So I made a thread yesterday about getting a Ruger LCR .38 as

This is going to be a home defense/CC/range gun too. I've read its bad to leave a magazine loaded for a long time, fucks with the springs.

>>33281646
>So I'm looking for a gun thats comfortable at the range and effective for CC (I want it to fit in a coat pocket).
No, dipshit, you cannot violate the laws of physics.

>suitable for self-defense
>small size
>light weight
>comfortable to shoot
pick three

>>33281677
No need for being a cock.

>>33281687
You're asking a trite question, there is every need.
>>33281673
No, that's bullshit. There is no harm in leaving magazines loaded unless you're leaving them inside the crank case oil pan.

>>33281687
You brought it on yourself home slice.

>>33281710
Don't got a lot of money so I want a good all purpose small gun.

>>33281646
OP you need multiple-different-not-one guns.

>>33281725
The fact that you can't afford two guns doesn't change the fact that good carry guns aren't comfortable to shoot.

You really thing you're going to take two guns, one with half the weight and one third the grip length, and shoot them equally?
Hint: nope

Maybe I should rephrase this. The LCR .38 is powerful but shitty to shoot at the range. The Tomcat .32 isn't as strong but good to shoot at the range. Is the difference in power for CC really that different?

>>33281725
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/628860439

>>33281762
Yeah I'd get more firepower over comfort.

I have a Sig p938 which sucks major wieners to shoot, but has enough power for its size I feel ok carrying it every day. I'm skinny and /fa/ so I need something slim to Edc, and when you don't have a lot of capacity, power is the best way to make up the difference.

>>33281762
so get a single stack 9

>>33281762
Yes, there is a goddamned difference between a .36 caliber 158gr projectile at 800fps and a .31 caliber 60gr projectile at 1000fps.
>>33281788
If he can't afford an LCP and a TP9SA then he can't afford a P938.

>>33281799
I wasn't advocating he get a p938 numbnuts. I was merely correlating the preference for power when choosing a sub comp pistol for EDC

>>33281785
I've been thinking of the LCP's...I just like the look of older guns. Ive been thinking about a PPK or a Sig p238. New guns look like toys to me

>>33281799
Its not that I can't afford the gun, Its that I can't afford to buy a bunch of guns

>>33281806
>>33281677

>suitable for self-defense
>small size
>light weight
>comfortable to shoot
>fashionable

christ

>>33281806
That's the LC9s Pro not the LCP. 9mm instead of .380. Fuck a PPK it's outdated as fuck as a carry gun. It's heavy as shit and not fun to shoot in .380.

>>33281762
>The Tomcat .32 isn't as strong but good to shoot at the range.
Shooting a nub that's barely larger than your hand isn't fun at the range either. I don't even think they make the tomcat anymore.

.32 couldn't kill a geriatric AIDS patient on life support. A .32 will strictly be for scaring someone away with pain (or the threat of it) unless they're hit in the head or spine.

You were talking about getting a PPK and a SIG, guns that are several hundred dollars. you can probably afford a pocket blaster and a range toy.

if you're that set on a single one, get one of the slightly larger 380s or a sub 9mm. they won't be as comfortable to carry.

>>33281806
Jesus Christ, do you want something useful or do you want something ~aesthetic~?
PPK 380 is garbage
P238 is way too heavy for a 380
>suitable for self-defense
>small size
>light weight
>comfortable to shoot
>aesthetic
pick three

>>33281819
I didn't say lightweight. I don't care how heavy it is

>>33281806
1st rule of carrying a gun aesthetics don't mean shit. You sound like a typical noguns fag who wants something "cool" which you will never really shoot or carry. If that's the case stop asking what to get because it doesn't fucking matter what meme gun sits in your closet.

>>33281822
>you can probably afford a pocket blaster and a range toy.

Practice how you play nigga

>>33281762
yes, the difference is considerable.
From a 4 inch barrel (which you won't have), 32 acp can reach a "blistering" 177 ft/lbs of force. A 38 special +P can get to 351+ ft/lbs with the same barrel length, which again you won't have. Roughly double the power.
However, power does not make up for shot placement.

>>33281829
>I don't care how heavy it is
then just get a damn makarov

>>33281832
Well I love in Chicago so it will be hard to shoot a lot. Sorry I want to buy something that I like the look of. Thats usually a deciding factor in every purchase a human makes, fuckhead.

>>33281829
for coat pocket you probably will

>>33281841
Haha, was about to ask if that was a good idea. Been looking at Makarov's too

>>33281646
>>33281806
For all the shit I give it, a P320 will kinda do this. SIG fucked up with the P250 but making the subcompact a little too big - it's barely smaller than the G19.
With that said, you can buy a P320 Carry or Compact and throw on a Subcompact-Small grip when you leave the range. Really, though, you need to shoot your carry gun as you carry it.
>>33281849
>I live in Chicago
Then how the fuck are you going to carry it without a CCW? You can't even own guns in Illinois without an FOID.

>>33281857
>>33281841
>heel release subhumans

>>33281858
Yeah I know. Gotta do all the CCW classes and whatnot.

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>>33281849
>how it looks is a deciding factor in every purchase

It is if you have a vagina. Do you have a vagina?

>>33281872
have you seen the stupid gear queer and ar/ak generals?

>>33281872
Why don't you just wear rubber fishing pants everyday for the rest of your life. Theyre durable, waterproof, utilitarian. If you don't care about how they look, why do you care?

