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Why did the US switch from M1911 to the M9 for sidearms?

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Why did the US switch from M1911 to the M9 for sidearms?
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Too much stopping power is against the Genova Convention.
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>>33361757
Updated design, less recoil, higher capacity, NATO cartridge, more reliable, lighter
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>>33361777
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>>33361757
1911s are 2x as much $$$, plus 1,000,000 rounds are fired per terrorist killed, so small arms are mostly irrelevant today
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>>33361757
>NATO compatibility
>higher capacity
>lighter recoil
>DA/SA meant a round could be carried in the chamber with the hammer down, while with 1911s the SOP was to carry hammer down empty chamber.
I'm not saying the last one is how it worked in practice, but that was the doctrine.
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>>33361757
NATO Standardization
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>>33361801

Makes sense.
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>>33361777
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>>33361757
So you could make a bait thread.
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>>33361757
Because you're stupid and your mother is a prostitute in the plebeian areas of town.
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>>33361757
>Why did the US switch to a sidearm with twice the capacity?
ftfy
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>>33361757

Way back when I was a little babby Private, we switched from the 1911A1 to the M9.

The rank and file hated it and were told to like it.

Over a decade later and on another continent, I actually spoke to one of the officers involved in the adoption of the M9.

My understanding is that our adopting the M9 was part of a deal - Italy allowing us to deploy missiles in Italy - and that deal included Beretta building a factory in the US, tax breaks, etc...

The early issues with the M9 - aluminum/steel galling, catastrophic slide failure, reliability issues with debris and dirt fouling the exposed transfer bar on the left side... should have killed the M9 in trials. But didn't...

Never did like the M9. Much preferred the 1911A1, the SIG 228 and the M13 "Staplegun" to that pig...

But... all that occurred way above my pay grade... and it was for nothing, thanks to START I, the Reykjavík Summit and the pulling out/destruction of medium range missile systems...
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>>33361777
digits confirm .45 > 9memeilter
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>>33361757
Why did the US Army adopt striker fired pistols? Are DA/SA hammer fired pistols obsolete now?
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>>33364235

>Are DA/SA hammer fired pistols obsolete now?

Now that manufacturers have finally learned that good striker-fired triggers are not hard to make? Yeah.
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>>33364235
Strikers are cheaper, which is fine for a backup weapon.
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>>33361777
i was gonna say you're wrong but those digits say otherwise, carry on.
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I recall reports from the Korean War and accounts by WW2 Soviet troops supplied with Thompsons that .45 ACP rounds failed to penetrate thick winter clothing.
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>>33361757
Same reason the Army just switched from the m9 to the p320. No one actually knows the person in charge of the decision at the time prolly just like Berettas.
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>>33361757

1: The rest of NATO used 9mm and we wanted to use the same ammo for logistics purposes.

2: The Beretta is easier to maintain.

>>33364408

>Same reason the Army just switched from the m9 to the p320.

The P320 is lighter.

I personally hate polymer and really like the Beretta 92; but if I was marching long distance and carrying a sidearm that I'm unlikely to actually use then weight would matter to me more.
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>>33361757
The US should have adopted the Hi-Power in the 60s to appease the Other NATO nations for not adopting .280 Brit or the FAL

>>33361777
Holy fuck 9mm BTFO
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>>33364381
So the US went 40 years knowing the fuddy five can't penetrate? Doubt that.
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>>33361757
Who cares, sidearms aren't that important for a military.
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>>33364252
>good
>striker

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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>mfw I only want Beretta is because of John Woo movies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hW8Ik-U4T5g
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>>33364496
>tfw no stainless brig tac with full length acc. rail and extended beaver tail

I just want to make Wesker's pistol, is that really so much to ask?
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