Why would a moderately popular up and coming youtube channel

>>33280979
>lambasts fanboys
>proceeds to fanboy ARs
whatever. i stopped seriously caring about YT guys a long time ago. just enjoy them for entertainment

>>33280979
Already outed yourself as a C39V1 owner, may as well just kill your self

>>33280979
>cheap to produce
>AK
>In the 40s in Russia
I thought it was actually reverse. That the AK was expensive in the 40s and only got cheaper to produce in the 50s with the AKM.

>>33280979
>AK's have to dress like ARs to stay relevant
He's right. AK's have been obsolete for quite a while.

>>33281063
>AK's have to dress like ARs to stay relevant

>AK's have to dress like ARs to appeal to tacticool operators

FTFY

The AK has a simpler design while functioning flawlessly and firing a larger cartridge. Everyone who's anyone knows the shift to 5.56 and 5.45 was to save cost and because it's a guerrilla round. I'd just as soon have knockdown power myself

>>33281088
KEK! this is fucking hilarious when read in Elmer Fudd's voice.

>>33281135
>I can't argue against any of that, better throw out some insults

>>33280979
He's right tho...

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>>33281088

>>33281057
He's an idiot, anon...

>>33280979
>The complexity of AK construction is why you can get these AR's for cheap

CORRELATION DOES NOT EQUAL CAUSATION IN THIS CASE REEEE.

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>>33281160
>5.45
>guerrilla round
>made to wound
>bigger bullet=more kill
Whatever you say, fudd

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>>33280979
>muh rails
>muh 5.56
pic related

Also does this goy understand what economy of scale is?

As for your question OP, drama is what drives Yewtube.

>>33281088
Look i know this is probably bait, but go ahead and show us exactly how the AR is more complex than rifle around 20 years it's senior.

>>33281606
What caliber pistol would you carry for self defense?

>>33282064
>look mum I'm trolling
t.not him

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>>33282108
>I don't want to admit that I wouldn't carry a .22 pistol for self defense, better insult this guy

>>33282180
see>>33282108

>>33280979
The 9001 import bans are why AK's are too expensive.
The labor vs machining argument is very different between some American boutique and Chinese factory, but no norinco for you citizen.

>>33282224
see
>>33282180

>>33282258
see>>33282258;>>33282108

>>33282276
see
>>33282258

>>33282180
Find me a .22 that does as much damage as a .223 rifle round and you bet your ass I'd carry it everywhere I went.

>>33282285
see>>33282285

>>33282290
why do you even reply to this lame b8er

AK a shit. Something isn't automatically good just because you can make one out of a rusty shovel.

AR > AK any day.

>>33282290
>as much damage as a .223 rifle

A .223 is just a much faster .22, that means more penetration, that means less damage

>>33282318

Why, because it doesn't bounce around inside the target?

>>33282349
Because it leaves the body while still having plenty of energy. That's energy that didn't go into the target. Even .223 hollowpoints can't expand fast enough to transfer a significant amount of energy into the target

>>33282376
Fragmenting rounds, my man

>all these AR fanboys
>every AR owner I know has had some issue out of the box
>usually with shitty direct impingement design that they have to get tweaked
>take my AK to shoot with them
>always has and always will work flawlessly
The only reason AR fans shit on the AK all the time is because projecting insecurities is an easy way to cope.
The fact that piston ARs even exist is proof enough for me that the AR isn't a particularly good design

>>33282432
And a larger round will still transfer more energy with the same round

People don't carry .22s for SD when they can have a .40

People don't keep a .410 next to their bed for HD when they can have a 12 gauge

Funny how tacticool operators understand this principle all the way until it gets to their ARs

>>33282477

Well, 223 does quite well against armor and light-medium cover with 77 grain OTM bullets and has good terminal ballistics, and with fragmenting rounds you get terrific terminal ballistics with decent light cover penetration. It's so soft shooting, that it definitely has it's uses. I think you are just being a bit silly.

