What's with the popularity of this gun nowadays?

>>33337445
I'm sure it's used in Africa.

>>33337445
It's been popular since it came out.

>>33337445
>nowadays
grow up kiddo
Its awesome, has been since it mowed down uncle Jim-bob and even the modified 7.62 variants are awesome.
>the original brrrt before Gatlings resurrection

I mean, what's the deal with airline food anyways?

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>>33337445

Fascism is all the rage right now. Its just sexy and cool.

>>33337445
>why is one of the most prolific GPMGs ever being talked about?
gee I wonder.

>>33337445
>nowadays
niggers are now starting to drop it. Production stopped years ago.

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>>33337445

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>>33338324
>Production stopped years ago.
nope

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>You will never EVER own a Full auto MG42

Fucking terrible feel

It's a shit gun.

>Unwieldy as hell due to size and 1940's ergonomics
>Feckin' black hole when it comes to ammo - even if every guy in your squad had the magical ability to carry a bazillion extra belts, you'd
still run out of ammunition in the blink of an eye
>Overly complicated mechanism that jams all the time and requires constant maintenance
>Changing the barrel is an awkward and time-consuming task, especially if you don't have that special Guy Fieri oven mitt
>Charging handle placement doesn't allow for tacticool offhand reloads
>No rails to mount optics or other accessories
>Fucktarded bipod design

The only good thing about it the cool "ripping cloth" noise that it makes.

>>33338548
Holy shit are you literally retarded.
The barrel change takes like 4 seconds, the charging handle location is the standard for all GPMGs. If you're trying to do a tactical reload from a tripod then you're even more retarded.
The ergonomics are perfectly fine, in fact the grip/trigger group is the same as in the m240/FN MAG. The design was famous for its reliability, in fact its the OPPOSITE of complicated, especially compared to gas operated MGs, all this tells me is that you have no idea what the design actually is. Its literally as simple as can be, fucking BLOWBACK but with a delay mechanism, and the lack of optics is a non-issue, iron sights are perfectly fine for the doctrine regarding fields of fire.

You are clearly a fucking idiot and the level of confidence with which you typed that nonsense makes it even worse. Theres a fucking reason so many militaries adopted MGs influenced by the design, THEY are right, and YOU are wrong.

1000 rnds a minute.

MG3 is a 7.62 real fucking nato version and still in use.

spanish made a 5.56 version.

>>33338743
>Its literally as simple as can be

Ever tried disassembling one? The fucker has a trillion parts that take like four hours to clean.

t. assistant gunner

>>33338548
>t. dumbass who's grandpop got shredded

>>33337445
>What's with the popularity of this gun nowadays?
it has been in star wars ever since people can't stay away.

>>33337445
Ask Abu Hajaar https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM3ElTvF52I

>>33337445
Norway, uses mg3 its not the same but i think its pretty similar.
I've heard rumors they used to use old ww2 42 parts on them. but never seen this myself.

the mg3 is awesome...

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>>33338795
>Ever tried disassembling one? The fucker has a trillion parts that take like four hours to clean.
Are you retarded on purpose?

>>33338548
Why are you posting about M60?

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>>33340339
That's way too complex. You could easily lose parts of it. To demonstrate that, consider the following:

One piece is missing from this picture. Can you figure out which?

>>33340609
It appears that the barrel is missing.

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>>33340638

>>33340638
Very funny.

>>33340661
damn, /k/ is learning

>>33340638
oh you cheeky cunt

>>33340609
The shoulder thingy that goes up

>>33340609
autism

>>33340609
Hahahaha nice.

>>33340609
....Is it the bolt?

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>>33340766

>>33340706
kek

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Good solid design.

>>33340609
>Pretending they weren't retarded and just trolling, this hard

>>33338548
I award you no points, and may go had mercy on your soul.

>>33340969
Explain what I'm looking at here.

>>33341049
A double barrel MG something or other.

