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South African Civil War

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Not here to discuss the politics of this. I'm interested on hearing how we can get in on this once it goes hot. It could be our generation's Rhodesian Bush War.
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Cape War of Independence soon...
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>>33374490
Could try and get a working visa to go over there now then just hang out

Non-citizens are actually allowed to bring guns into the country if they fit certain standards and you get an import from them and an export from home
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>>33374490

What happens to the mercenaries and /pol/acks who fly to South Africa only to lose a racial civil war with little support from the international community?

You don't think you'll just fly back, do you?
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>>33374507
Do you think it could be similar to the Rhodesian bush war where they are looking for mercenaries to help them fight?
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>>33374524
Go to Namibia, lots of Afrikaners there too
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>>33374524
At the moment I'd assume it would be like fighting with the Kurds in Iraq or Syria. It's completely legal, but frowned upon. You just can't be getting paid to fight.
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>>33374490
>rescuing a bunch of whites who think the kaffir are in the right
Pass.
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>>33374558
But anon think about all the short shorts and FALs you could enjoy.
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>>33374558
>not wanting to slot floppies in shorts and hats with 7.62 REAL FUCKING NATO

How many miles of dick have traveled through your rectum?
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>>33374532
Vastly outnumbered whites farmers suffering government persecution and receiving no external aid in a war over the land they and their ancestors turned from a tribal shithole which no black wanted into arable and vibrant farmland which suddenly the blacks all want now

Yeah I think they'll want help for the exact same thing that happened forty years ago
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>>33374631
Speaking of rounds, do they make a FAL in .308?
I was thinking some sort of .308 fullauto/semi long arm with +P rounds would put down pretty much any kaffir with a thick skull

Like their durable bodies from thousands of years of violent evolution is exactly why the Mozambique Drill was created
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Honestly this would be a pretty easy war. No real enemy hiding within issue. May be able to get easy backing from CIA or Russia.
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>>33374694
No it wont
Can you imagine the political pressure for all these cuck nations to send their army to help the poor innocent black genocidaires?
Sweden would offer up their army for any sexual emergencies the blacks were having and Israel would tell the USA to go kill whitey.

Additionally, blacks from further north in Africa would just wander down to assist because they all love a good rape, pillage and murder and borders don't mean shit to sub-saharan africans
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>>33374775
>Africans
>having enough food to make it more than three miles without dying of starvation and exhaustion
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>>33374802
They can run pretty fast despite starvation
They're too stupid to feel pain or exhaustion
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>>33374813
Why do you think "zombie" prepping has been such a big thing in the last decade?
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>>33374833
Yeah among Afrikaner zombie and ghoul are just another word for blacks but most zombie portrayals don't use fuckin guns or vehicles of war

I'm pretty sure there's more technicals on the bottom half of Africa than in all the Middle East
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>>33374775
Israelis would secretly sell arms to the boere me thinks. Let's hope they do because we'd need some decent tech to fight the murderous kaffirs.
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>>33375595
Yeah the Israelis were pretty much the last country to do business with Rhodesia.

I'm sure they were jewing them in some capacity for some alterior motive but they and theYugoslavs were Rhodesia's best friends.
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>>33374775
? Um, Israel supported the various apartheid govs during the Cold War.
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>>33375748
Wasn't Portugal one of the few countries helping them?

Tbh if shit goes shout I just hope the white people will come to their forefathers fatherland.
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>>33375748
? Yugoslavia was non-aligned, they hated the fact that USSR and co were getting involved, because then it would give the USSR to get involved in their country
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>>33374490
>inb4 gay mods delete a good thread

Last one I saw OP asked about how /k/ would go about winning this war for the boers but I'm guessing the mods won't delete this if we fellate the niggers who will try to genocide the white farmers.
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>>33374553
At what pay level would it worth it for you to go?

I'd fight for $80k/year
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>>33376225
Not really in it for profit. I'd be happy to have them cover the funds for my equipment.
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>>33375872
All I know is that it was really popular for Yugoslavs to fly/sail down there, sell shit, and leave without getting their passports stamped.

Don't have any mor info than that. It's why all the motorcycles you see in the later pictures are Jawas.
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>>33375849
Portugal was a friend until their colonies fell. Then they just said fuck Africa, which is a sentiment anyone who knows the place would share.
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>>33376225

I'm sure they will pay some /k/ neckbeard more than double what US combat troops get paid in a year.
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>>33376225
Myself, I would accept 60k usd with agreement of free land and citizenship on completion. More than happy to bring my own gear.
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>>33376554
Oh, cars, trucks and shit like that they sold to everybody, military and civilian but that was about it.
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>>33374682
>do they make a FAL in .308?

Get. The. Fuck. Out.
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>>33374490

It's not going to get hot, at least not now.

For the uninitiated, our President said something stupid during his Presidential address a few weeks ago (that white land would be taken without compensation) and /pol/ is taking it way too seriously. Here's the thing: Zuma is probably senile and his entire ANC party is coming unglued due to his indictment in multiple corruption scandals. Also, he won't ever move on uncompensated redistribution because it'd cause foreign investors (whom his party uses as a cash machine) to flee.

That said, a civil conflict isn't out of the cards. The local communist party, the EFF, is run by a former ANC youth organizer who went into business for himself. His platform is evicting foreign investors (especially the ones who own the coal mines which power the country). He'll likely deny ANC a 50% majority to form a government in 2019, which will cause Zuma to try governing as a minority party. EFF will have none of this and move towards terrorism, which will be met with bullets.

Whites will be fine since the EFF's target is are places of ANC power: schools, party offices, airports, universities. If Zuma actually attempted to fuck over whites/nonblacks all it would do is cause my province (which is a black minority) to secede with the support of England and China (ie, foregin investors). Alternatively, there's always Naimbia, Zambia, and Angola to immigrate to.
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>>33374506

It wouldn't be much of a war. SANDF would immediately loose a fifth of it's force as nonblacks walk away. The remaining enlisted blacks would easily be susceptible to EFF propaganda (considering that whites would be getting the fuck out and going AWOL), and EFF bribes. SANDF would be completely crippled especially if foreign investors get spooked and sanctions are put into place, meaning pay cuts. Also, the EFF (without fear of persecution) would begin openly operating in the streets, going door to door extorting people (especially other blacks) as is typical of a mob. ANC would try to maintain control, but capital flight would hinder their ability to get money.