>>33281088
>Knockdown power
I wish you would've put this much earlier in your post so I could've stopped reading.

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>>33282180
>You wouldn't carry a .22 pistol to defe-

I'd agree the AR is better than the AK but the AK is far from obsolete

>>33282376
>Being this fucking retarded
https://m.liveleak.com/view?i=c1b_1410227991

>>33280979

Because a very large segment of AR owners are incredibly insecure about the rifle they invested their ego in, and feel the need to shit on everything else so they can feel better.

>>33283015

>shot in the face
>still alive with zero medical assistance

wow 5.56 so lethal

>>33282982
that buffercuck

>>33282064
Shot placement

>>33283234
People regurgitate 'shot placement' as if they're going to magically become the greatest shot in the world if they have a 9mm and turn into Barney Fyffe if they have a .45

>>33283318
More like they regurgitate shot placement because it is the only thing that matters?

at least we're all in agreement that AK is the most fightingest gun

>>33280979
desu the only channel I really enjoy watching is the Ammo Channel. and I'm pretty sure he got ATF'd like a year ago because he hasn't posted any new videos

>>33282982
>images.duckduckgo.com

Mah duckduck nigga

How is the AK obsolete

The Kar98k is obsolete, the AK is not

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>>33283772
>The Kar98k is obsolete, the AK is not

How is the K98 obsolete if it can still help you get dinner?

>>33283070
"""alive"""

Since at least the 1960's to this very day, every armed conflict on the planet saw at least one side, if not both, armed with AK variants.

If that's obsolete, so is shoes, beer, and women.

>>33283375
I don't think you read or understood my reply

If shot placement is the most important thing, then it may as well be a shot with a .40 instead of a 9mm

>>33283772
How is the kar98 obsolete? Literally almost every bolt action since has copied the Mauser action.

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>>33281063
>tfw dressing AK like an AR

>>33283864
Mausers are obsolete for standard issue infantry rifle
other roles (hunting rifle), it's not obsolete

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>>33280979
Holy shit the comments are comedy gold
>literally the only gun channel these days who fairly judge guns, including an ar 15 (dd fags btfo btw, bcm wins yet again)
>they're a russian propaganda
>poorfag on the bottom who probably never touched an arsenal in his life claiming wasr is better
This is just like my dank memes

>>33283772
must be hard living with downs, huh?

>>33280979
whats scary is theres a lot of people who will believe this.

>>33288425
>WASR better than an arsenal

Gonna need a jumbo meme arrow for that one

>>33281088
You should be castrated for saying "knockdown power."

>>33290113
NOU

>>33280979
>Saying any of those $500 ARs are indestructible and equivalent to an AK

Ask me how I know somebody has never used a rifle nowhere but on a range?

Seriously, just because every tom dick and harry machinist with a manufacture license has to turn out his own line of trash ARs doesnt mean they are worth anything.

Our local sheriff got a big hard on for el cheapo ARs and started buying his officers these rattle-trap conglomerations of polymer and aluminum.

They come out of the box brand new and feeling all loose and rattling like an AR thats already had tenthousand rounds put through them. They cant hold groups, and have all sorts of fuckin problems with common ammo varieties. They jam if you even fart too loudly near one.

Just utter trash. Maybe theres some magic bubbas gun emporium selling decent $500 ARs somewhere. If so hes doing it at a loss and I havent found him yet.

These rattle trap ratty ARs are usually built to look cool on the outside, be utter shit inside, and are pureley for people who want a scary black rifle but dont plan on shooting it much or care particularly about accuracy beyond 100 yards.

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>>33281088
>it's a guerrilla round
>I'd just as soon have knockdown power myself
it's monday I cant deal with this autism right now

>>33291516
>.22

>For anything more than plinking

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>>33280979

>Why would a moderately popular up and coming youtube channel purposely post a provocative youtube video on an anonymous thai massage board?

