B or BD?

>>33312698
Bersonaly I'd go with the decocker, that 3 or 4 extra pounds can prevent a mishaps and doesn't need to be switched every time you need to fire. If you're a noob to guns or feel safer with a safety go for it.

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>>33312698
Carry my $300 C-100 half-cock, safety off.

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>>33312698
>>33312698

This OP....

I've heard that the bd version has a different feel to the trigger. Not sure if it's true though.

>>33312736
The safety/decocker is directly attached to the sear on a CZ 75, so that's believable. I have a B with a manual safety, converted to SAO.

Obviously, I'm going to say B.

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>>33312736
Different as in better or worse? Lighter? Grittier? what?

>>33312743
They sell a single action only.
Why did you choose that? Cocked and locked that much better for you?

>>33312733
Lol this is awesome. I've heard the Pre-B models have some unsightly tooling marks, didn't know about the steel tho
What do you all think of the Police compact? pic related, it has decocker. Standard compact is a safety

>>33312725
Can't you carry the safety version DA with one in the chamber as well? You just have to let the hammer down carefully right?

>>33312767
How do you all feel about this PCR compact? regular compact is safety this one is decocker with aluminum frame

>>33312767
>They sell a single action only.
>Why did you choose that? Cocked and locked that much better for you?
it's an aftermarket trigger, but yes, there is a factory SAO option as well, titled the CZ-75 B SA. I have a standard 75 B which I modified with a competition hammer and SAO trigger from CZCustom, and did the sear/trigger/hammer fitment myself.

There were also variants of the Jericho that were Factory SAO models back in the 80's, from the Israeli plant. I have one of those as well.

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>>33312767
>>33312767

Hmm...I can't say about the original CZ because I'm using the either Glock 19 or CZ Phantom as my issued service sidearm. But, What can I say about the CZ Phantom is their are much softer recoil and ergonomically better than Glock .

>>33312698
manual safety if its an option. not cause id actually use the safety or want a safety. i manually decock the gun and carry it that way.
i want the safety version cause it isnt a royal pain in the ass to detail strip and reassemble.

started with glocks so i dont see the need for a safety. bought a bd fairly happy with it, got a spo1 later with a safety. trigger pull is almost identical with an edge to the decocker cause ive shot that gun more and its more broken in.

if all they had in stock were decockers i wouldnt mind settling for it but if i had the choice fuck the decocker.

75B.

Carry cocked and locked.

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>>33312733
>Rally would be around 45-46 years old today
>tfw you won't see her obviously outdated looking website with mismatched colors and text for gunsmithing service
>tfw you can't send your CZ to Rally's gunshop for smithing work
>tfw her shop isn't a /k/ destination stop for anyone visiting Chicago

>>33312729
I wish we could still get those

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>>33312733
>>33312767
>>33313809
If GSC was remade into the current year what would Rally carry?

My vote goes towards a sp01 shadow

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>>33312767
Both CZs in that picture are pre-Bs.

GSC was written before B pistols came out anyway.

There are two generations of pre-B pistols

Original first generation "Short Rails" and second generation "Full length rails".

The second generation CZ-75 pistol are the pre-Bs we know today.

The first generation pistols had shorter rails that the slide would ride on, these were machined from forged tool steel.

Only a few thousand were made, most ended up in Africa.

It was expensive to manufacture the originals, so to mass produce the pistols, a second generation was designed with a cast frame, and as such, the front region needed to be strengthened, so the rails were extended and metal added to the front.
Picture related,

The top is a first generation Short Rail and the bottom is a standard pre-b

There are less than 50 short rails in the U.S, and as such, when they pop up, they sell for quite a lot.

>>33312698
Manuel safty i trust decockers less then safetys and i dont trust safteys.

>>33312698
Full size, B
Compact, BD
I have a PCR. The DA is quite heavy and very long, but the SA is nice and smooth. I always lean towards carrying one in the chamber, hammer down rather than cocked and locked.

