Is there any significant difference between CG/RPG? Is there really a point in using them on a modern battlefield?
>>33304784
>Is there any significant difference between CG/RPG?
Like difference between an AK-74 and a M16A4. Operationally different, more or less same purpose.
As for purpose, it's to blow up shit that you can't usually blow up effectively with a grenade launcher. Essentially more firepower.
Both launche large amounts of boom-boom in a rather straight line, of course they have a place on a modern battlefield.
Both have a variety (a fuckton) of ammo types to choose from, ranging from anti-infantry to bunker penetrating and anti-armor warheads.
CG has more ammo options.
Illum. Smoke. AntiStructural thermobaric.Flechette. Tandem HEAT. HEDP.
>>33305276
>CG has more ammo options.
Broski, RPG-7s have loads and loads of warhead variations. If you can fit it onto a warhead that screws into the propellant, you can shoot it out of an RPG-7 launcher.
>>33304784
>Is there really a point in using them on a modern battlefield?
There is this new thing called "cover" and explosives are really great for blowing holes through it.
Also vehicles are made more deader by explosives than by harsh words.
Carl can readily be programmed to air burst over cover, and it's assembly and ammo is constructed with the quality control synonymous with US equipment, unlike shitty Soviet gear that may not function or worse, explode killing the operator.
>>33304784
CG + air burst is literally the best man portable direct fire way to clear a rooftop.
Accept no substitute.
Carl Gustav is a recoilless rifle, RPG is a rocket. They're pretty different
>>33307346
>RPG is a rocket.
>>33307357
How is it not? Unless you mean to point out that RPG itself is just a launcher and the warhead it fires is a rocket. But given the context it's not the characteristic of the launcher that matters
>>33307357
>ROCKET propelled grenade
>>33307748
So, this is a rocket?
>>33307757
>Backronyms are real life now.
>>33307757
Handheld Anti-Tank Grenade Launcher
>>33307761
Yes? Idk what you think it's called. Alot of people call them grenades, which is also accurate because as >>33307781 mentioned it's in the name, but that doesn't mean they aren't rockets. Or at least, rocket powered. The motor is in the rear and I'd you want to get really specific then that's the rocket and the rest of it is the warhead or the grenade or whatever you wish to call it. I really don't get why this is causing people to sperg out
>>33307883
Please, for my benefit, circle where the rocket motor in that photo is.
>>33307905
you cant be serious ....
>>33307930
Please, indulge me.
>>33307939
it's the back of it, right next to the fins.
it contains a solid rocket booster
>>33307939
image
>>33307939
This is a really shitty troll dude.
>>33307946
Circle it.
>>33307952
Oh, but it's not. I want to know where the rocket motor on that round is.
>>33304784
>corporal, do you see that tank over there? yeah fuck that tank and everyone in it!
>>33307967
>>33307954
So is your argument specifically about the rpg-2 or rpg's in general?
>>33307992
Is an RPG-2 not an RPG?
>>33304784
What i would lke to know is which is more powerfull and
Does the rpg have the same kind of fource as a cg to the operator. I hear you can only use the cg 3 or 5 times a year or the operator geta internal bleeding is it the same for a rpg operator?
>>33307998
It is but if youre using it for your argument youre moving the goal posts because you picture doesnt have the motor in it.
>>33308016
There is no motor on PG2 rounds.
>>33308016
I just had a number of posts brazenly "explaining" to me that there was a motor in the photo and that I was an idiot. I just to know where the motor on an RPG-2 is, since apparently it has one.
'Member the original claim talked about "RPGs", nobody specified the type.
>>33307967
You cherry picked an inert training round. This doesn't help your case at all.
>>33307954
Holy shit man
>>33308052
Ok, senpai, pull up any picture you want of an RPG-2 and circle the rocket motor. I'll wait.
>>33308042
Don't know about RPG-2, but when most people refer to RPG they are talking about RPG-7. It's like how when people say AK-47, they are referring to the AKM. Next time be more specific, or two can play the semantics game.
