Melee Thread General

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I sure hope I'm not the only /k/ommando that brings his sword innawoods with him.

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Is this a good edc?

Who makes good-quality, functional battle axes? Arms & Armor?

>>33303386
Honestly? Pretty much any company that makes battle axes. I have heard that Arms and Armor is a pretty good company, can't speak on it personally though.

http://www.kultofathena.com/axes-br-price.asp

Take a peak through here. See what you like. And I swear I'm not a KoA shill. I just really like their prices and selection. Everything from entry to master quality and even decorative if that's all you want.

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>>33303316
>>33303351
>>33303375
Idk, a lot of Cold Steel's in this thread. They make good knives and Machetes, their swords have so much potential but just always seem to miss the mark in a big way.

Their Italian longsword looks great, I would gladly own one, if not for the fact that at lest half of them come with rattling guards, and/or rust spots.

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>>33303639
Just for a second pic of my prides a joys, of my currently, small and lower end sword collection.

I wish the guy from printed armory would make a witcher esque set with a wolfs head pommel and forward swept quillions for the tinker practical longsword. I'd pretty mjch have to buy one then.

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>>33303639
>Their Italian longsword looks great, I would gladly own one, if not for the fact that at lest half of them come with rattling guards, and/or rust spots.
Yeah they're swords definitely leave some to be desired. I do have a slight rattling to my guard and I just can't seem to get at the nut to tighten it. All in all though I'm pretty pleased with it. The only rust spots on it are from my own doing. Weight and balance is good for 2-handed grips, but being a long sword it should also have good balance for 1-handed grips. Which is definitely a bit tough to do with this guy. It holds an edge very well and 2-handed cuts and thrusts are a dream. And this thing is durable. I've abused it more than someone should abuse a sword and the only damage it has to show is the rattling crossguard, a bit of surface rust, and a damn near microscopic chip in the very tip of the blade that I was easily able to sharpen away.

I know people think cold steel is a meme but they've come a long way with their sword production over the years. I remember when their swords were regarded as BudK tier and now they've reached, in my opinion, acceptable entry/mid tier. Some of their weapons have better balance than others, and they still use threaded pommels but they've definitely upped their game.

>>33303671
I've been tempted to buy Windlass's Icingdeath and Twinkle sabers since they first came out. I know the feeling of wanting a functional fantasy sword. And now I'm obsessed with these Master Sword designs at Fable Blades. Unfortunately I don't have a spare $2-$4k to drop on a custom made, fully functional, artisan blade. That is, if their claims can be believed.

>>33303639
>>33303656
I dig your collection too. One question though, what is the purpose of gigantic folders like that? It's something I've never been able to put a reason to outside of the rule of cool.

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>>33303852
Yeah I would trust them to get there temper okay, Cold Steel normally does a good temper, they run a little soft on the swords and machetes, but I think that is fine for the strength it gains. And 1055 is a fine steel, my $650 Valiant Armory is 1060, and good luck telling the practical difference between the two.

Why I like the Italian Longsword is it actually does have a good balance and weight unlike a lot of their swords.

I agree they seem to be striving for better. I am tempted to try out their MAA Arming sword, the only negative reviews I see on it are about the edge being dull, but that does not bother me, I can sharpen it.

>>33303875
Cold Steel XL Espada, It's a total meme knife. I found it really cheap as they were switching from AUS8a to XHP steel, so I got it for like $90. It's actually very well made, and I trust it is very strong, in fact if for what ever reason I had to pick a fighting knife, it would be that over even my fixed blades.

I'm thinking of buying a few other massive, not shit, knives just for the novelty of it. Like the Opinel No.13 and the Svord Giant Peasant

>>33303316
Want to get a 1060 or 1095 katana from ryansword.com - anyone ever buy from there?

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>>33304121
I would not trust them honestly, they seem like kind of a high end mall ninja company, like Shinwa.

I would highly recommend Ronin Katana, Cheness, and Hanwei, they are kind of the tried and true for entry level Katana's.

Right now Ronin is having a scratch dent sale, if you don't mind cosmetic flaws or some lose fittings (nothing functionally bad), you can get one of their 1045 DK line swords for $80 (Normally $80) and a 1060 Dojo Pro Line for $165 (normally $295).

I'm personally not a fan of the Cheaper Hanweis, except for the Raptor line. I bought a Raptor 7 years ago, and it's held up fine, well worth the $300. (pic related)

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>>33304271
>their 1045 DK line swords for $80 (Normally $80)

I meant normally $130

Pic related is a Ronin Dojo Pro 18... not mine, I was thinking of buying one from the scratch dent sale, but gf has convinced me not to.

>>33303351
YEAH DUMMY I THINK YOU ARE

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The only actual sword i own that i'd be proud enough to admit owning is an 1860 Cav saber repro i bought when i first got into HEMA. Reading about Alfred Hutton and glossing over his manual really got me interested in english saber. I wish i had a manual for french saber so i could learn some of the likely basis for saber drills in the Confederate States.

