Hay do you remember Tehran’s homemade stealth fighter jet from about 4 years ago. Apparently the Qaher F-313 is now in its final production stage.
https://theaviationist.com/2017/03/07/qaher-f-313-tehrans-homemade-stealth-jet-in-final-production-stage-irans-defense-minister-claims/
>>33262732
Das it mane
>>33262732
How can the USA even counter this!
USA BTFO
The F-313 has been upgraded with stealth tech stolen from the RQ-170. The F-22 retirement just got accelerated by a few years.
>>33262732
the one made out of cardboard with the avionics from a hobby plane?
If I have to say something positive about it, it looks cool. Same with that f5/f18 thing they made.
That thing can reach Washington, level the entire city and come back to Iran without refueling.
>>33262732
Why is it that 90% of "5th generation stealth" meme planes are such shit?
>>33262762
>The F-22 retirement just got accelerated by a few years.
The F-313 just made the T-50 obsolete because S-ducts lmao
>>33262732
What the fuck is that thing sticking up at the front?
Is having forward visibility haram?
This thing is hilarious. Glad to see it made another appearance. Had it been an actual aircraft with even half of its stated capabilities, it would have looked cool.
My favorite part of the jet is how it has no room for a radar.
>>33262732
I like the illicit dumping of building materials around their high tech aviation R&D labs.
Really adds flare to the Third World shithole vibe the aircraft gives.
>>33262941
>What the fuck is that thing sticking up at the front?
you need to have somewhere to put the satnav display.
I can already hear it trundling down the runway at 25mph, throttles wide open, while the satnav says "at the end of this road, turn left"
>>33262980
heh
>>33262941
Its like they tired to rip off the X-36, but really, really badly
>lol some one drew faces on the X-36 fake canopy
>>33262980
>Goes into a ditch because pilot cannot see ahead and because it's like a fucking tail-dragger plane from the 40s
>Give an "Allahu Akbar" and hit the ejection seat
>Rocket fires, pushes pilot into the still closed plexiglass canopy, bolts blow on canopy
>Sparks from bolts blowing ignite fuel tank
>Plane sits in the ditch, a flaming wreck, waiting for some flight controller to come walking over with a fire extinguisher
>Iranian news: "Great success, Mashallah!"
Generation 5++
>>33262732
>Hay do you remember Tehran’s homemade stealth fighter jet from about 4 years ago.
Yes, and I actually saved some relevant info on it...
1/4
>>33263197
2/4
>>33263219
whoops, wtf why did I save that picture twice?
>>33263233
>>33263242
>The never exeed speed is 265 knots on a "Gen 5" Aircraft
>>33263293
actually some radars squelch out targets that are too slow. but then flying a jet plane that slow is not the safest thing ever, either.
>>33262780
agree, the whole >>33262931 delta wing but not actually triangular and also canards looks kinda sexy, in a funky kind of way
also
>stealth plane
>no gold lined cockpit canopy
its like they WANT the cockpit to be a giant radar reflector
>>33263242
Fucking kek, those 3 wires. They got this from toysrus or something?
>>33262961
You don't need a radar when Allah is guiding you.
>>33262732
>/k/'s face when it becomes the undefeated fighter of WW3 at a tally of 500-0
It should be pretty stealthy since it's small as fuck and is probably made of wood.
Wait, they were serious about that?
>>33263233
This reminds of that episode of Talespin when the Zambians ordered planes in the wrong size and resorted to training children to fly them.
>In a ceremony honoring a flounder
>>33263242
What is this shit, a CB radio for a big rig or something? Surely they wouldn't leave the back end of something like that hanging out of the back of the dash completely unsupported on a 5th gen stealth fighter that's capable of pulling multiple G's.
>>33263734
forgot pic...
>>33262768
yes
>>33263293
>Assuming it has ever been airworthy
A CUTE
What, fucking what?
They actually built the fucking thing? As in for real?
>>33263614
underrated
So why is it attached to that trailer thingy with fucking cargo straps instead of being towed from the front landing gear?
>>33263863
because its made of fiberglass
>>33263293
Its the latest in stealth tech.
Be as slow as a pack of birds, and you will trick enemy SAM and radar systems.
hmmmmmmmmmmmm
>>33263917
why the fuck is it so fucking tiny and cramped?
>imagine you have to fly this shit in WW3.
>>33263917
>>33263945
I wonder if that's just a mannequin sitting in the cockpit
>>33263917
They seriously couldn't find plexiglass that isn't scratched to all hell?
