/OHG/

atf pls go

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This is my problem solver.

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Tfw when not a glockfag and don't like extra shit on my gun

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>these handguns
>offensive
umm try again sweetie

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The 1911 always struck me as the offensive type. Both towards people's faces and to some people's tastes.

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All about that gey man shit.

>>33253752
>offensive handgun

So outfitting your gun like you're going to compete in the IPSC open division makes it offensive?

>>33253972
>MARK 23
>Offensive handgun thread

Highly underrated post.

>>33253972
That's only half offensive. You need the LAM to finish the package.

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>>33253752
TACTICOOL

THERE IS ONLY 1 OFFENSIVE HANDGUN IN THE WORLD

>>33255031
Probably the only actual offensive weapon that will be posted

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>>33255061
>forgot pic

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>>33255090

>>33255105

That's not even a soldier's gun.

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>>33255125
>it's a warriors gun

>>33255144

Warriors and hired goons swear by it.

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>>33255157
And that one guy in Seattle who thinks his hi point is a glock

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>>33255182

>mfw blacks think "glocks" are all pistols.

>>33254914
>inventing a cool nickname for yourself
you fucking mall ninjas

>>33255125
TIGHT TOLERENCES

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>>33253752

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>>33253752
In.

>>33255304
UNRELIABLE

>>33255304
FULL LENGTH GUIDE ROD

>>33254642
The only people that can't appreciate the aesthetics of a 1911 are glock/tacticoolfags aka not people

>>33255346
You can think the 1911 looks good and still like glocks

May as well call this thread "guns for guys that will be killed by guys with rifles"

>>33254914
What belt is this?

>>33255055
>$20 Chink light
>yucky RDS and yuckier mount
I rate you: yuck/10

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I think I need to get a baby fauxland special

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>>33253752
>>33253890
>>33253768
>>33255055

I got you guys.

Kraut Mustard Face Inbound.

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>>33255675
Needs a red dot

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>>33255675

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>>33255463
High Threat Concealment low viz something or another. Basically just a hybrid rigger's belt with a leather front section/buckle.

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>>33255722
What I need is find find a custom holster maker who builds an awesome appendix holster fitted for the TLR-1 - I feel like I've been everywhere, no one offers for it, not even T-Rex

>>33255496
Got the light for free. TLR-1 on the way.

This is the only RDS option for a cz that retains the rear sight.

>post gun or fite me irl

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Why are WML threads some of the most content rich and on topic threads /k/ can have?

It makes no sense..

Is it because the noguns, poorguns and noobguns don't own any WMLs?

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>>33255929
Poverty is the scourge of our society

>>33255743
call these places on the phone and they will make whatever you want, especially t-rex.

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>>33255995
thx for the tip anon, will do tomorrow and post in /ohg/ what they say

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>>33256011
forsho my hk bro

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Other than collecting is there even a reason to buy an /ohg/ that isn't pic related?

>inb4 poorfags

>>33254942
outfitting it like your mother makes it offensive

>>33256052
>is there even a reason?
yes, that reason is offense.

>>33256052

If you are a high volume shooter, I would stay lightyears away from any FNH pistol.

https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?24700-So-I-broke-my-FNS-9L/page1

The update is on page 12

They will not have your back.

>>33255266
Please lurk moar

>>33256083
>website is currently unavailable

Give me the details anon

>>33256088
no, this whole greyman thing is stupid

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>>33256092

Wew lad it's a super long story but basically my FNS-9L had a catastrophic failure at about 16k rounds (I'm totally cool with parts breaking at that round count)

So I sent it in under warranty and they called back saying they were going to charge me $370 for a new slide - JUST a new slide.

Some people may be cool with that, but HK or Glock would cover you no questions asked in this situation, not only was I not covered but they were kinda cunts about it. Totally crushed my faith in continuing to run that gun.

That said if you are casual tier, this is going to be a non issue and I still think mechanically FNH designs great stuff.

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>>33256154
Part of me thinks that is a bit bitchy but at the same time after 16k rounds I've shot more than enough to warrant a new slide, so I'm kinda 50/50

I'd see if it says anything specific in the warranty though, because if it does then yea they're being a bitch but if it doesn't then it was an agreement that was known about beforehand. Even if it's shittier than other companies

>>33256154
sucks, fuck them. I'm not into them because of bendy plastic meme and oddly sized compacts but. what was the nature of your catastrophic failure ?

>>33255991
>dat Pumpkin Spice TAC trigger
I just ordered a TAC for my Glawk today. How did it affect your gun's trigger feel? Any other aftermarket parts in there?

>>33255743
JM Custom.

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>>33256190
>I'd see if it says anything specific in the warranty though

THe manual has no specifics on warranty

You are free to think I'm bitching but shooting isn't a hobby for me it's a lifestyle. The gear I use needs to be 100% available and dependable for me or I simply have to move on. It's not personal with them, even though I was furious as shit from the lip and treatment I received as someone with over $3,000 invested in FNH pistols

>>33256219
No other aftermarket. Just the trigger, transfer bar, and spring that came with the trigger.
Trigger is amazing now.

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Muh Navy SEAL OHG. This was a limited edition gun that they tried out in small numbers so that's probably why you never heard of it before.

>>33254942
No, being a babyshit brown Glock 19 makes it offensive.

>>33256233
No I totally agree with you, I'm just saying that while I would expect them to cover something like that if it's not in the warranty or they put in some fine print that they don't there's really nothing to be done

If it was in there I'd bitch them out for it though, makes me want to go read mine right now even

>>33256154
You came off like a total dick on PF. I get that you aren't thrilled with the situation, but your posts made you seem emotionally immature. You essentially rage typed a tantrum. Save that nonsense for /k/ or arfcom or really anywhere else.
Don't shitpost on PF.

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>>33256269
the six second fits the large frame glocks?
nice

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>>33256198

So for about a week the trigger had a really weak reset, and occasionaly wouldn't reset with a little tap.

I shoot every day about 100 rounds so I kept trying different little remdial action fixes like deep bath cleaning, over lubing/under lubing etc..

Finally I couldn't take it anymore so I did a detail strip of the slide.

I found that the striker return spring had blown apart and was about 1/3 it's original length. I was actually impressed, I'd been shooting the gun totally broke for a week and I could still get away with bill drills 80% of the time.

I was going to simply request a new spring. Then I noticed the firing pin block was lodged in the recessed opinion, and for the life of me I couldn't unseat it.

So, while the gun was broken in two spots, and mechanically in an extremely dangerous condition - it continued to do its work.

That's the mechanical failure, it's actually insanely impressive, their customer service failure on the other hand was repulsive.

>>33255182
I thought that was supposed to be London?

>>33256314
oh i see. neat

>>33255233
And that they're all .40's

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>>33256276
>go read it
>find out it's sketchy as fuck

buyer beware if you are a volume shooter anon....

>>33256262
Do they include the trigger spring with every trigger? I ordered mine through Weapon Outfitters, so I don't know if the trigger spring is included when ordering through them.

>>33256289

Might be your opinion on my attitude but I disagree and frankly you are in the minority.

I'll take your opinion as you take mine, we can just go on ignoring each other.

>>33256347
Especially if you're a volume shooter who can't bother to PM their fucking gun.

>>33255929
I think it's more to do with the fact that there are about a dozen valid, high-quality weapon lights out there that are all close enough together on the "good" scale that there's little room to argue and dickwave, while simultaneously uniting to shit on Inforce.

>>33256052
Yes.

Offending people of good taste.

