.327 fed mag???

>>33316405

I read you can use .32acp in them. Don't know if that's true but that's still rather common in comparison to 327, not IDEAL for defense, but common in enough to always find ammo for the gun.

If you want a great carry gun, go 327.
If you want a SHTF gun, get 357.
However, you should be reloading if you are at all concerned about SHTF.

For the tiny amount of energy you give up going from 357 to 327, you will get an extra round and less recoil. It is the best modern carry revolver round. It's just not common due to ignorance and fuddism, so combat that with a skill and ability you should have anyways by reloading.

>>33316495
I know you know you don't know what you're talking about, but you have no idea how much you don't know what you are talking about.
Wew

327 fed mag can also shoot 32 S&W, 32 S&W Long, 32 H&R Magnum.

>>33316596
And those are supposedly even rarer, though that must be part of "not knowing how much he doesn't know what he's talking about".

>>33316405
I'm not sure if the slight increase in velocity can make up for the lack of impact area. Just get a 357 mag.

>>33316495
nope. 32 acp won't index far enough back to engage the firing pin.

on mine, anyway.

>>33316405
go ahead and don't buy it. I've got one and i love it, but i decided to start reloading. you can order ammo for it, and it'll be about what 357 goes for.
but the only ammo i've seen IRL is 85 grain reduced recoil hollowpoints from federal.

for over a dollar a round. you could carry that fine, because carry guns almost don't actually require any bullets at all.

but that's not ok for practicing.

>>33316922
look a faggot.


>>33316405
one last thing, i got my gun for about 175$ less than what a comparable wheelgun would have sold for. ruger vs ruger, the 327 cost me a lot less. That's why i feel fine dropping cash on reloading setup. cause i'm poor.

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>>33316922

>>33317068

How long of a barrel does it need to really get the most out of the bullets?

>>33316405
rimless version when?

>>33316405
Why do you people keep asking about pistols for SHTF purposes?

>>33316405
32 calibers can do the same job as 9mm or 45...with proper ammo. In a few decades when shit ammo stops being sold, and good guns get made in the caliber it will dominate.

For now, it is unfortunately a dead meme.

>>33317161
this dude says 4-6 is fine by his chrono

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhbJc-uQ9K0

>>33317362

According to BBTI 8 inches is pretty ideal, with 6 being great and 4 being good

How's the kick compared to 38 special defensive loads?

Get the gun and a Lee loader whack-a-mole kit. Sort of tedious, but not bad once you get the hang of it.

>>33317161
Ruger's original 3 1/16th bbl put it at plus 100 FPS and minus something like 30 foot pounds compared to a 357 load from a (IIRC) 4 inch bbl.
You can get a 4.20 inch sp101 which is a bit long for carry but really nice.

>>33317550
The 4" SP101 is actually the only .327 variant in current production.

>>33317550

I'm thinking about it, my body is pretty lankly so I'm more worried about thickness than length. Looking for a revolver for getting groceries and what not at night, in case a ruffian wishes to harm me and grabs the gun. It won't jam, look at what happened to Zimmer.

I think I'm going to have to wait till I get a reloading set up though.

>>33317257

They are too dumb to just buy a gun for a certain purpose, and must have one fill all purposes, no matter how outlandish they are.

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>>33317257
I mean I don't have a problem with revolvers in that application per se. But why a belly gun?

If I want a belly gun I'll get something with less power, that's fine. If I want something with this kind of power, though, I'll get a full-sized revolver. I can just barely see a logical case for that as a concealed carry weapon but when SHTF I don't see concealed carry still being a thing.

You can get an 8 shot 357 mag. Why would you get a stupid caliber that you will never find ammo for because "you don't want to be limited to 5 rounds"

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>>33316405
I've had a .327 LCR for about a year.

I like mine a lot. Ammo isn't impossible to find, but most manufacturers only make a limited amount so you have to snag it up when you find it. Reloading components aren't hard to find. It uses small rifle primers and the typical powders you'd use for other magnum revolver calibers, and bullets can be ordered or cast.

