the frailty of the human body.

>>33399434
I just find it amazing someone went out and used a fucking gladius to commit a first degree murder

>>33399418
I have one of those because I wanted a cheap thing that looked like a Gladius.

"The 26-inch weapon — with an 18-inch blade — pierced the victim’s chest just above his heart and exited his back before pinging against the sidewalk on Monday night."

It's tragic, but this is kinda surprising to me. I thought the blade was too thin to go through bone.

>>33399443
have weapon, will kill

>>33399474
Thinner the better, as long as it's hard enough to not bend/flex under the pressure.

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>>33399427
We knew that already.

>>33399418
And investors laughed at me when I proposed creating a "stab proof" clothing line that we would charge out like Apple iPhones..

>>33399558
It's stupid because the same people who feel need for it will one, be poor or two, constantly trying switch up thier wardrobe because they are rich

Well shit, that's not the usual murder weapon you expect.

>dead leftist nigger

god bless

>>33399474

It's made to cut through branches that are harder than bone to cut through, so it'd be fine

Against no armor other than a shirt/coat, machetes are probably better to use as weapons as they're lighter than swords, so you can get the velocity up with the swing and the thin blade doesn't have much resistance.

>>33399636
Yes, it didn't seem hard enough and I thought it would bend if you stabbed something hard. Seems this crime disproved that kinda.

>>33399636
Cutting it does fine, it was the stabbing I wasn't sure about. But seems like I was wrong.

>>33399418
Has an uglier piece of metal ever been created?

hard mode: no iPhones

>>33399647
*Meant to quote >>33399493 for the first one.

>>33399434
>frailty of the human body
Human body is more brittle than society wants to admit. Only the spirit is strong. With people in the last decade that has become fragile also.

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>>33399418
DuPont brand Jumpsuits.
When you need sponsorship for a lawyer, choose Dupont.

>>33399434
Human body strongest body on earth, humans are monsters. Human endurance surpasses all other terrestrial life.
Human breaks a leg? No problem lock bone in place with a splint and drink fermented potato water to numb pain. Horse breaks a leg? Death sentence.
We figured out surgery before we figured out anaesthetic, humans have been known to preform surgery on themselves.
Despite all this we do die very easily.

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>>33399418
>Stabbed someone with a Gladius

>>33399636
Not every machete is a South African floppy shrub cutter.

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>>33399418
I'll tell you what gets the job done...

>>33399687
>Human body so inefficient you need to eat every few hours, can't go a day without water or you die, gets sick, gets cancer, only lives 80 years if you're lucky but half of those years will suck ass due to poor health

>>33399418
WARRIOR LIFESTYLE

>>33399719
FOKKIN LASER SIGHT

>>33399722
>no animal needs less food than a human
>humans can go 3 weeks without food, 3 days without water, and 3 hours without shelter in below freezing temperature
>heavy clothing counts as shelter
>humans are the only creature with a long enough lifespan that cancer kills us
>all animals get sick
>80 years is more than twice most animals
>only creature we know of that lives longer is a fucking deep sea lobster
We drink alcohol, which is literally poison, fermented foods are a delicacy, we season our food with plants most animals find toxic.

>>33399675
Bet his clothes were clean though!

Tyvek wins again!

>>33399757
Don't forget that humans are able to heal injuries that would kill almost any animal that's not an arthropod and have endurance many times that of any critter.

>>33399757
>only creature we know of that lives longer is a fucking deep sea lobster
The time of man has come to an end,the lobsters will rise

>>33399675
Why'd they dress him tyvek suit?

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>>33399757
>only creature we know of that lives longer is a fucking deep sea lobster

Hey, buddy...

>>33399808
exactly
>>33399831
they have not mastered the power of glorious firearms, for there is no fire in the ocean, nor dexterity to wield guns in their big, meaty, claws.
>>33399867
I forgot about those shits desu

>>33399647

It's meant to cut along the entire edge to the tip, so it'd be perfectly fine for thrusting against flesh and bone.

>>33399867
this and many other animals have natural lifespans well beyond human average

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>>33399418
Somehow I can't help but feel like this is all Lynn Thompson's fault.

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>>33399493
this is a real period gladius' reinforced point - thickened at the spine.

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>>33399897
in any case, I'm certain the legions would gladly use CS Gladius machets if you were to supply them with them. it's one of the very few good CS products.

Hahahah

Wow, i got one of those for $30 about 6 years ago.

I mean it's quite functional, sharp and strong, i don't see the amazement, you can kill someone with anything.

>>33399927
Not wet spaghetti anon. Not wet spaghetti...

>>33399938
That sounds like a challenge.

