HK thread

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>>33311480
>MK23 with a 16 round magazine

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>>33311480
Seriously, does anyone here own a USP45 and USP45c?

How do HK rifles compare to their handguns? Are they just as good because their handguns are pretty much top tier.

>>33311867
Depends on the rifle, HK guns are very use specific. Some are mass produced sheet steel like the AK, some are precision tools. Pretty much everything they make is above the standard in its intended role though.

Just shot a usp45 in full size and compact.
Is the drop in match trigger better and more defined?
It felt like I was squeezing dead air until the gun went off.

>>33311906
How does their MR556A1 compare to other ARs? Is it overpriced because of "muh HK" or is that money going into a quality rifle?

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>>33311916
Do you know the owner personally? I really need to know if the magazine floorplates are interchangeable (even if it took a little dremel work)

I have a USP45 and the heavy trigger spring and match hammer/sear springs make it a decent trigger, were you shooting a LEM gun?

>>33311943
I don't have personal experience with it but it seems like a fantastic rifle, that you will never use to its full potential on a range. For a range/competition gun you're likely better off tuning an AR build to what you really want.

If you were going to kick doors and hump rice paddies I'd look a lit harder at the HK

>>33311480
>>33311749
The USP full size and compact mags and mag parts are not compatible with each other.

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>>33312079
Not even with some modification? I just want a motherfucking +2 base plate for my god damn USP45 and it's like a fucking conspiracy between every manufacturer on the planet.

>HKParts makes USP45 mag extension
>It's a fucking 24 round massive pile if shit because their heads are so far up their ass they think someone would buy that over a POS promag 20 rounder

>Everyone else only makes them for the USP45c and HK45, vastly inferior guns durability wise

I just want 14+1 of .45 super, is that so much to fucking ask?

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>>33312117
People modify M&P45 extensions to work but the Arredondo baseplates are loose junk that are just begging to break free.

>>33311480
whats the light

>>33312142
That looks really good, why is this not a thing?

>>33312148
Discontinued light made for the totally retarded HK rails

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>>33311480
These threads always die as soon as I post anyway... So please, have a poorly lit pic of my USP and HK tanto

What's a better way to spend ~$1k?
P30L LEM trigger
USP45 Tactical
Save up for a Zenith MP5 clone or SP5k

>>33312355
>for the totally retarded HK rails

HK were the first to make pistol rails.

>>33312422
USP9?

>That mallninja blade
If you don't own an HK polo shirt you have stopped in that akward middle ground between faggot and full blown fanatic.

>>33312480
USP45T but you have to get a suppressor and UTL

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>just getting into PX4's
>finally feeling the HK bug after reading more and more into LEM and the P30
>they announced new VP9 variants that include a button mag release instead of a paddle

I promised myself I wouldn't buy more and more guns this year but if they ever do make a button mag release P30, I may have to pick one up.

>>33312483
Yeah, but they seriously should have just come out with a USPv2 with reasonable magazine capacity and a 1913 rail. Not the HK45, but an actual USP45 with 14+1 and a rail

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>>33312650
>Yeah, but they seriously should have just come out with a USPv2 with reasonable magazine capacity and a 1913 rail. Not the HK45, but an actual USP45 with 14+1 and a rail

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>>33312422

Just for you so the thread lives a little longer.

>>33312484
>benchmade makes/made HK knives
>benchmade discontinued HK knives
>I like HK and Benchmade so I bought a knife to go with my gun
Wow, I'm such a mall ninja DURRR.
That's like calling someone a fag for wearing a Jeep hat because he owns a Jeep.

>>33312821
And thank you friendo, for keeping it alive with a more expensive version of what I tried to portray haha
>otf knives are illegal in my state
>sadness

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My baby, I want a flashlight for it but not sure what to get.

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Thread needs some striker Nazi.

>>33311949
no, it was DA/SA
I guess to make it more clear, it just felt like there wasn't any noticeable "point" where I could tell it was going to go off. I guess if I shot a lot more with them, I'd get used to it and can get a feel. But it really bothered me.

and sorry, I didn't ask if the mags were interchangeable, but I think I remember reading on HK forum that the full size and compact guns can't take each other's mags. USP-- and HK-- lines can interchange iirc.

Didn't HKparts just come out with their own mag extensions? Ones that don't look like an ugly elephant foot for the compacts?