On the flip side, SAPS would be recreated and it'd be a much more unified force between coloureds, asians and whites (which comprise a majority of WC). Israel would vouch for WC (guess where they get all their enriched uranium from) as would fleeing foreign investors causing most of the west to turn against SA. There's a reason why Ian Smith retired here.
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>>33374532

No it won't because the demographics aren't as black. WC's entire population is six million, only a third of which is ethnically black. SA, as a whole, has about 11 million non blacks. If everyone ejects to WC then WC becomes comparable to Brazil. Such a situation didn't exist in Rhodesia.

Same applies to Namibia, but on a much more dramatic scale since their population is only three million.
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>>33374775
>Israel would tell the USA to go kill whitey.
Wanna now how I know how l know that you have absolutely zero knowledge regarding Israelie relations with Post Apartheid South Africa?
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>>33377459
>>33377501
Frankly I don't get why people think 'libruls' would care about one side or the other, considering Trevor Noah hates on the South African government (and basically every other African government) every time they're mentioned.
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>>33374682
QUE
there are a few fal chambered in 5.56 but the vast majority of them are chamberd in .308
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>>33377459
Except Zuma will be finishing his second term.

Hence why he made the statement, he is trying to use populism to maintain a strangle hold over the party so that he can elect a successor and thus insulate himself and his support base against the mountain of corruption charges that exist against him and then.

Meanwhile, the ANC's urban base is now in open rebellion with Cyril Rhamaposa (actually a pretty cool guy) being tipped to replace Zuma.

This scares the shit out of Zuma and his supporters. Cyril has the backing of the trade unions so Zuma is trying to get the backing of the rural masses.

This is all just a build up towards the next ANC elective congress.
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This is now a South Africa thread

>>33377969
I know all about the kikes.

They steal our missile tech and have been linked to an attempt to steal some of our Nuclear research.
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Can never have too much smoke
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>>33376225
Gimme shorts and a spray painted FAL and I'll fight for a fellow man defending his land any day of the week.
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>women and negros in charge of a multi billion dollar rand frigate
>SkyHighInsurancePremiums.jpeg
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>poo in the lo... bridge?
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>>33378197
>All this talk about FALs
I thought they use the R4, galil clone or something
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Just reminding y'all that those 'niggers' you posted are black men.

Mugabe is a nigger, Mandela and other jack asses are niggers. Not people who will give their life for their country.

You spicks shame the Rhodesian past.
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>>33378217
Yep

We used to use the R1 which was a FAL clone, but got rid of it in the late 1970's
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>>33378217
South African unmarked FALs.
SA helped Rhodesia secretly to avoid international pressure when no one else would.
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So the one thing that truly sets the SANDF apart from other militaries is mortars.

Mortars are everything, literally the key-stone to SANDF doctrine
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>>33378229
And unmarked Alouttes

Lots and lots of helicopters
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What if I want a G3 instead of a FAL?
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>>33378224
Yep.

South Africa as well.

101 "Ovambo" battalion (Namibian) and 101(?) S.A.I were both majority black units and both were very famous for their exploits.

And then of course there was 32 Battalion and the various Khoi-San trackers.

Khoi-San especially, because they would run on foot infront of the MRAP's while tracking terrorists and often took casualties to mines.
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>>33374775
>Israel turning its back on the Boers

Dream on
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pic related I guess, Kings African Rifles. Rhodesian Army.
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Moar.

Black soldiers were an enigma.

For example, the cheer that resounded from the K.A.R barracks when the election results were announced was heard for miles around.

Yet for the duration of the war they had fought well for the Smith Government. So much so that they were often poached by the Rhodesian S.A.S and Selous Scouts.
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>>33378294
you mean Rhodesian African Rifles? or are you refering to the 2nd Battalion, which is Northern Rhodesian (now Zambia and the Zambian Regiment).
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Khoi-San trackers. SADF
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>>33378310
Yeah, my bad.

I think I was also (weirdly) thinking of the Kenyan version as well.

I read about the different african bush wars a long time ago and never really focused on the black units.

South African military history is more my thing
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May as well post some terrorist pictures.

SWAPO "Volcano" unit - this was their best of the best.

Not a single "Volcano" unit made it through the operational area and into the populated areas to the South of Namibia.
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Portuguese nationalists who stayed behind after Angolan independence
>i think

Fought for almost all sides during the war
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>>33378327
No worries my man.

The KAR had battalions from all the colonies from East Africa (well those large enough really). Southern Rhodesia was seperate and had the Royal Rhodesia Regiment and Rhodesia African Rifles up until the CAF was formed.
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Gear captured by the SADF during the Quito campaign.

At the end of the war South Africa held the largest arsenal of Soviet Bloc equipment outside of the Soviet Bloc and aligned nations.

So big, infact, that the IMF had to help pay to destroy it all.
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>>33378138
>there are a few fal chambered in 5.56
The MD97 isn't considered as an FAL in 5.56, rather, a rifle based off the FAL. The main reason is because the Hues realized a tilting bolt sucks if they want to make a lightweight assault rifle and decided to make the rest with rotating bolts. Now, the prototype MD-1 is essentially a 5.56 FAL, since it has the tilting bolt
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thats it for now
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>>33378217
R1s are still used by the SAPS STF
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>>33378265
Go to the black market
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>>33378224
>Mandela was a nigger
>not someone who fought for freedom and equality from his oppressive government
Get out.
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>>33378307
There were black soldiers in the Rhodesian SAS?

Huh, didn't know that. Thought they were segregated like the RLI.
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>>33378171
>he is trying to use populism to maintain a strangle hold over the party
Daily reminder that so is Trump.
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>>33378392
Not as simple as that you ass-hat

They were given their own homelands to rule, back when White/Black was 1:3.

It was only when they ended up at 1:13 with 7 of those 13 living outside their homelands that things became "oppressive".

But sure, tell me more how a tribal culture should be given power over an Industrial one via the womb and the womb alone.
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>>33378400
The difference being that Trump is driven by a sense of duty and Zuma is driven greed.
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>>33378392
Literally a terrorist bomber, hundreds of civilians died at his command.
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>>33378419
Unfortunately that is also a simplistic interpretation.

