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Would the Ruger Alaskan loaded with 44 specials be a good choice for home defense?
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Short answer, no
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>>33322593
sure i guess. be prepared for blast lololol
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>>33322619
What?
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>>33322619
44 specials would be low recoil in this particular gun.
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>>33322644
>>33322619
>>33322623
he's talking about muzzle flash and literal blast from the report of firing.

125gr .357 magnum has almost a hundred years of 1 hit stops out of 3-4" revolvers. most .44 special loads are anemic despite what it's capable of. buffalo bore 240gr pills loaded on top of the sort of powder to get to 950fps is what you would want in a performing .44 special, but all that is largely a waste as the .357 is both cheaper, more versatile, and already has plenty of history as a defensive handgun round.
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>>33322668
4" is really the minimum for .357

>>33322593
>Is a low capacity, high recoil revolver a good choice for home defence?

What do you think? It's better than a not-a-gun(tm) though
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>>33322697
>high recoil
see >>33322644
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carrying is mostly about whatever is comfy mayn

my dream is to carry a modern version of a lemat
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>>33322721
fuck im retarded i thought this thread was about carrying

for home defense shotguns, preferably pump, and modern sporting rifles are the only right answers, but if you want to use revolvers then you should get like 5 of them and place them next to you.. preferably with 8 shot cylinders

and i just realized carrying a 44 special is stupid because you can get an 8 shot 357 for the same cylinder size
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>>33322709
.44 special is still high enough recoil to make it less than practical.
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>>33322737
Ol1911?
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>>33322828
yeah xD i like the grip he has on the "pug" 327

if i were him i would put that grip on the tr8 and call it a day!

heres a link to the video just in case:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_fGAq_TuyU

nutnfancy, as spergy as he is, has a cool video titled revolver porn that came out recently that has some cool information and configurations for revolvers.. i think his son tactical doodle put boot grips on a his TR8 actually which is a cool idea for carry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkSLdvX3t68
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>>33322593
Just buy an ak "Pistol"
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>>33323122
I'm in California.
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>>33322737
Ignoring barrel length.
I went with a .44spl cause it's a snubby. A full power load like a magnum is going to suffer velocity draw backs, excess fireballs and noise unburnt powder. If you try to drop down a load 44 just seems better than 38 since both are likely to be tran sonic why wouldn't you go with a fatter/heavier bullet? even if you say screw it and go for heavier faster rounds despite blinding yourself with muzzle flash and more recoil you're probably only going to push the bullet close to the sound barrier where it's going to destabilize/wobble if it is hitting the barrier and dropping back down although that'd be less of an issue at close range I'm not a mathematician or have any testing equipment to figure out how quickly that's going to happen as soon as it comes out the barrel so adding bullet weight instead since there is a ceiling to how much speed to add just seems like the next best way to improve a rounds effectiveness.
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>>33323266
yeah but for the same size cylinder you could have 8 rounds of 357/.38 special and 38 special is a proven round out of snub nose, BUT if you think its worth it to have 6 rounds of 44 special vs 8 rounds of 38 special or 357 then that is your choice

i would always go with volume of fire over round effectiveness when it comes to revolvers because the difference between 6 and 8 is 1/3 basically.. imagine if you had the choice between 6 rounds of 45 acp vs 8 rounds of 9mm, but with autoloaders that is not usually the case. It is usually 10 vs 12 or something like that which is a smaller ratio of volume of firepower.

Youre always going to want a follow up shot, not to mention the chances of missing, and why would you want a snub nose for home protection? Even wen it comes to carrying barrel length is usually less of an issue than overall thickness, but that depends on your meth of carry.

If that is the only gun you have then by all means use 44 special but, personally, if i had the choice i would rather have 8 rounds for defense against humans any day. And if thats the only gun you have then you might as well practice reloading often.. if you buy some snap caps you can build muscle memory while you watch tv for example

Also a cheap pump action with a youth stock is going to serve you better for home defense, most likely.