>>33313050
>Didn't HKparts just come out with their own mag extensions? Ones that don't look like an ugly elephant foot for the compacts?
They decided the world needs 24 round foot long magazines instead of +3 carry baseplates. Fuck them.

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>>33313253
well the +2 mag plates look infinitely better than the official HK ones for the compact.

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>>33311480
>Decided I don't like the soft ass reset in my USP45
>Install heavy trigger return spring
>Trigger used to be 4.5lbs
>Now NINE FUCKING POUNDS
>IN SINGLE ACTION

>>33313265
But why can't they do that for the USP45 full size?! Why the FUCK

>>33313269
Dunno, the full size 45 mags are 10rd and 12 rd, right?
I guess compact's 8 rd triggers us human's autism for 10's and the +2 was bigger priority.

>>33312480
Usp45t

>>33312985
Gg&g + x300 ultra.
Not sure how it'll look on the compact. I have it on my standard and it's pretty big

>>33312985

>ak magwell
>nanny state maglock

Well then.

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>>33313292
Second.

>>33312117
What part of "not compatible" don't you understand? Goddamn.

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Anyone do the LEM conversion? For someone who doesn't enjoy detail stripping frames, but can do it (with directions) how much fun am I in for?

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hi

>>33312650
>14+1
this is a mistake. I hate the stupidly long and fat magwell on a fnx45.

12+1 .45 is enough for me, if it wasn't I'd get a 9mm

>>33313874
>Hands too small?

>>33313844
The part where a fucking M&P45 base plate will fit with some dremel work, what part of "Some modification" do YOU not understand you credit card commando fuck stick? Some of us can do work on our guns without requiring drop in components.

>>33313857
>10 round magazines
>Not carrying .45 Super
What's so great about it?

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>>33313946
>10 round magazine
canada.
>.45 Super
never even seen that sold here, but I bet it would be like $5/round unless I got into loading them myself. those hornadys cost me $1.55/round.
>What's so great about it?
everything, but the DA pull could be a bit lighter. SA is good. no interest in lem meme. maybe match w/o stop.

>>33314031
>Canada
I am so sorry, Alaska bro here. I have a USP45 with KF date code and I carry 255gr hard cast .45 Super for bear/moose over here. You should look into it, the brass isn't terribly expensive and it's comparable to .45 Colt hard cast field loads.

>Pistol Forum thread on the USP45 as a woods gun
https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?16503-HK-USP-45-field-pistol/page25

>The .45 Super I carry innawoods
https://underwoodammo.com/shop/45-super-255-grain-hard-cast-flat-nose/

>>33314031
>no interest in lem meme

It's because you're Canadian and you aren't legally allowed to shoot people so LEM doesn't make much sense to you anyways.

>>33314223
probably right.

>>33314223
Seriously, just sour grapes, LEM trigger is best carry trigger.

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>>33312821

The HK otf knives are sex.

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My former Maine State Police USP .45, made in 1999. Has never had a malfunction.

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Fuck yes!

>Just got an Insight UTL in the original case for $190

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>>33311480

Budget Kraut

how is the p2000 vs the usp and vp9?

>>33315906
Enjoy your light with half the performance of a soon to be replaced model of a low end pistol light.

>>33315961
Thanks, I'm excited. Getting the LED upgrade as soon as it ships

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VP9 showing how great it fits a small hand

>>33315978
Dawg stop being an 05 hipster and just get an Inforce APL or X300 or something

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>>33316023
You can't make me.
The UTL looks better on the USP, same reason I'd get the xc1 if I carried a Glock
Also, all holsters are designed around the UTL.


>Also, bitch you don't know hipster

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>>33316023
>just get something not for the gun
>Something that doesn't follow the lines at all

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>>33316171
dawg tell me that doesn't fit it while being more practical

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>>33316307
No, no, you've got it all wrong.
See how the light continues the slide and sweeps back just enough to fill the gap in front of the trigger guard and under the frame? It's not a light and a pistol, it's one weapons system.

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>>33311480
Why is the USP so perfect?

>>33313856

USPs are stupid easy to work on. Most of the trigger components are held in place with a single cross pin. The trigger return spring is a bit of a bitch without very skinny needle nose pliers or making yourself a tool. Doing the LEM conversion most people have a little trouble getting the LEM two piece hammer and spring in place. Everything else is easy.

