Why do people like to glorify the losers of wars?

Because we started giving medals for just partaking instead of winning

>>33291175
The good guys aren't always the winners.

>>33291175

muh aesthetics, muh ideology, muh plenty of reasons...

>>33291189

In this case they mostly are though

>>33291201
Yeah because the winner shilled harder for their cause afterward.

>>33291189
/thread.

>>33291212

Well, seeing how I have free speech, and am able to call bullshit when I see one, I mostly agree with this theory.

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>>33291175
>tfw the good guys (sans ottomans) lost WW1

>>33291228
>tfw if the Germans won in 1914, all that would have happened is some shifting of territories, a rise in German international greatness and yet another minor change in European power structure
>tfw they lost and we got the rest of WWI, WWII, the Soviet Union, Hitler, Stalin, the Cold War, Communism, Fascism and hippies.

>>33291265

Or if they had lost against the frogs in 1870. Maybe this would've been a fatal blow to the then newly united Germany, and would have crushed it back to a confederation once more, with surrounding countries annexing some parts here and there.

>>33291265
>tfw if there were no germans world peace would be achieved

>>33291265
Fucking this. The world wouldn't be a magical utopia with a central powers victory, Africa and Asia would've been fucked over royally by the additional troops available to hold colonies, but it sure beats all the fascism and cold war bullshit the world is still digging it's way out from under.

>>33291291
Or if Napoleon wasn't a cunt and decided he needed to conquer Europe, the German states wouldn't have felt the need to unify to prevent French imperialist expansion.

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>>33291265
>>33291291
>>33291297
>tfw you think about how things could have been or be

>>33291175

We glorify strength. We glorify winners, even if those wins are temporary. We glorify winners who look like ourselves. We glorify things who we perceive are slightly outside the politically correct, calling them 'cool'. Bikers. Punk rockers. Teabaggers. Mafia guys. Templar knight. Fucking VAMPIRES. They give us a thrill, while we wait for the TV dinner to get finished in the microwave oven so we can eat it while watching a reality show. Generation whatever.

>>33291265
well wasn't the Soviet Union and the gommies a product of Russia getting spanked fighting Austria and friends?
Wasn't Marxism still a totally real ideology, having already begun actualizing?

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>>33291265
>tfw We (The US) could have prevented this Cold War bullshit had we focused more manpower against the Bolsheviks while the Brits should have purged the Labour Party for being Communist Sympathizer
>mfw

>>33291349
>Russia getting spanked fighting Austria and friends?
>what is the Brusilov Offensive

>>33291307

Or if said Europe didn't had a fit over the frogs being tired of their king's bullshits, and tried to rekt the republic to pieces, affraid that it would spread (spoil: which it eventually did).

Not arguing about the Napoleon being a cunt tho. But Prussians and Anglos had it coming.

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>>33291351
“Bolshevism must be strangled in its cradle,”
Yet another case where we didn't listen to him

Because war in general is glorified, so there's a bit of overflow

Because we live in a judeo-christian culture that glorifies the underdog. Think David and Goliath, Ben Hur and other Jewish legends that were fed to us when we were young. Also, we look at everything from a postmodern standpoint, there is no more objectivity in history. We cant say that one side was the good guys and the other the baddies.

>>33291403

Well, all cultures love the underdog, as long as the dog gets in at least one good bit. It's just human.

>>33291175

what people the fuck are you talking about ?

gdamn libtards in the west ?

>>33291403
>judeo-christian
why do people say this?
the west has much to thank for Christianity, and little to thank for Judaism
>inb4 'Christianity came from Judaism'
the governing philosophy and chief tenants of theology in Christianity are very much unlike that of the Jews
Honestly, just call it Christendom, the Jews are not ours.

>>33291525
>just call it Christendom, the Jews are not ours.
Christians are a type of Jew and worship one too

>>33291525
>and little to thank for Judaism

lol

i suppose you don't know much about xtian theology but that's ok

the west really was founded on J-C stuff, not just xnity

and yes xnity has drifted quite far from its roots because of "bible only" clowns which is good & bad

>>33291560
Christ was the Son of God, born of a virgin birth

He wasn't a Jew, he was God

>>33291581
uhm... Have you read the bible or do you just go based off of what you hear from others?