>>33341049
an airsoft gun

>>33340969
>>33341049
>>33341072
>>33341094
>The MG14z is a double barrel variant of the MG 3 machine gun. The MG14z enhances the firepower of military units that still issue the MG 3 or other MG 42 derivatives. It has been developed by the Tactics Group GmbH company "a low-cost alternative to Miniguns".[7][8]

FUCKING WAT

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>>33341251
yeee boi

>you will never mow down amerifats with this glorious machine while being in a comfy bunker in normandy

Why even live bros

>>33337445
This has always been my favorite. I got an M53 kit, building it soon(tm)
>>33338548
made me reply

>>33341511

>Normandy bunker
>mowing down amerifats
>oh shit breech!!!
>allies storm through
>Flamethrower team steps near windows
>Now on fire, burning alive inside my formerly comfy bunker
>I run out, on fire, towards amerifats, they don't shoot
>they let me burn
>my last glimpse of this life is an amerifat opening up some chow to heat up over my flaming body
>thanks Hitler

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>>33338548

>>33342043
Nah, flamethrowers mostly just suffocated you to death.

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>>33338548
> overly complicated mechansim
the mechanism is a very easy and uncomplicated blowback action, the design produces rarely a jam, (which btw is really impressive, given the high rate of fire) and even if, it usually can be solved by simply working the slide.

> Changing the barrel is awkward and time consuming
well, you obviously have to do it manually. Hot barrel out, cold barrel in. In & out, that may be difficult for some folks.

> no rails to mount optics
see pic

> fucktard bipod design
how else do you want to lay down with the gun ? Want to carry around a mount ?

>>33337445
How the hell did the Krauts come up with some of the coolest looking guns?

>>33342667
Experience.
Ya know how in rpg's you get xp for low level enemies?
Grind 6 million and you'll make some pretty cool shit too.

>>33341049
1200 deaths per minute x2

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It's a me, Ameli!

>>33341433
Anything zwilling makes me diamonds

>>33341433
At what point did anyone ever look at an MG42 and say "that thing needs 2x the rate of fire!"?

isnt its rpm already stupidly high?

>>33343225
Its an alternative to the minigun, so I guess that's the reason it needed to be even faster.

>>33342092
and thats somehow better?

>>33343755
>is suffocating in an oxygen deprived atmosphere better than burning to death?
...........YES?

>>33343225

960-1200rpm for an MG-42

>>33342667
Nazism and extreme nationalsim has a high focus on the aesthetic and art. Shits cash yo

>>33337445
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JenyMm8A44

im partial to the 34 myself.

>>33343031
>tfw no qt Ameli shorty to hold hnds with

>>33338787
Dugan Ashley has a video on the 5.56 version

All I know about it is that it's inaccurate as hell, and eats rounds like there's no tomorrow.

Good for suppressing attacking forces if you have all the ammo laid out for you, but if you you are the ones that are on the attack, you need your entire section to basically do nothing except carry ammo for you.

Guessing it's "popular nowadays" because Nazi fetish.

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>>33344769
You are late Lindy

>>33340609
Where did the dragon dildo go?

>>33343755
Would you rather pass out and die, or literally burn to death?

>>33343944
>>33343225
>>33341433
>>33341251
>>33340969
Very interesting..

>>33343944
Drop the rpm too 900 per action, still end up with 1800rpm, but with longer barrel life/etcetera

>>33340969
>>33341433
>BARRELS HANS, I NEED MORE BARRELS

>Rate of fire - 1,200
>Feed from 50 round belt peaces

Am I the only one who thinks it's ROF is way to high, and 50 round belts are fucking retarded?

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>>33337445
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bu3kx2HMZd0

>>33338548
Are you freakin retarded?

>Overly complicated mechanism
No it isn't - it's delayed blowback.The same thing is used on the G3
>optics on a GPMG
It's a machinegun.You don't need optics - just watch your fuckin tracer
> tacticool
Yep, you really are retarded.
>Changing the barrel
You don't need a mit for that when you simly lift the gun at a 60 degree angle and let the unlocked barrel slide out.

