Battle Rifle General

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Century FAL best FAL

>tilting bolt

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>No legal FALs or FAL derivatives in Leafland

>>33389546
Is this:
https://www.hkparts.net/shop/pc/HK-G3-HK-91-PTR-Parts-Kit-CHF-Barrel-ON-SALE-126p16573.htm
+ a finished receiver all I need to build a PTR91/G3?

>>33390144
It'll probably be easier to buy a built one

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Stgw 57 4 life.

>>33392290
Uggo as fug

>>33389571
Looks good. how does it shoot?

>>33390069
You have superior SG 542s though.

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>>33389571
>bipod

Stg.58 ?

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How do we make /brg/ great again?

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>>33392290
delet this

>>33393672
Keep threads alive

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>>33393890
This

Should the scar be mine main survival rifle? I live in a city and its heavily wooded outside the city. Rains a lot here and is humid all through summer.

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>>33393672
more short shorts

What kind of paint should i use to make rhodie camo?

>>33394347

>wood furniture
>t swift phone case

9/10 would operate with if you had more chest hair

>>33393672
I know semi auto is pretty god tier for Battle rifles but by repealing the hughes amendment/NFA we can make /brg/ great again.....just saying

What're the chances someone is selling an FAL?

>>33394745
What are you looking to pay?

>>33393629
L1A1
Doesn't have the barrel notches, put it on anyway because who cares
>>33393509
It blasts dirt okay. Never shot for accuracy.

>>33394807
Somewhere around 1k

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can i AR10post in here

>>33394458
>tfw buttstock is broken and cant mount to back plate so i have to use green g3 furniture

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>>33394875
I might sell my century for 850 if your interested.

>>33395136
I am interested. You have some contact info?

>>33395147
Hit me up at this email

>>33394915
Yes

>>33394293
Works

>>33394915
yes

>>33389546
I hear people say that DSA's FALs a shit, who makes the best FALs?

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Just put cash down on this yesterday, should be putting the last down and bringing it home in about a week and a half

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>>33395415
sry for pic quality

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So I bought my receiver set for my AR10 from Matrix Arms.

Can I build a good rifle for about $1500?

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>>33395415
>>33395460
Ewww

>>33395538
felt comfy to me

How much are those century FALs worth nowadays?

>>33395531
Can't you build a good rifle for less?
Top notch stock - $250
Top notch barrel - $3-400
Top notch trigger - $200
Free float handguard - $200
All the other shit can be found relatively cheap and doesn't affect accuracy that much. I also listed approximate prices not on sale, and it depends on what grade barrel you want. Obviously a match grade barrel will cost more, but for a "battle rifle" do you really need that?

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>>33389546
ears were burning

>>33390069
fuck canada

>>33393890
but you guys didnt want me to post

>>33394293
yes

>>33394347
nice cetme front end

>>33395531
you got gypped

>>33395319
>Makes
DSA

>Made
LMT made, DSA marked

Considering selling my STG-58 build to fund other guns I'll actually shoot please talk me out of it

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>>33394293
SCAR is best rifle ever (finally got an optic on it btw)

>>33395650
Sell your FA(i)L and buy a scar

>>33395747
Eww, ACOG

>>33395770
Its gr8 m8

>>33396106
Fixed magnification
Mid tier glass
Non adjustable illumination
Uninspired reticles

>>33395650
metal handguards are worst handguards
sell it and buy a SCAR

What do you lads think about the new DSA FALs? Do they shoot okay? Worth $1k US?
I got the 7.62 itch but I don't think I want to drop 1.5k on a "real" one; I'm more of a shooter than a collector and the historical value of a proper FAL isn't very valuable to me.
Is it preferable to something like a PTR or AR10? A new PTR is ~$100 cheaper but people here don't seem to like them.

>>33395628
Post lewds

>>33397154
>I don't think I want to drop 1.5k on a "real" one
Think you hit the period key by accident there, pal.
No-bullshit FN guns are $$$$$.
http://www.simpsonltd.com/product_info.php?products_id=51951

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>>33395628
Thanks. It is a cetme so I guess having a cetme front end makes sense.

>>33397154
DSAs are overpriced for what they are, but they work and are a slightly more straightforward path from money to shootable gun than buying a parts kit and mailing it to Arizona to have a guy rebuild it for you, let alone doing it yourself.

>>33397211
You do a lot of prone shooting with that RPG?