>>33399938
>mush wet spaghetti into paste
>put on stairs
>people slipp and break their necks
>you just killed ppl with wet spaghetti!

>>33399722
You don't understand biology retard
Simply look at the way organism size and metabolism correlate

>>33399722
>Human body so inefficient you need to eat every few hours

only if you are american. I regularly went for days without food during UNI and most guise I knew then did. Usually I just ate once a day.

>>33399418
enough weight at the tip to hack and slash into submission, still short enough to thrust one-handed.

Looks great.

>>33399427
I would not trust mild steel
even 4mm thick its still weak

>>33399443
Kebabs are crazy dude

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>>33399418
>I always thought they were gimmicky but holy fuck I guess they get the job done.

That particular machete ain't bad and stuff of way worse quality can handle cutting someone up.

>>33399636
>It's made to cut through branches that are harder than bone to cut through, so it'd be fine
>Against no armor other than a shirt/coat, machetes are probably better to use as weapons as they're lighter than swords, so you can get the velocity up with the swing and the thin blade doesn't have much resistance.

The thrust is superior to the cut.

>>33399418
The victim was 66 years old

Cowardly attack.

>>33400013
This. I'd rather stab somebody than have to try and chop them down. Loads easier.

>>33399957
>I regularly went for days without food during UNI and most guise I knew then did.
Wow, that sure sounds healthy you dumb fag
>Usually I just ate once a day.
That's fine though.

>>33399808
>humans are able to heal injuries that would kill almost any animal that's not an arthropod
Proofs?
>have endurance many times that of any critter.
This part is neat though, literally the only two animals that can even come close to competing are Horses and Wolves/doggos

>>33400005
>white supremacist James Jackson
>kebab

Did you retards even read the article or just assume it was another brownskin?

>>33400092
>white supremacist
I kek every time.

>>33399719
pure sex

>>33400095
>man from Maryland travels to New York to target black men

anon, I'd say that's pretty indicative of some level of white supremacy or black hate

>>33400193
>white guy kills a black guy
>it is 100%, without a doubt, racism

Wew lad. Wait until we get the full picture. If he wanted to stab a black guy for the sake of stabbing a black guy he could have stayed in Maryland.

>>33399854
Tyvek breathes but is waterproof. My guess is that the station has a bunch of them on hand to keep pissy and shitty prisoners' fluids to themselves.

>>33399577
I'm amazed he even needed a knife considering how edgey you faggots are

>>33400193
>racism = white supremacy
lel

>>33400199
He wanted to stab a black guy in "muh Jew York" to make a statement

>>33400222
Glad you can read minds.

>>33400222
Did he say that or are you assuming?

The people who buy Cold Steel are the edgiest fucks 90% of the time, and even though half of what they make isn't bad, it's overpriced and looks embarrassingly mall ninja and "scary."

This is going to make it that much harder to carry a knife in NYC.

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>>33399418
i have the same sword!

>>33399647
Considering the Gladius was all about the stab and cold steel usual makes shit TOO thick, idk how you perceived it as an issue

>>33399670
One little blood clot can kill a healthy adult while another can survive getting his lower half blown off. Life is strange

>>33399687
People stopped putting their horses down for broken legs a long time ago. Vets and med have come a long way.

Also tardigrades exist and they are THE toughest form of life yet discovered

>>33399757
There are several species that can easily outlive us, a shitload with slower metabolisms, many that straight up freeze in the winter and thaw in spring and you have clearly never seen a dog die of cancer.

Animals generally don't GET to live any longer because they haven't escaped the food chain

>>33400285
>it's overpriced
Compared to what?
Because CS are generaly the cheapest of their category outside of chinese shit.

>>33400086
Where did he claim it was optimal or something he did for fun? Do you not understand the concept of the broke as, busy stressed out college kid.

And that's after humans made it past hunter/gatherer where food was luck of the draw

>>33399443
deadliest weapon in history

>>33400232
It's what the article says, numbnuts. Did you even fucking read it?

>White supremacist James Jackson, 28, wanted maximum exposure for his crime, telling investigators he rode 200 miles on a bus from Baltimore because New York is the “media capital of the world.”

“He wanted to make a statement,” said Assistant Chief William Aubry, head of the Manhattan detectives squad.

>>33399418
I've got one of those, they're pretty neat

yes they're cheap, yes they're mildly autistic, but it is definitely sharp as fuck and seems to hold an edge well for what I use it for (namely cutting up random boxes and already trashed basement furniture when the mood strikes me)

>>33400349

Their folding knives were 50+ dollars for AUS-8 up until a year ago.

>>33400331
Bullshit. My dog was castrated because otherwise it would have died of testicular cancer.