>>33315949
>USP
>...
>...
>P2000
>...
>...
>VP9

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I recently got a USP and I'm so bummed. Took it shooting and it had an ftf or fte about every other shot. Near the end it was running smooth but ftf'd on the last round every time.
Is it a spring? The undying break in period meme? Please tell me its something easily fixed.

I was so happy to finally get one for it to be shit. Just like everything else in my life

>>33317250
And no I wasn't Fucking limp wristing

>>33317250
Is it new? What caliber and what ammo?

>>33317313
This and also I assume you cleaned and lubricated it? If it's FTF'ing on multiple rounds it could be the magazine springs. Is it a brand new USP or used?

>>33317313
>>33317328
New and 9mm

>>33317337
So couple of things, it looks like your ammo is running hot enough to actually eject (case is being extracted and thrown up). It's possible that you need to break in the recoil spring (run a box or two of some hotter 9mm). I'm guessing you're running 115gr?

>>33317265
Using reloads?

>>33317328
And yes I cleaned and lubed it as soon as I got home with it

>>33317356
Did you lock the slide back and leave it overnight? What trigger spring weight does it have?

>>33317354
This is a pretty solid idea. I'd get some Fiocchi or some +P 9mm ammo that runs hotter and heavy, like some 124grs to get the recoil springs broken in. If it doens't work after that, you may need to send it in to HK for warranty work. :( It sucks amigo, but at least they should cover all of the costs for you. Might be something as simple as a bad extractor or mags.

>>33317354
Yeah me and a buddy were talking about that. I spent a fair amount of time racking it and kept the slide locked over night. And I planned on getting some +p to get the recoil spring broken in, assuming that's the problem.

>>33317355
Nope just your run of the mill Fudderal brass

>>33317390
If it makes you feel any better when I bought my MP5 I had read that you need to break it in, but didn't really buy it. After 115gr barely running 2 rounds in a row without a failure I switch to 147gr and broke that bitch in for a few hundred rounds. She eats 115 no problem now. My guess is typical HK overdesign where they wanted the gun to handle anything, but that means fresh parts out of the box are too stiff for the lighter side of things and need to get worn in.

>>33317415
>>33317380
>>33317373
>>33317355
>>33317354
>>33317328
>>33317313
I really appreciate the help guys, hopefully next time I go out with that +p stuff it'll start working right.

>>33317390

USPs don't really have a "break in". Leaving the slide locked open won't do anything either. They are however built for 124gr NATO 9mm. Find some 124gr from a Euro brand (S&B, Fiocchi, GECO). Shoot that for a while and it might start extracting light US 115gr, it's always gonna be a little weak for extraction though. To be clear, I've never had a USP variant that couldn't shoot cheap stuff new.

The other possibility is you've got preservative new gun gunk collected somewhere it shouldn't be. Or you may have gunk or a burr in your chamber effecting extraction.

The least likely option, there is something wrong with your USP.

But yeah...I know you said you aren't...but that looks a lot like limp wristing. Combined with Federal 115gr fart ammo, limp wristing becomes much easier to do.

>>33317483
Good luck, racking the fuck out of it and leaving it locked back is probably enough. My HK heavy trigger return spring was so stiff from the factory it was causing my slide to hang up trying to push the hammer down. Left her cocked and locked in SA overnight and dry fired a hundred or so times and the problem is gone.

>>33317533
>Leaving the slide locked open won't do anything either.
I really don't want to be the Fudd, and I know it's not compression but cycles of compression and expansion that wears springs, but every gun that had new mag/internal/recoil springs that were too stiff was solved by just compressing them and walking away for a couple of days. They do seem to take a 'set' and stop at that point, doesn't seem to be a difference between 24 hours and 24 days though, just staying compressed for about a day and they never get weaker than that.

>>33317590

I've never had an issue where I needed to consider doing it. Mechanically I know it shouldn't do anything...but it also won't really hurt either. I'm not gonna rag on anyone much for trying it.

I've heard similar stuff before with magazine springs, leaving them loaded for a while to ease reloading at the range. In both cases I kinda suspect cycling the spring through its full range of motion is getting rid of imperfections in your mag tube/follower or guide rod. I don't know though.

>>33317664
I had some factory P228 10 round mags that I could bearly get 9 into, used them a couple of times, never seemed to get easier. I loaded them up and got dispatched to a wild fire for two weeks, came back and they were much easier to load, could even put all ten rounds in.

