AR THREAD AR GENERAL /ARG/ AR THREAD GENERAL AR GENERAL THREAD

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>>33368961
>send m300v for repairs
>they say 2-4 weeks
>4 weeks pass
>call
>made it's way to the repair department 2 weeks ago
>lady says repairs take 4-6 weeks after the repair department gets it
god damn sf customer service sucks, just give me a new 300v head and call it a day.
>it's your fault it's broken
yeah, it's actually not because all i did was turn it on for a few seconds every now and then.

i guess when it comes to surefire, you need doubles of everything so you always have one item while the other is in for repair.

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surefire has some problems

>>33368972
ree

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>>33368972
considering how hassle free my 952v repair was, they probably did figure out it was your fault
there's probably a red flag attached to your name now.

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>>33368972
>it's the bi-annual "warranty" repair for giddy

They are tired of your shit.

>>33369002
>>33368972
>>33368995
>all these surefire product returns
So this is the power of surefire

>>33369036
Brandsluts are needed to support the war economy.

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>>33368972

My Surefire light has been very pleasing.

>>33369002

This.

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>>33368961
>I break everything I own edition

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>>33368972
>all i did was
This is how I know you cocked it.

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>>33369036
the older 952vs had a well known issue with flickering
i only paid $70 and they repaired it in a week

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post glawks

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>>33369036
The 952v is fucking ancient and probably saw a deployment or 5 before qb got his hands on it.

Giddy is a retard who breaks everything he touches.

Out of 6 or 7 surefire lights I've owned not a single one has had any sort of issue, including a beat to shit GWOT bring back 952v.

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>>33369062
no it was new in the packaging but definitely old

>>33369056
>factory defect
>paying to get it fixed
so this is the power...of patsies.

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>>33369073
Give me all your helpers or else1!

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>>33369073
Well then. I didn't know anyone actually bought 952vs NiB...for $70 I'm not talking shit though.

>>33369036
>insight/streamlight/elzetta/etc
>actually having a company to return them to

Gee it's like it's their business to stand behind a product or something.

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>>33369061
Posting most A E S T H E T I C Glock+light combo.

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>>33369076
free shipping both ways, covered under warranty

>>33369082
find your own

>>33369088
the army got boxes of them and i'm pretty sure it was stolen
but who's going to prove that

>>33369102
>free shipping both ways, covered under warranty
so then what did you pay 70 dollars for?

>>33369094
Did I rub you the wrong way buddy

>>33369106
for the fucking light itself off ebay
do you think it fucking materialized in my mailbox?

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>>33369106
The light...unlike Trijicon SF doesn't make you jump through hoops and prove you are the original owner.

>>33369118
learn to write, you fucking retard. nowhere did you mention you bought it for 70 dollars. you said it was broken you paid 70 dollars.

>>33369118
>i only paid $70 and they repaired it in a week
Could easily be interpreted to mean you paid $70 to have it fixed

>>33369123
i called them explained the issue and they gave me a RMA number
one week, fixed, returned

>>33369125
>>33369132
no one had an issue understanding me except anon

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>>33368961
Shit. I really need to get a weapon light. I don't need it at all and there are so many other things I could use instead, but I want one.

>>33369148
Snarf was still salty after you left last night, way to be an asshole.

>>33369100
I think the APL looks best

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>>33368972
your Vampire head grinding too?
My M600V grinds like a massive cunt when trying to switch to IR/WH

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>>33369189
best combo

>>33369189
It is definitely the best looking pistol light

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>>33369050
>>33369049
>>33369033
>>33369002
Found the shills, so does SF pay you with cash or free repairs?

>>33369205
>trigger
I trusted you

>>33369100
MK27 clone when?

http://nsn-now.com/1005016581930

>>33369218
have you ever tried one

>>33369002
He's probably been on a list since he sent his can in the second time.

>>33369226
not an argument

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>>33369182
I stand by my statement, you're fucking retarded

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>>33369234
something something burden of proof

>>33369226
No and hopefully I never will. ADs with glocks are frequently attributed to aftermarket triggers.

I already made the mistake of buying a ghost edge disconnector which is now in the trash. The stock trigger is perfectly serviceable.

>>33369233
>give company lots of money
>get blacklisted
So sf really is stupid.

Every day that passes, i like surefire less.