>>33263233
>>33262732
>>33263991
KEK
>>33262973
lol thanks for pointing that out.
>>33262732
this airfield looks like a dump
also why does it need that yellow shitty car to tow it to the runway?
>>33263960
those sandpeople are all manlets, how fucking small is this fucking plane?
>>33263974
holy shit I didn't even notice
wtf is this shit?
is that a joke?
why is iran pretending to be retarded?
>>33263991
jesus christ
>>33263945
It's small to fit Iran's mini-carrier. Also, tight cockpit, tighter maneuvers.
>>33262732
what kind of weaponsystem will it have?
>no room for a cannon
>no internal bays
>no hardpoints?
how many seconds would it survive against incoming F22?
>>33262931
Holy shit that wing profile
There are WW2 fighters designed to go faster
Also pretty good reflector
>>33264055
but single engine means its slow
and
>no weaponsystems
>>33264074
It's obviously a kamikaze-style nuclear ordinance delivery system.
>>33264082
look at the barn where it stands
lmao
>>33264084
I was making a joke. You know... Tight pants, tighter groupings... Tight cockpit, tighter maneuvres...
>>33264097
why not use a missile?
also from wikipedia:
>One Israeli aerospace engineer speaking anonymously to The Times of Israel indicated that while the aircraft displayed was obviously not a flying example, it did show advanced stealth features and that the design could be capable of high maneuverability. He stated that while the aircraft lacked bomb-carrying provisions it could be an effective interceptor.
haha yea sure rabbi
>>33264099
Damn, it gets worse the more I look at it
>>33264118
Long range missile guidance systems are hard, easier to just stick a pilot in there.
>>33264126
why not stick manlet in missile to pilot it?
>>33264118
>speaking anonymously
Guess what, I too can claim to be an anonymous IAI engineer. Or LockMart or BAE. I wouldn't be surprised if it was Iranian disinfo.
>>33264138
g forces too high in missile for manlet to remain conscious
>>33264157
Pump his blood harder with outside pumps. He doesn't need to survive. His genes are shit.
>>33264157
bullshit m8
he would stay concious even during launch.
he just gotta pilot it into the right place.
>>33264178
Why make a manlet-missile when you can make a plane though? There are 100's of different plane designs flying around today but no manlet-missiles, you'd have to start R&D from scratch instead of just ripping off some other aircraft design.
>>33264140
it could also be
>oy vey iran has a stealth fighter
>israel needs more money and f35s now
>>33262931
That's a joke right? It looks like a model for a float at the carnival.
The canopy is made of plastic, there's absolutely no room for anything radar/guns etc, the wing profile is clearly absurd, the exhaust nozzle is probably made of wood... lol?
>>33264200
Missiles are cheaper and hard to stop and easier to build, also faster etc.
a Manlet Missile is in every way superior as a nuclear plattform.
>>33264218
In that case it wouldn't be an anonymous IAI guy, it'd be a politician or high-ranking officer.
>>33264218
there only fits in like 4 mortar rounds or bootleg fireworks.
nigga pls
>>33264245
But how are you going to run drills and train pilots when every flight is a one way trip? Also, a kamikaze-jet can be portrayed as just a fighter whereas a manlet-missile's purpose would be glaringly obvious. I'm pretty sure making any more missiles or performing missile tests would cause Iran to incur even more sanctions whereas no one's going to sanction them for building a "fighter".
>>33264259
>>33264218
wtf kind of shape is that anyway?? or are those the landing gear doors?
Still more advanced than any Euro 5g project.
>>33263688
I loved that episode as a kid. Goddamn bruh, you gave me the nostalgias.
>>33262791
Small, light, short ranged, interceptor - just needs to be good enough to carry semi-autonomous missiles.
The Scourge of Geese everywhere.
>>33263011
Were those faces always on the cockpit?
>>33263242
I'm sure I've seen that cockpit in Kerbal Space Program.
You know what I find most hilarious about this thing? The fact that it has no throttle controls in the cockpit whatsoever.
>>33263945
Squatting toilets are healthier than regular ones.
>>33263872
>Fuel System (Fuel System)
What did they mean by this?
>>33264276
>But how are you going to run drills and train pilots when every flight is a one way trip?
With Simulators you dummy, either with pirated version of Kerbal space program or some modded FSX.
>Also, a kamikaze-jet can be portrayed as just a fighter whereas a manlet-missile's purpose would be glaringly obvious.