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>>33397235
I actually sold the bipod for like $150. Sometimes I wish I had it to take cool heavy bipod weapons photos with my RPK and my friends DPM, but whatever

Is the dsa sga 58 any worth?

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>>33389546
Why can't we be friends?

>>33396652
I like. I was debating either an MVP or Lr308. Went Lr308. Now I want an MVP too

Could someone recommend an optic for a ptr91 with a welded rail? I dont really want to put a full sized scope on it, also dont want to break the bank.

>>33397313
Sorry, it didn't occur to me until after I'd already sassed you about it that that bipod was probably a legit RPG thing and not something you just threw on to be all tactical and shit.
I guess I'm just too accustomed to AR people misguidedly sticking bipods on """pistols""" and guns without magnified optics.

Can we Mas 49/56 post here?

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>>33397460
>tactical RPG

The A2 pistol grip makes me why every time

>>33397507
>why
Because the Airtronics RPG was designed to fit into NATO supply chains, which means M4 furniture and railz and railz and railz and bacon strips and black plastic and

>>33389546
where do you guys get you type A selectors for FALs? Do you grind the tooth off the type C? do you have a source? Parts kits?

>>33390005
Tilting bolt ain't too bad. Just Inferior to multilug rotating design.

I don't begrudge my sks

>>33394165
What kind of FAL is that?

So PTR 91s are made with used surplus parts?

Here in Belgium you can get British FALs (L1A1) for around €600.

Are they good quality or should I opt for an original FN one (more rare and expensive though, even here)?

>>33397313

Based

I have an FAL with STG 58 furniture.

I want to get one of those long SA stocks because I think it would be more comfortable.

What else do I need to get to have it matching? Just handguard and flash hider? Or do I need a new grip as well?

>>33399649
No. CNC'd based on the original tooling, which they used to use.

>>33399745
http://ptr91.com/products/PTR%20G.I.?id=23
This seems to say otherwise

So do the DSA Voyagers have any legitimate issues or is it really just gripes about the aluminum receiver and fit and finish?

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>>33399218
Just a basic DSA SA-58

>>33399775
The only things that's saying are surplus parts are the trigger housing and the furniture.

>>33399775
The GI is the only model where PTR uses a few surplus parts and furniture to lower overall costs of the rifle.

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sorry to invade /falg/

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>>33400443
Nice

>>33398347
>being ok with an inferior system

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>>33389546
What about L1A1 SLR?

>>33400859
That short barrel makes my pp hard

>>33400910
Metric FAL best FAL

>own only old as fuck world war bolt action rifles
>want something high capacity with cheap ammo
>don't want AK or ar

What get?

>>33401280
Mini 14

>>33401286
Forgot to say I don't want one of those either

>>33400910
I love British handguards

>>33401280
PKM

>>33390069

Pls gib cheap Norinco M1A and SKS nao

>>33401188
Thanks. Just got it from a local pawn shop for 250.

>>33401314
>slav guns

Vomit.jpg

>>33400731
Is that MAS 7.5 or 7.62?

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>>33401387
762 converted. Luckily not one of the disaster conversions.

>>33394347
I like you a lot

>>33392290

[envy intensifies]

You suck. Really.

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>>33395628
That fal looks so small... especially when you hold it. I always thought you were a little twink bitch but when I saw you at NF I was surprised to find out you are actually super alpha and could have kicked everyone's ass that was there

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>>33395628

Does your Suzuki have room for a passenger?

Can I get a decent fal for $1000. I don't really know a lot about them other than it's the next gun I want that I might be able to find

>>33400485
>>33400723
Looking closely it seems to just be the furniture, would it even be possible to have the trigger housing be surplus as the PTR uses the US legal "shelf" design vs the HK "3rd pin" design?

>>33395628
>fuck canada
fuck you too eh

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>>33394347
>tfw i was too late on the rhodie short shorts

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MD will eventually be replaced by combo

R8

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>>33401280
FAARU

>>33395747
>UTG rail covers
pig disgusting

>>33402777
Spicy gun tell me more

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>>33402903
its a picture of s nice gun that I DL'd and sometimes masturbate with bacon grease to

>>33397154
people are fucking memeing and /k/ generally hates anything regarded as cheap.