>>33291577
Could you tell me more, because with Jews we have a few tenants like monotheism (even this is strained with christian notions of the trinity and such, that Jews views as heretical polytheism) but otherwise they conduct their religious business unlike Christians.

Regardless, what does the west have to thank Judaism for, omitting the contested 'Christianity came from Judaism' argument?

>>33291599
where am i wrong?

>uhm...
very tumblr-esque desu w/u

>>33291608
a great banking system

>>33291560
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ls_8jHqTCo8

>>33291613
Yes good goyim, it's great for you and us (but mainly us)

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>>33291560
>and worship one too
Jesus was a man from Judea, it was a nationality not an ethnicity. That Jesus is considered a Jew these days is, alongside the whole shall not kill/shall not murder mistranslation, the key factor in why modern secular Christendom is such an insipid cuck ideology.

>>33291219
>Well, seeing how I have free speech, and am able to call bullshit when I see one, I mostly agree with this theory.
ahah oh the irony.
That's a good one anon.

>>33291265
>if the germans won in 1914

Do you think that nukes would have created later than they were if this were the case?

>>33291189
This.

>>33291175
>Why do people like to glorify the losers of wars?

why are spergs triggered by certain threads?

>>33291820

Uh you mistook my post for a joke, I was serious actually.

Can you tell me why you think my post was funny anonymous poster?

>>33291659
Mary was Jewish, and since the mother is Jewish the kid is Jewish.

Jesus also followed Jewish tradition, like passover dinner, eating kosher foods, and sabbath, which wasn't a thing in the rest of the Roman world.

>ywn fight for the Kaiserreich
why even live
I miss monarchies

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>>33291189
>1000 year reich
>does not even last 12 years
>b-bu-but germans are good guys!
>b-bu-but americans did dresden!

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>>33292693
>Jesus also followed Jewish tradition, like passover dinner, eating kosher foods, and sabbath
>source being Jewish """"intellectuals""""

>>33292726
The Jews won, no one else.

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>>33291189
because most of the not stupid enough to not see how the world turn up see how it indeed turned up to be and see ww2 as one of the last attempts to breaking the commom narrative, also it doesn't take much to see that black propaganda took the place as legitimate history.

Also fuck off and this should be in pol and not here.

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>>33291613
Get a load of this guy.

>>33292732
I mean, it's only the New Testament

Luke 22.7+Luke 22.8

> Then came the day of Unleavened Bread on which the Passover lamb had to be sacrificed. Jesus sent Peter and John, saying, “Go and make preparations for us to eat the Passover.

Matthew 12

> Jesus said to them, “If any of you has a sheep and it falls into a pit on the Sabbath, will you not take hold of it and lift it out? How much more valuable is a person than a sheep! Therefore it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath.”

Or is your brand of "Christianity" the one that considered the four gospels blasphemy.

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>>33291366
yeah and i'm also tired of unverified quotes (like the pic related in which i have no idea if its true or not), if he was that much against bolshevism..

>>33291581
Lol, people actually believe this.

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>>33292788
>Also fuck off and this should be in pol and not here.
This.

>>33292406
Because you really should go out and say "Holocaust didn't happen" and see how much of a freedom of speech you actually have, you silly cunt.

t: different

>its a 'im gonna try to le redpill /k/' thread

stop preaching to the choir, if we wanted to talk about this kind of crap we would go to /pol/. when people come to /k/ they want to see threads about weapons, thats why we have different boards.

>>33292813
Even Christians observe Sabbath and Passover, it's hardly exclusively Jewish tradition.

>>33292833
>>33292788
>wahh wahh I don't like others peoples opinions.

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>>33291175
MEN (not to be confused with people) glorify those who fought bravely and to the last drop of blood, to the last breath, against fearful odds, against much stronger enemy. Even if they lost.

If you don't understand that, than you're a faggot.

>>33292818

He hated them both. IIRC he said something to the effect if Hitler invaded Hell, Churchill would speak out in favor of the devil.

>>33292850

So, why would Christians observe a Jewish holiday.

And by the way, all 12(?) Christians in 32 AD.

>>33292818
Shove that img up your ass, stupid nazi-lover. UK did almost everything to prevent war with Germany, including giving them fuckload of money.