But the Manlet missile is a perfect deterrent. Just claim to build a conventional version.
>no one's going to sanction them for building a "fighter".
the jews are already pretending to be threatened anyway. they want greater israel no matter what thats a fact. only the manlet missile can stop them from invading and land grabbing.
>>33264339
...does Iran have any expertise in jet engines?
I know they have expertise in rocket engines, but surely they haven't just... it is confirmed to be a jet right?
>>33264359
>What did they mean by this?
Fuel System
>>33264391
(Fuel System)
>>33264379
It's made of wood. Do you think it's designed for more than one flight?
>>33264401
(((Fuel System)))?
>>33264339
Maybe they're out of the frame of the picture down to the side or something.
F-18 cockpit for reference, I'm not aircraft expert but I can't exactly pick out where the throttle controls are here either.
>>33264379
>...does Iran have any expertise in jet engines?
They got F14s andf their General Electric F110-GE-400 afterburning turbofans, but niggers are too dumb to reverese engineer things
>>33262732
>that dumpy landfill of an airfield
Why are arabs such savages?
>inb4 /pol/ stormfront nazi
Legit question, the only clean and well-kept places you see in the middle east are either meant for tourists or tombs of long dead religious beardleaders
>>33264405
Wooden Jet planes aren't unheard of.
>>33264413
>(((Fuel System)))?
they're naming the petrol jew?
>>33264438
more like (((Fuel))) System so they can burn the jew every time they fire the engines up.
>>33264426
because islamic bullshit makes people dumber on average, also inbreeding and being barely a step above regular niggers press the IQ further down into the 70s range.
>>33264436
True, but the Germans were low on proper material and didn't expect the plane to survive more than a few sorties.
>>33264415
>I can't exactly pick out where the throttle controls are here either.
On the left, not visible in the picture.
>>33264277
its some college students having fun,. more or less
>>33264436
>delaminates in front of you
I feel kinda bad for Iran. It's like when you came back from christmas break and everyone at school has cool new stuff like iPods and gameboys and new clothes and new backpacks and then there's one kid who is just wearing the same old stuff and has a book or something and you can tell she is trying to be happy for everything her friends got over christmas but when they ask her what she got she says she left her stuff at home because it was expensive and she makes up lies like she got a new car and a new bed and stuff but deep down everyone knew she was lying because she was wearing the same clothes her sister who is 2 years older than her wore around this age and you can see her book is obviously a library book even though she said she got a ton of books for christmas and then that girl was you.
:(
>>33264494
Or it doesn't need a throttle because it doesn't have an engine either.
That thing really amazes me - if you build a fake plane for propaganda why not make it look at least somewhat realistic. There are B movie props that look better.
>>33264545
Nice story - but we all know there are no girls on /k/.
>>33264567
well if you kinda squint...
also checkem
>>33264545
but they have tomcats
>>33264140
>Iranian disinfo.
Hmmmmm could it be all disinfo to keep it secret?
>Make fake shity mock up
>Do really bad PR job
>Use RC plane as proof its real
>Use unsophisticated electronics on purpose
>Turn your aircraft industry into laughing stock
>CIA now thinks its a joke
>CIA bins any reports on it as it is joke
>CIA it's not real Mr President
>10 years later....
>CIA oh shit its real!
>>33264545
I became a grill? News to me
>>33263233
What's going on with that canopy glass? It's like looking through sugarglass.
>>33264591
it looks like one of those gutted chickens you buy at the store with a huge hole in the ass. Just laying there all floppy and disgusting like.
>>33264691
it blocks radar so the fighter can kill americas "unsinkable" carriers
>>33264716
whats this from lmao
Next generation Persian fighter
I serve on a US Destoyer operating in the persian gulf. We just pulled into port yesterday and already 3/4s of the sailors on board have defected because we are terrified of the F-313. Theres literally nothing we can do to defend against it.
Retards complaining about them not spending millions of dollars on electronics that is no better than off-the-shelf commercial stuff
>>33264859
>no better
>>33264424
They'd have TF-30s, as they were F-14As.
>>33264426
That's literally the whole world that isn't a first world nanny state. Even the US was dumpy and polluted back in the 50s and 60s before there was a social engineering push to end littering.
>cryingnativeamerican.gif
>>33264859
Anon,the COTS stuff good enough to use in fighters is impossible to get if you're not a NATO friend.