There's even a particular dog-specific cancer that's nothing but mutated cancer cells of a 900 year long dead dog that infect new dogs by the nose and settle as cancer cells in the dog's nose.

Cancer in dogs is real.

>>33399757
Human endurance is also insane.
>able to run at a decent pace for 20km and more
>able to walk almost endlessly
>can also fucking swim great distances because dominating land just wasn't enough

Hunters used to just stalk animals until they collapsed from exhaustion. Think about how horrifying that is.

>be deer
>nimble
>graceful
>beautiful
>fart out 40lbs in rabbit shit like a fire hose
>hear rustle
>prance away
>haha tha- more rustle
>prance away faster and farther
>this continues for days until legs collapse or heart fails
>bipedal terror closes in before prying flesh apart
>peels skin from muscle and uses body parts to enhance their killing ability

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>>33399719
What type of knife is this?

>>33400359
You added the
>"Jew York"
part. He just went to NYC because it's a big city and his actions would get more attention you fucking faggot

>>33400393
>not being able to recognize a /pol/tard meme nickname for New York

>>33400405
I recognize it, you just inserted it into something to fit your argument.

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>>33400390
fairbairn sykes fighting knife
made slim and balanced just for the soul purpose of fucking shit up with great accuracy

>>33399719
>tfw be so eurocuck that its easier to buy a gun than obtain a stilleto

>>33400390
Fairbairn Sykes dagger oc...
Is this some strange b8?

>>33400376
I don't judge a knife from the steel as long as it's not utter shit. AUS8 was subpar but since they upgraded to very good steels without upgrading the price.

XHP is very good, the other one is good too, their 3v things are on the expensive side.

But regardless of steel, the design is good and tough, it makes me cringe when sebenzas or medfords have a "super steel" because their lock is shit and thus it's useless to have a thick blade (the blade will never be the failing point anyways). And having a thick blade prevents it to cut efficiently no matter the steel.
The only use for a good steel on a thick blade is to use a convex grind like in the fallknivens and outside of "bushcraft" and wood working I don0t see the point.

>>33400427
>they upgraded to very good steels without upgrading the price.

But they did up the price when they changed their steels. Why do you lie?

>>33400427
Usually the point is at the end of the knife.... Just try looking anon

>>33400393
>He just went to NYC because it's a big city and his actions would get more attention you fucking faggot

>Glad you can read minds

...Was this you? If so, you literally just did the same thing you criticized someone for.

>>33400251

"“He wanted to make a statement,” said Assistant Chief William Aubry, head of the Manhattan detectives squad."

I'll say that after changing their steel and getting the triad lock and coming out with some actually normal and sane-looking designs instead of trying to be half innovation-for-the-sake-of-innovation and half mall ninja, Cold Steel has become a solid knife company.

Still makes me cringe though how their knives have something like "broken skull" or "recon-1" going across the blade though.

>>33400199
>>33400209
>>33400232
>>33400393

>Trying this hard to defend a "fellow" white man who turned himself in

>>33399577
>>>/pol/catalog

>>33400416
Dunno lad, I'm not from the UK and I personally wasn't familiar with this knife before.

>>33399650
It's a Cold Steel. What do you expect? They paint all their shit black to make it look "cool". Their swords are shit quality, come apart, and are way too heavy for what they should be.

>>33399418
That's a fedora tier pice of shit you can buy at a gas station.

>>33400515

see >>33400514

>>33399722
>what is exercise and healthy diet
>what is medicine
>hurr hurr I don't understand the 3 day and 3 week rule

>>33400286
When you gotta defend the waifu on a budget

>>33400315
No, actually, they haven't stopped.

Safe act 2.0
Ban all assault swords

>>33400511
It's just one of the most if not the most famous knife made for/during WW2 that's why.
If you have been browsing /k/ for just a little bit, it should be a familiar face.

Anyway, look up mr Fairbairn, the guy had a colorful life...

>>33400439
They kept the same MSRP when going from AUS8 to XHP.

But where can I get a quality gladius? I always wanted one since playing Rome: Total War forever ago. I am a poorfag so somewhere's around $250 range.

>>33400293
Because the actual Gladius has a reinforced tip and the CS one hasn't.

>>33399938
Wet spaghetti is heavy. Therefore, it could be used to weight some kind of mace. Alternatively, you could simply suffocate somebody with it via cramming large handfuls down their throats.

>>33399427
>The gladius was a thrusting sword
WEW

>>33400733
The actual gladius was born as a bronze design and finished his life in a very bad steel, not tempered. Even if the CS one is half the thickness, a simple 1075 is 10 times better than the old "steel" and people nowadays wear less armor than before. Especialy dindus in their natural habitats.