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>>33369182
>>33369243
what did i do

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>>33369258
you didnt play as our judge in the court of memes

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THEYRE GONE

GONE

Rare MARSOC surplus for sale, USMC marked Colt M45A1, only a few of these made it into the civilian market before the DoD ordered the rest destroyed, $5000 OBO

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>>33369248
overwatch uses an oem trigger bar, it's just the shoe, you can find all kinds of videos of them testing them to retain the factory safeties, and I tested it after install including drop safe from waist height

it's not even an EDC gun anyways

>>33369268
DON'T SELL IT

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Did i do okay?
900 + 5 mags

>>33369293
more pics faggot

Three weeks until Mystic black bcgs are back in stock :/

Still need to email larue about muh rail

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>>33369215
I get paid in tales of some stupid Mexican who keeps breaking shit and expecting free and quality CS. So far it's well worth it.
>>33369224
Never.
>>33369243
I stayed for your foodposting, be mad at QB for bailing, not me. :^

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>>33369303
Y u gotta b mean

>>33369325
jesus christ you failed miserably

>>33369293
I hope that price got you more than a nice box
>>33369311
Forgot trip

>>33369203
My 600v does grind a bit but i can lice with it.

My 300v would flicker and sometimes wouldn't even turn on.

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>>33369322
no mor bully glock triggers plz

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>>33369322
i went to bed
to wake up for my job

>>33369325
aw fuck

>>33369332
get an LMT enhanced bolt

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>>33369336
hopping to get an email from them back today. probably wont though. Need to know if I can put some sort of grease in there to help it not be a shit.

>>33369322
>who keeps breaking shit and expecting free and quality CS.
I paid for my can but if they expect me to pay for their broken light they can go straight to hell

>>33369340
>>33369331
Y tho

>>33369351
>troy

>>33369351
you got a pdw stock on a fucking full length rifle you failure at life

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>>33369350
Surefire really doesnt like dealing with civilians, I thought you would know this

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>>33369337
That will happen when a GHOST connector comes standard.

>>33369350
>their broken light
It's your broken light actually. ;^

>>33369345
I put oil and it didn't help, seems like there's a burr in there or the steel peg is rubbing against the bezel

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>Zeus is here

Fucking Indiana man, rain like balls, sun, snow and now more rain. All in one day

how lucky can a guy get

>>33369376
Possession is nine-tenths of the law

>>33369341
Too expensive, and also out of stock

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>>33369376
theyre like 15 bucks tho. that plus like 500 rounds gets everything as smooth as it needs to be

>>33369384
You could be luckier by not living in Indiana

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>>33369354
>>33369359
Y u still mean

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>>33369325
I don't even give a fuck about the complete lack of cheek weld on that PDW stock, I like it. Considering that stock retails for a nut hair under $400, you didn't do bad on the price.

>>33369400
>dickmod
>sparc ar
stop posting

>>33369400
>>33369415
yep
that's a ban i'm afraid

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Reposting for results.

I'm gunna do it faggots

>.458 Socom

I need suggestions for a full length handguard for a 16 inch barrel that's cheap, easy to instal, and doesn't need many tools to instal.

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>>33369415
dickmod best mod

>surefire reps probably loiter Reddit and here to see tards like Giddy break shit in hopes of free upgrades

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>>33369427
>.458 socom

>DD chf 16" mid
>SFMB
>Geissele SMR mk8 13" ddc
>MBUS Pro set
>Cryptic phosphate bcg
>Rainier forged upper complete
My goal is to sell off all my AR stuff and have one complete 16" gun, and one complete SBR. This is the upper for the complete gun. How did I do?

>>33369427
That handguard

>>33369431
That looks like something pb would build, and that's not a compliment

>>33369427
Geissele MK8 13"

>>33369442
9/10

make it a 14.5" barrel and it's a 10/10

>>33369442
>ddc
ruined it

>>33369464
wrong

>>33369458
Again, I want only two guns. SBR is going to come later, and I'm already selling off a 14.5 because I'm tired of dealing with pinned MDs. I want to be able to change anything at a moment's notice. I did think quite a while on a 14.5 though.

Gonna get some chinese food. What should I get?

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>>33369445
Do you actually think I care about your approval? Cute.

>>33369489
Dry-rubbed doggo on a stick.

>>33369436
succ
>>33369446
Looks dank. I'll look into it.

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>>33369100
Yep.