>>33264118
Israel once again tries to make its enemies look more powerful to gain more international support.
>>33262761
where can I buy one of those
>>33264786
those that didnt defect were found in the fetal position hiding in the anchor chain locker
we've feared the ayatollah since 1979
>>33265934
>Even the US was dumpy and polluted back in the 50s and 60s before there was a social engineering push to end littering.
makes me think
>>33265862
Id heard all the Iranian F-14's had to be refitted with soviet engines because America stopped providing parts
>>33266313
go back a little farther to when horses were used.
horse needs to piss or shit? it does.
horse dies along its daily route? leave it by the side of the curb.
when i was a kid shit was still coal-fired. you could literally see and taste the air.
>>33265862
I've watched enough anime to know that the power source of the early models is always more powerful than more recently made ones.
>>33264488
>didn't expect the plane to survive more than a few sorties.
Iran does?
>>33264688
If any of this is true I hope the best for Iran.
Unfortunately it seems much more likely that Iran has some shitty mockups with civilian garmin GPS in it in the retarded arabic idea of what 5th gen is to try to impress westerners.
Shit-world countries will surprise you with how retarded they are in thinking their "technology" will impress westerners because they have never seen anything modern in their lives.
>>33264591
Has anyone tried modeling this to see if it would actually fly? It doesn't look aerodynamically capable of flight.
>>33264591
I'd be surprised if any have working radars, and even if they can see anything on the radar I would be surprised if they can employ even an AIM-7 with them. Sad way for the F-14 to die. A really historic jet with an insanely long range missile capable of awesome fleet defense and now it is a few butchered jets in some arabic country that can maybe employ no-lock aim-9s.
Even if they have aim-54s in service, they wouldn't stand a chance against modern EA. Those missiles are duds now.
>>33266354
>little farther
>40 years
Uhhhh....
>>33264716
>>33264727
I'm also curious about that pic. Where is it from, senpai?
>>33266343
To be fair, those might be decent compared to the TF-30s.
I think it is supposed to work sort of like a manned predator drone. If you can mount a few ATGMs to it and kill a few tanks or even get someone like the Saudis to waste patriot missiles trying to shoot it down before being shot down it could be cost effective.
>>33268365
For reference I believe it would be similar to this aircraft.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=di9IkdY7fvs
>>33267968
apparently it's from iranian unity-based game
https://davoodalirezaei.carbonmade.com/projects/5636715
https://forum.unity3d.com/threads/experienced-developer-available-for-freelance-work.233061/
>>33263555
Worth noting that when this anon says "slow" he means "~50kts".
>>33264727
Iranians are very obsessed about our carriers.
>>33263742
I swear to god I've seen that stick somewhere before...
>>33263688
They also had to weld them together
>>33268566
So what would you send to fight this that wouldn't be terrible overkill, Gloster Gladiators?
>this thread
>>33268739
Oh shit, it is
Iranians are too pathetic to live. Somebody needs to put them out of their misery.
>>33262931
>>33268739
>>33268566
>>33263011
quick rundown on these guys?
>>33263293
Assuming that's actually this plane's VNE and not the VNE of whatever plane that gauge was originally intended for.
>>33262732
Are they using their airfield as the garbage dump? Anyways, I thought this things was just a joke but they literally fucking built it? Just what the fuck went so wrong with Persia.
>>33264330
>>33269383
Don't know who they are, but that X-36 is at the National Museum of the United States Air Force with them guys drawn on the cockpit.
>The X-36 on display came to the museum in April 2003. The X-36 "cockpit" and forward fuselage areas were autographed by personnel associated with the program before Boeing donated the aircraft to the museum.
>>33262732
Un-fucking-likely. I don't want to diss the Iranians, but coming up with a fully functional and effective stealth fighter with an aviation industry only 34 years old is really hard to believe.
No doubt, Iranian engineers know their stuff, but since they even have trouble keeping their 40 year old Tomcats, F5s and Phantoms in the air in sufficient numbers, AND considering that how much of their defence budget goes to missile and rocket developement and production compared to the Air Force.
Let's be honest here, this F313 seems like another bluff.
>>33262973
>and you still win
This should be bolded and made bigger.
Trump might have his faults but damned, he earned some respect just for winning.
>>33262931
>R&D program worth billions, all for PR campaign
>Can't afford to clean the floor
>Can't afford pannels that don't look cheap
>Can't afford a proper photograph to take picture without badly reflected light
>Visible leak in the roof
Those people really have a sense of priority when they try to send the "our country is strong and capable" message.