You have to consider Mandela in his gestalt. In the end he did more good than harm.

I am in no sense liberal, but that is the objective truth.
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>>33378426
>In the end he did more good than harm.

In what universe? Madela's South Africa is a rotting mess. South African blacks were better of by EVERY metric under the apartheid governments of the past.
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>>33376225
Would go for just a gun to fight with. My biggest question is if people were to go fight from like another country, where would they get their arms once the arrive? Would we have to bring our own and if so, how would you get your gun out of america and into africa?
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>>33378406
Well they could have done a lot more to educate the tribal populace and include them in the governing process. But their reactions, which went so far as to ban interracial relationships, and jail people and take their children for violating that law, were far from justified.

>>33378450
>Madela's South Africa is a rotting mess.
Actually Mandela did a pretty good job running South Africa. Zuma on the other hand has been running it straight into the ground.

>South African blacks were better of by EVERY metric under the apartheid governments of the past.
See what I said above about jailing people and taking away their children for the crime of "existing".
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>>33378507
Why is it now their job to educate them? How can you educate them when their population explodes to the point that it did?

Why is it now their job to include them in government?

More importantly, why are you ignoring 300 years of South African history - including the dozens of times blacks literally tried to genocide whites. The entire history of the Boers is that of being on the cusp of annihilation, literal not figurative.

Apartheid was the logical conclusion to 300 years of constant inter-race conflict. Add to this the massive, and real, fear of Communism.

Its no coincidence that the Separate Areas Act and the Suppression of Communism Act were passed on the same day in the same session of Parliament.

>b...but muh whites genocide blacks.
Happened once, in an area the size of Rhode Island the and guy responsible got called off. Also, it was done in the name of the British Empire, not the Afrikaner people or the Union Government.

>b... but muh cherry picked examples of Petty-Apartheid.
The principle was that the key to peace was separation.
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>>33378414
Topkek my man keep telling yourself that republicuck retards
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>>33376225
Honestly, probably $30k a year as long as they cover most basic expenses in country.
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>>33376225
>not just doing it for the experience
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>>33378171

Zuma SUPPOSEDLY will be finishing his second term. I wouldn't be surprised if his party somehow amends the law in the last minute to prevent him from having to step down. They've gone this far with him, despite all the scandals they won't remove him from power. He's going to be staying if only because he's probably not capable of saying no to his handlers. There's a lot of backroom power struggles going on here and they all assume the rural vote is secure.

If anyone involved was even remotely competent, Zuma would have been gone last year. Populism won't work at this point because his reputation (and his party's) is so tarnished. A thing like EFF wouldn't exist otherwise.

>>33378400

Better comparison would be your Trump and the EFF. The latter is far more militant than /pol/ though, and a lot stupider. Zuma and his party are creations of the 90s, and resemble your Democratic party establishment.
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For an uninformed fellow /k/commando what is the SITREP in SA and why do I keep seeing threads about Rhodie Bush War 2: Electric Boogaloo?

>is it time to put on my merc vest, grab an FAL and break out the JAAAMMMBO! time nao?
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>>33376225
>I'd fight for $80k/year
>>33376640
>I would accept 60k usd

top fucking kek, you guys are serious arent you
look up how much a typical merc makes, it's NOWHERE near that
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>>33378392
You are a nigger.
Mandela is just as bad as islamic terrorists.
The difference is that the media didn't praise Bin Laden because he "fought" for "his" country.

Now, please tell me Anon, how do jewish balls taste like?
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>>33374833
Hickok thread?
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>>33378883

see >>33377459

tl;dr is that commies are going to cause a major coal strike in 2020 and we'll be without power for a few days until ANC shoots enough of them to restore order. That is the most realistic worst case scenario.

>why do I keep seeing threads about Rhodie Bush War 2: Electric Boogaloo?

because /pol/ has a collective iq of 89
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>>33378565
>Why is it now their job to educate them? How can you educate them when their population explodes to the point that it did?
>Why is it now their job to include them in government?
Yeah, why should a government take care of all of its population? And why should it allow everyone a say in its representative democracy? If you need these things explained to you, you probably aren't going to benefit from any rational logic about why it's their responsibility to provide the same level of education and political participation for all of its citizens, rather than just select groups.

Also, educated populations that aren't subsistence farmers don't grow in population as rapidly, because they don't need to have 6 kids under the assumption that maybe half will live to adulthood, or be needed as help to work the farm.

>the principle of the peace was separation
Yeah because loving couples who have children together certainly aren't going to do anything to help create peaceful country. Not to mention that when segregation is implemented, it always results in a lower quality of service for one group, because making 2 of everything is fucking expensive.

>>33378847
Better comparison...
Whatever, the main point being that he's using his populist support to shout down opposition no matter where it comes from, including within the party.
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>>33374524
Who the fuck are you?
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>>33378932
>how do jewish balls taste like?
The Apartheid would know better about that.
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>>33378967
Who are you?
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>>33378185
Not to mention killing our bright scientist

RIP Gerald Bull.
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>>33378392
Mandela was a terrorist in the eyes of the US until the Obama Era began, you nigger loving shitskin.
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>>33378694
Why is it the only reaction I see when people dispute negative claims about Trump is "KEK! TOP KEK JEJ"

It's almost like you don't have an argument
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>>33378967

he is the actual Hunter 3-1 Actual.
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>>33379069
It's almost as people have explained Trump's positivety so damn much and have been ignored in an equal measure to the point where a normie comes to us with arguments that have been debunked time after time instead of going through hours of mind rape we just point and laugh.

I mean what can you expect from some dipshit that watches asswipes breaking iphones on youtube and believes in ""news"" they read from a comedy magazine
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>>33379107
Why not make a pastebin?
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>>33376581
A-are these Afrikaner women?
I approve
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>>33379107
This.

