Future Weapons

Telescoping ammo, airburst grenades and smart optics. Pretty much everything else is a meme, particularly infantry railguns and caseless.

>>33302287
I disagree only on the first point. Telescoped ammo is less efficient, but polymer cases will become a thing.

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>>33303785
>Telescoped ammo is less efficient, but polymer cases will become a thing.

How so? How is it less efficient?

I think we'll get both before wide caseless. As far as I knew, they were really being developed together. Polymer-cased telescoped. That's what the LSAT is, I thought.

>>33302287
>Caseless is a meme


The G11 wasn't dropped because it didn't work, it was dropped because the Whermact or however the Krauts spell it decided reunification was priority. They had all the kinks worked out by the time it was dropped.

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>>33304308
While it wasn't 100% worked out, it was damn close, or maybe it was. Depends who you listen to.

The point is, anyone who says even that much knows that yeah, it was reunification. If the Cold War had continued, and with it the strong military spending, it absolutely would have come to fruition.

We haven't needed it yet compared to general modernization and upgrade, but the tech is there. It's on the backburner while we figure out ways to adapt the more conventional stuff. Know that whole thing about "AR-15's in space" because replacing it isn't worth the cost compared to the advantage? Yeah. Like that. Except the advantage isn't the problem, it's just not fully needed yet compared to the cost in a time of "peace."

Lord knows they get enough flak as it is on defense spending. Even if it wouldn't be huge in the scheme of things, they'll go incremental, because a full rifle switch would be very visible and very criticized these days.

I think the next step up is a Plasma round.

Is it possible to contain plasma in a .308 sized bullet? Would you be able to heat up said plasma enough to make the damage worthwhile?

I'm thinking something that will burn clean through walls and armor.

>>33304455
Short answer: no, and if it were that kind of penetrator would be used in other technologies long before small arms.

>>33304303
>How so? How is it less efficient?
The fundamental problem that's always accompanying the driving of a bullet through a barrel is called obturation, i.e. the more or less gas-tight sealing from all possible escape points. Conceptually there are 4 points for which obturation needs to be considered: the firing pin (done by how primers are integrated into the case), the front and back end of the chamber (usually done by the case) and the barrel itself.

The last point is achieved by the bullet. But telescoped ammo wastes some of the energy of the propellant because it doesn't achieve obturation immediately. As a result some part of the gases overtake the bullet before it can sit fully in the barrel and engage the rifling. This is why telescoped ammo usually has a plug on top to reduce the effect somewhat. But it's still less efficient than non-telescoped ammo.

>As far as I knew, they were really being developed together. Polymer-cased telescoped. That's what the LSAT is, I thought.
Yes, but that's a consequence of different problems.

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posting all G11 i have

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delayed/constant recoil

here's a gun jesus vid on the concept
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOUKXIrDE0I

thanks g11 poster, nice pics. Where were those taken?