>>33269834
>stealth fighter with an aviation industry only 34 years old is really hard to believe.
USA kind of gave them a head start (pic related)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93U.S._RQ-170_incident
>>33263742
>tfw lru is on amazon
>>33269659
neat, have not been since the early 90's though
>>33266354
In USA's urban areas, horses were banned as early as the 20s, hence nearly a century ago.
By the 40s, even the countryside had largely abandonned horses for travel, since cars were just that much faster and gasoline was cheap.
By the 50s, pollution and general "dirtyness" of the cities came more from industrial fumes and mass consumption wastes than from horse manure...
>>33268739
That's it.
>>33263614
inshallah
>>33269900
How the fuck were they able to catch it?
>>33270077
They used an f4 to tip it ww2 v2 style. It fucked up the nav and the pilot herded it into Iranian air space. It ran out of gas and glided in a controlled decent until it hit the desert.
>>33268739
Stick for a game about flying F14s
Probably designed to mimic F14 stick
Iran has lots of mingling F14s lying around.
Might not be a toy.
>>33264716
Rocket luncher...
>>33262732
>Haha yeah I remember that, it was probably a propaganda mockup
>Oh_god_they're_serious.jpg.
>>33270110
V-1 you mean
>>33264118
Everybody in Israel, including the media, made fun of them for that report.
>>33270077
Iran says they spoofed its GPS and caused it to land in some patch of desert where they then recovered it.
Those in the aerospace industry think that the drone just had a fuck up and stalled - literally within a year of Iran recovering that drone, some USAF drone operator was given a commendation for getting a another RQ-170 out of a deep (negative-G too IIRC) stall that it got itself into - those shallow / high aspect ratio flying wings have small pitch limits. I wouldn't be surprised if they fly in the coffin corner too.
>>33264591
It looks like a broasted chicken with its limbs splayed on the ground from this angle
>>33266286
http://thehollywoodchristmasparade.org/air-force-mini-jet-team/
>>33270511
>>33270528
>>33270533
>>33270539
DESU
>>33270528
Where can I buy this?
>>33263742
it's an autopilot system
i don't think this thing is actually intended to be able to fly so the autopilot is probably from a cessna or something and they don't care if its supported or not
if it is, maybe there is a support under it of some kind
>>33263054
I don't get it, what's so hilarious about some random shithole developing an aircraft?
>>33269834
>have trouble keeping their 40 year old Tomcats
Do they even have spare parts for them
in addition to pictures posted earlier...
>>33270652
no, nor do they have original missiles
they have to reverse engineer everything now
and they go to great lengths to reverse engineer or smuggle in spare parts of their civilian airliners
>>33270637
Them calling it a stealth fighter
>>33270670
Well then can one really fault them for not being able to keep them in the air?
>>33270721
they do keep them in the air
maybe not as much as they should, but they fly still
>>33266583
this, Arabs have no idea what western tech has evolved into since the late 70s because they have made no advances beyond getting better at dictatoring and gold plating their mercedes because oil monies.
>>33269900
I'm betting they let Russia and China see that thing and now they both have their own secret stealth plane projects.
>>33270542
k-kawaii >////<
>>33270752
>Iran–U.S. RQ-170 incident 4 December 2011
>Sukhoi PAK FA First flight 29 January 2010
Meanwhile, how does it feel stealing from Yak, Lockmart?
>>33270748
Well it's a good thing Iran has nothing to do with Arabs then. Not that Persians have impressed that much in recent times.
>>33263742
Wait, is that cockpit wall/whole fucking panel made of fiberglass?
>>33270077
probably drone pilot error the pilots are typically chosen from the people who are too useless for any other task so crashes are common
>>33270542
>>33270539
>>33270533
>>33270528
>>33270511
(((Air Force)))
>>33270842
Arabs, Persians = same shit, there is no need to differentiate them
>>33270850
It's not meant to actually fly.
>>33270902
They are culturally, racially and historically completely different people. Go read a history book you drooling loser.
Persians are Aryan peoples, Persian is part of the Indo European language family.
Arabs are semites and Arabic is a semitic language. Though Arabic is not just spoken by Arabs but also Berbers for example.
>>33270902
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dILmZn0I4Pw
this is you
>>33270990
Sandniggers are sandniggers, anon. They might have minor differences, but on a larger scale they've all blended into one stinking muslim pile of dirt long ago. Persians are just a little more different due to escaping the fate of being a part of the Ottoman Empire.
