Henry 1860 an Assualt Rifle?

>>33291644
Considering the era, it fits in with the general concept I suppose.

>>33291644
>inb4 the Aussie antigunners take this video as an excuse to ban lever action rifles

ask Custer how assaulted did he felt

>>33291670
>karl gets shitposted on the internet once
>schemes a way to fuck a whole country out of guns

the absolute madman

>>33291677
That's a good point and the trapdoor rifle kept jamming during the battle, with hundreds of Indians around it was a bad time for a rifle to jam.

>>33291644
If you were transported back in time to 1860, is there a rifle you'd rather have? The firepower of an Henry Rifle was revolutionary. Really the only thing it lacked was a removable magazine.

Which makes me think... Why hasn't anybody designed a tube magazine that can be inserted from the bottom, rather than from the front? The magazine would be oriented the exact same way, but would snap into retaining clips under the barrel, slipping into the magazine well from the front.

>>33291716
Because the tube magazine is obsolete you fucking retard.

>>33291752
He meant back when it wasnt. And it's simple;
>but people might lose it!
That shit took until WWII to dispell.

Anyway the Winchester came quickly after and you load that from a side gate. That's why.

>>33291644
.44 Rimfire was basically a pistol cartridge, i get what Karl is coming from but it is not the first "Assault Rifle"

>>33291716
You're going to want to rephrase that if you want it to make sense.

If youre asking why nobody makes quick change mag tubes, bulk is the big answer, loading gates come second.

Now if you meant having the loading port at the rear and say a tab/button like on .22 pistol mags that would allow you to run the spring and follower up the tube so you could drop ammo in, that would be neat. But considering pump action rifles never took off its no surprise that things plateau once they become "good enough"

>>33291830
It's not literally an assault rifle no, but for its time and often it's usage it's close. Look at how close the M1/M2 carbines are to being assault rifles or various ww1 Era guns.

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>>33291716
>>33291865
Like this.

>>33291830
>44 Rimfire was basically a pistol cartridge
7.9 Kurz was basically a pistol cartridge

>>33292055
You have a point,we should ask Ian if there was any gun that used this design.

>>33292089
Could this be implemented today for niche markets like Australia or American fuds?

>>33292105
I dont see why not,hell even a helical design for more capacity would be great as a modernization to this.

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>>33291644
Karl should stick with doing mud test

what happen to the arsenal AK he got for free

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>>33292089
some thing like the Bizon and the Korea 100 round mag?

>>33292055
something very similar already exists for tube fed shotguns

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3Hs4do69ms

>>33292055
>Clip

>>33291644
Karl is an ass. By his definition the ppsh41 is an assault rifle. Oh don't forget about the Thompson or any fucking sub machine gun.

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>>33292383
This sort of clip, numb nuts.

>>33292055
where do you carry these long tubes on your person?

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>>33292439
He's talking in terms of its impact in that era. Contain your autism for one second before hauling off on another shitpost.

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>>33292469
If it works for archers, it'll work for riflemen.

>Karl is retarded

Woah what a surprise

>>33292445
>Filename
Fucking triggered

>>33293178
clip clip clip clip clip clip clip

>>33291644
it's genius, really. he's right. it's the first step in the evolution of the assault rifle.

>>33291644
I had this opinion for quite a while.

Karl is pretty much confirmed for autism
>.300 memeout is 8mm kurz
>LARPing
>running his rifle
etc.

But he sometimes, when stars align his autism turns into superpower.
>>33292055
google shogun speedloader, it's not the same thing but it shows how unconfortable it would be

>>33293214
REEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>33292055
Take a look at the Spencer Carbine, It was used during the American Civil War and the Paraguay War (by brazilian cavalry) with great success. The soldier would carry tubes of ammo for quick reloads.

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>>33293423
The difference between this idea and a shotgun speed loader is with my idea the magazine tube would be completely detachable. Shotgun speed loaders use tubes to load a fixed magazine tube.

But yes, I can see how those shotgun speed loader tubes are awkward. I feel like if you stored them in a quiver across your back they'd be a lot better though.

>>33291644
Karl loves to LARP, and make some kind of insightful point on history.

This is both happening again. It is a cool idea, and, as he said, based on application the early lever actions kind of were used in the same ways as the early assault rifles.

>>33293544
Were these ammo tubes inserted into the stock, or did they just dump the rounds out of tube into the stock magazine?

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>>33292482
He is talking about what his interpretation of the assault rifle is and how the Henry fits that. Clean Karl's cum out of your ears, slut.

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I like Karl's point, and he defends it well. One could also argue that the Colt Walker was a similar concept (despite not being a rifle.) The Walker was designed to extend the range of a pistol, sort of like how the StG and AK-47 were designed to extend the range of a submachine gun; while the Henry was designed to increase close range firepower of the rifle, like the AR-15.

>inb4 not a rifle

>>33292469
They had them for Spencers:
http://www.civilwar.si.edu/weapons_blakeslee.html

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>>33291644

>>33293557
>The difference between this idea and a shotgun speed loader is with my idea the magazine tube would be completely detachable. Shotgun speed loaders use tubes to load a fixed magazine tube.
I understand this.

Back quiver would be problematic for putting back spent magazines (it's safe to assume you wouldn't just drop them) and there also problem of preventing them from falling out. >>33293544 mounted on hip would be better.

>>33293557
Also with back mounted quiver you have no way of checking amount of magazines left.

>>33293596
They just hold the rounds, you dump them and insert the spring tube with the follower and twist it to close. A little awkward but the spencer carbines can be more impervious to dirt and was prefered by the Brazilian cavalry at the time, specially considering they could digest the nigger-rigged bullets made in brazil at the time, while the Winchester1873 coudn't. I'm not sure if Brazil imported any Henrys.

>>33291716
Sharps, you inbred savage

>>33293721
Since when did Sharps rifles have removable tube magazines?

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>>33292055
>clip

>>33293753
CLIP CLIP CLIP CLIP CLIP CLIP CLIP: >>33292445

>>33292152
I have asked him kn multiple videos to test it. The increased bolt velocity and newer springs should aid in overcoming friction.

He still won't do it for some retarded reason, probably because he's a fucking autist.