The dumbass decided to accuse Britain of spying on him because "they said so on Fox", and caused an international incident.
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Hot Damn, SA politics is exciting.
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>>33379400
It's like the USA, but in Africa
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Isn't there a French military base in Africa that can rush there before major damage happens
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>>33379523
Except a large enough portion of the population believes in witchcraft that can make you immune to bullets and that you can cure yourself of aids by buttfucking young boys

Meanwhile the trans/identity politic dipshits the US is dealing with are a vast minority that is just really vocal.
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>>33379644
>Except a large enough portion of the population believes in witchcraft that can make you immune to bullets and that you can cure yourself of aids by buttfucking young boys
That's what I meant by "but in Africa"

I almost wish we could get a Syrian style proxy war in half of South Africa and Zimbabwe. Would be fun to watch
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>>33379703
The unemployed blacks would just get the white dust spray from the witchdoctor, be given a gun and sent to the front lines.

Basically major zerg rush that shoots back that believes themselves invincible.

In other words.

Bring lots of ammo.
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>>33379644
>aids by buttfucking young boys
Anon, Africa is not Afghanistan. They rape young girls
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>>33379769
So its basically Simba Rebellion 2: South African Jigaboo
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>>33379827
In South Africa if you're white and you're in jail you're gonna get buttfucked.

This happened enough that non-citizens who were being jailed (tourists and such) were actually getting special protection from that as there were a shit ton of complaints. Can't have it become common for tourists getting gangraped in jail with no charges filed against them. Just because they happen to be white.

Although if you were a citizen of SA? No one seems to really care.

http://www.eutimes.net/2010/03/police-jail-rapes-of-white-sa-men-is-a-war-crime-pattern/

It isn't just girls, its boys too.
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>>33379069
Not same guy, but "trump is driven by a sense of duty" is a claim with no evidence given, and therefore can be reasonably mocked

Trump is a businessman, and a narcissist. Im convinced he began the election as a vanity candidate, and won through the sheer stupidity of the DNC.

As far as I can see, trump is, above all else, for himself.
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>>33378667

Out of curiosity, were you expecting anything else?
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>>33377459
You don't get it, do you? You're alone, m8. You MIGHT get some token support from a few corporate interests. That's if you're lucky. They'll chip a few million dollars in for some mercs to see that the broader part of the Saffer Afrikaner community left doesn't get slaughtered en mass, and to defend the minerals. That's it.

But assuming this goes hot, whites will still die, and even if you have contractors on the ground, many will have to fend for themselves. What you won't get are, for instance, the UK, Australia, the US, or other nations actually chipping in support to unfuck South Africa and rip out the ANC. There's no wherewithal. Jews run the world and they've decided that the white devil deserves to die. Even if some other African country were to take you, it would be temporary refuge at best. Realistically, no one believes there is room anywhere for ~3,000,000 Afrikaners or whatever.
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>>33374490
I'd join opfor to kill all the whites once and for all so it'll be like they were never there at all. Isn't the internet a beautiful thing?
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>>33376225
Gib gun, food, boolits and point to horde of angry niggers. I take care of rest.
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>>33376581
nasty ass white women drinking alcohol..how original
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>>33378392
Look up "necklacing" and the hijinks good old Nelson and his wife got up to. Their peaceful love of all thing was a sham, it was a huge scam and it suckered all of you cocksuckers in. They were communist nigger thugs. The ANC was run by criminal niggers and Jews. Look up a guy named Joe Slovo and his associates if you're curious.

What you and most other people have done is looked at Nelson Mandela and Robert Mugabe like they were MLK. Well, they kind of are, but they're not. First mistake: Africa is not the US. Second mistake: American communists are not African communists. Yes, King was a communist. But all in all, he was a relatively banal communist when compared with the reds in Sub-Saharan Africa. Both the ANC and ZANU-PF were communist fronts and received financial and material aid from China, Cuba, and Russia. Moreover, they both undertook subversive and military actions against their governments; ZANU and the other factions in Rhodesia were a bit hotter in the bush war, but SA also fought against commies in Angola and in their own backyard. Third: while MLK was a complete fraud whose every work basically from his "letter from a Birmingham jail" or whatever to his major speeches were all actually written by Jews, and his success was girded by Jewish money and influence, he wasn't used by Jews to wreck a nation like Mandela and the ANC were.

Mandela was the kind-seeming, affable face to a bunch of commie nutfucks so that they could bleed SA dry and kill whitey basically. Black rule has managed to fuck the country over in about 20 years flat. You can read up on every way that they're breaking down socially and economically. Rhodesia and SA are portents not only of Africa but of the world as a whole.

>>33379982
SA is in every way completely dysfunctional and broken now because of the ANC. It's like if you took all the complaints people sometimes have about the US and exaggerated them to the point of an almost nightmarish or hellish extent.
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There is no fight, the gov backs the blacks. If you are smart you will leave now. The dumb whites will be killed but it will show just how much the left revels in the death of white people finally showing how much they really do want all whites dead
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>>33381214
So basically MLK was the test program to jump start a civil rights movement and lay the ground work concept that would be used in another figure in the future.

That figure being Mandela who would take that concept to the next level.

I certainly agree that SA is completely dysfunctional. When I was there visiting I really did wish I had a gun on my person at all times. Never knowing if shit would go bad at any given time.
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>>33374490
HEY!! HEY!! STAY OUT OF OUR BUSH WAR YOU KIDS!! DAMMIT IF YOU WANT ONE MAKE YOUR OWN DAMMIT!!
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>>33374490
ALSO BRING YOUR OWN PT SHORTS MESH VEST AND AVIATORS.. AND THEM PT SHORTS BETTER BE THE KIND WERE THERE'S ALWAYS AN BIT OF BALL SACK STICKING OUT.
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>>33381335
Will you kiss the little dangly bit?
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>>33381371
THE DANGLY BIT IS FOR HEAT MANAGEMENT!!
YOU DON"T WANT SUFFER HEAT STROKE IN THE BUSH!! ALSO NO OPEN MOFFIES ALLOWED ONLEY CLOSETED ONES.
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>>33379523

SA and the US are incredibly similar

>both multiethnic, multilingual, diverse societies
>both the result of European Colonialism. SA even Had wagon trails just like the US
>both had hardline segregation policies that were overturned

SA's system of govt is fairly similar to the US.

I see SA as what the US would be like if you flipped the demographics, and turned up the racial tension and added more AIDS.
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>>33381571
And instead of having all four seasons you have just variations of summer. Unless you're near a mountain then you'd get some snow.