>>33271057
>Sandniggers are sandniggers
And Iran doesn't have anything to do with that. You're an ignorant fool but I'd rather not completely derail this thread so I suggest you fuck off and go read some history instead. The Ottoman Empire was also not the first major Muslim Empire in the Middle/Near East so I don't even know what your "argument" is supposed to be saying.
>>33263054
I've got a Garmin 340 in my $25k airplane.
It's not really something you brag about.
>>33270902
Americans, Mexicans = same shit, there is no need to differentiate them...
>>33271057
This is why Fox News shouldn't be making policy decisions
>>33271105
His point is that, regardless of their past, people living from the Atlantic shores of Morrocco to the Indian border of Pakistan are sandniggers because :
>Live in desert-like areas
>Worship Allah
>Treats women like goats
>Treats goats like women
>Hate the West
>>33271375
Cut the former Soviet republics out, Russians did a pretty good job civilising them.
>>33271375
>Hate the West
After two decades of invasions, support of regional rivals, and bombings, I wouldn't exactly be ready to sing "Kumbaya" either
>>33271513
>two decades
So what you are saying is "they started it and now they are mad about it"
>>33263011
Shape reminds me of a plucked turkey.
>>33269659
>autographed
Vandalized.
>>33269900
Yeah, heard about this one, but just cz they got an Rq170 more or less intact, you can't make an effective stealth plane in just a few years, by reverse engineering it. As I said, Iranian engineers are good, but even they can't do miracles.
>>33270077 Autobaza jammer, Russain tech wonder, probably that's how. On pic. This probably isolated the RQ from US control and then the iranians fed it alternate GPS coordinates to make it land.
>>33271527
>they started it
If your Iraqi perhaps, but Iraqis aren't the only people in the ME
>>33271310
Considering that TeamBreitbart is behind the wheel now, Fox almost seems reasonable
>>33271580
Lel
>when bestgore and liveleaks have better news than nbc
>>33271580
This is why I'm glad that we have the IC, since even mainstream media seems to have abandoned the pretense of neutrality
>>33271556
Oh these poor shitskin fanatics, it's not their fault they are so backwards, right? They started it 13 hundred years ago and they will not stop receiving bombs, cruise missiles, blockades and wars and until they calm down and drop the idea.
>>33271694
The Islamic fundamentalist terrorism as we know it today is a relatively recent phenomenon. Saddam Husein and other historical MENA opponents don't fit that mold.
>>>/pol/
>>33267754
Firstly, Iran is not ayyrabs.
Secondly, they did ask the russians to overhaul and modify them F-14s. I wouldn't be surprised that they're putting russian radars on the birds, considering that it could launch AA-8 and even AA-10
It's been 40 years since they got the aircraft, The level of advancement and miniaturization of solid state device is something that Iran would could take advantage of. Hell they could use a RPi (or any of them chink bootleg arduino single board computer) and it would perform better than some microprocessors in the 70s
>>33271711
Islamic fundamentalism itself is terrorism.
>>33265934
but that's wrong you fucking retard
>>33271721
>Hell they could use a RPi (or any of them chink bootleg arduino single board computer) and it would perform better than some microprocessors in the 70s
Actually one of the big reasons military electronics are so expensive is that the commercial market is more lucrative, so you basically have to have your own tooling to manufacture electronics that meet military shock, heat, etc standards.
This is according to some guy from Raytheon I met
>>33271734
If you can't see the difference in ideology and modus operandi between Sadam Hussein and Nasser versus ISIS, you have no business commenting about Middle Eastern policy
>>33266583
>Iran has some shitty mockups with civilian garmin GPS in it in the retarded arabic idea of what 5th gen is to try to impress westerners
They're not trying to impress westerners, it's domestic propaganda.
Repressive regimes and especially religious ones need constant reassuring messages about OUR NATION STRONK and THAT NATION BAD and OUR PROBLEMS ARE BECAUSE OF US/JEWS/whatever
This whole exercise is just domestic propaganda to convince rural farmers that the theocracy can stand up the the enemies they keep talking about. This is kind of important because literally 90% of their university graduates GTFO and go to the west. They have a very, very serious brain drain that will cripple their R&D and absolutely prevent them from being a serious threat to anyone.
>>33271763
And if you think slightly altering reasons for them being backward apes somehow makes them any less backward, you have to go back.