>>33281849
>Sorry I want to buy something that I like the look of. Thats usually a deciding factor in every purchase a human makes, fuckhead.
No, you're literally not allowed to consider aesthetics for a killing machine.
Well you are, but anyone who does deserves to have it fail them when they need it.
Form must follow function in absolute. Having something you find aesthetically pleasing is okay, but only when there is literally zero more functional options.

Basically, if you don't buy a polymer-framed wonder nine you're doing it wrong.

>>33281897
Would the Ruger LCR 9mm suffice.

>>33281897
t. Hi-Point sales rep

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>>33281883
Yeah bunch of queers(it's even in the name) who have closets full of shit they will never use.

It's fine to get what ever meme gun gets your boipucci wet, just don't come in here asking for opinions on what would actually be a functional piece because you obviously don't give a fuck about what actually matters in the practical application of carrying competently every day.

>>33281849
>>33281894
A gun is not a toy. You never see it unless you're shooting it because at all other times it's in its holster. You don't unholster at night, you put it away in its holster. You don't show it off, you don't play with it.
>>33281903
no revolvers, full stop
less reliable, shit tier reloading, shit tier triggers

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>>33281894
I live in Alabama I'd sweat myself into an early grave. See you can't even choose a fucking good overall pair of pants as an example. How the fuck do you even get out of bed in the morning?

>>33281920
Fuck you're cool.

>>33281903
the LCR 9mm is picky about the bullets you put in it. uncrimped bullets will work their way out of the casing due to recoil

>>33281646
>Would a Beretta Tomcat be a good choice?

if you are ok buying used

very few dealers sell these

have to poke around internet broker websites buying from ??

get a RUGER LCP 2 or LC380

>>33281822
>32 couldn't kill a geriatric AIDS patient on life support. A .32 will strictly be for scaring someone away with pain (or the threat of it) unless they're hit in the head or spine.

Hey, retard, the .32 ACP has been used by the military and police since 1899, and it has been effective

>>33282043
So...Would you reccomend the Tomcat?

>>33281687
Welcome to /k/ now git

>>33281646
Just get an LCP 2

>>33281822
You know how I know you are no-guns?

It's the fact that you don't know that there is zero difference in lethality between handgun cartridges.

>>33282425
Yeah .22lr and .454 Casul are equal. That's why I tell everyone to carry a Jennings .22 for bear hunts in Alaska. Why should you pay more for a heavy ass gun?

>>33281646
Just get the exposed hammer version of the LCR.

>>33282101

The Tomcat is a poor design for the caliber. The frames have a habit of cracking.

>>33282451
I hear that the army chambers M60s in 22LR now. Same lethality!

>>33282499
Why? So it can snag on his coat pocket?

LCR DAO triggers are quite nice.

>>33282583
I wish I had gotten in on the contract to design the disintegrating links for the .22lr. Those guys are set for life.

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Accept no substitutes OP. The best was already made a century ago by an enlightened man.

>>33282591
Thats what I've heard. Done a bunch of research and watched a lot of videos (of course Hickock45 here) and everyone says that the trigger is awesome and that the .38 isn't too bad with the rubber grip

>>33282579
Only the first gens, they fixed this.

If you buy a gun for no other reason than to just "carry" it, and you have no firearm experience and no reason to expect a deadly assault, you are a complete fool, and I would predict that things will end badly and you will find yourself in a difficult legal position.

Go to a gun range that rents firearms and has classes for first time shooters and CC permits. Before you rent a gun or sign up for a class, buy some safety glasses and hearing protection (go to the Dollar store for earplugs and glasses if your're a poorfag) and watch the shooters: you'll be able to spot and differentiate the knowledgeable from the unsafe tards within an hour. There's usually benches or tables where shooters are cleaning their gear, some, if not most will be happy to talk about weapons and safety. Make a friend or two.

Rent different guns, even something that you might not have considered before. What you want is something that feels right and points naturally for you.

The odds of getting into a protracted gunfight as a civilian are about zero. Learn firearm safety first, laws on CC second, then worry about accuracy.

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>>33281646
>will fit in coat pocket
>is comfy af for range
>has 9mm kurz (9mm kurz > .32)

>>33286803
>(9mm kurz > .32)

No, you are a fucktarded idiot. 9mm kurz is a 9mm SHORT. .32 is 7.62mm. Dipshit.

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>>33286880
uhm... I agree?

>>33286880
Are you pretending to be retarded or do you actually think 32 is more powerful than 380?

>>33287173
Pretty sure hes just unironically picking at the fact that I called it 9mm kurz

>>33286778
Whats with all the assuming I'm just a dude who's just guying a gun without doing any training or anything. In order to CC in Chicago you gotta do a 12 hour course and obviously I'd go to the range whenever possible. I just don't think theres anything wrong with buying a gun that you also think is aesthetically pleasing.

Yeah, I don't have a backyard range for piss sake. I appreciate the response though.

>>33281646
Im biased because I carry an airweight, but a steel j frame is going to be p comfy to shoot with 38s and will carry pretty nice. Also dat ability to shoot multiple rounds from the pocket so it never even has to leave the coat

>>33289019
any specific model you'd recommend?

>>33281838
"ft/lbs" of "force," roughly double the "power".

Look who didn't pay attention in high school.