>>33399418
>Guy killed people with a piece of sharp metal
>HURRRR COLDSTELL MUST BE GUD

>>33400709
Not that Anon but I've been lusting after this for a while...

http://www.kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=501430

>>33399938
Wet spaghetti + funnel = asphyxiation death.

>>33399938
Wet spaghetti + funnel = asphyxiation death.

>>33400756

you are a special breed of stupid, aren't you

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I'm going to be honest, I think a gladius (even Cold Steel) with a shield is the best self-defense besides a firearm.

>>33399757
>birds live longer than us dipshit. Also turtles, alligators, and some snakes

>>33399905
It's because it's relatively short, lacks frills, and the original design wasn't much different. CS would have to strap wings and superfluous shit to it to fuck it up.

The grip and pommel are probably cheap as shit plastic though.

>>33400193
So what's it called when niggers shoot white cops deliberately? Acts of aggression toward authority right?

Fucking liberals are brain dead I swear.

>>33400006
Most of these cheap blades have trouble at the handle because it's cheap plastic or some shit. That one has cord-grip which is basic but works.

>>33400783
The handle won't let you properly grip it to thrust
You could only do very close range thrusts with it without literally snapping your wrist

>>33400359
So complete here say huh?
Don't believe anything you read and only half of what you see dumb fuck.

>>33399418


I own one, they are actually pretty badass. I would take it innawoods and chop random branches and shit for firewood. When I was working with my uncle in the summer landscaping I took it to clear heavy brush and shrubbery.

After a good year of whacking it still held a relatively sharp blade, AND I bought it used.

>>33400331
Humans have the lowest cancer rates of nearly all the creatures on earth m8
Something stupid, like 90% of dogs get cancer

>>33399418
Coldsteel is good. But I prefer to buy in local shops that I know.

>>33400860
Racism? A black supremacist shoots a white guy it's racism. White supremacist stabs a black guy it's racism. One doesn't excuse the other you stupid fuckwit.

The article also talks about how he deliberately wanted to kill black men because he hated them, especially ones that fucked white women. That's pretty fucking white supremacist senpai.

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>>33400797
Even with a firearm, repalce the lance with the rifle, the gladius with the pistol and the shield with a ballistic shield.

Universal shield makes polymer shields that resist .338LM and weigh less than a police shield.

https://youtu.be/G-VEcbn_Cyc

>>33399757
Actually birds are much more efficient from bio-mechanics point of view. Good thing that flight locks them into small size so they can't be very smart.

>>33400797
Replace gladius with arming sword or complex hilt sword and you would be right.

>>33400877
Which is exactly how the romans used it.

>>33400860
You're pretty brain dead yourself because obviously you didn't read the article just like the rest of you fucking retarded Trump supporters.

“He wanted to make a statement,” said Assistant Chief William Aubry, head of the Manhattan detectives squad.

>inb4 he's a liberal faggot

Fuck you nigger. I hate ghetto niggers just as much as the rest of you. Both cuckservatives and libtards like yourself need to be hanged. I voted for McMullin because he was the only sane person on the ballot.

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How had no one not posted Will Keith yet?

I mill ol' Voltron WeaponsBird

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQIDa17Fw5E

>>33401124
>mill
miss

>>33399990
mild steel pipe cut at an angle. pretty fuckin deadly.

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>>33399500
>We knew that already.

>>33401203
hail odin xD

>>33400797
one on one yea

I would like to see a mob of protesters vs a group of Phalanx Riot Police with sarissas.

>>33400766
M8 that's exactly what I am looking for!! Do you know how often, if ever, they restock??

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>>33400963
Uh, Corvidae????

>>33401082
There is little evidence for that other than a few neckbeard Roman philosophers saying that hacking is for barbarians and stabbing is how gentlemen attack
Considering how they fought neither would really be more effective

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>>33399854
>>33400205

probably more likely that his clothes were removed for use as evidence (blood spatter etc)

>t. first 48 episodes

>>33399757
Don't forget that we essentially have hardware accelerated 3D ballistic calculators in our brains, better than most primates even. It took until WWII for mechanical and electronic targeting to outdo the human brain.

>>33400960
>>33400960
That's the gayest shit I've seen in a while yet I still sort of want one. Are they even practical in any situation besides urban combat?

>>33399418
I thought they banned scary knives?!

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>>33400013

This. Only way I'd try to chop some one down, is if I was like the mountain from game of thrones. Even then I rather stab them, use his brute strength to lift the person.

The Gladius claims another, after hundreds of years.

>>33399927
I have one I got as a garden tool/last resort home defence weapon. Shit goes through solid 1ft thick wood without even slowing down. I am surpries by the stabbing though, because my tip bends from small shit when I tried stabbing even once.