PTR91's in their current form are a phenomenal value

>>33402763
Magpul/10

>>33402801
Its nice and comfy

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>>33402777
>wood furniture on FAL

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>>33402660
>would it even be possible to have the trigger housing be surplus as the PTR uses the US legal "shelf" design vs the HK "3rd pin" design?
Yes, all the steel lowers PTR uses are converted surplus. They machine the front of the lower off and weld in the semi-shelf.

why don't they make a modern modular ptr, with quadrails and shit

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>>33404640
They do.

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>>33404640
>modern
>quadrails
choose one

>>33395747
So are FAL rated optics a meme or is it in lyrics relevant on automatic fire?

>>33406640
SCAR I'm drunk sorry.

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>>33406699
Idk I hear vortex tier and lower optics aren't good for SCARs. I got an ACOG cuz I dont plan on shooting to 600+ yds with it, mainly 100-300yds

>>33406699
Seen SCARs break a few vortex and Bushnell.
They abhor poorfag optics, break them.

>What does it mean?
>What does it meme?

>>33407980
if you can't afford optics on your 3200 gun you need to figure out why you are buying a 3200 gun

>>33406978
decision is fine
id get 1 of the rail extensions tho

>>33410110
Budgets run out.

>>33400873
>Not accepting a design for what it is and being autistic about it.
Grow up

>>33409159
Memes are a hyperinflated currency we no longer use

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>>33411021
yes

>>33410261
>not demanding maximum performance.

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>>33411737
>not wanting to appreciate the mechanics behind different firearms
Pic related is ranked best to worst on the bottom

Just getting into firearms. Are SCARs really that great? Why?

>>33411981
>Are SCARs really that great? Why?

Wafflejew spacemagic.

>>33411981
Highest evolution of modern firearms to date

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>>33411981
They're a greatest hits album of firearms technology specced out by and for the most elite operators in the world.

>>33411981
They feel pretty nice. That's about it.
Not $3000 nice, but nice.

>>33412242
>Not $3000 nice

+ $325 trigger upgrade
+ $300 stock replacement
+ $1000 scope (if you don't cheap out and get a shit one)

I'll stick to my "poorfag" PTR so I can actually afford to get a nice scope for it

>>33412274
And I'll stick to my $485 308 mas 49/56.

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>>33402939
Plus mags and parts are dirt cheap.

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What does /brg/ think of 308 VEPR?

I am considering a purchase. Could I also get a Monte Carlo stock for it? How expensive are magazines?

>>33412318
IIRC VEPRs use proprietary parts for their AK pattern guns, so could have problems getting replacement parts

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>>33412406
My 556 vepr bolt/carrier swaps perfectly with my bulgy 74.
And I don't own a full caliber vepr, but their bolt carriers look identical to regular ak carriers.

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>>33412406
>>33412465

I should add that I am really unfamiliar with AK pattern anything, but am intrigued by the idea of the legendary AK SHTF reliability combined with the big cartridge and reasonable price.

>>33412575
If price is your primary concern get a PTR. The savings in mags alone will make it the most cost effective option. Parts are cheaper, and they will be just as reliable with cheap ammo.

>>33412318
The workmanship on the stock is pretty poor, so I wouldn't go for a super if that's your main appeal.

>>33392290
I just happen to be watching this video right now.

>really want either a FAL or G3/Cetme clone to paint Rhodie meme camo
>The G3/Cetme clone (a PTR 91 GI classic) is better and more affordable in every way to any entry level FAL
>just can't stand those HK drum sights and replacing them would be wrong
FUCK

>>33415248
Stick an optic on it and you won't have to concern yourself with the sights.
https://www.hkparts.net/shop/pc/Hensoldt-Z-24-Optic-Kit-W-Factory-HK-Claw-Mount-118p878.htm

>>33415427
I could do that I guess, do those hold zero well?

>>33415503
Yea, if you dont get a shitty optic

Need help, fellow FAL owners!

I recently bought an SAR-48 and it was unable to cycle properly even with the gas vent at the top completely closed. I cleaned up everything (piston literally looks like it's never been used), and there are no obstructions in the gas tube. Whenever I would fire it on the "Grenade" setting, the hammer would not be pushed back and the bolt would become A LOT harder to pull back, and when I set it to the "Rifle" setting, it seems to push the hammer back down but it does not cycle the bolt back far enough to eject the round. The BHO does not work automatically, but if I manually pull it back and push the little bolt release lever up, it'll lock back. Furthermore, when the rifle is closed up, it seems to take a fair bit of force to cycle the bolt back with the charging handle, but the bolt carrier rides smooth as a whistle when I pop the rifle open for disassembly. I only tested it with .308 Tula, so perhaps it's the ammo? Will provide pics if this issue doesn't sound like simple user error

>>33416699
Sounds like you're just limp-wristing, try to maintain a firm, tight body position when firing.