>Que bill O'Reilly you can't explain that.

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Just picked her up and brought her home today.

Can I can play in these threads now?

>>33318311
Even better, you can carry 124gr +p+ and get jet funnel mags for 18+1 of basically .357sig

You need a light for it now.

>>33313267
Okay, did a lot of dry fire and left her cocked and locked overnight, trigger is now a smooth 7.5lbs in SA

>>33311943
It's one of the best piston driven systems for the AR. LMT and LWRC also make fine piston rifles. I got my hands on a 416 while on vacation in Vegas and it felt amazing. Very controllable, sleek, not as heavy as I thought it would be, and everything feels like an upgrade

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>>33311480
Did someone say HK?

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>>33318566
What flavor would the MK23 be?

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>>33318584
*smacks lips*

>>33318585
Shit, I might need to add it. Kettle Cooked BBQ, maybe?

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>>33318608
You tryin tell me

>>33318566
mmmmmmm, I do love me some lightly salted chips

>>33318585
Hey, what's your opinion on >>33311632 ?

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>>33318621
*locks roller*

>>33318610
Bueno, all that extra heft needs dat crunch.

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>>33318645
roller delayed blowback firearms?

>>33318644
Looks damn nice man, the extender fits with the overall large format of the MK23. Not sure how I feel about the compensator though, from far away it kind of looks like an extended barrel sticking out of the slide, but the extended mag fits very well with the extended grip. Nicely done!

>>33318672
*Mangles brass*

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>>33318676
I dont believe in the brasscaust

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all these usp's making me feel all inferior and shit

>>33318778
Well... you are?

>At least you can use normal lights and magazine extensions

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Who /hk family/ here?

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>>33318958
Not this guy...

I really want some HK rifles and a USP9E but I keep buying stupid shit.

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>>33318664
Improved. The grip got cut off to keep it flush with the other pictures, but that's the price of hugeness.

So, what's the consensus on HKParts.net? They seem kinda overpriced.

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>>33319252

Needs some kettle cooked jalapeno for the USP Expert.

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>>33319406

Also contributing to glorious roller gat collective.

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>>33319448

Ultra special snowflake roller gat as well.

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>>33319406
>>33319448
>that mp5
Arent you in CO?
>>33319402
>They seem kinda overpriced.
Welcome to HK

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>>33312480
USP45, Unless you're set on a 9mm. Love mine, loved it more after the trigger job.

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>>33319517

No but I think you may have asked me that before when I posted that gun in another thread.

A few of my pictures have been saved and reposted by other anons.

>>33319517
>Welcome to HK
The USP was specifically designed to be a >$600 firearm for police and civilians, almost all of the cost of HK guns is artificial inflation by dealers and jews that buy everything in bulk so you have to buy it from them at inflated prices.

>>33319587
Fuck, meant <$600

Either way, the guns were either meant to meet specific contract guidelines which caused the cost to necessarily go up, or they WERE cheap until fucking Fudd McGunbroker'sberg jewstein bought them all up.

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>>33319574
I probably did
I swear to god there is one guy from CO on here who has the exact same mp5 setup
>>33319587
Mil contract sized purchases get good deals
Dealers dont get good deals

>>33319252
Danke, nicely done.

>>33319631
The USP literally came on market at $550- $600
The VP9 is the same price as a Gen4 G17
HK are not inherently expensive guns, that's just what you've been told until you and everyone else made that the accepted market price.

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>>33319631

I think I've seen the guys posts you are talking about. He's got a bit more impressive collection than I do. I vaguely remember that dude having a Wilcox LAM for his Mark23 too.

>>33319689
They arent some expensive guns due to a conspiracy.

>The USP literally came on market at $550- $600
If you paid $550 in 93 you would be paying $927 in 2017. A brand new USP 45 is $800.
Small qty cost on a USP9c is $760 right now.
>The VP9 is the same price as a Gen4 G17
Yes
>HK are not inherently expensive guns, that's just what you've been told until you and everyone else made that the accepted market price.
Its an imported firearm made in a country with very expensive wages and regulations. Domestically produced clones always cost an arm and a leg because you had to buy parts kits and put them together with tooling that didnt exist. PTR is an example of how cheap HK weapons can be when produced domestically off tooling.

