Roland Special

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>>33278340
stop advertising here

not advertising just thinking about building one.

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>>33278340

You can build something just as good for a lot cheaper.

I mean I'm not going to do a true one to one atei roland but I'm going to hit all the main bases RMR X300u and what not. Probably going to go with a TBRCI Micro comp on a match grade barrel because those KKM barrels/comp combos are turning into unicorns

>>33278534
>doesn't even know how to reply to posts
You're advertising, this exact thread verbatim with exact photo has been posted over and over again. Please don't come back.

>>33278340
The pinnacle of customizing a Glock 19.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IaZfS4Mj4o

Now, que the nerds scared of being labeled a mallninja that badmouth them.

By Roland special you mean ND special? Cool Gun , own two. Check the backstory and the shit dude just got into.

I swear I've never posted this thread before just googled Roland Special and that was the first photo that came up.

I saw that shitstorm. Roland got drunk and ND'd a round into his brother in laws leg.

Industry tried to hide everything. Thanks P&S

>>33278623
He didn't even lose his sponsorship with BE. Meyers.

But I love the guns concept.

>>33278615
Got a link to the story, I could use a laugh before bed

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>>33278615
>>33278623
>>33278652
>Roland ND's into someone else
>all those fucking good P&S modcasts with any mention of Roland is now deleted

Mad as hell.

>>33278664

http://registerguard.com/rg/news/local/35292810-75/story.csp

>>33278713
Holy Shit, he lives like 5 minutes from me.

>>33279360
hey fellow eugenefag

nice day for some shooting tomorrow

>>33278340
gay

>>33278340
What makes it so special?

>>33278713
What a dumbass.

>>33278340
It's a glock with a cop and rmr on it

Pretty cool gun, sent my slide in just for the rmr mill and to have the sights in front of the rmr.

>>33278340
It's neat but are you going to conceal carry it?

>>33280259
It may hop into my rotation.

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>>33278340
Fun to use.
Only put it together because i saw and bought a glock 19 frame on impulse at a pawn shop for $150

>>33278552
>dat 100% velvety grip

>>33278552
>Burris
>Just as good as an RMR

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It's fucking stupid.

Buy a bigger gun if you want to spend money making a open division race gun.

>>33280736
It's the poverty special for a reason

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>>33280736
Defeats the purpose. The Roland is supposed to be an enhanced Glock 19. It's still small enough to CC, and you can still fit it in a retention holster if you're going to use it as a duty type gun. A race gun is just too big for those types of things.

>>33281686
Nothing about the Rowland OR the Glock 19 is concealable.

It's a stupid fucking concept put together by man-children.

This board should have fitness requirements to be able to post. ANYONE who claims they can CC a medium sized pistol, is an obese faggot.

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>>33281776
>Glock 19 not concealable

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>>33281776
Yeah ok.

>>33278615
It's still pretty impressive that he was able to get his blood alcohol up to 25% and still operate a firearm.
I mean, having a quarter of your blood replaced with ethanol? Most people couldn't even survive that.

>>33281776
>Glock 19 not concealable
>Anyone who claims to cc a medium sized pistol is an obese faggot
Are you an 80lbs girl or something that you can conceal a 4" pistol? I'm 5'10" 165lbs and I carry a Glock 17 and it conceals just fine.

>>33281796
whoa somebody saved muh picture neat

>>33281796
tbqh even with a holster and supreme trigger discipline, I would not keep a glock there

>>33281837
don't bother replying to nuguns

I hate stippling so fucking much.

>>33281776

Glock 19 is easy to conceal if you're not a small ass female, or a tight jeans wearing hipster faggot. I feel like you don't even carry.

>>33281796
Nice posed pic.

Now sit down for 2 hours. Bend over and tie your shoes. Reach for something on a high shelf like the Manlet you are.

>>33281837
No you don't.

>>33278340
glocks must remain pure, not stipled roastied

a compensator on a 9mm is dumb
Id rather it be shorter and easier to appendix carry, or have that length be barrel for extra velocity.

front slide serrations are fine, top slide serrations are silly

Id use a smaller light like the xc1 or the inforce light for carry.