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>>33292900
>...Churchill would speak out in favor of the devil
It's not that we didn't know already anon

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>>33292931
I just save a lot of random imgs to find them more about them later anonberg, there isn't need to be afraid. btw about the
>"UK did almost everything to prevent war with Germany, including giving them fuckload of money."

could you give me links about that?

>>33291175
I assume you're only talking about the nazis? I didn't used too. I was in the infantry for years and got a hard on watching Band of Brothers when the nazis were getting killed. Then I switched jobs to psyop and realized that the propaganda we produced during WW2 got taken by the American public as truth and thus is what was put in text books. However, I still couldn't wrap my head around gas chambers. Working with Civil Affairs, I learnt about how people in our modern displaced persons camps are treated in the same way that most Holocaust camp survivors claim. I started thinking about how maybe the gas chambers where made up and that the crematorium is simply to burn the dead from typhus. I visited Arlington national cemetery and talked to one of the tour guides and that settled it. There under the Amphitheater they had catacombs in which they kept bodies during the winter when it was too cold to dig graves. They even have an elevator to move the bodies just like in the alleged gas chamber in Auschwitz. This has troubled me a lot recently. Just thought I'd share my story.

>>33292915
Because Christianity evolved from Judaism.

>>33291175
Do you feel like a hero yet?

>>33293025
that's commom thing to know.. if you don't know the church's history before Vatican II

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>>33291189
This. In principle.

Wasn't the case in WWII though.

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>>33291581
>Jesus wasn't Jewish
Do you have autism? You think Jesus was European or something?

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>>33291611
Jesus was born in a Jewish town to a Jewish mother and identified himself as a Jew. He is literally referred to as "King of the Jews" in the New Testament.

>>33293017
Interesting, thanks for sharing. Remember, the people who started the wide spread lies about the gas chambers were the Soviets, and they REALLY had to work hard to make themselves seem like the lesser evil.

>>33293004
>could you give me links about that?
I had them a while back, can't find them now, for obvious reasons brits don't brag about it.
But they did lend a lot of money to Germany when it was in crisis, fearing that economical crisis might lead to extremists taking over, like they did.
Obviously, their aid didn't help, instead, Hitler used that money to help fund the war machine.

You might want to read this, though:
http://alphahistory.com/weimarrepublic/american-assistance/

>>33291581
Jesus wasn't god. He was the son of god.

>>33291201
History shall be kind to me for I intend to write it.

Hitler did nothing wrong.

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>>33292726
>thinks the soviets were good guys
>doesn't know what a gulag is
>never heard of the Holodomor
>doesn't know a MILLION russian POW's fought for Germany, unprecedented in world history

you are like a little babby

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>>33292726
The Russians were fucking monsters that repulsed both sides.

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>>33293093
nice anon, i'll take a look.

but seriously anon, don't take personally, a lot of folks here likes to dig some unknow history, be it people lending money to the national socialist party before they took power, or that hitler sorta wanted to put jews on palestine or madagascar i don't remember right now, I think it was something like havara something

point being, it's not because some anons don't see the allies as being 100% good guys that they think germans did nothing wrong, that I leave for the polish during the viena siege back in the 17th..

anyway, besides meme and shitposting i'd like to ask other anons here that we keep things more civil, other wise this will be no better than youtube channels flames wars.

peace

>>33291293
There would be a dozen different German flags on /int/ and even more shitposting

>>33293079
The thing that really hit me is that I can now understand how some thing like it could have happened here in the USA. We put Japanese into camps, not unlike the jews in Germany and Poland. Just think if we were losing the war and some how the fronts were closing in from West and East coast. Food distribution starts declining and typhus starts killing people. Who would be the first people to get food and medical treatment? Not the Japanese. Things like human experimentation by the nazis I think was mostly made up but we cant even claim the high ground on that! Things like the Tuskegee Syphilis Experiments goes to show that our own government is capable of such horrible things.

I don't think the nazis were any more guilty of things like war crimes than we were. Because of this I think I can look at their beliefs now and ideals with less of a negative bias and I start finding myself agreeing with a lot of it. (I'm on my phone so I cant spell check any of this easily. Sry if I sound retarded)

>>33291826
probably even earlier, Germany and America would have had more money for research and they would probably work together

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>>33293176
didn't saw the holodomor movie that might come out, if it did, is it any good?