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>>33402471

>Tfw you'll never be 6'9" 400lbs of muscle.

>>33399418
>be white
>be crazy
>stab black dude in NY
>"White supremacist"

>>33402471
Mmmmmm hot af

>>33399427

Cold steel machetes aren't even sharp, nor do they hold an edge well. Even wal mart machetes are sharper than that garbage. I think the only reason he managed to kill someone with that one was because its a gladius and the tip is really pointy.

Why do plebeians NEED gladii? Gladii are weapons of war that only belong in the hands of trained legionaries. If Gauls attack your city, just let the legions handle it. You are more likely to hurt yourself or a loved one with your gladius than you are to use it in defense against barbarian raiders.

>>33399443

Nigga shouldn't have talked shit about XIII legion.

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>>33402703

You know there is so many ppl who dream about the Viper and the Mountain tag teaming them.

>>33399418

I own one of these actually. (It was a gift.)
They come sharp as fuck, but the tip is very weak.
You can even see in the picture that it's bent.

>>33400960
Where is the knee pads and shin guards to protect your lower legs

>>33400797
I think a lorica segmentata would go a long ways too.

>>33401120
>I voted for McMullin
fuck off mormon retard

>>33400929
A: Your concept of "white supremacy" is the same bullshit liberal strawman
B: Plenty of legitimate reasons to oppose miscegenation
C: Whites are murdered every day by blacks, never a peep made by the marxist press.

>>33402888
>Trips of truth

I do not understand why everyone is so upset, it was just a gaul.

>>33399418
>I always thought they were gimmicky
If they were gimmicky, they wouldn't have been extensively used by the Romans for a long fucking time.

>>33399742
underrated

>>33400511
Let one of your countrymen educate you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDGHKyB3T_U
I post this vid at every opportunity because that dude is fucking hardcore

>>33399675
Take a closer look at that snout!

>>33401120

>dislikes cuckservatives
>votes for McMullin

?????

>>33401124
>wasting perfectly good seltzer like that
What an asshole.

>>33401124

I bet that fat fuck still lurks here.

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>>33400206
>>33400505
Fuck off retarded leftist cunt. Go back to plebbit.

>>33400206

Shut up nigger, no one cares about your faggot ass opinion.

Theyre actually pretty nice for under 30 bucks. Good enough for the ol chop chop.

>>33400308

This shit right here. Amazing when you read about some one jumping from the golden gate bridge and surviving, then you read up on how some one trip and fell on the side walk and died from that.

>>33400761
>and finished his life in a very bad steel, not tempered.

but that's wrong

Romans didn't go cheap on swords, they made fairly good quality metal

>>33403478
mad

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>>33401203
>>33399500
For the Emperor Frater!

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>>33401301

SONS OF MARS

>>33399418
NY Daily News...

>>33401780

lol, electrical targeting wasn't even a thing till after the turn of the century so not that big of a deal.

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>>33403928
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysWRb9bqB-Y

>>33399757
What about birds, whales, lizards, worms, sharks, jellyfish, and clams?
Pretty sure you're wrong, buddy

So...we'll be banning scary black assault swords now?

>>33399938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au-vMfRuYMg

Only instead of water imagine all the spaghetti that was rocketing out of your pockets right as you typed that out.

>>33399670
"Waaah, people are too whiny, waaah!"

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>>33403256
>ya rip out the lot
>bit of a messy job

>>33399722
I've been water fasting for close to a month now. Step up your game, son.

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>>33399757
>what is the immortal jellyfish

>>33402967
>dex vs str

>>33400013
That depends on what you're thrusting with, what you're cutting with, and the general context of the action.

>>33400090
>Proofs?
A broken bone of almost any kind is a death sentence for most animals on the planet, either from shock induced death or starvation/predation. Only thing that a human can't readily overcome is a spine, pelvis or major leg/foot fracture.
Humans have vastly overactive scar tissue compared to any other mammal, fish or avian on the planet. That means wounds close faster, which limits infections. Our wounds also clot faster and we can lose more blood by body weight and not die than most critters. Our bodies also take more punishment before succumbing to shock.
Really the only complex organisms that compare to humans for rugged survivability are arthropods and cephalopods.

>>33401312
Even better, testudo with sarissas and modern ballistic shields

>>33403507
The joke


(You)r head

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>>33402509
Not with that attitude.

>>33400382
My mwd died of cancer. It's really common in older gsd's along with hip displaysia.

