NODs vs Thermals

>>33289605
Instead of saying "which is better", we should ask "In which situation is one better in".

In Iraq, thermals were shitty when the sun was setting or after it set, as thermals would show items such as metal being body temp hot as opposed to our 14D.

However, in sand storms, thermals were better for viewing at larger distances, as the IR in our 14D were blocked out with the dust in the air, hence we couldn't see shit. Situation calls for different pieces of equipment, and unless you have the money to buy both, one should themselves which situation would they use said item the most in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mrb1TCgeDPo

Both!

>>33289922
How about night time ops?
Were you in a tank?

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>>33290040
Buy NODs for nav.

Civvie here, bought 14's and now I hike and bring them everywhere. 200mi+ backpacking and climbing at night, not to mention Coolguy stuff.

If you're asking this question, just buy a set of 14's and if you need duals or thermals down the line, so be it. No Gen1/2 garbage, you can't see shit and need illuminators. Defeats the purpose unless you're hog hunting, but 14's can be had for sub $2k if you watch around.

>Patient Jew
>$500 flawless PVS-14s
Plz no NCIS

>>33290014
Those things break so often.

>>33289605
Thermals for your gun, NVGs for your noggin.

>>33290203
>Those things break so often.
Really? do you have any experience with them?

>>33290014
why didn't it detect that guy on 0:06 ?

>>33289605
I use a yukon night scope on one of my rifles, its pretty decent for what I use it for, but it needs an extra illuminator to see past 100m

>>33290511
Because it's a cyborg.

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>>33290509
Yes, they make your helmet too heavy, and all of the switches and electronics are too fragile.

>>33290581
sooo. it can be improved easily, right?

>>33290511
reptilian

>>33290606

I'm sure, but at the moment its a mediocre combination of two different fragile technologies.

They're both good for different things. The ultimate redpill of image intensification is helmet-mounted gen3 NV monocular over non-dominate eye and thermal sight mounted on weapon, but that's out of most peoples price range.

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>>33289605
Both

>>33290119
How long do batteries last? What kind donthey take?

What would it look like if you had one of each for each eye?

What's the cheapest NV scope? I'm going to mount UV lights all around my fence line on motion detectors so the scope itself isn't so important on its own for light amplification. Fucking "racoons"

>>33289605
NODs make me feel like an oper8er, and makes explosions look cool.
So I choose those.

>>33291033
>When combat starts to look like 90's anime

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>PVS-14 Gen 3 on clear night sky with %95 moon

roughly 25yrds

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>M952V IR Mode

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>ATPIAL-C Red VIS Laser

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>M600V IR Mode

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>ATPIAL-C IR Laser

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>ATPIAL-C IR Laser and IR Illuminator

just some info to help people decide.

Thermals will be cheaper and smaller way before NODs will be. So consider that when purchasing either.

>>33289605
What I've seen work well is PVS-14/ANVIS9/PVS-15 on helmet and Thermal scope on the gun.

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judging from how far /k/ hass fallen in the past 4-5 months your all to poor to afford the pinnacle of both. with the weaknesses for neither fragility or focusing requirements. save up 40000 and see the night as if it were the light. optics planet offers 1000 off so 48000.

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>>33292127
plus it allows for edge detection.

>>33292127
>"save up 40000 and see the night as if it were the light."
>Quality of a shitty $3k thermal viewer, except it has a photoshop photo-to-sketch filter built in
I think Ill stick with my G3 PVS14 and Torry pine for now.

>>33292127
Soo why not just get something like pvs-15 and a COTI? Pretty much the same shit for way less, not even going to mention that pvs-21 is a questionable device.

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>>33292133
Thanks to you and photoshop, I made me a meem

>>33292268
i had exactly the same in mind when i saw >>33292133

>>33292318
I might make more, but not sure

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>>33292268
with my powers of photo finding and your Photoshop skills we are unstoppable. I want to see more dedicated android/Linux thermal devices soon

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>>33292337
I just downloaded photoshop and never used it before, and I did this, and it worked, and I'm happy.

If only Maya from NGE was real, and not lesbian.

>>33290511
They are viewing these at a trade show (notice the booths). 99% sure that the fully kitted out guy it 'missed' is a mannequin.

>>33289605
I would buy thermal since it's day and night useable. It has some drawbacks but overall more uses.

>NOD
Enjoy your multi thousand dollar piece of hardware be ruined in a split second by some chucklefuck with a flashlight.
>thermal
Enjoy having the visual range of a guard from MGS

>>33292206
Im glad people are pushing tech but as it stands that shit is way too expensive and not nearly good enough to justify dropping almost 50,000 on. That would be like buying a IBM punchcard computer in the 70s, the tech is going to explode soonish but right now it's way too primitive.