Instead of bordering other nations with even colder or even warmer weather nations. You're surrounded by water and nations above trying to get inside. With similar ethnicities.
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>>33374638
>they and their ancestors turned from a tribal shithole which no black wanted into arable and vibrant farmland which suddenly the blacks all want now

Nigger what? Do you not know that there were shitloads of black Rhodesians that fought to maintain the country as it was? Do you not know that there were special units that no whites where permitted to enter? Do you really think that the Rhodesian Bush War was nothing but blacks vs whites? Do you not know that Mugabe also stole farm land from from his political opponents and the citizens that supported his opponents, both black and white?

When did /k/ get this fucking ignorant?
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>>33378392
At this point i don't know if this is bait or there are people this stupid coming to /k/.
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>>33374638
There were lots of blacks fighthing for Rhodesia too, it wasn't south africa were whites lived in closed communites, there was no apartheid in Rhodie land, this is why there were so many blacks fighthing, there were considered equal to whites and they knew it.
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>>33381708

You're right about Rhodesia. But the other anon is right in the regard about whites being persecuted in SA.

Zuma and the ANC are not so subtley anti-white. I'm not sure what kind of power the EFF has, but there's a group of them who want Afrikaans to stop being taught at some Uni in Pretoria. We all know where they're going with that.
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>>33382480
>But the other anon is right in the regard about whites being persecuted in SA.
Shit, my bad, I misread.
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>>33376225
holy shit i would do it for free if it meant fighting for a comfy koep of a few thousand acres and a qt afrikaaner wife.

btw all you niggers in this thread dont realize that there are english and dutch descendants. boers=\=colonials

t. American already planning to move to SA upon graduation
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>>33378392
mandela was a terrorist who used global liberalism as an guise to kill white people and get money
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>>33378565
fucking kill you'reselve
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>>33379827
sign me up
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>>33378962
>Yeah, why should a government take care of all of its population?

Not our population . They had their own areas and were allowed to rule themselves.

See: Bantustans

If you need that explained to you, then you obviously have no foundation in South African history and have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

>Yeah because loving couples who have children together certainly aren't going to do anything to help create peaceful country.

Typical liberal over simplification. You over-simplify and then say "see look how ridiculous this is". Not realizing that it is ridiculous because your interpretation is incorrect, it is a reflection of your own myopic understanding.

To fall in love they need to meet. To meet they need to interact. To be able to interact there must be a connection between the two groups.

Connections between the two groups (white and black) has allways lead to conflict. Hence it was avoided. Hence APART-heid.


You see, you know nothing, yet as usual you sit there and pontificate. You think the whole world works like America or Europe. You think everything must fall neatly in line like your College professor said it would. You ignore history, you ignore facts and you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
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>>33379994
Trump is driven by a sense of duty claim is well founded.

He has been talking about this since the 1980's. The intervewis are available online, watch them.

There is also the fact that he is taking a massive pay cut to do so
>b..but his company
>its in a trust
>b..but its not a blind trust
>Trump isnt going to lock out his whole family and just hope his business survives 4 (8?) years of stasis.

Do your homework
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>>33378847
The party allready revolted by voting against him.

Zuma is not doing a 3rd term. You forget Gwede Mantashe still has a huge ammount of power.
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>>33383027
To clarify there are currently 3 major factions

1. Trade Unions and the ANC urban working class (most powerful) - they have thrown their support behind Cyril Rhamaposa

2. Zuma and the Robber Barron's - the ANCs rural peasant base. Second most powerful. They have fallen in with Zuma and are supporting Nkosazana Dlamini-Zuma

3. The reformists - the weakest clique. Lead by Pravin Gordham and Derek Hannekom. The weakest of the 3, likely to fall in line with Rhamaposa.

The ANC announced that they will be accelerating party processes and will be appointing Zuma's successor this year.
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>>33375748
>alterior motive
Rhodesia had a large supply of nickel among other vital mined resources. Also this helped the SA/Israeli nuclear cooperation
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>>33374524
Can you literally kill yourself? You're the worst part of /k/.
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>>33379607
>France
>not being total shit at anything military related
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>>33381271
Yes. Even with MLK's checkered past, he was able to slip through because the media ignored all of his baggage and lionized him instead. Sound familiar? Yep, it's exactly what they did to Mandela too, and what they did for Mugabe for a while until Mugabe shit the bed and started fucking over globalist corporate interests. Mugabe went too far toward full communism, at least such as thuggish and uncouth sorts are wont to. If you read into at all, MLK not only did strange things with whores and cheated on his wife while playing preacher, but he was kind of a drunken dick. He plagiarized just to get through seminary school and people want to act like Saint MLK had an original thought in his life, or that he wasn't just taking scripts from Manhattan Jews. (Look into the number of naive Jews who rode those 'freedom buses' or whatever into the South to protest segregation and the rest. It's actually kind of hilarious.)

They pushed MLK so that they could have Malcolm X as a foil. Both of those are placed on a pedestal so that even lower scum could be put in the picture and weaponized against "white supremacy." To be quite honest, their tricks worked very well. Between the manipulation of mass media which they conveniently own and the deployment of these figures largely during decolonization, it's made a brew of white guilt that's wracked up a hell of a toll.

>>33381571
SA is the US in 70 years if the decline isn't arrested or reversed. Forget the geographical differences, the shit doesn't matter. The Empire State building will be squatting grounds for kaffirs and mullahs by 2050 if shit keeps going downhill. Trump is a good start, but he's just a start.

>>33382697
Have fun. The grid doesn't work like it should, they have rolling brown outs; the roads suck shit worse than anything you've ever seen in the US; high base inflation to pay for muh programs (the Rand is getting raped honestly); gun ownership isn't as easy as the US; and enjoy your walled compound.
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>>33385721
I don't mean to sound too negative here. In fact I'll cool it with the anti-semitic remarks. But you have to understand where I'm coming from. MLK didn't simply "happen" and he wasn't a spontaneous figure. He was a carefully constructed media creation from recruitment until he was canonized in history books. Not everything is a conspiracy or intentional effort, but these things do exist and where they do exist, it's helpful to shine light on them.