>>33416806
I don't mean that it's too hard for me to cycle, I just mean that, compared to every other gun I've shot, it feels a whole lot stiffer to cycle, and when a round was fired and did not extract, I had to bang the charging handle back with the palm of my hand due to it being MUCH harder to cycle back. Limp-wristed or not, these gas-related cycling issues persist

>>33411737
>only owning one battle rifle because you are stupid

>>33417444
This

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>>33402730
this feel

hey guys, I'm having some issues with my CETME not ejecting properly. Yeah, yeah, I know, I should have just got a PTR, but this is what I have now and I need some advice on fixing what I have now.

It will strip a cartridge and chamber it just fine. After a single shot though, the CETME will retain the spent casing in the bolt assembly (I think that's what it's called), or sometimes even flip it around and try to chamber it from the spent primer side, and the ejector (I think) doesn't rise up far enough to kick it out. I'm not very gun-parts literate yet.

Can anyone with experience with G3 models help me diagnose and fix this issue?

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>>33419362
forgot pic

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>>33419374
>>33419362

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>>33419393
Here's a picture of the trigger group thing. The arrows point to some things that I would think might be a part of the problem. The ejector looking thing as well as a few plates around it have a matching hole that looks like a fastener hole. Should something be there? Nothing was when I opened up the gun.

What about the spring that gives some tension to the whole thing, does this need replacing?

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Is this optic too high? I get a good cheek weld.

>>33419435
What does "E" stand for?

>>33419499
Single shot, einz-something

>>33419521
Then what's F?

>>33419499
It's a surplus lower that I bought from RTG. Clipped and pinned.

The S means safe, E means single, F is automatic. Mine is semi only.

http://www.hkpro.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=129:the-trigger-groups&catid=4:special-topics&Itemid=5

>>33419530
Falafel

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>>33389546
ITT
>poorfags with pauper tier PTR91s
>poorfags with DSA Voyagers

Don't mind me, SCAR masterrace coming through

>>33419571
Ugly as all sin.

>>33419571
Not only did you buy a SCAR in worst color, but your barcode is still on.

Operator status: 0/10

>>33419571
>Black scar
Man for as much money as you supposedly have you'd think you would be able to buy better tastes.

>>33419419
yes, what goes there is the lever that extends to the flemming sear, if I recall correctly (take it with a grain of salt, I haven't looked at an HK in a while)

Battle rifle in 6.5 creedmore/.260 Remington when?

>>33419949
15 years ago

>>33419499
Einzelfeuer (semi-automatic)

>>33419530
Feuerstoß (full auto)
You'll also sometimes see D for "Dauerstoß" (full auto)

>>33419571
How do you like the SpecterTR?

>>33392290
put the scar at the bottom of that list and its right.

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Are M14A1 pistol grip stocks hard to find?

>>33396652
>stainless barrel
Loaded? NM? How easy is it for the scope to stay zeroed? What sort of accuracy do you get out of that?

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>>33417444
>not owning just the best battle rifle

>>33401291
>high capacity with cheap ammo
10/22
AR
AK
VZ58
Mini-14 family
FNC if you can get one in semi-auto
AUG
Tavor / x95
Chinkshit bullpup if you're in Canada
Lelkek RDB
FS2000
(arguably) PS90 if you buy 5.7x28 in bulk

>>33419435
Why would it be too high?

>>33389546
Battle rifles are a meme

There's a reason modern militaries don't use full-size rifle cartridges as infantry rifles

>Tests showed the .223 Remington cartridge fired from the AR-15 allowed an 8-soldier unit to outgun an 11-soldier unit armed with M14s at ranges closer than 300 meters. U.S. troops were able to carry more than twice as much .223 Remington ammunition as 7.62×51mm NATO for the same weight, which allowed them an advantage against a typical NVA unit armed with Type 56-1s.

If you're shooting at a range that would demand .308, you should be using a bolt gun anyway.

>>33419949
Fulton armory just released their 6.5 M1a

>>33422118
So a modern AR 15 design refined over decades to excel at the exact test you're describing is better than a 60 year old update on an even older design? Color me shocked.