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>>33369393
And I will forever hold it against them for making me spend my GBPs on it

>>33369435
I reported him and suggested they should hold on to it for a month. Cindy laughed hard.

>>33369498
I don't see that on the menu.

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>>33369100
>>33369505
tfw surefire will never make an XC1 in tan

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>>33369489
sweet and sour chicken is what i just had

>>33369491
such a reply was proof enough that you do
>opaque AWM

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>>33369507
I got mine for free :^

>>33369491
You replied, so you did pookie.

>>33369521
Spook BTFO

>>33369445
>big ass dot
>mbus
>keymod
no anon

>>33369515
Ugh. Pretentious fake chink shits.

Get the General Tso's Chicken then.

>>33369532
It hasn't been that long since you had keymod on your rifle.

>>33369536
I had that last night :(

>>33369547
at least he fixed it

>>33369548
Quit eating shitty Chinese food at Panda Express you fat fuck.

>>33369547
>>33369558
This. My sbr upper is in the mail rn, I think you'll like it. ^;

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>>33369521
How else do you remind anon they're opinions dont matter?

>>33369561
It's not panda express and I do what I want.

>>33369561
have they put eggs back in their fried rice yet?

>>33369548
Sweet and sour pork. Better get dumplings to go with it, though. Need some savory to break things up.

>>33369558
It's still the point that he bought a keymod rail. It's like fucking a nigger, the taint will never go away.

>>33369561
Panda is delicious

>>33369586

Orange Chicken with Chow Mein 4 lyfe.

>>33369561
Panda express rules they give you so much damn food
Or ""food""

>>33369607
OC and Sweet fire chicken breast is my go2

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>>33369586
their shrimp is like gellatin in a shrimp mold with "flavoring"

>>33369577
>dumplings
steamed or fried?

If he wasn't a total pleb he'd find his local thai house and get a massive helping of pad thai with chicken, extra peanuts, extra hot.

>>33369631
I could do that too.

>>33369415
>>33369421
Stay mean

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fug

>>33369621
fried. all day erry day.

>all this talk of asian food
>no mention of best asians

Low energy, all of you

>>33369639
That didn't take long.

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>Chinese food

Buncha slack jawed faggots round here.

>>33369570
(You) deprivation

>>33369582
i've had about 5 keymod rails over years

>>33369649
>best asians
There's no Japanese restaurants nearby.

>>33369649
You mean the dog/cat eaters?

>>33369635
Since I had to recommend it, I'm in need now too, fugg. I'll see you bitches later, it's lunchtime.

>>33369618
I like the honey walnut shrimp desu

>>33369631
>tai
ew

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>>33369639

>>33369656
>Japanese
You tried

The only things Japs do best is sushi, Vietnamese food a best

>>33369662
Yes

>>33369655
>i've had about 5 keymod rails over years
And here I thought you were cool.

>>33369639
still requiring photo evidence of x24s being used on block iis

i'm going to have to issue a warning

>>33369673
>Vietnamese
Ew, no. Also I don't even think there is a single vietnamese restaurant in my state

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>>33369639
>SHV

>>33369586
it's my favorite endangered species to eat

>>33369673
Fucking gook

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>>33369671
every time I eat it I get a headache like an hour later.
>>33369655
tru
>>33369649
gas station sushi a best

>>33369639
Cool

>>33369690
>burris
>harris
>non gucci trigger

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>>33369685
>a single vietnamese restaurant in my state
Poor you. Vietnamese food is some of the best Asian I've ever had

>>33369700
>gas station sushi a best
I've lost any amount of respect for you that I could possibly have ever had
Can you believe someone paid 180 for my UBR stock?

>>33369673
>Vietnamese
asian nigger

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>>33369700
>gas station sushi
kroger has pretty alright sushi desu

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>>33369690

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>>33369690
buttstock looks uncomfortable desu

>>33369692
I knew you were asian. How did the interview go

>>33369733
>looks uncomfortable
That only matters if the rifle has ever felt a shoulder.

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>>33369730
>>33369725
What? You're telling me you dont like diarrhea?

>>33369730
I enjoy their sushi a decent amount, they have authentic yellow people working the counter too.

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>>33369752
>not going out and catching blackfin tuna and softshell crab to make your own sushi

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>>33369752
no
and if you ever wear your fucking wireless headset into the bathroom for that i'm muting you for a month

>>33369737
not happen yet, @ 1:20

I'm getting sweet and sour pork with fried dumplings.