Are buttcaps on spears a good idea?

http://www.kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=600036&name=Greek+Spear+Buttcap

>>33305933
Why not? unless you plan on storing your spear vertical and on nice hardwood floors.

I seriously doubt you'll ever be in a formation where you could end up stabbing your buttbuddy.

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>>33306069
>I seriously doubt you'll ever be in a formation where you could end up stabbing your buttbuddy.

>You'll never be in a shield-wall or phalanx formation.

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>>33305179
My man ! I recently buy a beautiful antique french saber model 1822 heavy cavalry. I'm also into HEMA and work on saber since 2015.

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not my best, but my oldest and favorite sword

>>33306637

Anon let's have a talk about those bedsheets

>>33306643
i try to balance the darkness with some lightness

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>>33306663
Don't we all?

>>33306677
yup

>>33306689
M'lord

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keep these near my bed

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>>33306786
and these under my pillow

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>>33306637
I'm curious about the /k consensus. Are swordchetes (machetes shaped like swords) actual swords?

I don't think they are, but I don't know were the line is drawn. I would consider all of the Cold Steel sword like machetes to be swordchetes and not real swords.

I don't know where to place something like the Condor Naval cutlass, it's more sword than the CS Swordchetes.

Obviously a messer is a sword, even though it's built like a machete.

And what about the Schrade Brush sword vs Hanwei Banshee, I think the Banshee is a sword, but the Schrade even though it feels like a short sword and not a machete, it's a swordknife?

idk... Maybe a sword is something you just know when you hold.

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So /k/, in the general duty of head taking and bone snapping, which is the best; sword, ax or mace?
>pic related, my homemade ax

>>33306816
cant claim to speak for all of /k/ but personally i would count most swordchetes as swords. something like >>33306637 dosent really do the job of a machete so well anymore, but does fill the role of a sword better then a typical Latin machete (stabling flesh)

>>33306689
>*AD MORTEM intensifies*

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so, anyone ever bought anything from ZombieTools? as tryhard and cringe-inducing as I find their whole presentation, I DO like some of their designs (the cavalry saber in particular)

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>>33306816
>Obviously a messer is a sword, even though it's built like a machete.
Technically speaking. No. Messers aren't swords, but they function very much like one.
The only difference is how you construct one and what parts does it have. There are some that are on the grey area between messers and swords but nevertheless it's a different category.

Also about my own stuff, I have a messer and a cut-and-thrust sword (or more like a proto rapier) both blunt versions for practice.
If everything goes right I will get a new messer in the near future and may and may not a sharp halberd too.

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>>33306941
>>33306717
with my full outfit and training sword

>>33306885
Sword is probably superior weapon overall. Mace is best against armored/helmeted opponents. Axe is great overall, tool and weapon.

Though today, in the year 2017, the only one worth having is an axe. There's no real use for the other two, the axe can do the cutting and smashing.

I like the look of your axe, though personally I'd want a little more depth on the head for deeper cuts.

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>>33307048
made it out of upholstery samples

>>33307051
Ya, Im going to get a bigger ax head soon, problem is being an ausfag theres like only 2 places that are local + shits expensive

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>>33306980
I've not really heard anything bad about them, they are very well made. As over played as Zombies are, I think they do the apocalyptic look very well.

I'm strongly considering the d'Capitan as my next sword. And I also like their Reaper model.

>>33307392
fucking hell, i think i need that

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>>33303316
Péter Regenyei and Pavel Moc make good and cheapish swords.

I wouldn't trust CS, Windlass, or Deepeeka swords.

>>33307488
There's nothing wrong with them, if you use them for their intended purposes (no heavy cutting, no sparring) and just have a decent representation of a type of sword. They aren't perfect but due to their low cost they allow you to have a wide array of examples of swords from a particular area before you spring for that expensive Albion or

Like picking up windlass' Munich, thinking it's a neat idea and later on replacing it with arms and armor's town guard

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Im thinking of getting this cutlass and removing the black shit and polishing it up myself. anyone have any thoughts?

>>33307752
>removing the black shit

In my opinion. the only thing Cold Steel has worth buying are their axes.

I bought one of them, removed that mall ninja trash coating and i've never needed another axe again.

>>33307789
I have plenty of cold steel and they have yet to disappoint me, I generally buy them knowing a little work will be required thought

>>33307730
I wouldn't get an Albion anyway, I find them good but way overpriced.

I have a custom sharp from Regenyei Armoury that should be ready in August, complete with scabbard with belt.

>>33307789

Cold steel can make some decent shit. It's when you start getting into battle swords, all this other shit. That's when it starts becoming autistic. Or when ppl like CSF, who acted like CS was a gift from the heaven's.

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>>33307488
>>33307730
You can get a decent sword for less. Hanwei, Ronin Katana, Valiant Armory, they all make a few pretty good swords for under $600.

Windlass can be hit or miss, Deepeeka is worth skipping for sure. Cold Steel seems to be trying to improve their swords, I would still hold off for the mean while, or at lest know what you are getting into.