>>33319631
God, I just need to take a trip to vegas or something to shoot an MP5 and get it out of my system. The Pistol MP5K clones just don't do it for me. Stupid california bullcrap razzin frazzin....

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>>33319541
Also, who's dick do I have to suck to get a USP tactical chambered in 10mm.

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>>33319631
Fellow POF bud

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>>33312497
>>33313292
>>33313773
>>33319541
Well that was pretty one-sided. Looks like it's time to start saving up.

>>33319801

Buy a Tactical in .40, have the chamber reamed to 10mm, install heavier recoil spring, have ejection opening milled to clear the longer round, buy STI mags and cut appropriate notches.

Ta da, 10mm tactical.

>>33318958
my son and i sitting around bullshitting while i fingerfucked his vp9 and and made the point that we should visit oberndorf am neckar after visiting pleasant view tennessee.
he was unaware that was headquarters of heckler & koch as well as the home of mauser back in the day.

>>33319855
Damn right you do.

>By the way, it's about the same dimensions as a G17

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>>33319873
Wouldn't reaming the chamber fuck with the amount of material thats supposed to be around the chamber and cause a weak spot?

>>33320004
You have no idea how tough the USP is do you?

Also, you have to buy an aftermarket barrel, HK barrels can't be cut by reamers.

>>33319801
Google it, plenty of people have done it.

>>33311749
>HK sidearms factory Germany
>not even centered and straight on frame
>HK quality

HK fukkbois will defend this.

>>33320004

HK barrels are stupidly tough.

>>33320047

Oh they can be cut with a reamer. Just don't expect the chamber reamer to last long.

>>33319947
Yeah, I held one before and it was pretty neat.
I was looking at range fun or generally cool shit with those choices, nothing for carry. Maybe nightstand duty which the USP seems great for.

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>>33311480
>tfw I had a chance to buy one of those lights, still in the original packaging and never used for $45
I really regret it. I don't own a USP but I think I'd like to some day. It wasn't until later that I realized how expensive they usually are.

>>33320115
Life-sized potater said something like three gunsmiths send it back after they couldn't cut it.

>>33320094
That's obviously a standard USP with a knockoff comp

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>>33320158
You fool!

>TFW I feel pretty good about paying $190

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>>33320047
Appreciate man.

>>33320063
Right, I forget the internet exists sometimes.

>>33320047
>You have no idea how tough the USP is do you?

Actually I do. Slam a Glock and USP barrel against each other and see which gets a deeper nick. repeat same with the slides. Glock>piss>shit>HK. Glock steel eats through HK pot metal. also, enjoy not being able to eject unfired 10mm from your 40sw nigger rigged nigger conversion.

>>33319873
The better though more expensive way to do it, is to use a USP45 frame so you can use the 45 mags instead of fucking STI shits

>>33312505
>new VP9 variants that include a button mag release instead of a paddle
Walther is kill

33320319
So it'll eject fully loaded .40, but not empty 10mm. Your shit is weak bizarro-muslimbro

>>33320319

0/10 apply yourself.

You could have at least gone with something like "Glock barrel steel is the same and they already make a 10mm, checkmate Kochsuckers"

See? That'd get way more angry replies.

>>33320504
>Glock barrel steel is the same

But that would be a lie bc HK steel is actually inferior. And ofc then there is the surface treatment which is 1000 times more abrasion resistant and has 1000 times the lubricity in a Glock compared to a HK.

>>33320610

Ok you get a couple points back for technical bullshittery on the follow up. If you'd opened with that lubricity stuff instead of beating barrels together you'd have a far more convincing bait.

Next time I'd suggest a wild comparison to really draw in a diverse crowd of angry baited fanboys.

Go with something like "HK barrels are cold hammer forged for the same reason katanas were folded, to compensate for shit quality steel."

See? That would have HK fanboys AND weebs frothing and beating on their keyboards.

>>33311480

Why don't the sell lower receivers for the HK at 80% so we can build them like any other AR15.

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>>33313856
It's not difficult to do if you are mechanically inclined. I went back and forth about 10 times before deciding that LEM wasn't worth the mush.

v14lyfe

p.s. The people on hkpro are pretty god damn dum. They send guns to HK for LEM install and shit when it's literally one pin and six parts with no risk to warranty.