>>33256154
>Only 16k
No offense but that's kind of low in my mind, but I shoot 250rds on a slow week

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>>33256375

Good point anon

>>33256400

Legendary HK reliability guns have a parts failure roughly every 20k rounds, to me it was in an acceptable window of longevity.

My failure might have been catastrophic and not minor, but I think in the end it could have been more of a fluke with the firing pin block. We will never know now because my 4" FNS that is at 13k rounds will never get to 16k to check.

>>33256361
I hardly doubt I'm in the minority regarding you whining about your experience.
How many people told you to take a deep breath and chill? You were either an emotional wreck or your posts were so poorly constructed that it made you seem that way.
Threatening to bash a company all over the internet and rage selling other FN guns before you even spoke to someone above entry level customer service?
Seems awfully immature.
Sorry about your weekend plans. Twat.

>>33255356
>not all rectangles are squares

>>33253972
/thread

>>33256438
Yeah you are clearly a bastion of maturity.

I received an overwhelming amount of support and private messages and sympathy.

There were exactly 2 people blowing my attitude out of proportion, Hiro.

Feel free to re-read the thread and monitor the posters name's, but I have a feeling you have already made up your mind.

>>33256428
4k more rounds is a big difference though, happy to hear you like your gun and it made it to 16 mark of a guy who loves his gun.

>>33256438
And my weekend is looking stellar now that I'm back on that kraut space magic bandwagon, gonna be a bit of a bitch to retrain for paddle mag release, and in general I have to keep my thumbs further down on the gun...But fuck did I miss that LEM trigger

>>33256052
Cats aren't expensive.

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>>33256476

Like I said we are all free to come up with our own acceptable round counts, you do you I'll do me broski.

>>33256469
I would be remarkably disappointed if people I respect actually offered "sympathy" for this great personal tragedy that you've suffered.
Holy fuck dude. If you're so easily traumatized, I don't think you should worry about getting a new slide. Maybe just sell off all your guns and find yourself a Safe Space™

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>>33256313
It's a bit tight. It scraped the sides of my frame putting it on a little but barely.
You have to take the rear sight off anyways but I learned unlike the small frames you have to remove the front sight as well because it will smash into the mount.

>>33256428
New to the argument here but 16k to first part breakage seems low to me as well.

I shot bullseye pistol with both a Smith 629 and a home-built 1911 for nearly 23 years before I had my first parts breakage. Admittedly with mild-but-not-powderpuff handloads, but both pistols had close to 70k rounds on them before either suffered a parts breakage. Then I got into IPSC-style shooting with a used CZ75B, I've put close to 130,000 rounds through it with zero parts breakage over the course of about 11 years and that was a police trade-in gun off Gunbroker that was beat to shit with an unknown round count (only replaced springs when I got it).

I don't know if this makes me INSANELY lucky or if I just take better care of my shit than the average shooter or what, but I have 11 different firearms with over 30k rounds through them with zero parts breakage running the gamut from a turkshit pump shotgun to a tricked-out doublestack 1911 I've been shooting hot .38 Super Major PF loads through to several AR's to a high-end competition clays O/U.

>>33256528

Maybe it is.

Regardless of my opinion - FNH customer service didn't think it was low, so here we are...

Psst..
Hey kid..
Wanna buy an FNS?

>>33256558
Fair enough.

And no, not a fan of striker guns. But thanks for offering.

>>33256558
Disclaimer: the FNS has had zero preventative maintenance performed.
Previous owner prone to hissy fits.

>>33256520
I'm not sure what you want from me. I stated multiple times in that thread I was beyond furious and even pointed out I was aware I needed to calm down, I also have clearly stated now multiple times pistol shooting is my life, I love it, if you think that's weird I don't care.

Yes, this was a huge deal for me, it's a completely new vector and shift in my entire lifestyle.

Is there anything I can do to make you back off so this thread can stay solid?

>>33256588
Next time you could step away from the keyboard and like type every fucking emotion that flows through you.
Or go on Facebook and bitch all you want.
Don't fuck with the signal:noise ratio just because you can't control yourself.

>>33256631
Will do anon, I had a bad day I'm sorry you had to read about it.

>>33256469
so like im not that guy but honestly you do come off as slightly immature in some of your first posts. no real big deal or anything id be pretty upset in your position and whoever said that a slide failure is ok at 16k rounds must smoke crack. on the other hand every time you reply to a troll post from hiro or that anon you just sound more bitchy and immature over kinda like youre looking to argue and like maybe your slide wouldnt have ended up totaled if you hadn't of fired ~700rnds through it after the spring in question broke but thats neither here nor there.

FWIW.

>>33256657
Yeah, I was wound up.

Not that this is an excuse...But I quit smoking butts/got off nicotine entirely 9 months ago, I;ve basically had these flashes of pure rage ever since.

A few days ago I put this fucking methhead's skull into a telephone pole for trying to rip one of our signs off of it, first time since high school I've struck another human being.

Sigh, I hope it eventually passes, but as of right now its deal with volcano like fits of rage or die from blood clots and lung cancer.

Not either of those guys, but I did participate in the PF thread and I'm not Hiro or that obnoxious GardengnomeVermont twat.

Your situation sucks.

But also keep /k/ off of PF. Two very different cultures, and the argumentative and posting styles that are normal here is frowned upon. As a supporting member there since Obama was still in his first term, that thread kind of came across as coming in and shitting on the couch.

TL;DR: You were in the right to bitch. But bitch more in tune with your audience.

>>33257201
I openly admit I spend most of my time posting here and yes I'm very used to our more brash and blunt, even rude style. Combine that with seething rage and yes, I was out of line.

But this is the last post regarding my personality I'm going to address on this issue as it's not adding ANYTHING of value to /k/ or this thread.

I have shilled like I was paid to do it for the FNS for years here, I kinda feel like I owe a little balance to the equation so I'm gonna drop that link when pertinent for a little while.

>>33253752
i want to by a glock 21, just want to know if anyone here has a worthy opinion why i shouldnt get one

>>33256715
>nicotine

Vape my dude.

>>33257263
Any reason why you want something in .45?

>>33257243

>value to /k/

kek.

Ok, but seriously: fair enough. I'm not saying don't participate at PF. As you seem to have recently discovered, it truly is a great resource and a great community. I am saying that it's wise to adjust your posting style accordingly while there.

Having said all of that, look at the bright side: you chose the P30 LEM, so you've now got HK to shill for and you can join the cult of nyeti/Dagga Boy.

>>33255516
Your sights confuse me. Sight picture pic?

What would you guys recommend as a sturdy capable EDC pistol, as an alternative to a Glock?

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I give you the world's most tactical pistol.

>>33257263

Smart move is to go for the Gen 4 variants. They're more accommodating to normal people hands. If you wear a size medium glove, you should be able to handle the pistol (controls, trigger reach) but bigger hands are better here.

I'd suggest looking at the 41 as well if you're wanting a pistol that's both a Glock and a .45. It's a tad snappier than the 21 (lighter slide) but in my experience it tracked pretty well and it has the benefit of feeling like a Glock 34.

>>33257272
Can't I'm %100 guaranteed to fall back on the cancer sticks if nicotine ever enters my body again, I fucking love smoking butts.

>>33257288
I just posted a kinda formal apology in that thread because of your reasoned and non virulent explanation in this thread.

OK fuck, no more about my dumb ass. Bust out more /ohg/ and /wml/s folks...

>>33257319
Single or double stack?