>>33312698
As a new owner of a 75B, I only somewhat regret not having a decocker, I'm not used to setting the hammer down on a loaded chamber.

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>>33312698
Safety can have a better trigger if you ever get work done on it.

>>33312698
>manual safety

If you plan on using it like a 1911 ,shooting SAO which you will have to use the manual safety each time you come off target

>decocker

If you plan on using it DA/SA, shooting DA for your first shot and decocking each time you come off target


It's quite surprising reading this thread and many other CZ related threads, people don't know how to properly use one and do dumb shit like decock it when they intend to only shoot it SAO or say something like a manual safety is "safer" than a decocked gun with a 12lb trigger.

>>33314181
Isn't there a half-cock or hammer bounce-back? The hammer shouldn't rest on the firing pin if there's a round in the chamber. Hold hammer, pull trigger, move hammer forward a bit, release trigger, then it should be safe to lower the hammer the rest of the way.

>>33312698
I would take the decocker. Manual safeties are a meme, and the CZs heavy trigger pull is more than enough.

>>33314215
There is a half cock yes, I was just being autistical about it because the trigger has lots of take-up in half cock.

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Decocker is best, but the trigger on the 75B Omega is very nice.

>>33312698
Lefty so went with decocker

>>33314205
A manual safety is safer than a decocked gun with a 12lb trigger.
Just not by much.

Safe gun is an oxymoron

How has nobody mentioned the 85 Combat?

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>>33312698
Czech here,
It depends on your preferences. Personally, I prefer B,manual safety have a plenty of options, cock and lock, half cock, or just release down the hammer...

It is generally the "tradition says" that BD has a worse trigger run.

Regarding the quality/suavity
Ω > B > BD

As well as durability, commercial shooting ranges in Czech republic, are using in the vast majority the B version. The main user of BD is Police, only a small portion of people uses BD's as CC.

Go with a BD unless you are a n00b and need the safety to feel safe about carrying.

Honestly need for a safety when you have the half cocked option, the trigger pull is more than heavy enough to prevent an AD.

Ive owned a 75BD, and this is my advice.

CZ75 B SA

>>33312698
Decockers are a solution in search of a problem. Real men carry in condition 1. Condition 2 is for losers.

>>33318376
>re-re-re-real men!
>he furiously typed on his cheetos stained keyboard
>"ALBERT, TIME FA DINNA". His mothers screech thundered down the stairs into the basement
>"Not yet mum, I'm not done talking to my friends on the internet!", he replied in his raspy voice as he searched for another half consumed bag of cheetos.

If I'm only going to be mostly carrying it during the winter and fall, should I go with a PCR or P-01?

Does the lack of a rail really make much of a difference in carrying comfort, and does it add any noticeable difference in accuracy?

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Are poly CZs welcome?
I got the P07 recently and it's everything I've ever wanted in a do-it-all pistol. The aesthetics take time to learn how to like though.

>>33318654
how's the grip on the P07? One of the biggest selling points about CZs is the grip on them is damn-near perfect, but I feel like polymer might lack the same feel

>>33312729
Fuck off Cyrus

>>33318711
I like it. The gun points naturally since it's grip angle is more or less the same as all other 75 variants. The grip is aggressive enough to not slip in your hand but not so much that it hurts to hold. It also comes with changeable backstraps to better fit different sized hands. I wouldn't say it's better than a metal frame CZ, but it's close. Certainly kicks the shit out of glock and other poly frame guns in terms of comfort though.

>>33318414
Not an argument.

Condition 2 was born out of a misguided desire for safety.

>>33312698
If you're trained and your guns are all uniformly using a frame mounted safety, then get the safety. If half your guns have no safety then be consistent and get the decocker.

>>33314271
I will second this anon on the omega trigger. I had a new CZ 75B and hated it because the trigger was terrible. In hindsight, if I had not been such a "purist" fag I would have bough the Omega instead of the B, and I'd probably still own the pistol.