>>33307752
I've looked at their Naval Cutlass before, I actually think the coating looks nice. My normal rule of thumb though is to avoid Cold Steel Swords, they are notorious from having rattly guards, and it would be very noticeable on the Cutlass. Consider the Condor Naval Cutlass, although it's pretty light, more of a swordchete. And of course the Cold Steel Cutlass Machete, I have one, it's firmly a swordchete, may need a bit of sharpening from box, and it's pretty tip heavy, but mine has held up very well.

>>33307789
I have plenty of knives from Cold Steel that are great, they stand up very well when compared with other knives in the same price range. This holds true for most of their knives, at lest at the street value (not their MSRP value). And most of their Machetes are pretty good as well if you are give them a little work from box, I own quite a few and they have stood up to years of brush clearing.

I actually hear bad things about their Axes, but really no one makes a really good axe (okay at best) for less than $50ish. I've not personally tried their axes though, I may try out the Trail Boss but I don't think it will hold up to the Gransfors Bruks and reprofiled Snow&Nealleys (my personal /out axe) I'm used to.

>>33307945
>old Steel seems to be trying to improve their swords,
Cold Steel swords are made in the same factory as Windlass's

>>33307984
You can even find Cold Steel blades with "WIndlass" marked on them

>>33307945
>You can get a decent sword for less. Hanwei, Ronin Katana, Valiant Armory, they all make a few pretty good swords for under $600.

you can get a decent sword under 300 usd from Landsknecht Emporium by the power of it's from eastern europe where people work piss cheap.
Then again, others realized this too so the waiting list gets longer and longer (although as far as I know they got contacted by one reseller in the US so that might change a few things)

Anyone ever bought a ninjato? I'm mostly into them for tasteless historically illiterate weeb reasons but I'm interested if they're worth owning for any pragmatic reason. Looking at Hanwei options right now.

>>33307945
imo I find smiths that also practice HEMA produce the best swords in terms of sword balance and edge retention.

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>>33308023
It's not a Ninjato, but I have a Chinese Tang Dao. It's the precursor to the katana and weebs think it's a katana all the time. Here's a pic of it.

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>>33308159
It just makes sense that knowing how to use a sword practically will let you make a better sword.

The good Cold Steel swords are the ones designed by a bladesmith that practices HEMA, like the Polish saber they make.

>>33308212
Yeah, it looks pretty similar. The straight oriental sword was more or less what I'm going for, I was looking at Hanwei ninjato since they seem pretty affordable and hanwei is well received.

>>33308232
That particular one is from Iron Tiger forge. It's pretty solidly built.

>>33307945
>No one really makes good axes

You just need to look around more. I got my tomahawk for the equivalent of $25 usd

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>>33307984
>>33307999
They are made by a few people, a lot by Windlass yes, but also Dynasty Forge.

>>33308001
Also Lutel. I forgot to mention them. My next sword maybe from Lutel or Zombie Tools, still deciding. If I go for a Lutel it will be pic related.

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>>33308380
>>33308380
I said no one makes really good axes for under $50ish. There is Council Tools and Husqvarna (pushing that $50) they are pretty good, but tend to need work out of box. I think that's the trend, you can get good axes for sub $50, but they need a lot of work. The only axes that are good to go from box tend to be well over $100, Swedish brands like Grandsfors and Wetterlings, and custom axes like John Neemen.

And ps, John Neemen "Northernmen" axes are the actual physical embodiment of sex in the shape of an Axe. I would be very tempted to put down the $550 on one of these, if it weren't for the fact that they are not even taking orders right now.

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Will most war axes you buy now be able to go through modern body armor/stab proof vest
Asking for a friend

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What are the advantages of a chopping sword over that of a slicing sword?

>>33310115
The advantage is whatever you train in you'll be better with.

>>33310115
Its like machette vs knife arguements
Its up to personal preference, though stabs still kill easier, just take a lot more effort

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Are there any other smiths or manufacturers out there that make 1796 LCS or is Cold Steel the only option?

>>33310115
A chopping sword like a falchion is going to have more weight towards the tip, but a well-made one should still be balanced. Good-quality falchions and swords of this type are going to be pretty expensive though. Slicing swords like sabers tend to have a further point of balance as well, but the blade is generally thinner than something like a falchion or machete.

>>33312781
Universal does one but it's pretty bad

Check with some eastern european smiths I'm sure they could do something like it

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>>33303316
I came

>>33303316
the middle sword with brown leather has like a really tiny handle

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>>33312781
I'd look around for an original. A decent amount of those still around, especially if we count the Blüchers and other knock-offs as well, as they are most likely far closer than the CS one.

>>33303316
How do you like that victorian sword cane? Any insights about it? I'm torn between that one and the heavy duty cold steel one from athena.

>>33313352
A little short for my height cane-wise but it's fun to stab stuff with it.

>>33306689
For the love of god get yourself a plenishing hammer

>>33307051

Swords can be more easily worn as a back-up, though.

>>33307945
>Condor Naval Cutlass
not bad, but i dont really like the guard. deffiently something i'll be considering though

>>33314156
Indeed, but you can carry an axe just as well with the advantage of all the other uses the axe has for survival.

>>33307051
A battle axe wouldn't make a good tool