Boers have a certain A E S T H E T I C about them, but at this point, they're pretty tragic. I don't think I'd even go to SA if there was a hot war, honestly. They're not willing to leave Africa, they're not willing to genocide the kaffirs, and in the pats, they cared too much about kaffir nannies and manservants to really enforce strict territorial separation. I don't think a Free Cape will even work out, because in time it will be another Kaffirstan just like the rest of Africa because they have no wherewithal to keep them out. Why save those who won't put the first effort up to show that they want to save themselves?
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>>33376225
One FAL and a Afrikaner qt
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We're not going to go to SA. They are anglo/jewish cunts who let Rhodesia be destroyed. We're going back and restoring Rhodesia to it's owners, and instituting apartheid with Boer rule. Blood from families with old farms there can have it back. Let SA burn like they let Rhodies burn, except we're going to take all of their shit while they go down.
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>You MIGHT get some token support from a few corporate interests.

That's sufficient. The only reason Apartheid ended was because your government, over Reagan's veto, sanctioned de Klerk and divested everything. The economy fell to pieces and minority rule ended. All that matters in Africa is what foreign companies want, because those companies have the same net worth as the government. Rio Tinto and BHP combined are worth $340 billion, which is SA's entire GDP. These companies don't want their mines fucked with, which is exactly what the communists want to nationalise. If ANC move to do it, these companies will sell hard, have the home country enact sanctions, then escalate a civil war. Prices crash and when the new foreigner-friendly gov't is constructed they rebuy at rock bottom prices.

>Jews run the world and they've decided that the white devil deserves to die.

Hey retard, read my posts. Israel gets their enriched uranium from our nuclear power plant. They're not going to let that go anytime soon. Also getting rid of the ANC benefits them because it means one less competitor against IWI.

>Even if some other African country were to take you, it would be temporary refuge at best.

Namibia's entire population is 3 million, SA has 11 million non-blacks that would be affected by anti-colonial policy (as was the case in Mozambique and others). They wouldn't be able to fight a horde, not that they'd want to because we'd all bring money.
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>>33385844

I feel you. Ive hit the same black pilled wall myself. Its just going to repeat again and again until one of these ethnic groups is dead.
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>>33385721

Childhood is idolizing MLK? Adulthood is realizing Malcom X was the real nigga?
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>>33378507
>Not setting up policies to ensure your not driven into minority status

Fucking KEK
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>>33386178
Israel was friendly with SA and Rhodesia... How did that work out. LOL!
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>>33381571
>US
>Multilingual
What?
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>>33386459

It worked out well, Israel only dumped us after the Americans sanctioned us, again over Reagan's Veto. And in the very end, being the good friends they were, they took possession of all of our nuclear weapons and enriched uranium supplies. Why do you think they bought all those submarines? It's not because they like looking at fish.

Also, as colonial powers are want to do Israel has a very large presence in Africa in general. Ever heard of Operation Entebbe? Israelis own a lot of properties down here, hence why the Westgate mall attack happened and why Israel sent Mossad operatives to deal with it. They'd jump at a chance to create a second Israel, but with white people who trust them. This would be very easy to do if ANC begins doing communist things which would piss off even China.
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>>33386590
I'm aware that there are a lot of Israelis who own SA interests. Basically, Anglo in SA means a Jew, and because of Aliyah/right of return, they're an automatic Israeli citizen. I'll look into Operation Entebbe.
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>>33386752

Anglos don't get free Israeli citizenship otherwise I'd probably have left years ago. I'm talking about Israel supporting whites here because of the mutual interest which exists.
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>>33386590
>Rolling blackouts
Not a thing anymore. We are in the tail end of one of the world's most ambitious builds re: energy. Phase 2 is a multi trillion dollar nuclear build

>Roads
Yeah, they are shit if you live in a rural municipality where noone pays taxes. In cities and towns they are generally fine

>Walled compounds
If you were well travelled you would know that having a wall around your house is pretty standard and that not having a wall is a very American thing

Crime is a problem, unreliable labour force is a problem, terrible policy implementation is a problem and inequality is a problem and increased political radicalisation amongst the unemployables is a problem. But the things you list are just meme tier sensationalism
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>>33382970
>You see, you know nothing, yet as usual you sit there and pontificate.
Yeah, the guy who ignores reason and common sense in preference about feels concerning how blacks and whites living together always leads to conflict, is definitely not the one who's pontificating here...

>>33381214
>>33385721
>Rants about a conspiracy by da joos!

>>33382342
And you call me stupid?
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>>33381708
>When did /k/ get this fucking ignorant?
When /pol/ decided we were like them and came flooding in here.
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>>33386776
If I wasn't being clear, I was talking about English or English-presenting Jews. And yes, if you can prove that you have a Jewish parent, you can ride Aliyah to the land of the Chosen.

>>33386786
>Not a thing anymore.
lies
> In cities and towns they are generally fine
lies
>If you were well travelled you would know that having a wall around your house is pretty standard and that not having a wall is a very American thing
huh, you don't really see them all that commonly in European houses unless they're out in the country, in which case I might agree. Also, Canadian houses are pretty much the same as American houses. Places south of the US border are rather like SA though, they get walls as a rule if they can afford it.

>Crime is a problem, unreliable labour force is a problem, terrible policy implementation is a problem and inequality is a problem and increased political radicalisation amongst the unemployables is a problem. But the things you list are just meme tier sensationalism

OK, so SA is a wretched shithole filled with roving bands of looting kaffirs, corrupt as fuck police and government officials, and the eh "policy" as you say is essentially confiscation of whitey's wealth for the sake of the glue sniffing kaffir... but I guess I'm just full of shit, eh?
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>>33386849
typical SJW trash. I throw some arguments and some threads you could pull, some tangible things you could look up if you had an ounce of curiosity. But you're as retarded and uninspired as you look. Fuck off back to tumblr or plebbit, faggot.
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>>33386986
Uh huh you're right, I'm the ignorant one. Afterall who wouldn't believe that there's a conspiracy to destroy white people?
/sarcasm
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>>33378314
Why are they so short?
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>>33386558
Ever since the Louisiana Purchase (Frenchies down in Louisiana), buying Florida, and getting all that clay from Mexico the USA has had a fair share of non-English speakers. That's before you even dig into the native tribes. Lots of European immigrants as well, enough they had their own newspapers in their language before they assimilated. Its only in the past few decades that lots of Spanish speakers, and all sorts of shit from all around the world, have been coming in greater numbers

I met a landlord who builds and maintain houses in his retirement. The guy is 79 years old, and says he grew up in west Kansas, learning to speak German before he spoke English because he was the son of German immigrants, so he got into fights daily with English speaking kids at school. That anon is correct in that the USA is surprisingly multi-lingual, at least the further back in time you go.
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>>33386849
>Yeah, the guy who ignores reason and common sense in preference about feels concerning how blacks and whites living together always leads to conflict, is definitely not the one who's pontificating here
>Blacks and whites living together does not lead to violence

Open a South African history textbook on literally any page

Or

Google "South Africa" and click for news results

The facts speak for themselves
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>White, english speaking Americans attempting to aid the Afrikaaners

If there is anyone the old-school boer hates more than a kaffir, it's a fucking Brit.
Also, you poes cucks can't even speak the language.