>>33344872

kek dumb niggers

A M240 i have plenty of expierence. An MG 42...Nada. Do you need a special tool to break it down into a detailed cleaning state? Not field strip i meaN the way it is in the pic pozted?

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>>33344982
No tool needed. It has eleven Parts for field-disassembly, and it can be made in under 40 seconds.
this retard >>33338795 has got no clue

>>33338548
My mate did his service with the Danish military and was the MG3 lackey. Quickly ran your points by him on Skype, his thoughts as follows

>Unwieldy as hell due to size and 1940's ergonomics
Absolutely

>Feckin' black hole when it comes to ammo - even if every guy in your squad had the magical ability to carry a bazillion extra belts, you'd still run out of ammunition in the blink of an eye
Not really a problem in Danish doctrine, MG3 is very easy to squeeze off short bursts with, and the rest of the squad does a lot of supporting fire too, and most importantly the MG3 "kills whatever it sees"

>Overly complicated mechanism that jams all the time and requires constant maintenance
Mechanism is very simple. Yes it can jam in ways that are hard to fix under stress, but the same is true for any belt fed

>Changing the barrel is an awkward and time-consuming task, especially if you don't have that special Guy Fieri oven mitt
He never had a problem with it

>Charging handle placement doesn't allow for tacticool offhand reloads
"lol"

>No rails to mount optics or other accessories
That can be done

>Fucktarded bipod design
Yes it's not so nice, need to learn to work with it

Overall he said he liked it personally, and likes it more than FN MAG types definitely

Quick reminder that the MG 42 was designed by a company that mainly produced desk lamps

>>33337445
It fires a full power rifle cartridge at rates which are literally insane.

It has an effective target range out to 3500m with a scope and tripod. Yes three thousand five hundred meters; over two fucking miles.

It is used to this very day and rivals or surpasses any man portable machine gun ever fielded.

>>33345176
Those must be some quality desk lamps.

>>33345176
I learned maintenance on an M2 made by the sparkplug division of General Motors.

>>33338222

Nazi Germany getting fucked ruined any chance of Hugo Boss becoming normal wear for Americans.

>>33338743
No they are not. They might have been good for the time, but today they are not.
The gun is extremely front heavy when carrying. Walking fire is impossible, while more modern gpmg allow for somewhat aimed shots to suppress the enemy. Not a chance to defend yourself while you are on the move. It's also unwieldy, as there is little to offer you a nice grip up forward. The bipod tends to drop out of it's retention and wiggles around then.
To change barrel, you need a glove, as there is no handle on it. Closing the trap door on the barrel requires quite some force. It's doable for a strong and trained trooper, but it's a bit heavier than it should be, considering an army generally.
Also you need to cock the gun in order to put it on safe. That is another feature where things can go wrong, that isn't really necessary anymore today.
Disassembly is fine I guess, but it's more complicated than an assault rifle and disassembly of the bolt wasn't part of the basic training during my days (learned it anyways and taught it to the guys of the infantery platoon that was part of my staff company).
Also getting the barrel bearing out the front is a task that is much more complicated than pulling out a gas piston. Again, this is stuff that one can learn, but armies are not full of /k/ommandos, but of /b/tards on /pol/acks.
Another issue, that is not directly related to the gun, are the containers for the 2nd barrel. They tend to flip open when you are moving innawoods and the barrel falls out. Almost lost a spare barrel once ... Other troopers resorted to tie the thing shut with military duct tape, which is a non-option in actual combat.

>>33337445
because the spandau has a nozzle that sprays bullets everywhere and its a good area denial weapon

>>33337458
there can't be very many MG42s left to still be used in combat

7.92 Mauser isn't even a common round outside the West anymore

>>33345252
>It is used to this very day and rivals or surpasses any man portable machine gun ever fielded.

But which ones surpass the MG42??

>>33345466
>but armies are not full of /k/ommandos, but of /b/tards on /pol/acks.

sad truth

>>33345466
>Walking fire is impossible, while more modern gpmg allow for somewhat aimed shots to suppress the enemy
This is one aspect I think the M60 series does really well

>>33338372
ZINDABAD !