I've put .32 SWL, .327 Fed Mag, and .32 ACP through mine with no trouble other than lead fowling from cheap Aguila .32 SWL making my .327 cases stick in the chambers. The recoil from full house .327's is kinda snappy, but what would anyone expect from such a light gun? Nobody in my area stocks .32 H&R Mag, so I haven't tried that out.

When I have the money and come across one of the 3" SP-101's I'll probably pick one up too.

Overall I like the cartridge and the gun.

>>33317704
>lead fouling from ,32 S&W L causing longer cartridges to stick

same shit happened to my Nagant Revolver when I tried .32 S&W L

>>33317744
Yeah. My friend got me a .32 boresnake and I take that to the range now to help with that problem.

>>33317068
>>33317138
Not an argument.

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>>33316405
Doesn't the .327 face the same massive problem of not being different enough as the .41 magnum? (or very much like .45 GAP) Even though it isn't a "middle ground" round?

Which sounds like it would mean that something like a .297 magnum should have a better chance, 2 extra rounds instead of one, and still more at bigger sizes. Combined with whatever other interesting uses could be devised with a significantly novel round.

>>33319633
the trouble with the .327 is that it's better, but not better enough.

let's be honest, anybody swinging a wheelgun has a little bit of fudd in their heart.

327 is better, but it's got to fight tradition and it hasn't been winning. it's not really good enough to win.

although i heard somebody is going to do a lever gun...

>>33318437
>>33317744
fouling from cast lead bullets is preventable.

you probably have lead that's too soft, but there are different things that can cause problems, from my research

>>33319633
So basically you want a shorter 30 carbine? I am curious what kind of performance that'd get.

>>33319633
Actually, now that I see how 30 carbine performs out of short barrels, I can tell the answer is that it'd be shit. It seems the only decent 30 cal pistol bullet ever made was the Tokarev, but then if it's that fat you're right back to choosing 9mm instead. 32 calibers on the other hand can be made to perform as well as 9mm.

>>33319633
>>33319940
>>33320146
>>33320284

And that's how they both discovered the 7,62tokarev

>>33320517
Which is shit.

>>33316905
H&R mag isn't rare that's practically a common small game cartridge I always see that stuff around when I'm looking for acp. The other two I've never seen though.

I am 327 nerd. I own sp101s in 3 and 4 inch. I also have a taurus and a ruger lcr in the caliber. I got into handloading to save money. Great weapons and great caliber.

>>33319633
.327 is one of those great rounds that's unfortunately caught up in the vicious cycle that all new calibers face. People don't buy it because they fear that they can't get ammo for it easily or can't get ammo for it cheaply without reloading, and their fears become true because they didn't go out and buy the gun.

The guy I share an office with has a hard on for 327... He also has a Ruger gunsight scout, and an A2 upper with a red dot mounted on top so he is retarded and his opinions are disregarded.

>>33321320
>People don't buy it because they fear that they can't get ammo for it easily or can't get ammo for it cheaply

I've seen .327 on the shelf only a couple times in its entire existence. Was surprised to see some at a big box a short time ago.

Also, due to Federal's wisdom, brass for the damned thing was impossible to find for quite a long time, so unless you were content to reload the same 20 cases from the one box of ammo you found at retail until they wore out, you were stuck with shitty (and about as common) H&R mag brass...so you couldn't get the full fun out of it.

>>33316405
It's a good gun OP, but the LCR is probably better for carry (despite the 2" barrel, it's still stronger than 38+P).

>>33321320
>Shooting a revolver
>Not reloading

Whew laddies...

>>33321476
What's the limiting factor on 38+p? It seems like they're should be more than enough case capacity to make some friggin hot loads and most actions should be similar to 357...

>>33321504
It's just a lower pressure round, half that of 9mm or .357 magnum.

You can load it up to .357 pressures if you want, but that's a pretty retarded idea since you need a .357 revolver anyway, and you can easily asplode the gun b/c a safe .357 powder load will overpressure the shorter case volume.

It's good for low recoil, but they make low recoil .327 rounds if the full loads are too snappy.

>>33319993
If you read my original post, it was really cheap factory ammo. If I was casting the bullets myself it probably wouldn't be for .32 SWL.

>>33320284
Who says it would have to be shorter than .30 but otherwise alike? Why not just as long as .30 carbine, but more tweaked for shorter barrels?