Unless you were born there, don't speak English at all, and are heavily Catholic, don't expect shit in the way of a greeting other than a bullet in the brain.

That said, there will be no civil war. The sheer numbers amassed against any Dutch Republic would crush it in hours, which is why it hasn't worked previously.
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>>33376225
>80k
That's SOF tier pay.
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>>33381221
What do the blue diamonds represent?
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>>33378406

That's incorrect: the current brand of negros looking to stir up trouble here aren't even native to the region: the Zulus are, and they were pro-Apartheid because it kept the immigrants at bay.

This isn't a civil war, this is what happens when you let refugees in unrestricted and allow them take power.
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>>33388287
>The facts speak for themselves
Indeed, the fact that whites and blacks live side by side in many places around the world, completely at peace with one another, proves that it doesn't automatically lead to violence. Why you have trouble accepting those facts, I don't know. Probably something to do with feels though.

>inb4 someone brings up the US's murder rate and racial statistics
Most murders happen in-race, no matter what race that's doing the murdering.
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>>33389234
>discussion about South Africa specifically in relation to South African history and the vast cultural differences that exists there
>moves the goal-posts to the whole world.
>provides zero citations
>launches accusations of feels

As I outlined here: >>33382970
>You think the whole world works like America or Europe. You think everything must fall neatly in line like your College professor said it would. You ignore history, you ignore facts and you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

The English language does not contain sufficient verbosity to allow for the construction of an apt description of your ineptitude.
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>>33389234
>the fact that whites and blacks live side by side in many places around the world, completely at peace with one another,

Places where blacks and whites live side by side tend to be the most racist, see pic related, also FYI Brazil regularly is ranked as the worlds most racist country
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/24/opinion/vanessa-barbara-in-denial-over-racism-in-brazil.html?_r=0

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2325502/Map-shows-worlds-racist-countries-answers-surprise-you.html

>proves that it doesn't automatically lead to violence.

Yes, apart from:
>Haiti
>DRC Congo
>Rhodesia
>Kenya
>Zimbabwe
>South Africa
>Namibia
>Uganda
>Angola
>Mozambique
>Tanzania
>Libya

Now shall we discuss South African history?
>The 100 years war between Dutch Settlers and Xhosa a.k.a The Xhosa wars?
> Shall we discuss the two wars in which the Zulu tried to genocide the Dutch (Battle of Italeni, Battle of Maqongqe and the Battle of Blood River)?
>Or when the Ndebele tried at Makapansgat?
>Or the Basoto with the Seqiti War in which the Boers survived by the skin of their teeth?

And thats ignoring the wars that the British and Griqua fought (another 14 or so all together).

O and FYI, today one of South Africa's (black) parliamentarians suggested that White Farmers should be buried alive
http://www.politicsweb.co.za/politics/anc-mp-calls-for-white-farmers-to-be-buried-alive-

Do not make the mistake as to be so arrogant as to lecture another about his country, especially when you are so utterly uninitiated in such matters.
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1.) Apartheid SA was a zionist proxy, ANC is anti-Israel

2.) There will be no war. Modern White South Africans are liberal pussies who are ashamed of Apartheid. They will flee the country as they always have

3.) Even if there was a race war in SA, no fat weeb on 4chan will ever take part in it
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>>33387595
Far enough. It was still never to the point that South Africa is at.
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>>33390378
>Even if there was a race war in SA, no fat weeb on 4chan will ever take part in it
That is some heavy projection, anon. You'd be surprised at the different types of people who lurk in these boards, especially /k/ along with their backgrounds
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>>33378392
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>>33378392
Rekt >>33390890
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>>33390907
>people shout insults
>claims with no evidence
>and even throw in a conspiracy about da joos
>that means they rekt me
Kek, reading comprehension isn't your friend.
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>>33389234
>Indeed, the fact that whites and blacks live side by side in many places around the world, completely at peace with one another

And the whites are worse off for it in all of those places
But the whites are a cucked race, and treason is the dominant political view, so any sort of pro-white agenda is condemned
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>>33391092
Actually if you read Thomas Sowell's Black Rednecks and White Liberals there was a point in time (lasting about 5 years) where Blacks and Whites in the US (in the northern states) lived peacefully with each other. No racism or discrimination occurred at all.

It unfortunately did change when a lot of the blacks in southern states were out of work and went north to find jobs. It destroyed the black image of being proper and able to co-exist with whites in peace. As you had uneducated, illiterate, and sometimes violent people interacting with people in northern states.

Before long discrimination against blacks was back in full swing.

Definitely give Thomas Sowell's book a read. He even talks about apartheid and the benefits it gave to the blacks in terms of economic and social benefits.
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>>33391142
That sort of thing is inevitable though
Whether its ended immediately through immigration of the "normal" black, rather than some upper class, or through their children regressing to the norm.

This is the big trick of mass immigration, you can only "vet" the first generation.
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If I could get paid well enough, i'd go to SA and help some Boers and Africans that didn't want to kill whitey. But i'd be looked down upon/literally labeled a criminal by the U.S. for going and helping Boers. Let alone getting paid.
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>>33391194
>regressing to the norm

How can someone "regress" when they have a solid education and solid framework for life?

What the southern blacks had was a terrible cultural framework that defined how they lived their life. Which was the fact they lived next door to white rednecks whom were previously kicked out of Britain, Scotland, Ireland, and Wales. Which when happened was just around the time of the enlightened movement that allowed the concept of freedom and liberty to be discussed and to go away from a monarch dictatorship.