>>33321423
> The people on hkpro are pretty god damn dum.
They also think shooting .45 super in the USP full sized voids the warranty when the fucking manual says it's +p+ approved

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How'd I do, k?

We're never getting a G28 into the US and I'm going to be asshurt about it until the day I die.

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>>33321943
>HK45
>$600

>>33321943
Ya did good amigo. Looks in good shape and it has the case with a mag. Solid deal. How do the internals look? Barrel not too worn or anything?

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>>33321987
After thoroughly cleaning it to see how much wear there was it looks brand new

>>33317105
>>33321423

thx m80s, I was looking for some baseplate extenders as well, should I just batch it up (them and the LEM) and buy from HKparts and save on the shipping? Or is there an issue I'm not aware of...

Anything else to get while I'm at it? thinking a couple of mainspring recoil springs for my P30L LEMs while I'm at it....Any other "to do"s?

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Poorfag arts and crafts!

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>>33322512
I'll get a real HK case eventually

>>33313933
It's a USP, you nigger. Not an M&P. Fuck.

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>>33322526
Just figured I'd fill the space with something useful

>>33322225
>to see how much wear there was it looks brand new

literally

not

an

issue

http://pistol-training.com/archives/4027

>50,000 rounds
>1 stoppages
>1 (*) malfunctions
>1 parts breakages

>>33322531
Are you retarded?

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This was way easier than I expected, fuck the trigger spring though.

>>33322643
>This was way easier than I expected

Tearing a gun down is the easy part. Putting it back together is another story.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zNdw4DaUM8

>>33322643
You're a braver man than I man. When my sear spring cracked, I didn't dare fiddle around with the internals.

>>33323029
>>33323038
See >>33322526 she is back together and running great, I removed the firing pin, sear spring, and trigger spring. They got replaced by a titanium new version firing pin, nickel plated match sear spring, and a heavy trigger spring.

>>33315926
I really like this gun. Lot better price than hk also

>>33323100
Yeah, but can it run for years of non stop on +p ammo without any issues?

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>>33323335
>>33323336
Oh fuuuuck you. I love the UMP

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>>33323373
well so do I that's why I bought it

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dad gave me his compact, pretty good but now i want a usp 45. pain to carry though without a undershirt grip rubs your side raw

>>33323373
I got to shoot a full fun one with Orlando swat team when I was a kid. Shit was cash.

>>33323447
How much was it SBR and all? (Not the can or optic) I'm guessing $2600? It's a beautiful firearm, does it preform as well as it looks?

>>33323482
Fucking nice, did it start your gun interest?

>>33323506
I grew up around guns, but I think it definitely made me more interested in them.

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>>33323506
you can look at one for that amount. they are going for around $5500-$6000 atm converted. it's smooth and very accurate, not as smooth as the mp5 but I love it. the only bad thing is the stock irons are kind of low to the rail so you have to squish your face to the stock to see down them but that is fixed with an optic.

>>33323539
>$5500-$6000
Jesus CHRIST why?!

>>33321796
Best part that is how the would hk know

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>>33324487
>He doesn't know about the HK microchips

Seriously though, fucking retards

>>33324583
The shit?

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>>33324158
the USC starts at around $2500 due to them not being made anymore, then there is about $1500 in UMP parts. then there is the conversion cost which involves cutting the receiver in half and then plastic welding it back together with the UMP rear end. there is way too much shit that goes into making them. also there is only like 2 guys in the US that will do it with good reputaions so they can pretty much name their price.

>>33324158
You can get the Brugger and Thomet APC in .45 acp or 9mm. It's basically an improved clone of the UMP and they can be had for around $2500

>>33311632
My dick moved

>>33311480

I need your help /k/

HK45c vs. USP.45

Which one is better for a California home defense gun

>>33326638
The answer is always USP. It's there most iconic gun.

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I traded this HK45 for a Sig Saur P229 in 9mm last night.

I do not regret it the HK45 definitely was not all it was cracked up to be, though it is damn fucking accurate. I definitely got it for a good deal and was glad to trade it to someone who would appreciate it more.

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>>33311749

I do, both in .45. They are not interchangeable.

>>33324583
that's a passive RFID chip for inventory purposes

>>33322526
Nobody cares about the factory case. Good buy.

Should I put a Match trigger in my USP or go for LEM?