>>33280979
All of this is pure fact. You can still like the AK for whatever reason, that's your right, but you've got to be honest and admit that AR's are both superior and now cheaper to produce, and that indeed have to do with automation as well as the huge American market and harsh competition between companies driving down the prices.

I think ARs are dildoes because the good ones don't take folding stocks even the folding stock ones can't be fired folded. That's petty much it.
The fact that cleaning an AK before 10k rounds is optional is just a bonus.

>>33291665
If you bothered to finish fuddlore 101 youd know that .22 zig zags and back flips all over a persons body once you shoot them seeking out internal organs and arteries to perforate.

But in all seriousness, lack of cheap .22 over the last decade has actually been argued to have caused an entire generation of new shooters to be lost, and had extremley detrimental effects on youth marksmanship.

There really isnt any other caliber people can afford to take junior out with and toss 500 rounds downrange twice a month.

Its not a tactical round, or good for much besides pest removal and plinking, but when its not available it means lots of kids arent going shooting.

>>33280979

Not really correct to say that AKs are more manual labor intensive. There is nothing inherently more labor intensive about one over the other- both are manufactured on industrial equipment that can be easily automated, and both require assembly by hand.

The price of ARs is not indicative of them being "less labor intensive", but rather their price is set by the fact that they've just been manufactured here for so long that the initial investment in industrial machinery has been paid off. AK pricing is instead determined by the availability of parts kits. We're only just reaching a point where the cost of building an AK off imported parts is more expensive to the producer than the cost of establishing a factory to manufacture these parts. There was never a "parts kit" economy propping up the AR economy.

In fact it is probably more accurate to say that the AK is less labor intensive, in the sense that it's well-suited to very large scale production, having a stamped receiver. The AR is more suited to decentralized civilian production, since CNC machinery is currently more accessible to entrepreneurs than sheet metal stamping.

What this also means is that the AK isn't a perfect design for the civilian economy here in the US. A 100% US-manufactured AK, built to give the best performance for value would probably be an amalgamation of AK and AKM features- milled receiver but otherwise AKM parts- it would probably have a lot of other features that people expect, like integrated picatinny rail etc- ultimately resembling the AK-12 in many ways. It bears mentioning that AK consumers aren't really ideal, either, since they seem to split more heavily between "modernized", and "classic" builds.

Of course anyone familiar with how guns are actually made would discount someone saying that AKs aren't made by expensive machines in large factories as fundamentally ignorant, but whatever.

>>33280979
Because he is right.

No AKM is worth over $500, and if angry beavers at Century can't even put a Kalashnikov together correctly.... what's the point

>>33292362
>Cheaper to produce
Please show me the evidence?
Cheaper to buy here in the USA does NOT equal "cheaper to produce", it means import restrictions and bullshit drive up the cost on imported guns. The large industry making AKs is outside the US. Ergo, AKs cost more here.

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>>33283015
>>33283070
that was 7.62 nato from FALs of the military police in Brazil

>>33292958
Even in Europe a Zastava or Arsenal AK costs more than a budget AR (over 1k€). That's just how it is.

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>>33293055
>a good AK costs more than a garbage AR
In other news rotten apples are cheaper than fresh oranges.

>>33293087
Garbage tier AKs cost the same as garbage tier ARs. Top shelf AKs cost the same as top shelf ARs.

The AR AK debate is quite literally apples vs oranges. At this point its just a cheap clickbait tactic to generate views on your gunchannel by getting viewers to flood the comment section arguing about their personal taste.

>>33293087
Why would even consider any AK when you can buy an AR for the same price? Other than personal taste I mean? There is litterally not a single objective argument to do so.
Furthermore, the quality of an AK produced by eastern retards for a shit wage with some milled steel cannot be compared to an AR made by Americans on a CNC machine, even the lower budget AR is still miles ahead anything made in eastern Europe.

>>33293198

muh reliability and stoppan powa

>>33288425
He must be mad that the IO failed in ak operator unions test.