The screw on part of the RPG-7 is the booster, which job is to get the rocket out of the tube to a safe distance from the operator. After like 40 yards, the rocket motor ignites and keeps it going. This is why you see and hear a second pop/puff down range when launching it.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=P439jWJTQ-0
>>33308066
There aren't any, because it's inert. It doesn't change anything. You didn't even open up with it, you just said NUH UH and when questioned, googled a training round and said SEEEEEEEEE
You're a fucking nigger of the worst kind and you derailed a thread for the stupidest fucking reason imaginable
>>33308066
fuck you not circling it
>>33308066
http://www.russianwarrior.com/STMMain.htm?1947weapon_RPG2.htm&1
>Method of Operation
>Single Stage, Unguided Black Powder Rocket
fucking commit suicide autist
>>33308168
Looks a lot like a standard projectile expelled with a single charge to me. It's as much a rocket as a recoilless rifle or a 40mm grenade.
>>33308168
Congrats on findind a source to match your level of knowledge on the subject.
The PG2 does not have a rocket boost. There is no rocket motor, it is propelled entierly by the screw on cartridge on the back. The OG-7V for the RPG-7 is the same way.
>>33308215
Nigger its a fucking rocket. I dont care what you think it looks like. If it propels it after it leaves the tube instead of just being a powder charge it meets the definition of a rocket.
Now fuck off nigger.
>>33308227
seems to be better than your source
>>33308215
>>33308227
This much autism. It is a rocket motor by definition. Just because it's crude and burns up all fuel in milliseconds, it doesn't mean it isn't.
>>33308298
It's not a motor though. No nozzle.
It is a launch charge, similar to the charges used by mortars. It's wrapped around a tail fin assembly and completly combusts to fire the round like a regular recoilless rifle.
>>33304784
Carl Gustav has higher muzzle velocity and is more accurate.
RPG-7 has both a lighter launcher and lighter ammo, so you can carry more of it.
>>33308010
I hear you can only use the cg 3 or 5 times a year or the operator geta internal bleeding
who told you that, if you shoot multiple a day you might get a bloody nose, but not internal bleeding.
>>33308381
Yeah man, I do believe the rule is 3 in 24 hours. A year's span tracking that is insane.
>>33308338
>a rocket motor has to have sutained thrust
Please kys before your mom finds out you're on the internet
>>33308401
At this point your arguments are so stupid I have to believe you're either 12, a retard, or a troll.
>>33304784
>Is there really a point in using them on a modern battlefield?
If you ever have had RPGs fired at you, or known someone killed by them, you would know they do just fine on the modern battlefield.
Please include my post in the cap of this classic autism thread.
>>33308438
Not an argument.
>>33308473
They still kill people and disable vehicles. They are still viable. Still a point to have them.
>>33308433
Your the one with the retarded semantic arguments
>Buh I was referring to RPG-2
>Buh a single charge is not a "rocket motor"
>you see "rockets" go fffffffftttttttt and launching charges go boom, if it doens't go fffffffffffffftttttttttttt it's not a rocket
>>33307954
It's labeled "Sustainer Motor"
>>33307998
>>33308066
OP is clearly talking about the RPG-7 you pedantic faggot, nobody uses the RPG-2 for shit. Fuck off
>>33308381
>>33308399
Is it the same for rpgs
>>33308010
it's more like concussion / brain injury
http://sahlgrenska.gu.se/english/research/news-events/news-article//blast-overpressure-is-generated-from-the-firing-of-weapons-and-may-cause-brain-injury--.cid863425
>>33308915
I haven't heard of it but it's possible. The RPG-7 has less backblast than the CG.
>>33308473
Yes it is, was enough for me. Let me try this another way.
>if it's still lethal and prevalent on the battlefield, it has purpose
>it is still lethal and prevalent on the battlefield
>therefore it has purpose