>>33327143
Depends on whether you prefer to shoot DA all the time or like a shorter/crisper SA pull on the Match. I ended up with the match due to me hating the creepy trigger both on the DA/SA pull, and the match trigger irons that out quite nicely. DA weight is reduced by several pounds and the SA pull is nice and crisp. Plus the Trigger comes with a reset screw to adjust travel as well.

I'd get the Match IMO.

>>33326638
>Which one is better for a California home defense gun

A shotgun

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Hey guys, can I play too?

>>33327143
Match.

LEM is mushy mediocre garbage, regular DA/SA is smooth but lots of creep like a P226.

>>33327143
Why not mix and match to our exact preference?

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>>33327895
Is that really yours?

>>33311480
>Read my USP45 manual
>See this
>Look for +p+ pressure on .45

>There is no +p+ specification for any round, it simply denotes being in excess of maximum SAAMI +p pressures

>HK put, in writing, that they are cool with you firing ammunition so hot it exceeds the max pressure for the category specifically made to exceed the max pressure of the parent case
>And it has no upper limit

I think my dick just twitched

>>33329876
There's a reason why an extensive thread on the USP45 shooting .45 super exists on pistolforum.

.45 super being something like +P+++ for .45.

>>33330124
Man I really want to try a box of 45 super in my mark23 and see how it compares I know it's perfectly capable of it, but I never got around to grabbing a box of it.

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>>33311480

>>33330124
>.45 super being something like +P+++ for .45.
It isn't nearly that hot

>>33330190
Go grab a box of underwood, I'm carrying 230gr gold dot loaded Underwood. 45 super in my USP right this second

>>33330222
Thanks for the heads up. I'll give it a whirl.

>>33330351
No problem man, give that recoil system something to do.

They also make hard cast .45 Super, that would be a 255gr hard cast lead flat nose going almost 1100fps out of your long ass MK23, good woods gun.

>>33330205
I absolutely love that furniture, good taste

>>33329876
Not mine because I can't be assed to take a picture, but yeah, I have a HK4 in .32 and .22.

>>33322526
my USP didn't come with a case that nice, WTF?

>>33333080
>serial number

Look me up senpai

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>>33326866

What did you not like about it?


Also my contribution is the usp40 I've carried for a few years now.

>>33332241
It's just an old Simmons range finder/binocular case from cabelas. I took out the pre cut foam and put in some that I had laying around

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>>33332241
Should have gotten the fancy one

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>>33311480
>>33311749
>>33312142
>not 9mm

>>33334098
What the fuck are you on about?

>>33334185
>>33334098
>Someone let a drunk autistic man use the Internet

>>33316099
>Also, all holsters are designed around the UTL.
literally name one

Not a lot of guys carrying the usp chambered in .40, curious why?

>>33334296
Want power? Get USP45 and carry Supers. Want capacity? Get the USP9 and carry 18+1

It's the exact same reason nobody uses .40 in any other gun, it's fucking retarded.

>>33334222
All the Blackhawk and Safariland holsters that accommodate a light.

How about this, name a single non-custom holster that accommodates a USP45 with another light.

>>33334348

I carry the usp40. Mostly because i wanted everything original. Even tore off that jetwell bullshit the guy tacked on.

>>33334384
I don't even have words for how retarded you are

>>33334506

Probably should add that both of my jetwell mags had problems after expanding in the summer heat. Not a fan of aftermarket crap

From my understanding the usp was originally designed around the .40. Didn't do much research and i don't mind the .40 so whatever. Only time i carry 9 is if im carrying subcompact.

>>33334564
>. Didn't do much research
Yeah, we can see that.

>>33334585

Right. Dropping down to 9 to plus up two rounds is retarded. If you can't handle 40 out of a usp then you probably have a medical condition.

>>33334638
>9 to plus up two rounds
>thinks there is a USP model with a 9+2 capacity
>+2

I don't have any words for how retarded you are. Are you even American?

>>33317250
>PW arms

is this one of the overrun USP compacts from classic firearms?

>>33334686

>usp40 13rd mag
>usp9 15rd mag

I hope that is a little easier for you. Let me know if you need a tutor i can hire one for you.

>>33334747
In no way does what you wrote here mean the same thing as what you wrote in >>33334638. English is hard, huh?

>>33317250
My USP9C jammed on the firsyt shot I ever took with it, but never after that.

>>33334751

Its ok man the words are not going anywhere. Just take all the time you need.