>>33257319

Well, one of the participants upthread broke one of /k/'s favorite snowflake not-a-Glocks, so it looks like the FNS is out...

Uh, try a SIG P320 series gun in the size you want if you want striker-fired. If you're OK with a full-size pistol, the VP9 is a good option as well. Finally, I think the new M&P 2.0 has lots of potential, but again that's a full-sized pistol.

For compact and subcompact, your options narrow to the M&P 9/40C and the P320C and P320SC.

Or you can, you know, buy a Glock and quit being a pussy.

>>33257263
Current duty gun. No complaints.

That being said, I carry a 17 on my time.

Not really sure if they're considered offensive pistols, but what would you guys prefer?
P30L vs. VP9
>inb4 that tripfaggot comes in here

>>33257386

Between the two I prefer the P30/P30L if the P30 is in LEM. HK DA/SA is dogshit as compared to Beretta and SIG offerings, and if current CZ is as good as my pre-B CZ-75, it's shit compared to them as well.

That's mainly because I really like the LEM trigger though. For everything else, the P30 and the VP9 are functionally identical and VP9Ls (and SKs) are supposedly coming after the NRA show this year.

>>33257405
I know this is dumb but I've kinda wanted a HK pistol ever since I saw John Wick 2
and because I don't have a handgun yet I was wondering if I was making a bad decision.

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>>33257445
Why did 2 make you want one and not the original?

>>33257445

No, you're not. They're pricier than some other options but they're also well-regarded as durable, reliable, and accurate pistols. Mags are out there -- and a bit more common because of the VP9's introduction and resultant demand increase -- and some good sight and holster options are available.

I personally prefer the P30L to the P30 for balance and sight radius, but either one is going to be fine.

>>33257445
The usp 9c is fairly concealable and HK. might wanna give it a look, i just picked one up recently and theyre pretty nice. alternatively the CZ p01 and p07 are pretty nice.

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>>33257454
At first I didn't think the P30 was aesthetically pleasing until I kept looking at pictures of the same g19 over and over again.
I was considering buying pic related but not sure if it's worth paying extra for the finish despite it looking nice imo

>>33257522

Yeah, if you want a Glock 19, buy a Glock 19. Don't pay extra for Bubba Tactical to make it look "worn." That's probably distressed cerakote, but it basically looks like somebody took emery cloth to the slide to try to "polish" it into a two-tone.

>>33257476
>>33257500
Appreciate the feedback bois but unfortunately, I don't think those handguns are on the cuckfornistan roster.

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>>33256528
>don't know if this makes me INSANELY lucky or if I just take better care of my shit than the average shooter or what, but I have 11 different firearms with over 30k rounds through them with zero parts breakage

I legit am curious, how old/rich are you?

My entire financial reality is framed around shooting, casual shooters are floored with my round counts, I am floored by yours.

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>>33257540
I figured. Appreciate the advice.

>>33257542

I just looked. The VP9 and P30 are, unfortunately, out.

Your options are the USP, USP-Compact and the P2000. I've owned both a P2000 and a USP-C and personally preferred the P2000. They're basically identical guns except the P2000's a bit more trim and carry-friendly. Also, the USP-C has a weird rail so you'll need an adapter if you're going to put a WML on it. However, the USP-C's grip texture is more aggressive if you're into that. The USP line also has a wider variety of sights available than the P2000, largely due to HK being idiots and changing the dovetail specs slightly between pistols despite basically identical slide profiles.

Current OHG is a Sig 226 in .357Sig wearing a TLR3, and has the Tritium night sights. But I think I'm about to sell it and maybe 1 or 2 other guns and get either a P320 (Carry) for a new EDC gun, or an FNX45 to replace my Jericho (old steel frame) on my battle belt.

>>33257651
I guess since a 1911 was mentioned above, I also have a Para Elite that sometimes wears ReCover Grips to sport a TLR3 as well, but i enjoy the wood on steel look a lot more for a 1911 than the polymer railed grips.

>>33257589
Noted, but I was looking more towards a full sized pistol. Looks like there aren't too many on the roster but I was looking towards the USP 45 v1.
Thoughts?

>>33257683

It's a brick. That's basically the extent of my experience with the USP45. I much prefer the HK45 but that's not an option for you.

Does it need to be a .45? If so, the USP9 (or .40) is a fine choice as well. HK's neutered mags are known to actually be reliable, unlike Glock's, so you've got that going for you.

Another option is to get a decent 1911, as it sounds like you're in a price bracket that could buy you a good Springfield, a good Colt if they all haven't dropped off the roster, or one of Dan Wesson's offerings (PM7). I'd also consider a Beretta 92.

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Is this offensive enough?

>>33257760
I'm crazy offended by your baby hands, so yes it's offensive enough

Can you even pull the trigger in DA?

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I love this goofy thing. I've got an Overwatch Precision TAC trigger on the way for it right now and I'm gonna replace the Memeforce with a U-Boat next month. Still not sure if I'm gonna go with a black or FDE X300U-A though.

What are /k/'s recommended WMLs?

I've considered the Inforce WML and the Streamlight TLR1 or TLR2. I've played with an X300 but didn't care for the momentary-on switch. Any others I should consider?

>>33257718
No was just looking for a full sized one, don't really matter about caliber choice since I'm restricted to 10 rounds anyways.
I do like the triggers on the 1911's though, so I might just end up with a springfield

>>33257807
Pass on the Inforce. I bought mine because it was cheapish, looked cool, and came in FDE, which matched my carry gun at the time.

It's not nearly as durable as the TLR1s and X300s, and it also has a problem with battery drain. It's designed in a way that causes the battery to slowly drain if the lens is tightened down into an active position, even if the light itself is off. The only way to store it long-term without the battery dying on you is to loosen the lens to deactivate the light, which makes it pointless as a bedside WML, especially when TLR-1s are about the same price and as far as I know don't have the same issue.

Basically, TLR-1 or X300U. I wouldn't bother with anything else unless you have a special need that requires something a bit different like a G43 or Shield that will only host a TLR-6.

>>33255310

>beavertail not pegged all the way through
>this only bothers me because I spent a fucking hour making sure it had proper spacing on both sides using the poke stick and the butt of a magazine
>do I have autism now?

REEEEEEEEEE

>>33257842
Not trying to battle but whats the deal with APL not as durable? I know the gen 1 had a quick release tab that was junk, but it seems the company totally has that covered and fixes it on the spot if asked

>>33257828

Browsing through the roster, your options include the Loaded series, the TRP series, and the Professional (3K factory custom) as well as the mil-spec clones. For any practical use, I'd lean away from the mil-spec style.

The Dan Wesson PM7 is similar in price to the TRP, and also a very worthy choice (probably a bit better than the TRP as far as build quality, desu).

>>33255991

Literally picked that model up today in MOS (in case yours isn't). Its fucking gorgeous and I am heavily considering picking up the surefire just because I like that symmetry with the barrel.

my inner joo might force me to pick up the TLR-1 HL tho. I am not sure 100 dollars is worth aesthetics alone, and I haven't seen anything that would justify the difference in price otherwise.

>>33257882
It was mostly the locking bar, but I consider the battery drain thing to be a far more critical issue (I've never had any issues with my APL flying off or anything).

Inforce does have a lifetime warranty and just introduced a Gen 3 APL, so maybe they've fixed things, but I have a custom FNP-9 holster built around the Gen 2 APL so I'm sorta stuck with mine. I don't *hate* it, but I'd prefer something that I don't have to battery check all the time, so I can't wholeheartedly recommend it either.

My Glock is getting an X300U.