>>33271711
Islamic terrorism is a new thing,but Islamic backwardness is older than Portugal.
>>33268390
Shit that looks like fun to fly.
>>33271876
A bold claim coming from the guy that's conflating Arab nationalism and Wahabbism
>>33271890
>what is the Islamic Golden Age
>what is the Umayyad Caliphate almost invading France
>>33271966
A bold reply coming from a guy who differentiates between two kinds of the same shit.
>>33272026
Well, enjoy wasting trillions on fruitless Middle Eastern wars because you didn't understand the region enough to form a coherent strategy.
>>33272094
There has always been only one coherent strategy regarding Islam.
>>33264415
is that orange and black thing where your balls go to keep them supported during manuvering?
>>33272685
It's an ejection handle.
>>33265934
no American military base has ever been "dumpy." not even in the '50s. they may have been careless with the methyl ethyl ketone or casually handled plutonium with screwdrivers, but they have never allowed litter.
>>33270321
>coffin corner...
the what?
>>33270895
Its a propaganda piece, the drones are more of a use to Iran. If they get stealth technology down pretty good, then their drones would be a huge pain in the ass for any invading force stumbling around Iran's extremely mountainous terrain.
I ain't enlisting in the military any time soon because war with Iran is a possibility for the US. Noping out of that hellhole for invaders right quick.
>>33272765
>no American military base has ever been "dumpy." not even in the '50s. they may have been careless with the methyl ethyl ketone or casually handled plutonium with screwdrivers, but they have never allowed litter.
>Get stuck picking up 5000 cigarette butts in front of the community center/credit union/etc., building at Wiesbaden
>>33272765
Yeah its not like they totally burried hazardous waste in some unused corner of a base or dumped carcinogenic chemicals down stormdrains because they were too lazy to dispose of them properly.
Not like those chemicals have formed an ever growing ground plume and have been leaching into the watertable for decades, resulting in record breaking birth defect and cancer rates.
This has literally happened never.
>t. You
>>33271310
link for one incidence, just one, where a repeat commentator, journalist, or producer on fox news has ever publically conflated Arabs and Persians because lol Muhammadism.
I'll wait.
>>33271711
>Islamic fundamentalism terrorism is relatively new.
the Barbary pirates would like a word with you.
>>33271310
>tfw Trump gets his info from Fox news instead of intelligence briefings.
The president of the United States makes his policies based on what he sees on 'Fox and Friends' during his 6+ hours of TV he watches every day.
>>33271979
something that happened a thousand years ago.
>>33272905
I literally said shit like that happened, you lazy illiterate pedophile! it in the fucking text you fucking quoted!
>they may have been careless with the methyl ethyl ketone or casually handled plutonium with screwdrivers...
trash on the ground does not equal a chemical landfill next to a creek.
the military NEVER allows trash on the ground. except in Iran because they are moonrock worshipping pedophiles.
>>33273014
>the Iranian military allows trash on the ground because they are moonrock worshipping pedophiles
That's a hell of a thesis statement. You should write a paper on that.
>>33272965
>when the thumbnail is clearer than the pic...
>>33273086
prove me wrong.
pro tip: you can't.
>on 4chan, this constitutes a research paper.
>>33269594
>>33262732
If you look closely there is a discarded toilet in the background. The 'plane' is literally being stored in a garbage dump.
>>33262732
imagine if the us leaked the info on the plane knowing it sucked or they have inside men on the other side and they took the data once china fixed all the issues lol
>>33273132
Let's take a syllogistic approach.
If A = Iranians
B = pedophiles
C = litterbugs
All A are B
All A are C
Therefore all B are C
You posted a smug loli, therefore you are B.
You also like shitposting, so you are C.
My God! The syllogism checks out! I guess you're right. Also, you're Iranian.
>>33263623
Against what?
NK's supply of military biplanes?
>>33263945
Notice that there is no means to actually close the canopy, there isn't even a latch to hold it down.
>>33271763
They attack our civilians
The reasons might matter, sure... but they won't influence the final answer.
>>33271552
Russia and China sent officials to Iran when that happened. So Iran obviously had some help. Also, Iran was caught hacking blueprints for the F-35.
>>33276253
That photoshop of it from the display room is funny.
>>33276996
>photoshop
Making a jet out of fiberglass is good enough to block the strait of Hormuz, which is Irans biggest military objective.
And for the price of one f-22, they can build probably 100 of these. The missiles they carry don't care about the platform they're on.