What's happening in Europe right now is the dumbest, least educated, least skilled workers/people being sent to Europe. While all those capable of actually getting those jobs that are needed to be filled are staying in their home country and are just glad the human trash are gone.
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>>33391393
If they were surrounded only by good people it wouldn't be a problem. It's a well-known phenomenon that Blacks act like crabs in a bucket with each other.
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>>33391393
>How can someone "regress" when they have a solid education and solid framework for life?

We are talking about genetics here, that is the foundation of everything.
Yes, plenty of people with "solid education" and "solid framework" turn into fuckups.

Culture comes from race, black culture created by blacks will always be a disaster. What they had was white culture/values imposed on them.

Of course you miss the whole point, which is that WHITES deserve their own communities, their own cities, and their own countries.
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>>33388526
states
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>>33374490
Nothing gonna happen. You a faggot.

Have a chappies for effort.
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>>33378243
It makes sense.
>Mountainous
Therefore, bigass stationary artillery aren't the best option of indirect fire against personnel
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>>33390378

You mean CIA/US lap dog.

I find it hard to believe that the US had no idea Israel was helping and got the Nuke program going.

My father fought in Angola. While they were blowing up Cubans the USA was politically and socially pressuring SA to go fuck itself. That didn't stop the endless supply drops by all white C130s with pilots in blank jump suits sporting heavy American accents always eager to trade their Marlboro reds for local cigs.
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>>33383602
newfag
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>>33374524

Hunter is actually right for once

Soutpiel think they can cry foul and think the motherland will help them when they meddle in a sovereign nation.
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>>33392615
They should read that mercenary book that was posted in the last merc thread. Talks about that in the beginning. Very good read actually.
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>>33392648
Found it

>https://www.scribd.com/doc/67855018/The-Manual-of-the-Mercenary-Soldier
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>>33392458
US did not have a great deal of influence on Israel during the 70s and 80s. US even put a number of embargoes on Israel after they bombed Iraq's reactor and invaded Lebanon.

In response to this Israel began upping aid to South Africa as retaliation because they knew it'd piss off washington
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>>33383010

If you watched a single one of those videos you'd know he did that to chase attention and just did to build up his ego and keep himself a talking point in tabloids

>He's taking a pay cut
>He can't just let his businesses run blindly

He can, and he chooses not to because he's a brazen kleptocrat with no interest in the well being of the country. The fact that he flaunts the basic ethics our country's principles of civil service are founded on (Something you may be aware of if you cracked a book open for once instead of circlejerking in anti-ATF threads all day) makes this self-evident.
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>>33374490
Y'all niggas still use the mag-7?

Love me some of them baby 12g, ya feel me?
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>>33389977
Montana is racist as fuck, dumb map
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>>33374775
I get that this is 4chan and the 17 year olds like to pick up the (((israel))) memes but Israel was well known to support white land owners in the region.
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>>33386558
california has large counties where majority speak spanish
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>>33392404
They like to show off their most advanced technology on their bank notes, I see
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>>33378132
>Trevor Noah hates on the South African government

For what? Not being liberal and anti-white enough?
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>>33397639
We don't have any counties where the majority speak spanish. However, in most counties spanish is the second most spoken language at home. The last time a majority of californians spoke spanish was when we were a part of Mexico.
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>>33374524

Do you think we'll get the opportunity to hunt /pol/acks for bounties?

>drilling /pol/ack skulls at 500 yards and getting paid to do it

MY DICK
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>>33398109
Seriously? For all the things that everyone else hates about him, dumbass.
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>>33391393
throw a well educated person into a prison system and see how they regress, it's not hard to see that they put on a mask and play the role of any other inmate.

Now you throw a well educated black person into the cesspool of nig-culture where being well educated is actively frowned upon as being a uncle tom and soon they're slurring their words and "axing you a question". Their children are now surrounded at all times during their education by their nig-"peers" and cannot learn properly without being identified as an uncle tom... thus they regress.
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>>33389234
>Most murders happen in-race, no matter what race that's doing the murdering.

Said someone who has never seen murder stats arranged by race for perp & victim, pic related.

Whites murder blacks less than a tenth as much as they kill each other 10 to .77

Blacks murder whites at a rate of 9 to 55. If the ratio was less than a tenth, it would be 5.5 to 55. 9 is almost double that. Blacks have twice the ratio of cross racial murder that whites do.
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>>33401993
Which is why when education reform happened with regards to blacks in New England (late 1800's) they found in necessary to keep the children living at the school.

High forms of discipline were enforced, fighting, sexual misconduct were grounds for expulsion. They learned to speak clearly and coherently.

The attitudes and culture the blacks found themselves in were a result of hanging around "crackers" or rednecks of the time. Whom also were uneducated, spoke with slurred and fractured words.

The problem also is that you attribute these attitudes with blacks only. Especially with regards to blacks being called "uncle toms" or "being too white". You can find these same issues even amongst white people in Britain. Which Thomas Sowell points out.

All it is, (in the poor neighbourhoods) were kids trying to learn and get educated. Due to the indoctrination the kids were getting of being "victims of society" they bullied and beat anyone who appeared or acted smarter than them. Trying to study and get better grades? You'll get your ass kicked. Trying to read a book and increase your vocabulary and literacy? You'll get your ass kicked. It is more of a class warfare then race warfare. However, the same rules apply.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGUi7ezxcTk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hicAZFkO5Ag

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brZgmTMXr_k

https://www.creators.com/read/thomas-sowell/12/13/a-challenge-to-our-beliefs

Those blacks that become far more successful get out of the crumby neighbourhoods first. They save and scrounge to afford a new house/apartment in a new neighbourhood so their children are not in that environment.

I agree the environment is what allows these issues to continue. Why do you think there was such a brain drain in SA after the end of apartheid? The people saw the writing on the wall and got out while they could. At the same time, taking the best of the best (not only whites, blacks too) out of the country.
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>>33376581
Why are they so fat
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>>33403140
They are far from fat, but they certainly could try and work on being fit. Except it'll eat into their time spent having fun.
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>>33403157
I think he meant "phat".
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>>33403979
No, he meant fat. Those girls are prime basic bitch skinny-fat
>love handles
>double-chins
>cellulite
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>>33403979
No, I meant fat. As in, they are gross.
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