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>>33293225
>I don't think the nazis were any more guilty of things like war crimes than we were.

I do have a problem with people claiming that the Allies are absolved of all guilt, but that doesn't effect my disgust with Nazis. They are vilified for credible reasons beyond their loss.

>>33293234
Not likely, unless Germany paid the war debts FOR the entente, since they owed the US about 9 billion dollars in 1918, at a time when the GDP was 75 billion dollars. That's just sovereign debt, there were also many private loans.

Germany taking it's war reparations from the Entente would mean nothing left to pay back the US with, the US would likely have intervened on the side of the Entente just to get their money back.

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>>33293340
Do you also have problems when you have to read in class?

>>33293260
>They are vilified for credible reasons beyond their loss.

Like what? Before you start spouting off MUH HOLOCAUST bear in mind that anecdotal """evidence""" is hearsay and nothing more. It's taught in schools that the atrocities committed against ethnic Germans living in Poland and Czechoslovakia were "myths" and yet somehow shit like gas chamber rollercoasters is taught in schools as fact.

Everyone in WWII was a criminal, that's how politics were back then. Can Germany really be blamed for wanting to take back what was once theirs? If anyone is to blame for WWII, it's France with their completely unfair and asinine Treaty of Versailles that lobbied all of the blame for WWII on Germany despite the fact that Germany repeatedly attempted to avoid the War at all costs.

>>33293424
>the holocaust didn't happen and the germans did nothing bad
>but the allies were just as bad as the germans

Which is it?

You can't have your cake and eat it too.

>>33293260
My belief is that if roles had been reversed and Japanese soldiers walked up to Japanese-American internment camps and found a bunch of dead people and stockpiles of DDT they would have said we were gassing people too. I have no doubt that if our situation was as desperate as Germany's was in 1945 the same horrible things that happened there would have happened here.

Its just that people don't even realize how bad some of the things we did were. One of my favorite stories growing up was my grandfather talking about what it was like in Japan post-war. They would steal rigshaws race them from the whore houses back to the ship, betting a months pay, and then chuck them in the water. Its a great story and I still love my grand father but those rickshaws were probably somebodies lively hood.

I'm not a hard core neo-nazi (I think I'm closer to a bleeding hard liberal desu). I know that they massacred people and did a whole bunch of other bad things but I just don't think that we can say we were any better.

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>>33293225
I myself have really hard time blaming the Germans even for the annexation of other countries, since they were treated so unfairly at the end of WW1. The French themselves have had revanchist attitudes for even lesser territorial losses, they really shouldn't had complained for Germany wanting to bring German majority areas back into their own country.

I can't defend them for annexing the whole of Czechoslovakia though, but when you think about what was going on with Poland, I do believe that a peaceful resolution would have been possible. Hitler himself was fairly favourable to the Poles because he respected them for beating the Soviets in a war earlier and highly respected the late Polish marshal Józef Piłsudski.

However with the backing of both UK and France the Poles decided that they didn't have to compromise with the Germans but even with all the guarantees that they had received from the allies, at the end of war Poland ended up as a Soviet puppet with the allies having shown only little concrete support for to the Poles, even after the Poles that had fled the country had fought as volunteers for the allies.

Funny thing about the invasion of Poland is that allies used it as the reason for declaring war on Germany in order to protect Poland's independence, but they didn't do anything like that when Soviets invaded Poland. This to me would imply that their main interest for defending Poland was to gain a good casus belli against Germany.

In the end I have to draw the conclusion that all the major powers were only fighting for their own gains, not for some higher cause or justice, though their war time rhetoric and propaganda made good work of convincing many people that their actions were justified. Just like in all wars many suffer and few thrive.

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>>33291349
During WW1 the germans was trying to destabilize their enemies by stirring up revolt.
They found lenin and his bolschevik friends in switzerland, spies contacted him and makes a deal: they get him back to russia, he fuels the fires of revolution which has already sparked up slightly earlier.
>deal
so they put him in a train through germany-sweden-russian finland and then into Petrograd (St. Petersburg, capital at the time) lenin does his magic, in 1917 russia pulls out of the war. something something civil war something soviet union is formed. fast forward to WW2 nazi germany needs food, oil, lebensraum and less communism in the world so they invade the soviet union and the soviet union rapes them all the way up to 1991
Picture shows land that russia lost in the following treaty, some of it became states, some became occupied by germany.