>>33277352
>Making a jet out of fiberglass is good enough to block the strait of Hormuz
Wrong.
>>33277036
That's not a real picture, buddy.
>>33277352
>Making a jet out of fiberglass is good enough to block the strait of Hormuz
In what universe, retard?
>>33277036
Here's the source image.
>>33277567
nice photoshop
>>33262732
I fucking love that Coleman tug they are towing with. Best tugs the Air Force ever bought. Comfortable suspension for a tug, big Dodge flathead six cylinder engine, and the back deck rail lets you carry a full tow crew of three plus chock walkers.
>>33277583
You're fucking retarded.
>>33263974
>>33264028
I don't think that is scratches on the windscreen, no lines. They may have left the protective plastic wrap on the plexiglass though.
>>33264074
OBVIOUSLY it's going to be armed with .22LR DU-tipped rounds.
If just one hits the F-22, it will bounce around inside turning the F-22 internals into mush.
>>33274821
>They attack our civilians
When did Sadam do that? When did Nasser do that? When did Sadat do that?
Maybe you're fucking retarded to conflate Arab nationalist strongmen with Wahabi fundamentalist terrorists
>>33277352
>And for the price of one f-22, they can build probably 100 of these.
And crew them anon? Reminder that it wasn't a lack of aircraft that sunk the Japanese in WW2, but a lack of experienced pilots.
>The missiles they carry don't care about the platform they're on.
Yes they do.
>>33262761
Wtf is wrong with his beret? Get your shit in order
>>33278426
>Nasser
>Sadat
are past history and never had to be worried about Egypt being invaded/bombed by the USA.
>Saddam
Pic related.
You can shoot at our soldiers.
That's their job and if they are in your territory, they expect it.
But don't you dare harming our civilians.
Or even threathening to do so.
Because we take that shit seriously.
(sure, the kid on the picture is british but there were american people too)
>>33271763
>>33278426
Some of us have memories that go beyond the 1990's fuckstick.
>>33277352
You got a point about quality mattering little if all that's needed is to put a platform in the sky for the missile to be fired from.
Still, a certain level of quality is needed.
The japs tried to do away with quality because they needed number and it failed big time.
>>33280329
Yeah, and we're thinking you should listen to that guy, he's not so crazy.
>>33262732
Is it still using commercial ots stuff you can buy online?
>>33271979
>>33271966
>>33272094
>>33271556
>>33271711
>>33271763
Pic related is all I can think of when reading this
>>33264545
Tits or gtfo pew pew pew
>>33272266
This. The only solution to Islam is to slit their throats, and take the women.
>>33263832
Do you have special needs?
>>33264545
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>>33281174
>Do you have special needs?
yeah what of it bro?
you got a problem with paws... bro?
>>33269383
>>33263614
>>33273316
double dubs can't be wrong
>>33271297
But Americans and Mexicans are the same, gringo...
>>33270077
Where do you think stuxnet came from?
How do you think it got into Iranian territory?
>>33271552
You can't just feed a drone GPS coordinates. You can jam it, sure, but making it land at some coordinates you decide is something completly different.
>>33264545
>I feel kinda bad for Iran. It's like when you came back from christmas break and everyone at school has cool new stuff like iPods and gameboys and new clothes and new backpacks
I didn't know Americans have consumerism drilled into them at such a young age
>>33263197
>>33263219
I'll probably be mocked for this, but do US fighters have any off the shelf stuff like this?
Pls no bully
>>33263917
babby's first plane
>>33264138
Manlets are disposable too. Good pilot option for these
>>33264218
>oy vey iran has a super fighter
>amerifats we need 100 free F35s or are you an anti-semite?
You all assume this aircraft is supposed to compete with the F-22 and F-35 multirole fighters. What if its a slow as fuck, piston engined internal turbine driven, wood and polycarbonite framed, and at the cost of a crop duster version of the F-117 stealth fighter? They aren't trying to gain air superiority; they want a fleet of undetectable and untargetable bomb trucks that cost less than the missles fired at them. Thus the us would be forced to send the equivalent of tanks hunting lone infantrymen, loosing through attrition like in Vietnam.
>>33272856
Either you force your engine to shit itself as the atmosphere thins out and your aircraft stops generating lift, or you stall.
Once you stall at that altitude, it's incredibly difficult to recover without permanently fucking your plane up.
>>33284761
This post just got dumber and dumber as it went on.
Bravo, good show.