Bizarre battles

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>>33346257

>During the Battle of Chosin Reservoir in 1950, mortar sections under the United States Marine Corps started to run out of mortar rounds. The radio men of these sections started requesting more rounds. There were too many nearby enemy anti-air emplacements however, and the risk that they might lose any airlifted supplies was too great, so they had to wait. After two days of waiting, all the mortar sections ran out of rounds. At this point they accidentally ordered hundreds of crates of Tootsie Roll candies instead of mortar rounds. This was because some elements of the United States military had used "tootsie rolls" as code for mortar rounds.

The military isn't well known for its logistical competence, but you'd think somebody would have given it a second thought before they airdropped pallets of candy to an encircled unit.

>>33346257
this is pretty surreal, and recent
HOW TO WIN AT ASYMMETRIC WARFARE, A PRIMER:
http://www.theverge.com/2017/3/16/14944256/patriot-missile-shot-down-consumer-drone-us-military

>>33346340
>why are we sending them so much candy?
>morale, they're probably plum tired of eating rations
>well that makes sense

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My favorite bizarre battle is Castle Itter, 1945 - Wehrmacht soldiers, resistance fighters and American units engage in a battle against the SS to rescue French politicians.

The last european air battle of WW2 was between an American L-4 Piper Cub and a German Fiesler Storch. The L-4 got the jump on the Storch and was able to avoid it's rear-facing MG by turning inside the storch's radius. The L-4 crew fired at it with their 1911's and forced it to crash-land into a hayfield, landed themselves and captured them.

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>>33346378
fucking kek

>>33346340
Who knows how many Chicoms were lured out of cover and mowed down to recover those invaluable "mortar rounds". In the last desperate stages of the Stalingrad siege, with dozens starving and freezing to death every day, the Wehrmacht got airdropped several thousand condoms.

isn't disguising a military vehicle as a civilian vehicle a war crime?

>>33346488
Yeah, because we were totally worried about war crimes in Vietnam.

>>33346488
I think this case is exempt because the CIA at the post weren't actual combats, but rather espionage units that got caught in combat

>>33346257
Probably that one time P-51 mustags fought F4U corsairs.

In 1969.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_War

>>33346506
Because espionage is totally legal?

Jesus, that's like saying it's not robbery because it's murder.

>>33346488
>implying it matters to people who shoot planes before crashing them with no survivors out of a helicopter

>>33346517
Call 911 if it bothers you so much

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>>33346506
Technically they weren't even espionage at that point - just air supply for a bunch of USAF who were disguised as civilian technicians.
Even though it was actually a CIA front company, Air America was a registered business and did actually transport things other than opium and special forces. In this instance - "Civilian" technicians to and from a radar base in Laos

You could consider this to be the greatest instance of a self-defense shooting in the world
>Hanging out in Laos, taking a break after dropping off cargo
>These guys say they're civilian... Must be a bunch of stolen valor faggots open carrying their M16s. Whatever, SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED I guess.
>Some dirty gook commies buzz you and start throwing mortars at you
>Oh hell no
>Whip out your AK47 because what kind of a freedom-loving AIR MURRICA pilot wouldn't be armed?
>Djibouti Shooty them all the way back to Saigon

>>33346488
They were pounding wooden dowels into people's ear canals; I don't think they cared too much about that technicality.

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>Lucullus, a politician of the Roman Republic, was a major commander during the Third Mithridatic War of 76–63 B.C. Hoping to attack the Kingdom of Pontus while its army was away, Lucullus was surprised to find his invasion force met by King Mithridates of Pontus himself. With the two armies on the verge of battle, a “fireball” meteorite was suddenly sighted in the sky. The molten object then slammed into the ground between the armies. Reports from each side suggest that both forces, fearing the wrath of their respective gods, fled the battlefield as quickly as they could, making the visitor from out of this world the first alien victor of a human battle.

>>33346517

A law is only as strong as the will to enforce it.

The Po-2 is also the only biplane credited with a documented jet-kill, as one Lockheed F-94 Starfire was lost while slowing down to 110mph – below its stall speed – during an intercept in order to engage the low flying Po-2

the pilot must have had the piss taken out of him to no end

>>33346309
>On 3 May, Zvonimir Čučković, an imprisoned Croatian communist resistance member who worked as a handyman at the prison, left the castle on the pretense of an errand for commander Sebastian Wimmer. He carried with him a letter in English seeking Allied assistance he was to give to the first American he encountered.
>Zvonimir Čučković
>Čučković

You cant make this up.

>>33346517
Can't steal from the dead, it's salvage.

>>33346309
looks like a movie

>>33346309
From wikipedia:
"The French prisoners included former prime ministers, generals and a tennis star. It may have been the only battle in the war in which Americans and Germans fought side-by-side. Popular accounts of the battle have called it the "strangest" battle of World War II."

>>33346517
>he believes in international law
Your life is a joke

>>33346681
There was an EF-111 that managed to get an air-to-air kill against a Mirage, while unarmed.

A Russian(?) pilot who stole a Messerschmidt that shot him down. Got hell from friendly anti-air.