>>33337445
Despite having a thousand small little stamped parts, it's some solid engineering.

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>>33337445
>What's with the popularity of this gun nowadays?

The MG34 was actually far better, but more expensive and complex.

I'd really love to have an Ameli however.

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The slightly modernized MG3 is still in heavy use.

>>33345761
RPM still around 1,200 ??

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>>33345771
>RPM still around 1,200 ??

The Ameli? 1200 with a light bolt, 850-900 with the heavier bolts. The latter being more practical obv.

The MG34? The early versions actually had a RPM selector on the grip. Going from 600 to 1000 rpm.

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You're going to love this. Trust me. What you're seeing now is my normal state.

>>33337445

This is a Super Saiyan.

>>33345766

And this. This is what is known as a Super Saiyan that has ascended past a Super Saiyan.

>>33340969
>>33341433

And this.

is to go

Even

Further

Beyond.

>>33344860
those 50 round belts came 250 to a can linked into one 100, and one 150 belt
you could like up as many as you wanted

>>33344449
The Ameli, while similar to the MG3, is mechanically different. The MG3 is a short recoil, roller lock mechanism which its barrel and barrel extension reciprocates to the rear to unlock the action. The Ameli is roller delayed blowback, which the barrel remains fixed and relies on both the gas pressures and the recoil to delay the action before closing the bolt once gas pressures are in a safe level.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylfEccw5wUU

>>33340290
the army is swiching to the minimi now i think the navy still uses it thou

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>>33337445

>>33345477
There was a newer model that used NATO rounds.

>>33347879
not an MG42 though generally, although I am aware some MG42s were simply converted I doubt they are still in service

it's like the PKM and PKP; essentially the same gun, but minor differences enough to make them distinct models

>>33337445
Weight and, iirc, difficulty of mounting optics (which compounds the weight issue)

>>33338372
Damn, look at Osama Bin-Lifting there

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>>33338548
5/10 for making me post

>>33345801
I am insanely fascinated by this thing.

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>>33345801
>A minigun that uses the MG42 top cover for feeding / delinking

Good god...they did it... they fucking did it

>>33344769
>you need your entire section to basically do nothing except carry ammo for you.

That's what the ww2 germans used to do. The main squad firepower was in the MG, with the rest of the squad carrying ammo and doing basically suppression fire.

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>>33345801

>>33348656

It's not really a minigun. The barrels automatically rotate when one is in danger of overheating, then it keeps firing through that one until the next is needed. Basically the Germans took the MG42/MG3's quick change barrel system and put it on steroids.

>>33349324
>The barrels automatically rotate when one is in danger of overheating, then it keeps firing through that one until the next is needed.
How much weight and complexity did this add? I feel like they'd be better off giving an MG42/MG3 a water jacket.

>>33349364

>Weight

Who cares, it's on a tank.

>Complexity

Who cares, it's German.

>Water jacket

Now you're speaking my language.

>>33348843
that is still what any modern and competent army does.

>>33345501
Correction, recruits are /b/tards and /pol/acks (and DI's). Veterans are /k/ommandos.

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>>33347245
Neat

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>>33345801

>>33342667
The mg34 had a more utilitarian look with the drilled out barrel shroud.
The mg42, as far a i know, was designed by a guy who owned a metal stamping plant and made decorative street lamps. He re-designed the mg34 and had no experience with machine guns prior.

>>33349446
>>33349364
How much coax ammo do tanks even have?

>>33353846
couple thousand

>>33353863
>>33353863
Yeah just googled it, like ten thousand. A watercooled machinegun makes sense there.

>>33353846

2-3 thousand rounds?

>>33340609
the assault clip

>>33353893
The only problem with a watercooled machinegun is the water jacket can be damaged and leak all the water.. but they can be armored and even if they leak the machine gun will still work, it'll just overheat quicker.

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>>33349324
That makes it rock even fucking harder

>>33349446
>water jacket
Muh nigga

>>33340969
Is there a video of this thing actually shooting? I ask because it looks like more of a mock up then an actual firing weapon