>>33293448
I would say that its not that the Holocaust didn't happen but it was not intended as a genocide of all jewish people in the world. There are very many things that are exaggerated, like the use of human hair shaved off people before the were allegedly gassed. What would you want to make with a bunch of typhus lice infected hair? It is much more likely that people were shaved to try and keep them from contracting typhus and dying in mass like they did at the end of the war.

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>>33293424
>Everyone in WWII was a criminal, that's how politics were back then.

Implying they're different now? That's an awfully simplistic view of world history, Nazi apologist.

>>33291189
>>/pol/

>>33292835
There's absolutely nothing stopping him from saying that.

What happened, did you get bullied by tumblristas for having an unpopular opinion? You still have freedom of speech, even if you're afraid to use it.

>>33291189
This

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>>33291581
are you shitting me?

>>33293695
There are several countries where you can get jailed for it or at least you might get fired for it.

>>33291581
Explain the trinity and how something could predate god? Why are your views so contradictory?

>>33293517
Is he wrong though?

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Why do people glorify commieretards when they lost the war and collapsed?

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>>33291175

>Not having a level of respect for both sides of wars

>>33291212

>Start a war
>Conduct yourself in the shittiest ways you can in said war
>Build death camps all over the continent and commit mass murder w/ millions of victims

Not really that ambiguous anon. The allies have a lot of blood on their hands what with fire bombing and all, but Germany established itself as an existential threat to the sovereignty of almost every European country. If you start kicking in the doors of all your neighbors houses, don't be surprised if they burn yours down.

>>33293452
>those rickshaws were probably somebodies lively hood.

And a splendid example of why you don't start a war unless you know you can win it.

If you do some fucked up shit, and take the first swing, expect to have your rickshaw dumped in the water when you lose.

>>33293424
>It's taught in schools that the atrocities committed against ethnic Germans living in Poland and Czechoslovakia were "myths"

Keep in mind that """anecdotal""" evidence is hearsay...

>>33293424
Here's some: http://imgur.com/a/725A7

>Can Germany really be blamed for wanting to take back what was once theirs?
Yes, because they did so so there could a be ethnically pure land. Which meant killed hundreds of thousands of people. How is France to be blamed?
>Get invaded
>take massive casualties
>get concessions after war is over

>>33293511
That's literally what is was you idiot, they mentioned them specifically, and other groups they saw as inferior.
>The Nazis were the good guys, they shaved the heads of people so they wouldn't get lice before they gassed them, so how nice they were.
Literally you right now

>>33294500
Thanks for that link.

>>33292835
I can, and if someone tries to kill me for it I can shoot them. Freedom bitch

t. murrican

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>>33294454
>And a splendid example of why you don't start a war unless you know you can win it.
Yes, damn those dastardly ricksaw pullers for personally bombing Pearl Harbor!

>>33293517
>wahh wahh anyone who disagrees with me is /pol/

kys

>>33291189
Go back to /pol/

>>33294500
>that link
Doesn't anyone else find it at all suspicious that the only camps that are labeled as extermination camps are ones liberated by the Soviets?

>>33294680
Yeah it's not like the vast majority of people they exterminated were from eastern europe or anything

>>33293199
>>33293176
>Soviets were the bad guys

Correct.

>that means the Nazis were the good guys

Pre-schooler tier logic.

The Soviets are portrayed as the good guys because they:
a.) won, and therefore were in almost complete control of how history was recorded all over their sphere of influence, and
b.) got invaded (more like stabbed in the back by the Axis cool kids club they were actively trying to join as late as 1940), which allowed them to whitewash the conquest and subsequent occupation / control of half of Europe as "liberation" and doomed any Allied attempt to drive them out in time to bitter failure.

>>33291175
Because most people got bullied by some black person in high school, or the girl they hoped would be their gf got picked up by a black guy.

>>33291189
I'm not sure if they are good guys. I mean WW2 vets are based as fuck, and I am glad WW2 vets won and lived, but like I am happy we won because I'm not sure if living under German rule would be nice because we will never know.