>>33257945
got it, good post.

I really liked the aesthetics of my INForce gen 2 on my FNS guns but it loos like junk on my P30L so I've kinda swung back to the streamlight camp

I know looks aren't everything, but frankly I haven't trained seriously enough on ANY of my lights to base decisions on much else but it's my money right?

>>33257554
I'm in my late 40's, I'm far from rich but I have a steady income and pretty much no bills. I'm medically retired military so I get a lot of money in disability and work a decently paying part-time skilled trade job.

I also reload for almost everything I shoot, everyone poo-poo's the cost savings on shit like 9mm but when my Major PF loads run me 10cpr and my plinking loads are ~7.5cpr I'm looking at around $1700-2000 a year in savings over buying the cheapest factory ammo at 20cpr.

>>33258071
>I also reload for almost everything I shoot,

Soi you are the guy I need tot alk to.

Answer me this, whart is the bottom dollar PPR you can get your 9x19 ball target ammo down to?

I am a pistol shooter only and I have had a hard time investing the set up costs for something that takes time and at least according to most people will save me jack shit.

>>33257782
Well it's the Omega trigger so it has like, half the total travel of the regular CZ trigger. So probably he can.

>>33258071
What's your reloading setup? I'm looking at starting and I just want decent jacketed ball plinking stuff.

>>33257891
Noted. Thoughts on the 70/80 series?
Not that I'd probably be able to get them anyways

>>33258029
Sounds like you're in the same boat I am, except I'm going to Surefire next time. I also forgot to mention that the APLs are woefully short on lumens compared to the competition - Gen 1/2 APLs throw 200 lumens, compared to the 600 you get on the X300U and the 800 thrown by the TLR-1 HL.

Also, I just realized I've got a Gen 1 APL with the flippy lever. Guess I'll keep it until it decides to die, then it'll be time to see if the Gen 3 will fit a Gen 1 holster.

>>33258097

Not him, but my experience has been: I invested about $600 to get going. I get primers for about .03/per, powder charge is about .03 per, bullets (hard cast coated lead) are running me about .07/per, and brass I got for free.

I could lower the cost by about a cent by reducing my powder charge, but I'm loading 4.6gr of HP38 in order to get me ~1100fps out of 124gr 9mm. Other than that, I'm pretty much bottlenecked at that price point.

>>33256226
Thanks but nope, they got back to me and said more WML appendix options are being developed but not available yet, not even by request.

I'll bug T-Rex tomorrow - they are more formal and work business hours. John gets back to my nit picky inquiries during drinking hours lol

>Offensive Handgun
Wew, the one small-arm concept from the end of the 20th Century that managed to fall on its ass harder than PDWs...

>>33258097
Ball? Like maybe 11cpr. There's a reason I shoot cast/coated and plated bullets.

If I were willing to shoot uncoated cast I could get it down to 6.9cpr. Missouri Bullet Co. does a military discount if you call them, as well as volume discounts for truly shitloads of bullets. Between these two and group buys I get the Hi Tek-coated Smallball 124gr cast RN for about 5 cents a bullet, factor in ~2.2 cents for the cheapest reliable primers you can find (used to be Wolf, currently S&B) and right at a cent for powder. I use range scavenged brass for almost everything but match rifle, I have the free time to inspect it but I know a lot of people don't.

You do NOT want to be trying to make Major with range-scavenged brass in *any* caliber unless you inspect it to an autistic level.

>>33258119
Currently a Hornady LnL AP for rifle ammo and a Dillon 650XL for pistol. I've also got a P-W 800A 12ga shotshell progressive that was a garage-sale find that's almost worn out and will be upgrading to a Spolar when it does.

Subgauges I do on Mec 600jr's because I'm holding off til I need the Spolar to get progressive toolheads for them (the 800A isn't gauge-convertible like the -B, -C, and Plus are, it's too old).

I also have Wilson hand dies for my 6mm PPC-Short, .22 PPC, and .17 K-Hornet and a Forster Co-Ax for my 6.5-284 and .243 target ammo.

>>33258139

I'm of the opinion that a firing pin block safety is not an inherently bad thing on a 1911. Purists differ because muh trigger pull, but the truth is a good smith can get you a trigger pull that's indistinguishable from a Series 70. I also don't see anything wrong with going for a Series 70. However, Colt's series 80-style is the only one I'd trust.

The Swartz-style that Kimber and Smith and Wesson use is very dependent upon proper fitting of the beavertail grip safety, and a bit of parts deformation or debris can and will lock your gun up.

If you want a Series 80 Colt, looks like you're gonna be buying used unfortunately. Failing that, buy a current-production Series 70 gun from Springfield or one of the botique makers (I saw Dan Wesson, Les Baer, Nighthawk, Guncrafter Industries, and Wilson on the list -- all but Dan Wesson are into the "spending more than I spent on my first car" tier). The other option is to buy a Springfield and send it into their custom shop for some good tuning (they're affordable, good turnaround, good work) as a legal option to get exactly what you want.

>>33258151
Sounds like you need to switch powder to me. That's a loootta powder for 9mm at that velocity, and HP38's one of the more expensive pistol powders anyway.

I use Titegroup, 3.8gr will get me a hair over 1100fps behind a 124gr Berry's plated TC from a 5" barrel. And it's usually about $10 per 8lb keg cheaper than HP38.

>>33258204
Okay, last question here. I hate using this word but are Kimbers the "meme" brand of 1911's?

>>33258279

I've considered it, but I'll be honest and say that I just got into reloading within the past six months and after researching I decided on HP38 due to its versatility (works for all three calibers I'm loading for), ease of finding loads, and relative safety (wide margins between min and max).

Titegroup is on my list to try though after I work through the 8lb jug I got in October.

>>33258187
>Ball? Like maybe 11cpr. There's a reason I shoot cast/coated and plated bullets.

Holy fucking fuck best I get by volume is 0.19 per round with brass including tax or circumventing it and also including shipping

>cast

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
>Breakup with traditional rifled bbl FNH guns
>re-commit to Poly HK guns

what's your super-frugal-jew PPR on jacketed reloads?

>>33258326

Coated hard cast lead, dude. It'll work fine with polygonal -- I've got >1500 of it through a Glock with no signs of leading. Failing that, buy plated.

True jacketed bullets are by far the most expensive.

>>33258283
Absolutely.

They used to be good back in the 90's, maybe as late as 2002. But once they became popular they started cutting corners without reducing costs, and they cut corners they absolutely should not have.

Issues I've seen with them:
>parts broken from the factory, including cracked slides and broken beavertail safeties
>MIM parts that really really need to be forged, because they're high-stress or high-wear (thumb safety, takedown lever, the fucking ejector, the hammer itself)
>barrels with pitting and chatter that should've never passed QC
What's worse, they got their reputation as a target pistol. They had been one of the better entry-level bullseye guns. And their current-production accuracy is SHIT. Like worse than RIA GI shit.

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>>33253752
Handguns suck balls, put a stock on it and an auto sear.

Plenty offensive then.

>>33258283

Kimbers...

Kimber started out as providing "custom" guns in a production format. Basically, they did all the common shit gunsmiths would do, except they did it at the factory. So, people went holy shit. The company expanded. High-profile users adopt it (LAPD SWAT, Metro, SIS).

Cohen takes over, and pushes the "lifestyle" gun hard. Focus shifts to lots of unique models. QC declines because they're trying to mass-produce stuff that really needs hand-fitting. They adopt a stupid firing pin safety (the Swartz system). Fudds love them, serious users shun them. Bullshit happens like untreated barrels rusting.