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>>33369772
sounds tasty desu
>>33369774
thats my secret qb, im always in the bathroom

>>33369772
>softshell crab
>sushi

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hello /arg/, I had some questions for my upcoming """"""GUCCI""""" build i'm putting together since i finished my ak.
Is there any noticeable difference between lower parts kit and buffer parts kit? Also what is a good barrel for a 5.56 in preferably 1:7 or 1:8 inch? I've looked around a bit and a lot of people are recommending the BCM barrels.
Here's what i ordered so far
>matching billet MEGA upper and lower
>Geissele super charging handle and the 15inch Geissele rail
>Cryptic bolt carrier gorup
>Geissele SSA trigger
>compm4 with larue mount

>>33369795
>Is there any noticeable difference between lower parts kit and buffer parts kit?
if it all fits and works you're good

BCM has the highest most perfect QC in the entire industry, there is literally nothing better

>>33369791
>softshell crab
>not pairing well with sushi

>>33369789
It's great, you don't even have to cook softshells, you can just pick them out of the water and eat them

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>>33369718
>>33369732
>>33369733
y-you too

Since we're on the topic of lights, what's the best budget light for my AR and/or AK? Anything good below $75? Below $50?

>>33369788
Good work.

>>33369829
I like that one. Clean gats are best gats.

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>>33369730
>>33369700
Whole Foods has the best ready made sushi I've ever had

Had a entire tray of it and some vegan buffalo chicken for lunch this weekend

Fresh as fuck

>>33369831

A single cartridge is pretty cheap.

>>33369831
PA lights.

>>33369856
>vegan buffalo nuggets
I'm sure all that estrogen in the soy at least compliments your HRT

fuck all you I'm going to chick fil a

>>33369207
Yeah, it's not even close. Supposedly they're shit though so...

>>33369856
>vegan buffalo nuggets

>>33369884
Good call

>>33369884
I hate that place. I hate how fucking nice the employees have to pretend to be.

>>33369909
Place feels wholesome to me.

Fukkin fagits. All of yous are fagits.

>>33369782
gltbh

>>33369922
The people working there probably want to kill themselves daily

>>33369929
you can leave now

>>33369937
I seriously doubt the cheery white high school students that work at mine feel that way

>>33369909
The ones here are full of qts and they have nice lemonade.

>>33369939
Make me fagit. You're all talk big boy.

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Well rip off my nuts and call me Susan. I can finally get an Ar-15 in my state. I guess those fudds at ruger finally proved their worth. What modifications would you make to this rifle?

http://www.ruger-firearms.com/products/ar556/specSheets/8511.html

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Chinese is disgusting.

>>33369523
All this tells me is that you're a scrub who didn't get a retarded fuckhuge GHOST sticker along with it

Do PMC's offer some sort of basic training?

>>33370001
You aren't going to become a PMC anon

>>33370001
You might as well just become a mall cop tbhfam

>>33370012
Not interested in becoming a PMC, just interested in receiving some sort of training.

My government does not offer any sort of training, while joining the army isn't something I really wanna do.

>>33369971
Id make it into a Recce

So what's a good budget light? I was thinking about getting a Surefire G2 and an offset rail mount. Haven't bought anything from Surefire since the days of halogen bulbs though.

>>33370022
What country?

>>33368961
Colt OEM1 on sale for $749

Seems like a decent price

>>33370022
When we dumbass civilians in the us want that, we take carbine courses, that would be the best bet if you have access to such a thing.

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>>33369899
>>33369878
it tastes better then really chicken

>>33370030
I have multiple citizenship's, and both countries would require me to give up either to do it. Or so I was told.

>>33370044
Thanks, I'll check those out. They seem to be more weapon handling classes. Anyone know anything that covers other skills that would be obtained during basic training.

>>33370087
>They seem to be more weapon handling classes. Anyone know anything that covers other skills that would be obtained during basic training.
Playing lots of vidya

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>>33369856
>Vegan Buffalo Nuggets

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>buying KAC
>supporting people like this

I hope you are proud of yourselves.

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>>33370137
>Implying Meal Team Six isn't protecting your Constitutional right to supersize it around the clock
Show some respect, those men are willing to diabetus for their country.