Never knew it either, military dogs are pretty stoic. One day we were searching vehicles deployed and he froze up and put his head down and was unresponsive. Got evacd to Germany to see the real vet and the dog was acting fine. They did exploratory surgery and found cancer all over his organs and ended up having to put him down.

The fucking vet had told me "in sure everything's fine he shows no symptoms." Then two hours later asks me if i want to see him one last time.

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>>33404889
>the immortal jellyfish
Turritopsis dohrnii, the immortal jellyfish, is a species of small, biologically immortal jellyfish found in the Mediterranean Sea and in the waters of Japan.

It is one of the known cases of animals capable of reverting completely to a sexually immature, colonial stage after having reached sexual maturity as a solitary individual. Others include the jellyfish Laodicea undulata and Aurelia sp.1.

Like most other hydrozoan bacteria, T. dohrnii begin their life as free-swimming tiny larvae known as planula. As a planula settles down, it gives rise to a colony of polyps that are attached to the sea-floor. All the polyps and jellyfish arising from a single planula are genetically identical clones. The polyps form into an extensively branched form, which is not commonly seen in most jellyfish.

Jellyfish, also known as medusae, then bud off these polyps and continue their life in a free-swimming form, eventually becoming sexually mature. When sexually mature they have been known to prey on other jellyfish species at a rapid pace. If a T. dohrnii jellyfish is exposed to environmental stress or physical assault, or is sick or old, it can revert to the polyp stage, forming a new polyp colony. It does this through the cell development process of transdifferentiation, which alters the differentiated state of the cells and transforms them into new types of cells.

Theoretically, this process can go on indefinitely, effectively rendering the jellyfish biologically immortal, although, in nature, most Turritopsis are likely to succumb to predation or disease in the medusa stage, without reverting to the polyp form.

>>33399443

> MARS, EXALTE!!!!
> MARS, EXALTE!!!!
> MARS, EXALTE!!!!
> MARS, EXALTE!!!!
> MARS, EXALTE!!!!

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>>33403478
>they legit think Commies can out-argue anyone

I cannot actually conceive of a worldview more thoroughly detached from reality than Communism, barring perhaps Tumblr-tier social justice, and I'm not sure that counts. Even modern left-wingers and fascist loons are more grounded in reality than Communists.

>>33403872
>Romans didn't go cheap on swords

Yes they did. Fielding an army is expensive. Rome cut corners where they could. Also, for much of Rome's history legionaries paid for their own equipment.

>they made fairly good quality metal

Metallurgy in Europe didn't catch up with Asia until relatively recently. Also, given that Italy is relatively mineral poor, Roman metal workers (barring bronze, depending on who you ask) turned out a mediocre product at best. That having been said, the Roman empire was quite large and conducted trade with many different cultures, so the quality of a legions' weapons could vary drastically from man to man.

>>33405442
The arsenal of Rome was Hispania, Assyria, and Thrace. The swords weren't made in Italy.

>>33399418
there is no blood on that though, FAKE NEWS!

>>33405188

>tfw you'll never be an immortal invertebrate

>>33405442

>European Metallurgy didn't catch up to Asia until recently

opinion discarded

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>>33405442
>Metallurgy in Europe didn't catch up with Asia until relatively recently.

How fucking retarded are you? Even today the Chinese can't forge a bar of steel worth a fucking damn.

>>33400390

get the fuck out and back to r*ddit where you belong

>>33406239
>>33406264
>implying Asia Minor and South Asia are somehow not Asia.

Look up from where wootz steel was sourced and from where Europeans learned how to make crucible steel.

>inb4 "that shit wasn't any better than muh teutonic iron"

Have you not read what the Crusaders had to say about Damascus steel?

>>33401485
Not entirely sure but the same sword is in stock for a slightly higher price at other websites. All depends on how patient you are.

>>33399742
Thermite + Thatcher is cutest couple

>>33400963
>not very smart

>crows arguably the smartest animal on the planet 2nd only from humans.

>>33399443
>I just find it amazing someone went out and used a fucking gladius to commit a first degree murder
A thousand years of war were waged by the Gladius. It's kinda got a proven track record.

>>33400410
God, bleeding out is such a hsit way to go. If someone gets you in one of those major arteries, is it painful or do you just go into shock at the huge drop in blood pressure?

>>33406836
Random

>>33400308
Well, it depends on what organ gets damaged. A heart or brain with a blood clot in it is absolutely detrimental. Your lower half doesn't have as fragile or vital organs as your upper chest and cranium, so assuming you can stop the bleeding you'll be fine (well sort of at least).

Think of it this way, an Abrams can take heavy arty shells point blank, but some fine sand in the engine will fuck it up.

>>33400090
Which is why early humans domesticated them. Good call mankind.