None of this really applies to civilians at all and if your operator fantasies ever came to reality you'd be dead in about 45 seconds with a civlian AR or an M1A outside of a squad setting.

>>33389546
Is it practical to make your own FAL these days? It seems like the cost of a parts kit and receiver makes it not worth it desu.

>>33419571
>external adjustments
No thank you, I'll keep my Nightforce.

>>33422214
>wanting a tilting bolt gun

>>33422191
Then why is there such a thing as /brg/? Why am I the one with operator fantasies when you fags are memeing a weapon role that doesn't even really exist anymore?

>>33422229
It's really that bad? Serious, considering FAL or just assembling an AR-10

>>33422291
Well no not really, it's just that tilting bolt is inherently worse than a rotating bolt.

>>33422302
I see. I'll probably go with a budget AR-10 then. I see there's not much point in battle raifus anymore as that other anon said. I guess I'll just get a .308 bolt gun for sniping.

>>33419669
>>33419712
Why the hate for a black SCAR? I'm generally not a fan of FDE guns, particularly because I live in a heavily forested area. If I bought one it would be black

>>33422399
bc it looks un-A E S T H E T I C

>>33422276
Why are you under the impression that performance is the only reason to own a gun?

What is /brg/'s opinion on steel case 308?

>>33422528
Not that guy but yeah pretty much I would say.

>>33422552
Cheap

>>33422118
>>33422276
As >>33422528 said, but also remember that battle doctrine matters. Your test listed in your first post is US vs US, which the US doctrine is very much about suppressive fire and utilization of exterior support, whether air, artillery or otherwise. The M16 is more an immediate "oh fuck they're close by" defense, which your listed test also says "[...] at ranges closer than 300meters."

This does not mean it wins every engagement. It means that, color me shocked... a gun that has an effective range up to that which can be fired full auto (most cannot use the M14's full auto effectively), has a lot of munitions, operated by those trained in a doctrine that does not emphasize marksmanship and is in effective range holds better than a gun that is not designed around that exact combat scenario held by people not as heavily trained in said focus. As >>33422191 said, it's a modern design refined over decades, which excels at a particular test that it would be designed to excel at, is better than a gun that was no longer rapidly refined/updated as heavily. What you listed is not shocking, merely common sense.

Some of us do not live in urban areas, and have lots of open land. There's a reason that despite adaptation of 5.56 in many nations, others used 7.62 or in Swiss-land's case, 6.5x55 because they need the range across mountains.

Some guns perform better in circumstances to others... who knew?
Also, as stated: A E S T H E T I C S

>>33422552
It's cheap enough that I don't feel bad about running it through my modern funs, I figure if it really is destroying the internals like the "brass can't damage steel parts" conspiracy theorists would have us believe, I'll just use the money I saved over those thousands of rounds to buy replacement parts.
Obviously if I want to shoot for accuracy I'll use higher quality ammo which is by default going to be brass cased.

>>33422713
If your not shooting for accuracy, what are you shooting for?

>>33422749
For fun? For practice?

>>33422771
Accuracy isn't a part of that?

>>33422749
...
for fun

>>33422789
>that was fun, these groups are a little wide though, good thing I got to make twice as many of them with my cheap steel case

>these fags don't handload

>>33422827
>collecting brass that my rifle spewed all across the desert
Reloading if you're a rangefag or using a boltgun is one thing, in this situation I just don't think it's worth the effort.

>>33422789
Which is a higher priority in practice, higher ammo count, or a few centimeters smaller grouping?

>>33422911
Removing the variables that shit ammo produces leaves just the variables by your rifle and you.

This is quality training

>>33422827
>>33422888
Could always collect the brass and mass-salvage/recycle it rather than reload. Get something at least, and don't have to fuddle with reloading it.

>>33422927
But in exchange you sacrifice the amount of ammunition you can afford to buy, one can become a good shooter even if your gun+ammo combo doesn't provide the tightest groupings around, i'd say that the actual amount of practice is more important.

>>33422965
Volume of fire will help with some aspects of training. Accuracy of fire assists with others. Having both...

>>33422399
>implying black will blend better than FDE in forest

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>>33392290

Noguns Swede here. I lurk these threads about once a month and I just wanted to drop in and say that you guys are true patricians. Keep up the good work.

>>33423255
Get a surplus Mauser if you can. 6.5x55 is neat.