Here is a cool video with gun jesus highlighting the effectiveness of a punp shotgun for home D and you can leave it with an empty chamber if you want although revolvers are pretty trustworthy left loaded ofc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYjThckYqBQ
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I'd load it with the heaviest .44 special you can find, or the weakest magnums, but yeah. A snubby's a weird choice for HD when longer barrels are readily available but it's by no means out of the question.
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>>33322593
If you already have the Alaskan for hunting and can't afford a more practical home defense sidearm, hot .44 Spl is a fine loading to keep around for the two-legged predators.

That being said, if you're just looking to buy a gun specifically for home defense, the Alaskan is a terrible first choice.
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>>33323329
also that video highlights the "surgical precision" of a shotgun at close range.. they setup a test where they shot a mock-up criminal in a hostage type situation

pic related is the scene in tarentino's kill bill with the famous quote
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoeOHKozuFM&feature=youtu.be&t=71

this might be total fuddlore but rock salt shells are also a thing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYPq829sHSQ&feature=youtu.be&t=97

and another famous shotgun movie scene from "no country for old men":
https://youtu.be/PKJiwcGvaqI?t=100

and another from "no country for old men"
https://youtu.be/AnJ0-Ts6gh4?t=209

I know movies dont prove shit but every time i have handled a shotgun I felt like they were naturally "pointy" and something that I would feel confident actually shooting during a moment of high stress.. also the only time ive shot an animal was with a shotgun and even though im not a great shot by any standard my reaction time was very low
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>>33322697
>4" is really the minimum for .357
Depends. Short barrel loads do pretty well. The secret is to use a long bullet, like a 158 or 180 grain or a 125 grain solid copper hollow point. The longer bullet means it takes far less powder to reach Magnum pressure. I use 125 grain cor Bon DPX solid copper hollow in a 2 1/4" SP101 for carry. Recoil and muzzle flash is comparable to .38 Special +P. It chronos about 1400 fps which works out to about 540 ft lbs of muzzle energy and consistently open up to about .8" while penetrating around 16" in gel. I do a lot of range time with he gun and am confident wit it at self defense ranges.
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>>33323329
>BUT if you think its worth it to have 6 rounds of 44 special vs 8 rounds of 38 special or 357 then that is your choice
[spoiler]cough5cough[/spoiler]

Have put some thought into getting a 12gauge. Kind of been keeping an eye out for a pump if I spotted a deal. Even though I'd prefer an u/o, or long recoil action.
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>>33323266
Remember, the secret to a good snubbie load is a heavy bullet. yo should be running a minimum of 270 grain out of a .44 Snub gun, Alternately, Speer loads a nice 200 grain short barreled .44 Magnum load that is really a hot .44 Special in a Magnum case.
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>>33323463
5 rounds = 1/4th pound of lead for my regular
Not too keen on hp's so I gravitated toward heavier ones. Been kind of interested in some of those solid copper bullets but they seem so light I been taking a wait and see approach to those.
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>>33323455
>[spoiler]cough5cough[/spoiler]


and auto 5 would be a great range gun and so would an O/U but its hard to beat the practicality of a pump action for defensive purposes.. they are like revolvers in that you manually cycle the action and also they have a tendency to put shooters into a sort of cadence with how they are operated and it helps to encourage people not to waste ammo. Also they cannot be beat for reliability, but make sure you get a shotgun which is not prone to short shucking..

Another benefit is that they can be left without a round in the chamber and with one quick pump they are ready to go!

I know that two rounds for home defense is not really enough and the problem with auto shotguns is that they are kind of sketchy with light ammunition, and I just know personally I would prefer a pump.

I have only watched reviews about the maverick shotguns which sell for 150 dollars or something like that but right now i think used mossbergs or remingtons should be found for about 250 for a good example.. and of course if a seller is selling his used shotgun for 300 you can probably talk him down to 250-270

i guess my only advice would be to watch videos and study the differences between the major models or go for a 150 dollar maverick mystery shotgun although they might not be that bad.. and look for a good deal on a nice used pump action

https://www.armslist.com/posts/6580090/san-francisco-california-shotguns-for-sale--winchester-1200

there is a nice winchester 1200 on armslist california and that is supposedly one of the smoothest cycling shotguns of all time!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiCssNFYIAc

here is a video about a drum fed pump
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtDYVNtOndc

and there is always the double pump action.. pic related

or a ksg
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>>33322593
>home defense
>tiny gun that's only tiny because it's meant to be carried out of the house
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