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>>33291189
Because people don't want their country overrun with immigrants, and pine for a government that would have prevented that

>>33294790
So I guess it would make sense to build concentration camps all over Europe where they would just keep the Jews at their leisure, only to later ship them to Eastern Europe so they can turn them all into soap?

>>33291175
Nazi's employed Arabs and any friend of an Arab is an Enemy of mine.

I support whoever would have nuked the Arab world. We wouldn't have problems in London, Sweden, Toronto, France, or Germany if we had gone and teamed up against Muhammad.

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>>33291297
>Africa and Asia would've been fucked over royally by the additional troops available to hold colonies
Because Africa did so well on its own.

>>33293176
>doesn't know what a gulag is
Jap-American internment camps

>never heard of the Holodomor
Hiroshima and Nagasaki

Really the rest of the allies weren't much better, the difference is that they won.

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>>33293223
Underated post.

>>33294680
>the only camps that are labeled as extermination camps are ones liberated by the Soviets
How did you come to that conclusion?

>>33294680
No, many of the camps liberated by the Soviets were extermination camps because a large swath of the exterminations were happening in Eastern Europe.

>>33294850
The majority of Jews in Europe at the time lived in EE, many were transported to camps while others were shot and left in fields.

>>33294892
>Jap-American internment camps
was a hugely fucked up thing to do that this a stain on the US, but we didn't start exterminating them from the outset, unlike Germany.

>Hiroshima and Nagasaki
ended a war where the cost of invasion would have been much higher

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>>33294892
>Jap-American internment camps
>lasted 4 years
>around 120,000 prisoners, less than 2000 dead, most due to sicknesses or natural causes

>Gulag
>lasted 40 years officially, 70 years in reality
>tens of millions of people imprisoned, deaths estimated at anywhere between 2-30 million with no way to get any reasonable estimate because the decade after 1918, the WWII and the 50's all saw people picked up and slaughtered en masse by the Cheka / GPU / OGPU / NKVD / MVD / KGB without anyone bothering to keep real records, and with even less records surviving to this day

How fucking braindead do you even have to be to compare these two unironically?

>>33293045
You mean like the first Christians were Jews? And how gentiles weren't allowed to worship Christ without first converting to Judaism? And how the early Church lost all credibility with the Romans and Greeks when this changed, leading to general charges of atheism and an on again, off again purge of Christians? And how Jesus is referred to several times in the old testament as a rabbi, even going so far as to preside over whatever the Jews call their worship service in the temple? Try harder, you apostate fag.

>>33294872
Think that was his point bruh

>>33291189
very much this.

>>33295300
>ended a war where the cost of invasion would have been much higher

Yeah, that's bullshit. Don't get me wrong, I'm perfectly fine with the atomic bombs dropped on Japan. I honestly wish we'd had more to drop, 'cause fuck those guys. They deserved it. However, that doesn't change the fact that the easiest and most cost effective way to deal with the Japan problem would've been a blockade combined with sporadic precision bombing. Japan is an island nation with extremely limited resources. We could have literally starved them out with a minimum of effort and risk. Fat Man and Little Boy were nothing more or less than a way to put the boot in to Japan while simultaneously denying the Russians a foothold in the pacific.

>>33291525
Judaism is younger than Christianity. The exact religion practiced by Abraham has no practitioners. There is no Temple, no priesthood, and there are no prophets, all three of which are required for the continuation of that faith. That religion as it was practiced is dead. Its spirit lives on through Christendom, and it has nothing to do with the Jews of today. 1 Thessalonians 2:14-15 tells us very clearly that "the Jews" displease God and are "contrary to all men."

Only the Christians, specifically the Orthodox Christians, still have the priesthood, prophets, and Temple (which we know from scripture to be the body of the church through which the Holy Spirit works.)

>TL;DR none of you faggots know what you're talking about

>>33295969
But the Jews god's chosen people. It's said when they rebuild Solomon's temple it will begin the apocalypse

>>33295969
What the fuck are you talking about? And I guess Europeans haven't corrupted Christianity at all either.

>>33295758
Sure if you want to the war to last another few years, look how much trouble the Germans had with Russian villages and cities then multiply that times 100 with Japan. WW2 was not a war that was measured in cost effectiveness. The plan was to always land in Japan and fight for it tooth and nail.