I understand and like the concept of increasing the functionality of the handgun, but it's not for me

>>33281945
I mean I've got a few stock glocks.

You can only have so much fun with a "pure" glock

>>33282007
Comp and 300u are for flatter and faster shooting

>>33278340
It's for those guys who always say "I carry a .45 cuz dey dun make a .46!!"

>comp'd 9mms are dumb

I bet you've never shot one

>>33280684
From someone whos owned both, they worked equally well for me.

>>33282146
Wrong Roland there friendo

the roland special is supposed to be a carry duty gun. It's a revival of the offensive handgun

>>33282109
>the light is for flatter and faster shooting
fucking wrong. Target acquisition when it's dark outside.

>>33282146
but the 19 is a 9mm

>>33282150
yeah it shoots flatter. 9mm already shoots pretty fucking flat. but it's a question of trade offs. you're taking your glock 19 and making it as long as a 34. is that worth while?

>>33281850
I try not to, but sometimes they say the dumbest shit.
>>33281937
Ya huh I do.

>>33282250
Length of the barrel isn't really a huge difference when you have an x300u, there's no light I find comparable. And besides the threaded barrel gives you the velocity similar to a 17.

The major thing is the 19 grip that makes it concealable.

I swear to god people have written so much stupid fucking shit in this thread it is unbearable to read

You are fat if you carry a 19. And you are a dork if you carry anything other than a 32.

>>33279360
Good thing he didn't hit your house then.

Just buy a H&K USP9E, retards. No amount of lipstick will fix that pig.

>>33282792
>USP9E
You mean C, for compact, retard.

>>33282830
No I mean E for Expert, because I'm not a woman or manlet.

>>33282870
How are you.

>>33281776
Oh so you've never CC'd at all. That explains it

The gun is fucking retarded, but you two run a close race

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>Turn carry G19 into racy G34
> It's a great carry gun guyz. I mean comps have a place on carry guns
> Not carrying a G26/G43 and TLR-6 combo instead becuz fat gear queer.

>>33281796
How do you wear a gun with the side jammed into your nuts and dick? I've tried to carry this way and sitting is miserable.

>>33283996
>not owning both

Found the poorfag

>>33281826
It was 2.5%
You're missing a decimal

>>33284204
Considering that you're legally drunk at 0.08%, still pretty impressive.

>>33278340
I kind of want to make one out of a Sig P320. . .

>>33281929
>>33281843
>>33282587
Pull up your goddamned pants and it's not a problem.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVnSFIBGkkQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmyYbyn1NPA

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>>33284754
It's pretty great

>>33285794
They have Sig's in Australia?

>>33285794
The gun functions normally with that underbite?

>>33283996
A G43 with an RMR, suppressor sights, TLR-6, and a comp would be a pretty boss deep carry gun.

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>>33281776
>Nothing about the Rowland OR the Glock 19 is concealable.

I was gonna point out the fact that you said the Roland Special is impossible to conceal but then you actually mentioned the fucking Glock 19 itself.

You dont call people manchildren for being able to conceal one when you're a manlet that can't conceal the fucking base model lmao

Just let this sink into your manlet brain. You cannot fathom concealing the smallest and most compact 15+1 9mm. L M A O. Seriously, you're a fucking manlet.

>>33279360
>>33279937
BROTHERS!

>>33282146
.460 rowland
Checkmate

>>33284204
Do you mean .25%? Because im positive no one could survive if over 1% of their blood was alcohol.

>>33288954
Tbrci makes a comp specifically for the g43 now

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>>33290753
I would still do the 19 for sheer capacity though, as it fills the budget efficient "one pistol to do it all" role better.

>>33291391
I'm saying one at the exclusion of the other.

>>33285015

I think he means the chances of something getting in the trigger guard on a pistol with no hammer or striker indicator aren't worth pointing one at your dick multiple times a day.