>>33419419
dissasemble the trigger group and look further

to do it move the safety pin above S and pull it out. then you can remove the entire "mechanic" block

>>33422399
Where do you live?
I'm intrigued by the idea of a forest where the dirt and tree trunks are black, rather than brown like they are in most of the world.
Post pics.

>>33424261
He's from the...
Black Forest

>>33424283
damn thats a nice set up whats the range on that staple gun?

>>33389546
I've always heard that AR10s have a lot of problems and don't run very well. Is that true or just a meme?

>>33424283
What are you using for a dope bag?

>>33424304
If it's a shitty AR10 it may run like shit. Get a decent one and your fine

>>33389546
Hey I just bought a DSA Voyager 18" and the trigger is like 12 pounds and rough. Is there any good parts kits or drop ins i can buy?

>>33424488
FAL triggers suck, sorry
maybe ask Geissele or his wife to look into it in their spare time
#SHOT2018wishlist

>Can get new SCAR for under $3k through work
>Leaving job in a few months and won't get access to discount anymore
>No ranges over 100 yards nearby
>Don't hunt
>Don't plan to accessorize it with tacticool things like NV or a suppressor

Is the SCAR worth it? Honestly don't know if I like it that much but the price seems too good to pass up

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>>33424987
Stick an Aimpoint on it and use it for HD, it'll be great.
Also, you shoud hunt; venison is delicious and it's a great excuse to go innawoods.

>>33425020
>16" .308 with muzzle brake
>HD

>>33425106
Swap the brake out for a flash hider (get a Surefire warcomp) and keep some electronic earpro on your nightstand.

>>33425106
>HDEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>33424933
>>33424488
http://www.jardinc.com/fal-metric/

>>33425140
Warcomp causes accuracy issues.

>>33425569
>Warcomp causes accuracy issues.
That was just the first batch, wasn't it?

>>33404640
Because a PTR is for those cold war / African warlord feels. If you want to be a tacticool faggot then get a scar or AR 10

>>33397313

is that shit real?

>>33425733
No way, those are obviously just wooden blocks dressed up and painted to look like real bakes.

>>33421873
Originals are.

>>33422118
I get this, but still love my N6.

>>33425747

im taking about the rpg faggot

>>33412274

>+ $1000 scope (if you don't cheap out and get a shit one)

Most of the scopes you should be putting on a 17s start at around $1900.

>>33424987

Pick it up. FN doesn't give a single shit about bringing more in or lowering the price on them anyway, so it's not like you're going to get a better deal on them later on.

>>33426150
Accupoint 1-6 is $1200 and totally fine if you're not going to spend a lot of time proned out.

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>>33424987
You can probably pick one up for under $3k if you look around. I bought mine right before the pulse shooting for $2700 OTD. Its a fun gun to have so if it wont put you in a bind, I'd recommend ot for the chance you move to somewhere that does have a longer rifle range

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>>33426301
>totally fine
Well, adequate

>>33404640
>Quadrail
>on a G3/CETME design

think about it nigger

>>33426727
Three rails on the handguard, one welded all along the top of the cocking tube and receiver
not seeing the problem here

>>33426865
http://www.spuhr.biz/hk-g3-upgrades

>>33424320
Any suggestion on good AR10s that run well?

Should I build one? Would I be able to get a better gun for cheaper that way?

>>33426889
Depends on the budget.
Building will save you money to build, but rape you on resale if that is a concern. If you do build, buy the upper and lower as a matched set.

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my Chicom girl with boyds stock and Vortex 1-4x

>>33426989
Chunky monkey

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>>33426887
Yeah, but what if I want to use a clip-on night vision device in front of my day optic?

On a different note, apparently Spuhr makes a HK417 lower that takes SR25 mags and has rails on the magwell.
Are those available/importable/legal in the US?

>>33427068
Then youve chosen the wrong rifle.

importable? yes
I doubt hakken will though

>>33426928
Budget would probably be around $2000 for the rifle alone

>>33425569
Is there any guides on how to install im kinda mechanically retarded ?

>>33425569
>Warcomp causes accuracy issues
[citation needed]

>>33428308
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_16_4/4018_.html

>>33422118
>Battle rifles are a meme
>meme
Way to ensure nobody takes you seriously from the start.

>>33422276
>lol designated marksmen don't exist only snipers.
>Why would I ever want to make follow up shots?