>>33319940
>>33321320
Maybe a .327 *maximum* would alleviate that!

>>33321355
>.327
Good man.
>GSR
They're actually pretty handy little carbines.
>A2 upper
Nothing wrong with that, A2 irons are pretty good.
>red dot on an A2 upper
Okay, now he's lost me.

>>33317583

Too dumb? Try too poor.

>>33321632
You can't just tweak it and make it work well out of a short barrel. Lack of velocity is the exact reason pistols have to use such heavy bullets compared to something like 556.

>>33322057
And yet .327 is extremely like .30 carbine, though even a little smaller, particularly shorter.

>>33322274
.327 has a higher pressure ceiling too.

>>33322274
327 is 6mm shorter. 30 carbine is, performance wise, not practical in compact revolvers, 327 is.

>>33316405
Will this be your first firearm purchase, by chance?

>>33320284
Wouldn't packing the same charge into a shorter (higher pressure) cartridge improve performance in short barrels?

>>33322611

OP here, no, I already own an 8 shot. 357 smith and a .38 special snub nose also from smith when it comes to revolvers

>>33322717
Sure, except that 30 carbine is already quite a high pressure round.

>>33325168
But then making it shorter and similarly pressured but generally more optimized, like able to accept more bullet types, should especially tend to make it worse for longer barrels.

It would have to be made better overall for handguns, because that would be the only way to go, it's not like anyone would want a new .30 for rifles.

>>33326736
>I tell you it can't just be made to work well out of shorter barrels
>I show how your proposed solution wouldn't work
>you go right back to "just optimize it okay", without explaining how

>>33317161
A sealed chamber rifle, honestly. In revolvers the benefits for each ammo are all wildly varied, but 6" and up is consistently higher for most types. 2" is considerably weaker for revolvers unless you get a 9mm. Centerfire pistol rounds just perform better out of short barrels.

.327 was designed to just be a smaller .357 and it mostly succeeded, it just has a very low adoption rate. Supplanting it with 32SW longs is not a cheap option like dropping from 357 to 38specials. The ammo isn't going to flat-out die like GAP but it would take a lot to get it to grow. Not even 10mm can get mass recognition with manufacturers yet. It's about in the same spot as the .357SIG; good but nobody wants to risk putting guns out for it either because of cartridge loyalties or design flaws destroying their brand new pistols and ruining the company and round reputations.

if a cylinder could be made. you could shoot 7.62x25 through it with out a problem.

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>>33326887
Heavier bullets, different shaped bullets, hard cast bullets, rim rebated to that of 5.7FN or 4.6HK for interchangeability, de-tapperring, use in double barrelled hanguns thanks to fittingly small round.

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the kimber carry revolver has 6 shots of 357..

but for that same cylinder width you could carry 7 327s..

>>33328214
Change it into an auto, and you more than double how many rounds you can unload, with a longer barrel.

Make the .327 rimless, and put it in that.

Then enlarge that revolver a bit so that it can use 8 of the auto rounds with half moon clips.

I have a Ruger single – seven in .327. I love it.
It has significantly less flash and recall compared to the .357, has great ballistics, and very similar energy.
I'm probably going to get a new Henry lever action in the same caliber of this month. If I could find an AR upper chamber for it, I would get it.

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>>33328180
>heavier bullets
You'd run out of room. 327 can fit a 115 grain bullet, which is the bottom end of bullet weight while still retaining performance close to or equal to 9mm.
>different shaped/hard cast bullets
I'm pretty sure if there were a breakthrough in bullet shape beyond lead and copper hollow points an ammo manufacturer would've found it by now.
>double barreled handguns
Kek, unfortunately too expensive and thicc to be practical. Do want though.

>>33328391
>with a longer barrel
Barrel lengths in revolvers don't count the cylinder, but it essentially adds another .5-1 inch barrels worth of speed.

>>33316405
Once somebody cooks up a short .32 rimless magnum the world will be a better place. Call it something like .32 mini magnum for the cool factor.

>>33330483
why not >>33317172
>>33328391

>>33327219
357 mag is only a dollah more than .38 special

But 327 is even more expensive than the already expensive .38/357.