Ukraine to Switch From AK-74 to M16, Produce Their Own Rifles

>>33277988
its just to piss off Russia

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I thought they were going to go with that bullpup.

>>33277988
Arent they already using Domestically made Tavors in 5.45? Might see a resurgence in 5.45 ARs and Mags

>Ukraine gets shit pushed in by Russia

>"Oh yea well take this!"
>adopts garbage stick service rifle
>"that will show you!"

>>33278053
How? Russia makes both AR-15 and 5.56 ammo.

>>33278078
Considering IDF still use M4s and M-16s. The rumors of the Travor gassing users are probably true.
>>33278073
Isn't that in Rainbow six siege?

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>>33278128
>jew gun
>gassing jews

wtf i love the tavor now?

>>33277988
baby steps towards joining nato

>>33278094
because the AK is a symbol of Russia, theyre doing it to spite their influence

logistical nightmare for a shitheap country like ukraine to do

>>33277988
firstly
>Ukraine
>>>/x/
secondly they are to poor and stupid and will never go through

>>33277988
>Cheap Ukrainian made AR-15s in 7.62×39mm
I hope they ship with 10 bolts each.

practically the only way they can do this is to just get all the surplus m16 from the US as military Aid.

Ukrane deserves to get BEARED.

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>>33277988
None of those sources say anything about replacing the standard service rifle. All they say is that they are producing a AR-15/M-16 derivative. Ukraine makes new rifles, mostly for export all the time, nothing new there. Given the current state of Ukraine its extremely unlikely that any new rifle will see mass adoption, too many other things that require funding.

The last source had some stuff about trying to westernize but that is organizational, not equipment level. The difference between an M4 and a AK-74 is not going to decide a battle, much less a war.

>>33277988
they use 5.45 retard

>>33278053
It's because they'll probably try and join NATO soon or at least be offically aligned with it

>>33277988
Will the new rifle jiggle her boobs?

>entire forces trained and familiar with Kalashnikov platform
>adopt completely new platform

>>33278258
Cry more buttbroken commie

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makes great campfire for shishkabob

>>33279101
>you can never retrain people on a gun illiterate people have mastered

>>33277988
Like the Malyuk and Tavor, it probably won't take off in a significant way

>>33279101
Anon, newly enlisted people have zero knowledge of the rifle they're going to use without prior training.
Also, I bet civilian shooters can't shoot multiple types of gun accurately either ?

It's like firing a rifle is rocket surgery or some shit.

>>33279153
>shishkabob
more like shishkebab am i right?

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>>33279599
Yes you are absolutely right.

>>33279101
>They might actually hit something with a decent AR15 platform

Seriously though, teaching people how to use a basic service rifle doesn't take very long.

>Are we going to get <thing> because <something> happened?!
The answer is always "no", numbnuts.

>>33277988
>switch from ak to ar
>stay with 7.62x39
what retards, they deserve to be taken over by russia

>>33279996
this, i thought that TRUMP winning would mean ammo would be cheap but it's not.

>>33279599
*nuclear rocket surgery

Nothing wrong with the AR
That said, this is a complete waste of time and resources and it won't help them win their civil war.

didnt they buy a license to manufacture their own galils in 7.62?

For what purpose?

>>33278128
M4 and M16s are giving to rear line units and noncombatants like the Israel's Autism Intelligence group

>>33279926
That isn't a fake meme pic is it?

>>33279153
>Burns AR-15 for a propaganda piece
>More than half of them survived
You had one job Ivan.

>>33278073
At least that one doesn't have a retarded length of pull.

>>33278197
On the brighter side, they could learn some valuable lessons about military management and modernization.

>>33280670
http://www.trust.ua/news/92612-dobrovolcy-idut-v-nacgvardiyu-ukrainy-foto.html
Interesting the man in black is still doing a facepalm so it was really convincing.

>>33280670
It's real.

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>>33280761
No, we have all been tricked

>>33280776
Is that a girl?

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>>33277988

>Ukraine

>Legitimate state entity

Did you mean Eastern Poland and Lower Russia perhaps?

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>>33281002
This

Someone holodomor those hohols again please. Russia needs to reclaim their damn land already.

>>33279101
this isn't really that much of a problem.
problem is switching your entire manufacturing to build different gun during war. Gun that while good, isn't that much of a force multiplier.

>>33277988
This is retarded political decision. Not only it will fuck up logistics but also gonna cost a lot and won't change much.

Even if for some idiotic reason they wanted to standardize with NATO they should just buy licence for polish 5.56 AK, which would cut cost of retooling.

>>33277988
Fucking their logistics up in the middle of a civil war AND going with an inferior product. Those dipshits in Kiev need to be gassed.

>>33282171
>going with an inferior product
>inferior product
>inferior

AR-15 Laughter Intensifies

AK47 mud test: FAIL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DX73uXs3xGU

AR15 mud test: PASS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAneTFiz5WU

>>33282975
>>33282171
Inb4 the ak is still better than the ar sandy conditions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=synlZgnTnXg

Scroll to the comments section for glorious butthurt scarfags.

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>>33283211
"What a crock of shit, I can run my SCAR through my sand pits all day with no stoppages due to sand, its your shitty ass mag and you sabotaging the test by having the Gas block set to Suppressed. I have also tested my SCAR vs the 416 and AKs in grimy thick mud and guess what came out on top? The 16s."
Can someone explain this noguns here if this is true/makes sence? thanks!

>>33279980
Ukraine uses 5.45 AKs though, the accuracy on those is perfectly fine

>>33277988
You have zero idea how surplus works, huh

>>33278982
stoppages like that are caused by magazines.

would be nice to have a fresh influx of AK parts kits into the USA while Trump is president.

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>>33281002
>>33281191

Are you implying that Poland is actually legitimate state entity?

In reality Poland is Belgium tier non-state.

>>33283455
he actually has a point about the guy setting the gas to suppressed. The mag comment probably has no weight unless he was using a promag.