You know there is a place in between extra long range and short range, right?
Like I understand using a BR without teammates is stupid but just straight up saying that semi-auto .308s have no place is just shortsighted. There's a good reason they've been issuing marksman rifles in Afghanistan to the point they were so desperate they pulled M14s back out of mothballs at one point.

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>>33422276
>a weapon role that doesn't even really exist anymore?
Are you implying that nobody in the world uses a .30cal semi-auto anymore?

>>33426865
>one welded all along the top of the cocking tube and receiver
>not seeing the problem here

Having rails on 9 and 12 will make the cocking handle harder to get at even before adding accessories (which if you don't, it defeats the point of having the rails in the first place. Rails on 3 and 6 are the only ones that sort of make sense.

>>33428709
>.5 MOA precision degradation with one specific warcomp on one specific rifle
>no claims of accuracy problems with other warcomps or even with that particular warcomp on other rifles
itsfuckingnothing.gif

PTR 91 or Century Arms C91? Which is best?

>>33431199
Neither

>>33416699
Is this bait?

I searched and didn't find it as copypasta anywhere so just in case it isn't:

>only tested it with .308 Tula

Don't shoot steelcase in a FAL.

>would fire it on the "Grenade" setting, the hammer would not be pushed back

Wow its almost like when the gas plug is set to grenade it doesn't cycle the bolt or something.

From the rest of it I would guess there is something going on with the gas piston, have a look where there is fouling to get an idea of what the gas is doing. Is the piston bent or weak?

The bolt being hard to work is an important clue and I think I have read about someone having a similar issue but I don't remember what the problem nor solution was off the top of my head.

It also could be an out of spec receiver but this seems less likely.

>>33416806
A functioning FAL can be hipfired and still cycle reliably. If a closed gas setting is only resetting the hammer and not ejecting he has a mechanical problem.

>>33431383
Whoops forgot to say

Try it with not steel case ammo before anything else. It may well solve the issue.

>>33431199
PTR

>>33431307
Better than FA(i)L

>>33432059
IDK. PTR, FAL, M14, etc.
All pretty old and shitty designs. Trying to say one old crappy rifle is better than a differently crappy and old rifle is extremely subjective.

so i've got my adjustment tool in the rear sight of my ptr, but i can't get it to turn. any idea what i'm doing wrong? i get the lottle prongs in the slots, i stick the screwdriver in to press the detents in, and it just doesn't wanna budge.

>>33392290
w-where is m14 chan

>>33424283
>polymer stock

ree

>>33432586
In the garbage.

>>33432900
More of a fiberglass fan?

I'm about to dip out of the AK game and trade for an FAL.

Where can I get wood furniture for it?

>>33432900
I use my M1A, swelling and damage are serious concerns I have with wooden stocks

>>33434971
How nice do you want it?

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>>33432074
All the legacy battle rifles are pretty shit, but some of them are more shit than others.

>>33435458
Enviously nice.

>>33436262
I found the scar fanboy.

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>>33436584
Ironwood Designs is nice, shame about their website though

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>>33436602
I'm not going to apologize because I said nothing wrong.

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>>33419419
I have the same problem with my cetme bud. That little spring is sprung and causes a fuck ton of ejection issues. Get a new spring you'll be fine.

The issue I have with my spring being fucked is that the ejector will not go into the recess to eject the round. Pic showing that

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Brand new FAL owner reporting.

>>33401320
Stop using M1A to refer to all M14s.

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>>33436865
This is my problem and it only happens about once every 10 rounds do it if not as severe as yours

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>>33436895
The solution to my problem is to get a new spring. The solution to yours is to get a new pin. They fall out very easily. I'll show you start it looks like

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>>33436933
Here is that pin I mentioned, that you seem to be missing.

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I just got this thing and I feel like it may become my new favorite gun.

Can anyone tell me is DSA is metric or inch patern? I'm new to the FAL world.

Someone please come hold my hand...

>>33437638
Metric

>>33436879
How you like her?

>>33437688
hail Hitler dubs of truth.

>>33395319
I asked Karl from forgotten weapons this. He told me if you can get a rifle from gun plumber. If you can't get one from DSA

>>33436879
DSA? Forged or Cast?

Sakuya is the best I wanna suck his dick

>>33438005
I love it desu.

I traded my other AK for it, and it just feels more sturdy and powerful.

>>33439669
Who the fuck is this trip you faggots keep posting about...