Recent QC has supposedly been OK. If you're going to go Kimber, my suggestion would be to buy a 5" gun (their micro guns and bushingless 4" guns are more failure-prone -- a 5" gun gives you the best shot at reliability, regardless of the manufacturer; close second is a true 4.25" commander). Something like a Custom II or TLR II. Have a smith do a reliability job down the road and you should have a fine pistol. Do not buy the pistol sight unseen; inspect the thing. Look for obvious machining errors/marks, look for rust. Learn to check the pistol for proper function.

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>>33258348
>And their current-production accuracy is SHIT. Like worse than RIA GI shit.
Jesus Christ.

Well thanks very much for all the info, hope you stick around this shithole board for a bit longer so I can annoy you with more questions later.

>>33258336
Interdasting.

Can I keep picking your brain?

So I used to have an entry level Lee progressive press, I was insanely disappointed with the quality (it broke day one (the shit plastic rod that made it rotate "progressively")- maybe I misused it but fucking christ))

What is a progressive press centered around pistols worth looking into.

And, if you don't mind, share your wizard skills lon coated hard cast because I have no idea what that is.

If you tell me to fuck off and google I will but I love verbatim information imputation.

sorry for errant spelling/grammar - slamfire posting from a half busted keyboard

>>33258169
That seems odd. I literally ordered another one last week.

>>33258336
Is there an issue with lead exposure with those?

>>33258395

I'm not the guy you want to talk to. It's this >>33258279 guy you want. I'm the dude who only started loading in November.

But yeah, I can verify that both plated and coated hard cast (Bayou Bullets, etc.) work fine in polygonal. My suggestions are:
a) Find a reloading manual;
b) Look at what high-volume USPSA shooters are doing (they're pretty good for finding cost-effective loads that make power factor/accuracy requirements); and
c) Talk to somebody with experience, like the guy you were trying to talk to.

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>>33258369
>shoot someone in the high thoracic cavity/brain stem
>modern defensive handguns rounds now kill every 2 legged predator guaranteed, every time, dead-right-there

In every single martial discipline there is a period of time where hardware is blamed for software failures, we are finally passing the apex of this anomaly with pistol ballistics.

>>33258397
what gun model? I'm trying for the P30L - bit of a snowflake for AIWB w/ WML

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>>33258381
Will do. Thanks for the advice.

>>33258411

A slight one, yes. Mitigate that by washing up, just as you should be with any other lead exposure (like shooting indoors -- most lead bullets you're firing are not completely coated). They make lead hand wipes and special soap if you're truly concerned.

Seriously, I worked 4 days a week as a RSO at a range for over two years. My lead levels actually went down over that time. Cleanliness works.

>>33258427
That could be it I guess. Mine was for a G34.

>>33258441

> most lead bullets you're firing are not completely coated

*most JACKETED lead bullets

>>33258416
Looks like if I can slow down my shooting reps enough to eek out some cash for a reloading set up I might get some mileage out of this, 0.11 vs 0.19-0.22 is a complete game changer - I would theoretically be able to shoot around 1,400 rounds a week...that makes my dick hard as diamonds

>>33258448

If you're who I think you are, pay attention to what LittleLebowski and Les Pepperoni are posting in the reloading section of the forum. Both have good info.

>>33258326
Coated bullets are fine in poly barrels. So are plated bullets.

Hell honestly as long as you clean it regularly you can shoot plain lead, but accuracy isn't really there.

You want a load that I'd shoot through a poly gun?
>Berry's 115gr plated FP
7.2 cents each when buying by the 1000 off PV
>range scavenge brass
Free, get on your knees boy.
>cheapest SPP you can find
currently either Unis Ginex (serbshit I have no experience with) or Fiocchi at 2.3 cents each before shipping
>around 3gr of Titegroup will produce 1000fps from a 5" barrel, enough to cycle every 9x19 pistol made
I've gotten away with as low as 1.8gr behind a 124gr plated bullet, cycles all my 9mm pistols just fine even if the velocity is in the tank. But anyway, buying 48lbs at a go to minimize hazmat hurt you're looking at just under half a cent a round ($127.50*4 plus $25 hazmat plus ~$20 in shipping so call it $555 for 48lbs in powder or 336,000gr). Even my 9mmMajor loads, throwing a 124gr bullet at over 1350fps, use less than a cent in powder.
Right at 10 cents a round give or take half a penny for differing shipping costs.

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>>33258459
I am and you are a golden god, haven't ever stuck my head in there yet but will be focusing in after my big move here.

>>33258438

Also, with all of that said, be aware that you're probably going to want to upgrade most of the MIM'd internals on the Kimber. Lower-end Springfields rely heavily on MIM as well, but their MIM'ing is typically better.

Between a Kimber TLR II (the LAPD SWAT gun) and a Springfield Loaded, I'd take the Springer and run. I think you ought to look at the Marine Corps Operator as a good middle of the road pistol. Ugly as fuck green railed frame (color can be fixed if you want), but it has front strap texturing, G10 grips, ambi safety, night sights that are actually pretty good, and a rail (which I think looks dumb on 1911s, but this is the WML thread). It's a feature-rich pistol that's a far better base for later work if you choose to do that, and even if you don't it has a much better reputation than anything Kimber's putting out -- at a comparable price point.

>>33258476
It's feel wrong to have PF and 4chan worlds colliding.
It seems....unclean.

>>33258485

There are at least three of us in this thread.

>>33258461
Oh, also. Use the reloading sections on the various ammo search engines. I just found 124gr Berry's plated bullets for 6.3c each shipped on Widener's that way.

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>>33255182
lol

>>33258485
>>33258493

I'm the 3rd of us. Is it weird that I find ARFcom more disgusting, revolting and off-putting than here?

>>33258485
>>33258493
>>33258509

Also this is basically the a /wml/ general is about the only way to get a decent pistol general thread going here, for whatever reason. I've been dipping my toes in the water for weeks and this is the format that nets quality input without having to bait or deceive

>>33258482
Do you think the m45a1 is worth that ridiculous pricetag, or is it something that could be a serious buy later down the road?

>>33256052
That gun grip absolutely destroys my manlet hands. Thankfully it wasn't mine but it was a nice gun.

>>33258509

I've never ventured outside of the EE section so I couldn't say. Spent some time on m4carbine though, and I found that to be pretty terrible. 40-something HR workers pretending to be commandos, the cult of the SME... If arfcom is comparable, I think I'll stay in the EE.

>>33258528

I'd buy the Colt Combat Unit, which is the same gun except cheaper and not tan.

They're solid pistols.

>>33258539
>I've never ventured outside of the EE section so I couldn't say

That is probably the best decision you have made in your firearm-related life

>>33258509
Not even /arg/ can stand Arfcom. It's a place where everything is praised and everyone gets a pat on the back and any sort of criticism is met with backlash. ESPECIALLY if you critique the products of a major donor, then expect a ban.

For those that want to be superjews with pistol ammo, look into doing your own bullet casting and powdercoating.

Current going rate for range scavenged lead that's been fluxed and smelted into ingots is $1.25 per pound shipped, typically 60lbs to a USPS flat-rate box. This means that once you buy or make a smelting pot and buy a 6-cavity mold you're only on the hook for 2 cents per 115gr 9mm bullet to cast them, and IF you feel like powdercoating them it's a small fraction of a cent to do so (1lb of vinyl-based powdercoat will do tens of thousands of bullets using the dry tumble method).