>>33278340
I like the compensator but everything else looks excessive

>>33291556
A weapon light is good, and a red dot sight makes aiming just that much easier under stress.
A red dot also eliminates the need for a longer sight radius

>>33281826
>>33284204

these 2 fucking retards.

back to grade maths with you.

>>33291583
I mean, ok? But wouldn't all those accessories get caught on loose clothing during the draw and really, I can't really imagine why you shouldn't just be competent with iron sights

>>33291680
Compensator and surefire are on the wrong side to snag. The red dot could, but keeping clothes clear on the draw is a job for the offhand, and can be practiced beforehand.

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>>33291680
You ever fired a handgun with a red dot? It'll spoil you. You'll shoot faster, more accurately and with both eyes open while focusing on the target instead of your front sight.

Pic related, my baby

>>33289205
Now I want a Rowland Roland.

>>33282419
Even if it weren't for the hole in the top where the non existent gas escapes, the velocity difference between the two makes less than zero difference

>>33278713
>New Mexico

Everything in the news about my state is embarrassing

>cop mag dumps on fleeing mom's van with 4 kids in the car
>cop shoots another cop 11 times point blank in a drug bust
>cops mag dump with ARs on a bumb in the hills because lol reasons
>cops shoot at fleeing suspect, suspect blind fires return fire and head shots cops

Jesus christ NM get it together

Retarded.
Unless you use an xc1 and no brake anyway.

>>33291583
>red dot sight makes aiming just that much easier under stress.
A red dot also eliminates the need for a longer sight radius
Eh, more true of red dots on frame mounts than slide mounts. Great crutch for new shooters and folks with shitty eyes, but a FO front is still better

>>33291818
Do you not shoot with both eyes open otherwise

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>>33292070
There are worse places

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>>33278340
>reciprocating optic
>brake on 9mm
>full size light
>compact

Glock 17s kill people just fine without this extra bullshit.

P&S shill begone.

>>33281686
It damn sure isnt actually concealable once you add the flared magwell, 1.5" compensator, and +3 mag extension. It's physically larger in all dimensions than a G17 and just a cunthair shorter than a G34.

And any Glock based racegun will fit a retention holster as long as you use a slide mounted optic and not a frame mount.

>>33282109
Having both together is dumb af, especially since the true Roland comp is top vented
>light so you can shoot in the dark
>fuckhuge top vented comp on a short barreled, relatively low pressure round so you neither get a significant benefit from the comp nor are able to see shit after the first shot in low light

>>33282419
>the major thing is the 19 grip
Except you put a big fucking flared magwell on it then use mags with a +3 or +4 extension so they're longer than g17 mags and the whole thing is fatter in the most easily recognized and most likely to print part.

>>33292344
The muzzle flash is quite a bit dimmer than the x300 spill

>>33292386
Having shot a side-opening-only compensated G17 with an X300U on it, thats bullshit.

>>33292344

One of the Roland Special's greatest perks is its performance under NODS LOL.

I was a big hater of the Roland Special until I actually saw one in person and shot a few. After that... I was fucking hooked.

Main thing though: learning to shoot with RDS takes a fairly extreme investment in skill. You basically need to be an A-class level USPSA shooter to do it easily.

Even "Jedi Master" Ken Hackathorn had to take 1000 rounds and weeks to transition from to Iron to Red Dot.

The world's best pistol shooter discusses the challenges of the transition and how to overcome it. Cliff Notes: become better.

http://www.recoilweb.com/recoiltv-training-tuneups-rob-leatham-discusses-sight-transitioning-126238.html

>>33281776

LOL. I'm 6'2", and 200 pounds. Maybe my 5'4" girlfriend can conceal it, but any man of decent fighting capability can conceal carry.

You, good sir, are clearly a little man child

https://www.instagram.com/p/BREvPQNjp30/

>>33292106

Having a tiny window, so far away from your face actually makes shooting a red dot equipped pistol a lot harder, ironically.

For newbies, it also illustrates what the pistol is doing during a trigger pull. Makes em learn that much faster since with irons you have KNOW you pulled the trigger clean... the red dot will show you exactly how much you've failed.