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>>33370122
its so fucking good

>>33370202
Literally tofu

>>33370202
It's tofu and it's packed with estrogen

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>>33370137
Where did you find this picture? Delete it immediately, that's a violation of global rule 4.

>>33370163
Kek'd have my (You)

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>>33370216
>>33370208
yeah and its fucking good

>>33370223
How's the HRT coming along?

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>>33370219
He's too skinny to be you Burt.

>>33370163
Kek

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>>33370242
very good, people are calling me ma'am instead of ''aahhh si-ma-hey friend"

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>>33370250
Yeah, too skinny, that's not me anyway. I was just kidding.

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>>33370202
>"poor"
>"I live like shit"
>buys sushi and vegan fag food from overpriced hipster specialty grocery store
Just, Fluffs, just.

>>33370320
it's the modern nu-male life

>>33370320
There's no hope for fluffers.

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>>33370320
its has 18 dollars worth of food

>>33368961
finally proofs.
>TLR-1 is goat

>>33369678
already posted in the last thread

r u dum

is there any reason to not trust an aim point pro?
would i be better off with a 1-4x scope.

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>>33370342
>its has 18 dollars worth of food

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Vasolbitch got his trigger guard and Eokek in the mail at work today so he's going to finally post here with his totallyfinished Block 2 clone. I need you guys to be polite, courteous, and offer constructive criticism. Let's make our new tripfriend feel welcome in /k/'s best general.

>>33370342
Just because it costs $18 doesn't mean it's $18 worth of food dude

>>33370363
I hope he breaks an ear.

>>33370357
>is there any reason to not trust an aim point pro?
They're pretty much bomb proof

>would i be better off with a 1-4x scope.
That's up to you

>>33370373
You have no fucking idea how much I want that to happen. And that it happens in the TS.

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>>33370350
i had to go back and fucking find it
what unit is this

are you going to get the awful rail covers too?
hmm whats this other larue mount i see

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>>33370360
>Hawaiian rolls- 9.98
>vegan buffalo nuggets- 5.49
>kombucha- 3.85

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>>33370363
>I need you guys to be polite, courteous, and offer constructive criticism

>>33370382
He wouldn't get off my ledge and now I wish him the worst.

>>33370387
offset red dot

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>>33370394
>offset red dot
he'll have a use for that T1

>>33370387
>are you going to get the awful rail covers too?
no
>hmm whats this other larue mount i see
offset T1 LT724 currently backordered

>>33370402
ya. maybe i can get him to sell it to me for cheap

>>33370390
You're way overpaying. And who drinks Kombucha?

>>33370363
Fuck off old man

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>>33370387
oh its navee seels

>>33370422
fags like me

>>33370429
You going to get a NT4 and KAC can for it to match?

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muh dik

>>33370442
7/10

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>>33370442
not feeling it

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>>33370438
nah they also use the 4 prong which is more goochee anyways

>>33370442
Barf. Acog looked better.

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>>33370463
>nah they also use the 4 prong
Not on the build you posted.

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>>33370342
>$18
>For hipster snack time
You can eat pretty damn good for $10/day if you spend your money right and actually cook some shit.

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>>33370482
>build
find me the rest of this pic

>>33370442
2.5-10x?

>>33370442
Rubbish

>>33370442
That p awful tbhfam. As the king of shit tier rifles, I have to say you are giving me a run for my money as worst trip of all time.

>>33370494
That's an arfcom larper

>>33370442
move the mount up and the scope back holy fuck is that triggering

>>33370494
Are you ditching the SOPMOD for a CTR and the A2 grip for a MIAD?

>>33370489
For $10/day you can cook way too much food for lunch and still be eating better than what he is doing.

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>>33370511
no

>>33370511
Motherfucker too busy to show off his rubbish to anonymous people that he can't get shit symmetrical. Waste of a perfectly good trip.

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>>33370519

>>33370527
pretty much
i bet it's fucking canted

>>33370489
Fluffy isn't smart, since why he's poor

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>>33370531
>read manual
>place the in the rings as far forward as possible
>go to website
>see this
vs.
>listen to autistic weeaboos on 4chan
rly makes me think

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>he reads the manual

>>33370539
>needing a manual
It's just mounting a scope.

>>33370560
>buying $1800 glass and not at least flipping through the shit they give you

>>33370539
>manual

What a fagit

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Ok

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>>33370576
oh i flipped it
right into the garbage

actually back into the box
muh resale value

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>>33370587
>Morning of $1150 flashlights and $1800 optics
>Lizerd posts a vice block

>>33369325
where did you score that for 900?

i want a memestocked factory troy for memeory...