But it is time consuming. This is probably the least return on time and effort in reloading, and the reason I went back to storebought bullets for pistol (I do still cast for subsonic .30cal rifle and a couple antique/obsolete calibers, but that's low volume shooting for me). It got to the point where I was shooting enough that 5 hours' worth of casting didn't produce a week's worth of bullets.

>>33258482
>MC Operator
>ugly as fuck green
Old Snake didn't think so and neither do I, but opinions.

>>33258509
ARFCOM/AK Files is full of old semi-fudds who are all of the same mindset as the types of people who hang out on AR-15 Gun Owners of America and Uncle Sam's Misguided Children on Facebook showing off their PSA Freedom line AR "custom builds." Fuck 'em. The only thing they're good for is the nuggets of useful info you'll find buried under mountains of bullshit, and the super-cheap high-end shit you can grab off EE when they inevitably need to sell off all their stuff before their 2nd or 3rd wife divorces them. If we could just get /bsg/ going on the regular here, I'd never need to go back.

>>33258569
This.

I got permabanned from arfcom during Mark Larue's temper tantrum because someone asked my honest opinion on whether his red dot mounts were a good value in a separate thread. I recommended ADM instead and was banned within 5 minutes.

>>33258569
We have occasional threads that are nothing but posters showing the worst abortions they can find on there. AR15.com is a great example of why constructive bullying is a good thing.
>>33258577
>AKfiles
Literally one of the single shittiest places on the internet when it comes to discussing guns. It surpasses Barfcom in its unadulterated retardation and is only matched by M4C.net.

>>33258529
Did you try the flat backstrap?

Gun was basically unusable for me with the fat straps
>5'10 135 skelelel
but it's one of the most perfect grips I've used with the flat one. But I've also got weird hands and really prefer fat grips

>>33258597
The crazy thing is I remember when there was a time when ARFCOM had decent info and M4C had even more info.

Maybe I was just imagining it.

AK Files has never been good outside of Marketplace. AK Forum absolutely demolishes it in terms of pure quality and subject knowledge.

I'm tempted to join P&S, but at the same time I'm just some nerd who has no friends and thus spends all his disposable income on guns he's not that good with, so I think I'd be really obviously out of place there.

>>33258586

Wasn't there some sort of dust-up between Larry Vickers and arfcom a few years back? Something about printer repair guys claiming to be experts. That might have been m4carbine, I dunno -- I just remember laughing at Vickers about it because of how insecure he came off as.

P.S.: For an easy ban, go to m4carbine and verbalize that you've shopped anywhere other than G&R Tactical. It's fun.

>>33258612
Regarding Vickers- you've been warned.

>>33255335
>MEME
Seriously guys, these things are reliable. It's the most infuriating thing about them.

>>33258610

P&S weirds me out. I have an account I treat as read-only there because I've really got nothing to contribute, but from what I see:
- A group of really experienced guys sharing their knowledge;
- A very large group of "operator by association" types who get off by hanging around former action guys. Runs the gamut from patrol cops asking about NVGs to middle-aged guys wanting MAWLs because all the cool kids have them.
- That wannabe international man of mystery dipshit voodoo_man shilling his blog

So yeah, some occasionally relevant info for me, but that's about it. Roland on the modcasts is entertaining as fuck though. Too bad he got drunk and shot his father in law.

>>33254914
Daily reminder that that's not what gray man means. Gray man means that you look like a normie civilian, not the totallynottryingtooperate series by 5.11

>>33256027
> Spends HK dollas on HK
> Buys neoprene holster

>>33258624
>A very large group of "operator by association" types who get off by hanging around former action guys.

That's basically how I see myself, minus the "hanging around former action guys" bit. I won't lie, I've got no NV capabilities at all, nor any need to, but I saw the civilian MAWL this week and suddenly wanted to change that.

I do admit I'm very much high drag low speed though. I just like knowing I'm buying quality items that'll hold their value and have predictable, repeatable performance. There's that whole saying about it being the indian and not the arrow, but I figure if I know the arrow is 100% squared away, it narrows down the possible failure points.

>>33256095
They don't even do it right, they think dressing up like CIA 2big4u is blending in lol

>>33255516
What are those on the front?

>>33258612
>I just remember laughing at Vickers about it because of how insecure he came off as.

His Youtube videos permeate that, also I have no idea why people take him seriously

I watch his slow mo shots of pistol recoil and as a 180 LB 6'1" lanklet I have more grip strength and better control than him kek

>>33258637
lol, I'm running into more and more people like that. I know a guy who has a PS90 under his desk and an M&P-15 in a "go bag" in his car and constantly chirps about how he's fired shots in anger and he'll use the gray man concept to make himself look important enough to get away with anything in WROL scenarios. I personally think his picture will be on a BLM protest sign before he gets to 40.

Oh, and the PS90 has a fucking Wal-Mart sight duct-taped to the top, but he feels qualified to talk about how I waste my money on Aimpoints. wew lad

>>33258644
the fuck is happening in that webm?

>Why go there? To drink neo-con kool aid and participate in political discussions with high school dropout jesus fags and trust fund fly-overs?
On the bright side, if you're ever pressed for money, have someone laser Punisher skulls on everything you can and you'll make your money back there in no time.

>>33258624
>P&S weirds me out. I have an account I treat as read-only there because I've really got nothing to contribute, but from what I see:
>- A group of really experienced guys sharing their knowledge;
>- A very large group of "operator by association" types who get off by hanging around former action guys. Runs the gamut from patrol cops asking about NVGs to middle-aged guys wanting MAWLs because all the cool kids have them.
>- That wannabe international man of mystery dipshit voodoo_man shilling his blog


Everything you just described is insanely off putting as a self defense focused pistol shooter who sees handguns as modern martial arts

Probably a stupid post because I'm not communicating any info or being useful but I just had to comment, huge fucking cringe

>>33258671
Texas Black Rifle Co compensators. They're basically alternatives to the KKM barrel + comp combo for people who already own 1/2x28 threaded barrels for suppressor use (the KKM Roland barrels and comps use a proprietary thread pitch).

>>33258636

There's a difference between buying quality gear and deluding yourself into this whole "I regularly converse with a guy from DELTA FORCE therefore I'm like, almost one of them."

You wanna buy NVGs and go hunt hogs or whatever the fuck people hunt at night, go for it. I'm not gonna say you shouldn't do that if you've got the money and the desire.

I'll illustrate with an example drawn from one of the modcasts:

Roland was talking about using an MP5SD overseas, and on a tangent he mentions that lots of SWAT guys are talking about using the things for "sentry elimination" and dogs such, and breaks down and he's like, why the fuck is that even in your lexicon? If you're kicking in doors serving warrants, you don't do "sentry elimination." It's a totally foreign (and illegal) concept for domestic law enforcement, way the fuck outside your job description. Nevertheless, the guys on these teams pick this shit up and convince themselves that's the need for the guns because they've been absorbing the info from former military guys and trying to emulate that.

---

A patrol cop, which is what that Matt Prime dude who runs the place is, has zero need for NVG capability stemming from his duties. I suppose he could use it for HD if he wants to come across like the fucking Predator to any potential grand jury investigating his case, but it's way the fuck outside his role. If he wants to get into it as a hobby thing or whatever, go play in some shoothouses down at DARC? Awesome, rock on, go have fun at summer camp Matt Prime. I have no issue with that. But call it what it is: a fucking hobby. He's not some sort of former operator, he's a guy chasing a radio doing domestics and stuff.