Red dots aren't for everyone: the good ones are expensive (RMR and Delta Point are the only contenders... Shield from the UK possibly), and there is a ton of skill investment needed for them to pay off.

Gotta say though, if you do make the jump, it's fucking amazing. There's a reason only Open division allows electronic sights.

>>33292503
>using a dot is haaaaard
No it isn't.

>>33293006

It's easy if you feel no rush to align your (red dot) sights, but from 0-25 yards, irons are faster for a vast majority of people.

>>33293016
Nope

>>33292249
>5 yards
>that group
>nighthawk
Holy shit that's horrible

>>33281796
Now sit down.

>>33292621
J-point shits all over the deltapoint though, and if you have a frame mount the Aimpoint T2 or C-More are the best.

>>33293314

The newest Delta point with a the protective hood is the mini red dot perfected. I'm just hoping the next version sits lower, lol.

I'm guessing the j-point is actually a rebranded SHIELD sight

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>>33293692
I absolutely love the latest Deltapoint. I got the 7.5MOA one with the larger triangle and it's so damn refreshing after using irons for so long. What folks are saying about getting used to it is true, sighting is a whole nother ballgame when it comes to aiming and followup shots. Still really enjoying it so far.

>>33278743
anyone else notice asian women have immensely wide feet?

>>33285794
Neat

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>>33281776
>Nothing about the Rowland OR the Glock 19 is concealable.
>It's a stupid fucking concept put together by man-children.
>This board should have fitness requirements to be able to post. ANYONE who claims they can CC a medium sized pistol, is an obese faggot.


Glock 17 concealed AIWB by 5'9 male

>>33297250
Canceling the "shoot me first" value of multicam pants by pairing them with a plaid shirt that not only disrupts the outline of your gun but also makes you look like you're just a hipster douche wearing camo ironically is a genius move, props.

>>33297335
thanks, you should see my nikes. They really add a "Wait, is he just a gay" flavor to it.

>>33278340
I don't really like Glocks, so I don't know what I'd gain from having a tarted up glock

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>>33297438
So tart up a 1911

>>33297450
Needs to be a commander with a muzzle brake.

Slowly but surely I'm building a faux-land, it'll be interesting to see how much all of these upgrades help

>>33289267
I had to call an ambulance for a guy with a BAC of 3.5 last week.

Natives are like the x-men on alcoholics

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>>33297450
Not a big 1911 guy either. I prefer DA/SA wondernines
>just noticed nyancat and the spartan
for what purpose

>>33297930
So race out a fucking SP01 and git.

>>33297964
Not a bad idea, 2bh

>>33297930
So Rolandize a P229, you picky bastard.
I couldn't find any pics of such a thing, so I guarantee you'd be the first kid on your block to have one.

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>>33298017
pretty sexy, if I'm honest

>>33297992
I absolutely love the CZ75 and derivatives, especially for competition, it curb stomps the glock. I was just being an abrasive ass.

Although lately I have been fanboying the USP line way more.

>"both full-size and compact models of the USP use patented recoil reduction systems, enabling all USP series pistols to take the punishment of powerful +P and +P+ loads."

Seriously, what kind of mad man puts that in an official document?!

>>33298276
The kind of mad man who, in a world of compromise, doesn't.

LOL im not gonna lie, every time I've heard the Rowland special talked about i just kinda assumed it was meant to be chambered in the newish 9mm Rowland...

>>33298393
The extra gas volume would certainly help maximize the comp - you might be on to something.

>>33298344
No shit, I find it hilarious that the msnual basically says "They don't make ammo with the balls to damage our pistols, go fucking nuts" but on tge next page they say putting aftermarket flashlights on it will void the warranty if you manage to somehow damage the frame with them (to be fair, it only says that damage isn't covered, everything else still is)

Also, what does it say about Americans that this is what HK came up with as a pistol for us? They go out of their way to piint out it is made for the USA

>>33298478
IKR, comp, RDS, so many doo hickies that it looks more like a service or field gun. Made the connection and it stayed there. seems much more appealing to me than a 9mm version, and a much better stab at an OHS revival imo.