>>33400286
Same. I feel the supremacy slowly overtaking me. As if some being from beyond is speaking to me about white genocide through the blackness of the blade coating...

>>33401544
You really are retarded arent you?

>>33404399
Quit whining about him whining about whinny people.

>inb4 whines about my whining about your whining about his whining about their whining

>>33405889

I touched on that in my second paragraph.

>>33406239

You left out the qualifier "relatively". Until the European renaissance (or thereabouts; it wasn't an immediate change) the best steel came from the east.

>>33406264

As a matter of fact they can. It's not their fault that retards pay more for shiny chrome and paste jewels than temper and distal taper. If, as a consumer, you demand a better product, you will get a better product.

>>33400387
More like we'd follow herd animals. The aim was to get the old/young/sick ones to drop from exhaustion, not drive healthy ones to death.

>>33403005

That was from hitting the concrete

You'll chip or curl over the edge on most blades if you hit stone/concrete

>>33400494
>instead of trying to be half innovation-for-the-sake-of-innovation
nigga they're still doing that.

>>33399742
Kek

>>33399418


I own one of those

My friends ask
>"What's the point, it's $40-60 USD"

I say:
>"a bullet will bleed a man, but this will cut his fucking limbs off".

Best weapon system ever invented.

>>33399722
College education here. let's look at inference:

>Can smoke pesticides and herbicides for a buzz
>can eat chocolate, as a treat and aphrodisiac
>can digest dairy, can metabolize alcohol
>can cook out parasites and eat charbroiled food
>can consume capsasine for fun and 'spice'
>basically, every seasoning was evolutionary 'spicy' by merit of its natural defenses, as we use that shit as garnish.

synthetic drugs that would kill or trank a horse, and often do

coke that would make a horse's heart explode

ethanol is a combustible fuel source, we drink it to 'get loose'

Smoke makes every other animal run, fire makes every animal fear, humans shoot it at eat other on the battle field, clear continents with it, and breathed in so much smoke that evolutionary, they can puff on a cigarette for 50 years and THEN finally die (if they're unlucky).

Humans are running machines, made to persistence hunt. That's the equivalent of the Jason vorheeves of the animal kingdom, forcing something run till its too tired to then be slaughtered by a mysterious following figures.

we hunt and communicate so well, we kill each other with NUKES launched from submarines, and A10 chainguns armed with depleted uranium rounds, to penetrate forged steel plate armor.

>b-but, rhinos are big and have a horn....

What other organism is destroying the world just to feed itself forms of grass (corn and rice)?


We are biological monsters. communicating close to telepathically now, as far as biological communication goes.

>>33406787

They can throw walnuts in the street and solve puzzles in a lab after being exposed to them for probably years.

Niggers actually created weapons and reusable tools.

>>33402471
Easier to land a proper blow with a cut than a stab against a mobile target trying to defend itself. Disable a limb with a cut aimed at shoulder or such, then finish off with a stab.

>a weapon from fucking Cold Steel™ was used to kill someone
/k/ BTFO
How can /k/ ever recover? Come back to criticize Cold Steel™ when some Albion sword kills someone better, faggots.

>>33400013
>The thrust is superior to the cut.
Not necessarily. Thrusting is generally more lethal, but that doesn't mean cutting is useless or that thrusting will stop somebody faster.

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>>33410688
>Not necessarily. Thrusting is generally more lethal

Then yes, necessarily.

>>33400797
>not a spear or whatever the legions actually used like a javelin

Gladius is a back up, every short-sword ever usually was

>>33410865
No, because a thrust is generally not immediately incapacitating. If you cut into someone's arm or chop his hand or fingers off, he's not going to hit you any more because he's physically unable to. If you run a sword through someone he might still harm you - even if he dies later from internal bleeding. There are descriptions of 16th century duels where a man was stabbed through his chest and still slit his opponent's throat with his dagger - both people ending up dead.

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>>33410865
So terminal ballistics is the only thing that matters about guns? Top speed the one and only measure of a car's worth? And a fight is just two guys poking each other once every [time unit] until one runs out of HP?

>>33411458
Yes, the soft iron javelin that was prone, perhaps even outright designed, to bending to hell at first impact was their primary melee weapon, not the sword.

>>33411496
>If you run a sword through someone he might still harm you

And if you buy a lottery ticket you might win.

>>33411534
>So terminal ballistics is the only thing that matters about guns?

All other things held equal, yes.

>>33411570
>And if you buy a lottery ticket you might win.
What do you think happens if you stab someone? In the majority of cases his body won't shut down immediately.

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>>33411596
>In the majority of cases his body won't shut down immediately.