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>>33317250
my usp45 jammed up with shitty silver bear 230gr last time i took it out. i was kind of bummed about it because i kind of want all of my guns to be garbage eaters but it ran everything else i put through it just fine.

>>33334787

Looks nice and well worn i like it. Was it a consistent malfunction?

Am I retarded for wanting a USP Compact in .45 or are they still decent guns?

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>>33334808
thanks. and yep, it was pretty consistent across three different magazines.

>>33317250

That's not a ftf. Thats a fte, you may need to inspect and clean underneath the extractor assembly.

Could be something else but I'd check that unless you are running reloads.

>>33334816

What is that mounted on the rail? For a light or something?

>>33334842
yeah, it's a gg&g rail adapter for flashlights that aren't the insight m2. i put an x300 ultra on it for a little while, until i realized i couldnt really manipulate its switches easily. they are really far from the trigger guard, and i have really long fingers as is.

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>>33334787
Mine worked with everything, through mud and all.

Try putting a bit of CLP in the striker channel.

>>33334845

Ah ok it looks pretty clean. I haven't really found a light platform that interested me until you posted that so thank you.

>>33334856
no problem.

>>33334847
should i really be putting oil in there? i was always told not to because it might accumulate gunk and obscure the firing pin channel.

>>33334760
>this projecting
>early morning posting

Confirmed not American.

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>>33334751

Alright here is a family photo to give you a better example of my collection. My edc out of all of these is my usp40 bare bones with no aftermarket parts.

Id like to hear why you believe the usp40 is "retarded".

>>33334942

Forgot the list.

Vp9, usp45, hk45, usp40, usp45 tactical, and a (unfortunately semiautomatic) mp5.

>>33334918

You replying to a post 30min with the original post trying to confirm it as being foreign is pretty autistic.

>>33334863
It's to clean it dude. Just dryfire it after that.

I did that to mine like every 2000 rounds and it was just fine. One time it wouldn't fire in SA, but only in DA, put a bit of CLP, bang, bang, bang, bang, put a mag in it, shoot it and it voila, ready for the next time it will fuck up because, you know, there's always shit getting in there, like in everygun, so you should at least clean it sometimes.

>>33334787
Where was that picture taken?

>>33334993
ok, thanks for the tip.

>>33335008
sultan, washington state.

>>33335047
>washington state.
Okay, I thought maybe Oregon, very cool. West coast is best coast.

>>33334567
>>33334571
>>33334577
>>33334579
You have very interesting and attractive hands.

>>33335987
Not him but what the fuck man.

>>33334638

.40 is retarded as fuck. More snappy than a .45 but doesn't even hit as hard. Less recoil management, more time getting back onto sight, less capacity.

Only ppl who like .40, are the ppl who don't do any research. If you did do research, you'd see more ppl are killed with a 9mm over .40 by a shit ton. That's just with normal ball at like 115. Grain. Specially these days with all the +p loads they create, you truly have no reason to carry/use a .40.

I rather use .45 over .40 too, just due to how the recoil is, let's you see even better how the gun is going to take the road of least resistance. Which now allows you to see what changes to your grip, arms, and all that is needed to be adjusted in order to shoot even better.

All this has been said by Haley, Lovell, Costa, Miculek, even Yeager. All these ppl have been in one or multiple rolls of military, private, law enforcement, world class shooter (Miculek, is world, none of the others, he has shot over a billion rounds)

So when you got those ppl saying that, you look up coronor reports and see how many ppl have died from what caliber. It just makes your choice even that retarded.

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>>33339380

>points out a bunch of glock/1911 shooters.

The 40 is a whole different animal in the usp. Insinuating that I don't have experience when i literally just showed you my 45 tactical w/lem, hk45, vp9, ect. You are basically going off a bunch of crap you find online from people that edc glocks and shit plus have sponsors. Im telling you from actual experience that my 40 feels and shoots the best. Close runner up is the vp9 but im not a fan of the platform at all. Now talking about follow up shots here is a target i ran a reload drill from behind cover. First two shots are up top, reload then take the last shot which is the lowest one. 25yds. Looks fine to me even though you are trying to make it seem like my second shot will be in orbit because 40 is so wildly uncontrollable.

All this talk about how its fucking your wrist up leads me to believe all your experience with the 40 is out of a Derringer.