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>>33298518
To be fair, you basically have to either modify the frame or use an adapter to put an aftermarket light on a USP, and neither of those are use cases that HK could necessarily engineer themselves out of.

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>>33298518
Hell even better, the Mark23 is basically the only pistol I know out of the box that can shoot .45 super with no issue. Though yeah, getting a light attachment that isn't a LAM is annoying for having to buy a $120.00 rail adapter but I'll deal I guess.

>>33298478
People use 38 super in competition for this exact reason.

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>>33298643
I carry .45 super in my USP every day.

>>33298609
That modification is incredibly tempting, maybe when I build a full retard USP with an RDS cut slide and compensator.

>>33292249
At 5 yards the muzzle blast probably did more work for that group than anything. Does stevie wonder run that page?

>>33298643
>>33298609
This wouldn't be a problem if you could still fucking buy the UTL or LAM

>>33293058
Sweet argument. Now prove it

>>33298609
Ya know, I once asked of anyone had the measurements on the USP for just that reason. Son of a bitch, now I need a USP even more

>>33297422
Implying you're not a homo

>>33293155
Lol im not the only one thinkimg it. What is that 4 inches? Thats not great, enough to be proud of if your a shit shooter, but not good enough to be using as an example.

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>>33278340
Fitzgerald Special is superior Special.

>>33298727
Truf, I would have killed for the opportunity own a legit lam module at non-retardo prices. Nowadays when they pop up, they go for 1-2k.

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A lot of OG commandos got kind of butt hurt that the "Roland Special" was named after "Roland" because the concept had been around for a lonnnnng time.

Some people just have an axe to grind with the recently retired war hero.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/01/23/special-forces-pistol-standard-issue-beretta-m9-evolved/

>>33278340
Roland as in The Headless Thompson Gunner?

>>33300471
>Grip mounted pressure switch light
I can't find this for my USP45 and it is driving me up a fucking wall

>>33278552
Did you build that grip out of lava rock?

>>33300489

Grip mounted pressure light switches are great if you're doing assaults all the time.

The current SOP/solution of using just the mounted paddles is better IMHO. Allows you to be more selective with light discharge... in case you are being sneaky or under NODs.

The original Surefire "Delta Grip" is called that for a reason. Made sense for the median years of GWOT when it was hit after hit. Things have moved back into the shadows though.

>>33300490
>he doesn't have pumice grips

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>>33300471
>mercury filled guide rod

>>33300505
If I draw my gun I want absolute control over the light being on or off instantly without taking my finger off the trigger or changing my grip.

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>>33300471
>mercury-filled guide rod

You're gonna die.

>>33298067
now put that in a compact size or wait till the czp10c gets a roland special

>>33287711
Lol described it perfectly.

>>33298067
Couldn't you do this faggot shit to any gun then? Fuckin tart up a usp dawg. Sig p226 rowlands special part two. You could even do the usp compact 9mm to fit your particular brand of autism.

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>>33292249
>50 yards

Damn that's pretty fucking goo-

>wait, it's actually 5 yards, 50 rounds

-oh shit, is this nigga serious?

>>33293213
This. You aren't going to be sitting long with this shit and having to take my mags and holster off to piss? Nah. I'm not peeing out of a jagged ass zipper hole.

>>33281796
enjoy NDing when you get an erection

which you are likely to get with such a sexy gun strapped to your dick

>>33300471
There's nothing new under the sun.
There were probably Old West gunfighters who drilled holes in the ends of their barrels and mounted underbarrel candles or jars full of fireflies using twine or leather straps.

>>33278552
Where can I get that slide and rmr?do they come together or is the any custom milling involved? Sorry newb here

>>33301250
Hi-Point Roland Special when?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjQk244oW9c

>>33301331

Glad i'm not the only one that had this reaction

>>33303271

You have to either get your slide milled, or buy a new slide that has the holes. ZEV makes replacement slides, and Lone Wolf Distributors will do the milling, among others.