They don't need to die to not be able to fight anymore. If running someone through and having them retaliate immediately afterward was particularly common I very much doubt that people would've gravitated towards thrusting swords as they did.

>>33411628
>I very much doubt that people would've gravitated towards thrusting swords as they did.
It depends a lot on the societal context in which the weapons were used. Whether they were weapons for civilian life or weapons of war, what kinds of implicit or explicit customs or regulations there were, what type of defences they had to deal with, what kinds of other weapons were used at the time, etc.

The image is named "assorted rapiers", but you see two backsword type weapons there, a claymore and something resembling a schiavona - which were competitors of the rapier. And the debate on whether cutting or thrusting was better was by no means one-sided. The English fencing master George Silver for example had a rather strong opinion on that matter, and to him a purely thrust oriented sword was the inferior one.

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>>33411458
Sure, in the early days when the legions fought as hoplites, and the late empire when armored cavalry became a greater threat. But for most of the republic/empire, Romans relied on some form of stabbing sword for the bulk of their fighting. Pilum were only meant as a shock weapon at the start of the battle, mainly to pierce shields and render them useless before closing in with the gladius.

>>33399957
>bragging about being a malnourished europoor

You can't make this shit up

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>>33411650
>It depends a lot on the societal context in which the weapons were used. Whether they were weapons for civilian life or weapons of war, what kinds of implicit or explicit customs or regulations there were, what type of defences they had to deal with, what kinds of other weapons were used at the time, etc.

I am already aware that context matters, I don't think that everyone everywhere used swords for everything and I don't think everyone used one kind of sword.

I do think that the thrust is generally superior to the cut.

>two backsword type weapons there, a claymore and something resembling a schiavona - which were competitors of the rapier

Call it thrusting_swords.jpg if that suits your fancy, the rapier gave way to the smallsword in the civilian wold and while cut & thrust swords won out in militaries they still placed great emphasis on the point.

>the debate on whether cutting or thrusting was better was by no means one-sided

I am also already aware of that.

I am aware that this is my opinion.

>>33400416
people can be new

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>>33411844
>the rapier gave way to the smallsword in the civilian wold
I would argue that the smallsword was not an "improvement" of the rapier, but merely a further "civilianised" version of it. People simply didn't want to carry these huge weapons around any more and knock things over whenever they turned around. Carrying a smallsword symbolised the willingness to defend oneself rather than being primarily intended to be the most effective weapon. That being said: smallswords were by no means ineffective, they were quite dangerous in fact - but for both participants. Due to their incredibly light weight and their short range, duels with smallswords were often described as random. Even if the duellists didn't intend to kill each other they often accidentally perforated a lung (which was the most common deadly injury if 18th century sources are to be believed). In my opinion the rapier is the better weapon as its length gives it much better defensive properties, albeit I can see why people became tired of carrying the weapons around all day.

>while cut & thrust swords won out in militaries they still placed great emphasis on the point.
Most definitely and I'm by no means saying that the cut is generally superior. All I'm saying is that the cut has generally more immediate effects.

>>33399722
Anon, most people aren't getting their diabetic foot amputated at 40

>>33400878
>here say
cletus pls, just because you sympathize with the murderer doesn't make him not racist

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>>33411924
>I would argue that the smallsword was not an "improvement" of the rapier, but merely a further "civilianised" version of it.

I would not disagree, my point was more that the most vulnerable people often chose to rely on the thrust as weaponry changed.

>>33400963
Anon, I...
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/unleashed/2009/05/crows-are-smart.html

>>33404765
Fuck that old man is badass. Makes sense. With adrenaline running a gross motor move like that would work much better than precise bullshit like slitting s throat

>>33404915
Dex won. Str got a cheap shot in as he was dying

>>33400772
>>33400773
Wet spaghetti + funnel = my Sunday dinner.

>>33399938
What if I cooked in a soup of deadly bacteria?

>>33401120
Hello Styx

So you thought that wouldn't kill someone because #leColdSteelMeme?

>>33411729
If you didn't have to throw it then you wouldn't you fucking idiot

>>33411924
The smallsword was the glock of its time: light, easy to obtain and carry, and mostly carried just because it could be. Most people who carried one did so with no expectation of having to use it, as by that time crime was reaching an all time low. Even though they weren't particularly useful, they were useful enough for a generally peaceful, civilized society. By contrast, every culture violent enough to consider a sword or other weapon a necessity rather than an ornament chose something heavier and with a usable edge.

>>33400382
one of my older sister's dogs died of lung cancer

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>>33413541
Considering they basically steamrolled almost all other contemporary infantry in pitched battle using short swords, that makes you the fucking idiot here. I'm pretty sure they knew what they were doing a lot more than you, princess.