>>33370576
> $1800 glass

You are really trying to impress anonymous people hard.

No one, I repeat, no one needs $1800 glass. Now you're just being rediculous. Is your $1800 glass $1300 better than my $500 glass? Not in a million years and you know this but you feel the need to "impress".

>>33370587
>>33370602
top kek

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>>33370595
>selling a discontinued optic
i seriously hope you dont do this

>>33370602
Don't forget:
>MSD unironically buys an eokek

Fuckin tax return season is always a good time.

>>33370607
>need

WDHMBT

>>33370576
All you need to know is what the adjustments are. It's just mounting a scope.

>>33370616
> $1800 optic with literally a $4 grip.

Kill your fucking self.

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>>33370616
no my x32 you fucking punce
i was pissed i didn't get in on that $1600 sale

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>>33370624
Are you not getting anything ridiculous with your tax return money?

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>>33370607
>need
whats more autistic, buying expensive shit you'll actually use or getting upset about people posting said shit on an outdated peruvian relief carving forum

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>>33370607
>no one needs an $1800 optic
kys

how do I build a twenty pound m16 guys?
I dont want to look scrawny like other gun guys

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>>33370602
And?

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>>33370624
>tfw every year is a new tax bracket
>tfw return is lower every year than it was the last
Tax return season is just depressing these days. Hurry up and make taxes great again Trump.

>>33370651
This is not the time for poorfags

>>33370644
>Actually use

To use on what? Steel, paper, varmints? Sorry, you don't need and $1800 optic for that.

I forgot, you guys all think you're legit operators. That's right.

>upper gets delayed a week

>>33370624
>Fuckin tax return season is always a good time.
kek

>>33370639
I get like $100 back from the state, I had to pay $50 for federal taxes. Why would you let the government hold onto more of your money than they need?

You're better off taking that money and investing it and making it work for you than letting the government cut you a refund check because they took out more than they needed.

I'm going to spend that $100 on new coffee brewing shit kek.

>>33370607
you're showing your envy fucking hard, poorfaggot.

>>33370652
does seem like less
can't remember last year

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>>33370639
Ironically enough I overpaid by a lot this year, and I signed a new oil and gas lease so I have money to burn.

I'm putting in a yard though so that's kinda no. 1 priority for this spring/summer.

>>33369856
jesus christ youre broke af and shop at whole foods....

and you didnt even get the good hippie food?

for the longest time i couldent understand why everyone hated you (other than the gay anime shitposting) but this....this right fucking here deserves nothing but permaban.

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>>33370667
>caring about how strangers on the internet spend their money

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>>33370667
LEGIT OPERATING

GOTTA SAVE DEM KIDS FROM MEAN OL UNCLE DIABEETUS

>>33370670
I'm only getting 360 so it's not like mine is huge either

Enough to finish my para project tho

>>33370681
>being responsible

GAAAAAAAY

>>33370688
Do you not know where we are?

>>33370602
Embarassing desu

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>>33370360
>>33370366
>>33370489
>>33370517
>>33370533
see>>33370688

>>33370602
kek

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>>33370662
>he says, collecting unemployment checks

>>33370709
That's your buddies gun, not yours.

>>33370696
>he hasn't been pissing away money on guns for years now

Gets kinda old tbhdesufam.

I did find a python I want, but it's going to sell for a gorillion dollars.

>>33370709
>too stupid to not eat himself into poverty

>>33370716
>couldn't afford a ubr

>>33370649

Get an A2 stock and fill the cleaning kit compartment with lead.

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>>33370727
no it is his optic

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>>33370442
>>33370519
Eh.

Also
>>33370511

>>33370709
>Gets kinda old tbhdesufam
Kind of the truth fammo. Kind of the truth.

>>33370716
I'm gainfully employed mr

>>33370709
We're just "worried" for you

>>33370741
We know, you couldn't even afford a MRO

>>33370760
>we

>>33370772
"Worried"

REEEEEEEEEE still no upper

get your shit together french post colissimo

>>33370751
That's good

Changing uppers tonight.

Comp M2s for 290 shipped, should I really consider grabbing one?

>>33370814
So your rifle will go from complete garbage to mostly garbage.