>>33293025
Judaism is not the Old Testament religion. Judaism arose decades after Christ's crucifixion when rabbis would gather to bicker in synagogues (not the Temple, which had been destroyed). The central text of Judaism, the Babylonian Talmud, is younger than all of the books of the New Testament. Judaism is a farce begun by Pharisees and other detractors who scorned Jesus Christ, God in the flesh. They would hold debates in their synagogues quarrelling about the law, then they called these squabbles their "oral Torah." Many years later, while the Christian Church was coming to its rightful place of strength, this litigious "oral Torah" heresy became inscribed in what is called the Talmud.

Christianity is the only continuation of the Old Testament religion still practiced today.

>>33296058
Galatians 3:29
"if you belong to Christ, them you are the seed of Abraham and heir according to the promise."

That promise is the same promise from Genesis.

Jews don't have special blood. Their bloodline is a created thing and cannot save them. This belief of an enduring "chosen" status for the Jews because of their blood is idolatry, and we know from Romans 1 that "they [those against God] worship created things rather than the Creator." They are deniers of Christ and will all go to hell as long as they remain unaccepting of the sacrifice of the Son of God for the sake of sinful man.

No rebellion against God is rewarded with His fellowship in the kingdom of heaven. Only repentance and a walk with Christ leads to the Father, for Christ said "no-one comes to the father except by me."

>>33296115
Protestants are heretics.

>>33294680
Belson was liberated by the brits and canadians

>>33296132
Unless those Russian villages were built on water that has nothing at all to do with a naval blockade of Japan. Or is your problem that you don't know what a blockade is?

>>33293924
Well gee whizz thank god I live in the country that won the war.
It aint my fault Germans are a bunch of faggots.

>>33291189
The good guys are usually the ones that stayed out of the war. The Swiss shot down both American and German planes entering their airspace.

>>33294212
You mean by invading some eastern euro shit country with a somewhat valid cb was them knocking down doors? Most if the other things you mention only occurring after they were forced into it?

>>33291175
History is written by the winner so they can feel good about themselves and particularly in this case they can make sure the population never goes for fascism or anything similar because "we beat those guys by funding out enemies" and "capitalism and communism aren't globalist, Pedro simply deserves your job and to bed your Transgender son"

>>33291175
>Why do people like to glorify the losers of wars?

Good question ask Hillary or Bernie

>>33300626
>invading some eastern euro shit country

Blackmailing Austria into getting annexed.
Forcibly annexing Czechoslovakia after promising everyone not to if they get the Sudetenland they had no claim to until Henlein started memeing about MUH ETHNIC GERMANS.
Invading Poland.

>with a somewhat valid cb

It was a literal false flag operation, a textbook one, how much more delusional can you get?

>they were forced into it

Oh no, the Allies declared war on us just because we repeatedly broke our guarantees and invaded their allies!
What to do? Oh, I know, how about we invade France, Belgium, Holland, Greece, Yugoslavia, the USSR and try to invade Great Britain?

Yeah. Forced into it. The Allies wanted so bad to prevent another war in Europe they went out of their way to give Hitler what he wanted in exchange for guarantees, and Hitler used it to get away with aggression and encroachment that would result in a war at any other point in history. Hell, even after they formally declared war on him, there was no active aid provided to Poland except for the blockade and a 9-day French "campaign" that resulted in some 200 casualties after which they withdrew for no reason. Fucking Stormshit retard.

>>33291175

It's the same way for mass shooters. We pretty much make them into demigods with how much media they get, while demonizing the good guy, because guns are bad, protecting yourself is a no no.

>>33300753
>voluntary annexation of Austria footage of which is readily available is bad
>annexing lands full of ethnic Germans because of Hitler's want for a pan Germanic state and in Poland where they were being abused is le evil
>implying Hitler invaded any of those countries other than the Soviet union until after the west had started the world war already
>muh convenient false flag makes it bad whether or not it was justified without it
>implying western powers didn't choose to ignore the Soviet unions expansion because the global elite deemed Hitler more fo a threat

Well atleast we lived long enough to have Tyrone fuck out daughters right?

>>33300758
Sure that works with edge lords but there is an increasing amount of people who just like the ideology more.