>>33294346
>Enjoy your multi thousand dollar piece of hardware be ruined in a split second by some chucklefuck with a flashlight.

Why would you even offer your opinion when you don't know dick?

>>33291222
what do you think the nerdy af engineers designing this shit grew up watching?
theres a reason the future always ends up looking similar to what people thought it would look like

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>>33292133
>>33292268

>>33290511
vampire

>>33290014
I have friend who barrowed a peq 20 from his armory one night for a hog hunt. They are hands down the most awesome thing I have ever played with.

>>33292127
>save up 40000 and see the night as if it were the light
>implying anyone on /k/ needs $40,000 optics
>inb4 "needs"
poorfag night optics will meet the average /k/ommando's needs.

>>33295029
Even autogated tubes aren't immune to damage.

>>33295062
>theres a reason the future always ends up looking similar to what people thought it would look like

>no flying cars
>no hoverboards
>no space / moon / mars colonies
>no laser or plasma weapons
>no nuclear fusion
>no cloaking technology
>no wormhole travel
>no teleporters
>no cybernetic body mods / enhancements
>no cure for cancer
>no medical nanobots
>no sentient AI


The future always ends up being an underwhelming, watered down disappointment compared to what people think "the future" will be like.

>>33295512
>Even autogated tubes aren't immune to damage.

Damage control. Perhaps you should autogate your posts?

>>33295763
I appreciate your wordsmithing, but I'm still correct.

>>33295727
>>no cloaking technology

http://canadafreepress.com/article/vindicated-talk-show-radios-true-patriot-tom-bauerle

>>33295785
give me the TL;DR

>>33295784
>I appreciate your wordsmithing, but I'm still correct.

No. Nothing about this statement is correct.

>Enjoy your multi thousand dollar piece of hardware be ruined in a split second by some chucklefuck with a flashlight.

Search lights or perhaps a car headlight? maybe. Turning on during the day? Sure.

No matter how much chucklefuckery is involved you're not going to hurt them with a flashlight.

>>33295825

>cloaking technology

>>33295826
500+ lumen LED flashlights are pretty common nowadays.

>>33295826
>something as weak as a headlight can straight up break a piece of equipment as expensive as a used Mercedes

>god dammit Krillin

>>33295826
See
>>33295866

>>33296035
with what? brokeass equipment?

>>33296209
only if you cut corners and don't get an autogated model.

>>33289605
From my experience, Thermals eat batteries like a single mom eats dick (a lot and fast) while NODs run on the same batteries like that sex toy you bought for your exwife that now sits unused in the bottom drawer.

>>33291053
PVS-14s just take AA batteries. I've never had them run out on me in the field

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>>33295727
>The future always ends up being an underwhelming, watered down disappointment compared to what people think "the future" will be like.
sometimes it still manages to be dope as fuck. Keep in mind that we're posting on a non-physical forum that allows you to tell somebody thousands of miles away that you fucked his mum. This shit was almost beyond imagination for most people 50 years ago, and yet here we are.

>>33292127
Kek, you're a retired pog with zero experience actually using any of your shit outside of your back yard.

>>33289922
Also thermals can't see through glass, which means that they're useless to pilots.

>>33300363
Also maybe cyberwaifus in the next 5 years, so that's a plus.

I want cyberware, nervework and neurojacks from Neuromancer, and juicer tech like RIFTS.

I cant help but want to be a street samurai from shadowrun or something.

>>33290511
Mannequin, dude.

>>33297264
you seem to know a lot about battery consumption (or the lack thereof).

>>33295826
Lights can damage NVGs? Even ones with autogating (automatic adjustments right?)

>>33301716
Autogated tubes won't be damaged, just ones that aren't. And really searchlights or car headlights are nothing like sunlight which still doesn't kill tubes immediately.

>>33292337
I am prob going to blow $200 on that dang FLIR one for android...

>>33301786
It's trash

>>33300363
you can even call them a faggot from the other side of the world, the wonders of science never cease

>>33300520
there is already a robot brothel in italy so why not

>>33291239
Wtf? My shitty Gen 1.5 $150 bushnell monocular is slightly better than that at half moon.

>>33295841
Sweet.

>>33290119

Who makes psv-14s for $500 that aren't shit. Serious question.

>>33290511
He was covered in car doors, dude

>>33302353
>buy PVS-14 kit for ~$500
>buy blem image intensifier for ~$500
>assemble
>done

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTwvNjY8210