My issue is the image people like that project. They hang around these former Delta/SEAL/whoever guys and, because they've got the "approval" of dudes who lived out their fantasies, they're somehow comparable to those dudes.

>>33258676
>brazil
>undercover cop in bank line
>robber ambushes him with gun
>cop throws down distraction device (his dosh)
>uses fucktoy women as concealment and draws
>counter ambush

>>33258676
>the fuck is happening in that webm?
Looks like an attempted armed robbery. I'm pretty sure black dude has a knife or pistol. Hard to tell in the fraction of a second that it is visible.

>>33258701
Lot of truth here.

>>33258701
>Roland was talking about using an MP5SD overseas

I made it exactly 6 words in to that paragraph before I bailed

I will never ever visit or read a single post from that site, exceptions being stuff copy pasta'd here for amusement

I admit, I have some seriously off putting personality flaws, but this is insane.

>>33258737

For reference, "Roland" is a former Delta guy who's semi-famous for shooting his new wife's dad last month while at a .25+ BAC. He's one of that small group over there with real world experience who's out there sharing what they know, or at least getting drunk and telling some funny stories.

>>33257282
other than wanting a .45 glock not really

>>33257332
awesome good to know

>>33257376
excellent, thank you

>>33258701
Fair enough, I agree on almost all points.

As a civilian, on paper, I own guns for defense of life and liberty. In reality, I know full well it's mostly for my own amusement, with some crossover into "this will make you hard to kill, should it come to that" territory. I feel like a lot of people get so wrapped up in the tacticool scene that they forget they fall in the same boat too. Lot of people out there who traded in their sense of humor for a pair of 5.11s.

>>33258715
Could've just said >brazil, but thanks for the full explanation.

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>>33257760
p07 brofist. i just got a t-rex raptor holster for mine and it shoots & carries great.

this also replaced my g19 that i am considering turning into le roland special down the line. either that, or just stick ameriglo i-dots on it and keep it as a spare, able beater pistol. wat do?

>>33258760
This is comedy gold

not that I'm l33t or a fighter - I'm actually just an amoral, sociopathic nihilist coward. All that said I'd love for some dumb mall ninja to bow up on me with his operator gear so I could bill drill the fuck outta him.

>>33258719
looks like a gun from the flash near the end

>>33258829

>As a civilian, on paper, I own guns for defense of life and liberty.

Totally respectable. I guess the TL;DR version of all of this is that perspective's pretty important here.

I go to work in a non-gun toting profession five days a week, go out on the weekends and do dumb shit, and start the whole process over again on Mondays. At various times during then I carry a gun around in case I need to shoot somebody. Thus, for that "role," I probably don't need a three-day course on small unit tactics and CQB and my disposable income is probably better spent on beer and pistol shit than NVGs and IR lasers and, if I do decide to go through a mid-life crisis and get into those things, I should do it with the full understanding that, at the end of the day, I'm buying (expensive) toys and taking them to summer camp for a few days. Now, were I a Ranger preparing for deployment, maybe an advanced course on NVGs might be more in my wheelhouse. Perspective matters.

>>33258625
I don't give two fucks about fitting some grey man profile, but that's a pair of [not 5.11] khakis, a tucked in polo/golf shirt from under armor and a non-tactical soft shell with a caterpillar logo on it. Nothing about that screams tactical. Not all of us dress like sloppy hourly wagers.

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>>33258629
yeah I deserve to get memed on for that. In my defense I'm really just testing it out. I have some nice holsters for it, I just got bored at work and frankenstiened this holster together. Gotta say though, for appendix it is very comfy and provides great retention.

>>33258644


My god... They've become /arg/...

>>33259068
welcome to cancer

>>33259068
they (ARFcom) CREATED /arg/

seriously flush that whole containment board, flush them all, they are literally beanie baby hoarding spinster tier materialists, wow you own piles of expensive garbage you suck at using or understanding, super impressive.

I know, I know, /k/ is not some mall ninja shooting factory..But these fucking scumbag moron breeder/buyer/hoarders are a plague on reality - not just /k/.

Shooting is a martial skill, if the martial part is not your primary focus I think you are a worthless sack of shit and I would legit shoot you in the brain stem to remove your DNA from the gene pool if I could get away with it

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>>33259125
>they (ARFcom) CREATED /arg/

>seriously flush that whole containment board, flush them all, they are literally beanie baby hoarding spinster tier materialists, wow you own piles of expensive garbage you suck at using or understanding, super impressive.

>I know, I know, /k/ is not some mall ninja shooting factory..But these fucking scumbag moron breeder/buyer/hoarders are a plague on reality - not just /k/.

1000% agree and now we have sperglords coming in and blog posting from other forums >>33258764

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>>33259204
Oh zing so tongue and cheek and clever, you are so witty and you contributions here so meaningful!

Is this your life? is this what gives you meaning? damn nigga, I thought I was one dimensional.

>>33258981
can you post moar pics of that px4 with sc1 on there plox?

>>33259267
is this video satire? carnikon?

>>33259276
yepper 8 alphas to the body and 4 alphas to the head on two targets from the holster with a slide lock reload in between in 7 seconds is satire ;)

I'm sure you can do that all day with your off hand while shitposting on /k/ with your primary ;)

>>33259294
The video is clearly sped up and he is goofing around right? is this a youtube skit? who is it?

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>>33259276

Night faggot, sleep on it and question your value, protip, you have none

>>33259308
The WebM rep starts at 1:49 ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AMKSaRbH38

>>33259315
Wait lol is this you? Is this a serious video?

Now I see why it looks sped up. it is recorded at a very low frame-rate so it makes movement look funky.

>>33259267
>>33259315

Fuck me /ohg/ I hope I didn't spoil this whole thread last night...

I'm going to patent an interlock system for keyboards...

SORRY M8s

>>33259322
>Wait lol is this you? Is this a serious video?

yeah pretty sure it's going to be the next or the following DOTW - I left it in you-know-whos hands to dial in finalize the rules but I run it as all A's or DQ w/ 7 second par time

>>33259322
>>33259961

Sweet, it's up guys

https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?24726-Week-207-Hyper-Mozambique

>>33254914
> dat print.
WOW SO HIDDEN.

>>33258715
Thanks man. I watched that webm a couple times, never even noticed he had a firearm in hand. Just thought it was some sperg white guy being like "Please don't touch me, Mr Melanin." dropping his stuff then "HAHA THEY'LL LET ME BACK INTO THE KK NOW!" *pew pew pew*

>>33261606
You should check out "Active Self Protection" It's a youtube channel that breaks down shootings/fights with good points.

A huge concept to get on board with is the "counter ambush" and "don't draw on a drawn gun"

>>33261557
Was giving a worst case scenario hunching/squatting and pulling the jacket tight. Doesn't print that bad considering the amount of shit on the belt line. Not like it's an EDC rig.

>>33254642
>rape whistle
really anon

>>33262924
so gay

>>33253890
Does the tape prevent it from getting mushy?

>>33255516
Yo Dawg, I heard you like sights.

>>33256027
What did your penis ever do to you to appendix carry in a shit tier holster?

>>33256269

I kind of want to get a glock now just for that mount.

>>33262924
>designed to excel in low light conditions
>top venting compensator on a short barrel
Pick one

Where can I find a near-infrared L.A.S.E.R. with the following capabilities?

>battery powered, removable or rechargeable
>Picatinny/MIL-STD-1913 rail compatibility
>form factor suitable for a full-size pistol
>momentary and constant on functions
>withstand in excess of 5.3 ft-lbs of recoil
>environmentally sealed per MIL-STD-810
>establish and maintain precise zero

Thank you, gentlemen.