>>33438322
I have no idea.
>you are scaring me now...

>>33436879
Take the retarded rail off and put a paratrooper stock on it

>>33439999
Those quads....

yea I thought about that rail....

I'm going to put wood on it tho.

>>33439973
Don't worry about it; you'll never shoot enough .308 for it to matter.

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>>33440017
¿Por qué no los dos?

>>33440065
Oh god that's sexy too hnnnnggg.

Where get paratrooper stock?

>>33440024
idk man I got it in trade.

How would I tell if it's cast?

>really want either a FAL or G3/Cetme clone to paint Rhodie meme camo
>The G3/Cetme clone (a PTR 91 GI classic) is better and more affordable in every way to any entry level FAL
>just can't stand those HK drum sights and replacing them would be wrong
SHIT

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>>33440259
get one with a rail and replace the sights with a 30mm Aimpoint

>>33440279
No thanks

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>>33440259
Out of curiosity, what don't you like about the sights? The 100 setting I can kind of get but the 200-400 work pretty much the same as any other aperture sight.

>>33440217
New DSAs are all cast, they switched from forged a while back. If it's relatively new, it's probably cast. You can probably find the serial numbers on falfiles if you really care.

Not that it fucking matters.

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>>33440259
>yfw rhodesians were destined to be cucked by the coons

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>>33440518

>>33440384
He said it was pre-voyager or something. And it's a 16in.

>>33440259
What do you not like about the drum sight? I'm not trying to argue, I've never used one but I'm considering buying a PTR and I want to know what's wrong with them.

>>33422092

As much as I love multi lug rotating bolts, you need to shut your pie hole. Variety is the spice of life and there's a reason that not everyone buys Glocks or AR pattern rifles. Hell, roller delayed blowback is an inferior system but I still like it because it's different and actually interesting.

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>>33440544
Not that guy but many people don't like the 100 setting which is an open notch and just zero the rifle using the 200m aperture setting. I'm not sure why people wouldn't like the peep sights though.

IT'S FORGED!!! <3

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>>33422092
>implying pic related isnt the best battle rifle

>>33440210
DSA sells them. You'd also need a new lower, dustcover, recoil springs and bolt carrier. I think the receiver needs modifiacation. It's harder than these anons make it seem. I wouldn't bother if I were you. But it's your rifle.

https://www.dsarms.com/p-12747-fal-sa58-para-conversion-kit-includes-stock-lower-trigger-frame-para-carrier-nose-para-top-cover-springs-and-para-sight.aspx

>>33395594
If you pay more than $700~800 unless theres a ton of add ons like mags and shit or its got an imbel receivdr you're a fool.

>>33440759
You don't need to modify the receiver.

>>33440759
Fuuuuck that shit, I'll build a new rifle from a kit for that.

So all wood battle riafu it is!

>>33440640
Both of you are wrong.

FAL is best battle rifle.

>>33411737
>Not being able to afford guns for the memes they are

New thread:
>>33440958
>>33440958
>>33440958

>>33412299
Oh my lort, maybe that shit you have on yours. Wide handguards can be a bitch to find, the bipods are expenaive as fuck cheapest being $80 which isnt that bad in the grand scheme of things but is probably a lot for you, im guessing you're advising fags to use utg scope mounts and shit. The only thing you have going for you is cheap mags. All of which are not 100% functional, what with being beat up surplus and all.

>>33413004
What parts? Do you speak of? The trigger housing? Oh can he do an ak style swap like the tapco g2 trigger? Or the alg? Hmmm

>>33415427
Lmfao at people who keep saying ptr parts are cheaper el oh el

>>33422229
>1911's are shit

>>33422552
The more you shoot the bwtter you get, the cheaper the bullet the more you can buy the more you can shoot. Though some people are content to just arrange their rifles in hipster fashion take pictures and shitpost on himalayan basket weaving forums.

>>33422965
Im going for torso sized targets, I frankly don't care too much if my groups are a little wide as long as they all hit the steel target.

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>>33440544
Its entirely a matter of preference. Dont sweat it, they dont bother me at all. The 100 is shitty because its meant for CQC and night shooting. Just zero the 2 setting @ 100 meters and youre good.

>>33439999
Its not that easy retard, going from regular to folding stock needs a whole new lower amongst other things.

>>33441451
>implying they aren't

>>33441558
What if the torso sized target is at 600 meters?