Also, that US pilot that shot down his own plane.

>>33346823
i know about the middle one. it was a il-2 that got shot down.
the bottom one sounds fun. there was somthing like that with the brigend. its 20mms were in long tubes under the cockpit and gasses would build up upon firing. the gasses ignited he round that went though them

It is so much easier to think of bizarre moments at war than entire battles that are worth mentioning as such.

Maybe the british soccer attack of ww1 counts?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2816968/Incredible-story-football-kicked-No-Man-s-Land-British-soldiers-advanced-bloody-WW1-battle.html


It's not a battle, but it still warms my heart that the previous Pope, Ratzinger, was in the Hitler Jugend.

>>33346488
>>33346517
No, it's not. Furthermore, the CIA is a fully civilian organization. For example: The raid for Osama bin Laden was executed by the CIA, not the navy.
It's the same idea as the People's Volunteer Army in 'nam, but on a smaller scale with the CIA actually being a preexisting organization with real members.

>>33346257
Looking at that picture makes me want to throw up, I'm terrified of heights and that guy shooting isn't even belted to the chopper.

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>>33346823
The sparkvark mirage kill was the best.

>it just ran into the ground

>>33346378
Those in power win every time expensive munitions are used.

>>33347135
.45 stronk!

>>33346839
>the bottom one sounds fun.

It was something like firing at a 25° down angle, then diving at 45°, gaining speed, and then pulling up into the path of the rounds he just shot.

Oops.

>>33346787
>Your life is a joke
this

>>33346751
There is no movie of it, which is extremely fucked up. The story would need zero editing.

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The classic.

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These are interesting, largely just because it's Americans and Russian Communists fighting infantry vs infantry.

>>33346378
>It’s like recognizing that while a fly buzzing around is a nuisance, a fly swatter is a better solution than a shotgun.

>>33347861
Managing to kill a fly with a single 00 buck pellet from a shotgun is a feat itself.

>>33347135
now thats some stopping powah...

>>33346378
> using a $3.4 million missile to destroy a civilian drone is enormous overkill

Perhaps. If you're a hippy.

>>33347135
It's sad because in Feb 13th 1991, another EF-111 attempting the same feat against another Mirage F-1 crashed into terrain killing it's crew.

>>33347936
Speaking of middle-eastern wars, an irakian pilot managed to shoot his own Mig-21 with an IR missile during a dogfight, because he was used to the smaller heat signature of Fouga Magisters.

>>33348041
... How?

>>33346704
Chuchkovich
Doesnt even sound close to cuck.

>>33346309
>>33346412
But why?

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>>33346257
>>33346488
>>33346506


They weren't CIA spooks. They were civilian pilots who flew for Air America. The pilots were average guys. They weren't told they were flying for the CIA, but they knew it.

The helicopter wasn't painted to look like a civilian chopper, it was a civilian chopper.

A good friend of mine flew for Air America back in the late 60s.

Here is a good documentary
https://youtu.be/5qzCJrfTgms

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One of my favorite

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Palmdale

The Battle of Palmdale was the attempted shoot-down of a runaway drone by United States Air Force interceptors in the skies over Southern California in mid August 1956.

The drone won.

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>>33348722
For people who don't feel like reading alot.
Or for people who like reading green text.

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>>33346257
>Literally just gooks throwing mortar shells and bombs out of agricultural utility biplanes
Reminds me of the M.A.S.H. episode where the Norks did the same thing.

>>33346309
This HAVE to be made into a movie. This is too great.

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>>33348551
>they weren't working for the CIA, they were just working for the CIA

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>>33346517
you should write ISIS a letter informing them of all the laws they have broken.

>>33348551
>be cia
>create front airline
>name it air america

literally why the fuck did they do this

>>33349216
>Christians In Action...
>ever actually trying to be covert... ever.
pick one.

>>33346823
P-3 Orion platform achieved 4 confirmed AtA kills in its lifetime.
1 by Missile in vietnam
3 by collisions

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>>33347840
The Russian Civil War is not known enough.

>>33348722

>Kamchatka, the fleet comedian

>>33348551
That documentary is on the military history channel right now.

>>33349401
Seriously, I never even heard about it in school

>>33347927
Children in Africa could have eaten that missile!

>>33346658
v wot mVIII

>>33347840
I wish there was more about this. I wonder where the American soldiers who died were buried

>>33347818
No others may compete, not even Castle Itter

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>>33346378

>>33346488
In of itself, no. But it's a war crime to engage in combat while disguised as a civilian or a friendly combatant.

But as other Anons said, it wasn't a military vehicle, it was a privately-owned and operated transport funded by the CIA. And the CIA isn't military anyways, so it wouldn't be a war crime - just criminal (or justified) homicide to be tried under Laotian law. But most CIA clandestine ops are blatantly criminal anyways, by the law of the countries they operate in.

>>33349087
He meant the pilots themselves weren't CIA, they were just working for them. "Unwitting" contractors, essentially.

>>33346787
>espionage
>international law
No