>>33254914
You are wearing the definition of "hey guys im a concealed carrier"

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>>33255675
Just ordered a Crux Saxon 9 and a threaded barrel for mine.

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>>33265502
>Just ordered a Crux Saxon 9 and a threaded barrel

I'm the guy you (You)d shit you just reminded me my can has been in jail for like 280 days now...I gotta get a threaded barrel inbound, where did you grab yours?

>>33256313
Ospreys are so close to aesthetic, they need to be more snug against the slide and they'll be there as the ultimate coolboi silencer.

>>33265502
Do some research on whether or not the recoil assemblies are cool with suppressors.

There was a HK forum guy who bought a threaded barrel for his USP and ended up destroying his slide by not using the USP tactical recoil assembly.

He confirmed this with HK and their position was "if you want to shoot suppressed the standard recoil assembly is not viable."

Not sure if it's the same for their other models or just the USP but they're close enough that I think it'd be worth some research.

T. Helpful Anon

>>33258348
>>33258388
>worse than RIA GI shit.
I have one, what the hell is wrong with it? I get really nice groups with it

>>33255329
duluth bro

>>33257786
get an fde u-b. Also, sell me your current light for cheap.

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>>33265671

>>33262924
Ayyy another WAfag.

>>33262945
It's to help the rapist realize that instead of raping me, he should be going over the top with the other lads.

>>33266556
Current light has a normal home on my FDE FNP-9, which has a holster spec'd for itself and the APL.

I am tempted to get the FDE U-boat because Roy at Weapon Outfitters has an aesthetic-as-fuck Fauxland Special, but I'm not sure how I feel about not keeping my guns all one color.

>>33257356
double stack with a light rail

>>33257367
was already interested in Sigs, just seeing if there are any other widely praised options. probably gonna end up with a compact, but if I get a nice holster I won't need a subcompact.
Want something that will shoot nicely, soak up daily wear and tear and still be fun to shoot

>>33269314
M&P or M&P 2.0 with an Apex DCAEK installed is pretty damn solid as far as budget options go.

VP9 might be worth considering too.

>>33266319
Absolutely nothing for its price point, absolutely nothing from a carry or plinking perspective.

But it is not a bullseye pistol, it's not marketed as such and it doesn't cost enough.

The Kimber is.

>>33269327
>VP9 might be worth considering too
I dont know why. This gun confuses me. Mid sized that carries like a full size but has the capacity of a compact.

>>33271926
you're confused because you are stupid and wrong. it is a full size gun.

>>33255182
Dis my glawk fowty.
*flags cameraman*
Dis mah problem solvah, right chuh...

>>33271964
>4.09" barrel
>full size
Kek no

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Not pictured is my galco shoulder rig and surefire, but I fucking love the way my guns look

Looking to buy a full size 9mm, but I'm in cuckafornia so I'm limited on choices. I'm trying to decide between a Sig p226 or a HK USP, any thoughts?
It'll be for home defense and maybe IDPA

>>33265282
Really? None of that is tactical. It's a pair of khakis, a tucked in golf polo and a non-gucci soft shell jacket. Not everyone dresses like a sloppy tween you know.

>>33275067
/k/ thinks anything but graphic tee's and jeans is tacticool

>>33275078
Given the average age range here I guess it might make sense. Khakis and a tucked in polo is pretty fucking common dress among adults though.

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>this whole fucking thread

>>33256715
Quitting smoking causes lung cancer, FYI.

>>33275001
S&W 929

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Waiting on my slide to come come back from the mill so I can mount an RMR

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>>33253972
Fellow MK23 Buddy!

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>>33279018
That said I recently did get a Suarez Tactical slide with a TiN Match Barrel and a Deltapro site. Tried it for the first time today and it shot amazing. I'm a firm believe in the RDS handgun now.

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>>33279039
>suarez

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Here's my carry peice, have a flush 15rd as well.

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Added a Vickers slide stop and Overwatch Precision TAC trigger today, which was my first foray into kitchen table gunsmithing. I am legitimately in awe at how stupid simple the Glock internals are.

>>33278502
Impatience is part of why I went with the MOS. That, and if Aimpoint ever comes to the party and kicks the RMR off the top spot for MRDS, hopefully Glock will have a new mounting plate ready to go for the system instead of forcing me to buy another gun and have another slide milled.

What RMR are you getting? I've got an RM06, friend has an RM09. I like the RM06 a bit better, personally.

>>33279039
>Suarez
>Delta Point Pro
Swing and a miss. C'mon, you're not a poorfag, why fall for the memeshop brand and settle for second best MRDS?

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Top this faggots.

>>33279212
Hey! Thats illegal down unda!

>>33255516
is the one on the left a g43?

>>33254914
exactly how many times did you watch 'the veteran'

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>>33256631
FFS JUST SHUT THE FOOK UP, we get it your mad because someone else is mad.go make a thread about being mad at mad people or something and stop ruining this thread

>>33280526
>houge grips

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>>33280721

I know, I know. These came with it, wasn't really a fan of the way they looked and felt. I'll probably get something else down the line, any good sites for aftermarket beretta grips?

I really want to build a Roland Special or similar build but I have like 5,000 rounds thru my CZ-SP01 and I feel like it's ruined all other handguns for me. Whenever I shoot a Glock I end up inducing slide lock with my high grip and I can never seem to get it to group well even with a aftermarket trigger and I have a harder time tracking the sights under recoil. Would a Roland Special make the transition from a CZ to a Glock easier or more difficult than a stock Glock. I would just stick with the C if there was a way to put a comp on it and there was a way to mill it for an RMR.

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glock 19 offense for manlet

>>33280721
i have some of those on my 96. ugly but they certaintly are comfy

>>33275101

its common dress among people who want everyone around them to know they are an adult. if you aren't working or at a formal event why are you tucking in your fucking clothes

>>33253890
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF I want one of those and can't fucking find any near me to try out. I've been told they'd be just as comfy in my big hands as my 92 but I still want to fingerfuck one first.

>>33254914
>No one criticizes this setup

What the fuck are you doing with your mags. Why the fuck are they in such a stupid fucking order?

>>33253972
Are you offended yet?

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>>33268027

>>33257920
sperg - the post

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>>33253752
>Post your pistol+weapon light+ Gucci set ups for SHTF, riots, grey man shit

This is all I got so it will have to work, won't it?

>>33280755
>wasn't really a fan of the way they looked and felt
I don't like G10 shit either. Usually it looks fucking ugly IMO.

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>>33280755
https://www.mactecsales.com/BA0158_p/ba0158.htm
or maybe
http://shopwilsoncombat.com/Wilson-Combat-G10-Grips-ULTRA-THIN-with-WC-Logo-Black-Cherry-Beretta-92_96/productinfo/728%2DFS%2DUT%2DBC

>>33281285
>https://www.mactecsales.com/BA0158_p/ba0158.htm

>$130

Fucking why tho

>>33281239
you gotta have the 6-o'clock rifle mag so that when you fall on your back the impact is spread over a larger area of your spine

>>33281306
a e s t h e t i c s

>>33256715
Oooh I'm so angry and so tough.

You sound like a faggot.

>>33253877
looks like a glue gun

>>33280800
You can definitely do a Roland style setup on a CZ. Springer Precision makes a comp for one but I don't recall what model it's for. It's not like the TBRC comps people are using on Fauxlands are Glock-specific either.