gun cringe thread

>>33249378
Kinda looks cool in a disgusting way.

>>33249378

I absolutely refuse to believe this is real.

Probably an ad by some /k/arabinieri trying to troll some people.

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>>33249378
Here is the cringiest of em all.

>>33249378
I cannot for the life of me see the issue with this gun.
Looks like a fantastic shooter, I would love to own one.

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>>33249463
>http://www.mossberg.com/product/464-spx-centerfire-lever-action-rifle-41026/
It's real and it's coming. FOR YOU.

>>33249473
Besides shit ergonomics and aesthetics, it's a fine gun

>>33249378
It's okay.

>>33249463
It's made by mossberg

>>33249378
What a fucking monstrosity of a firearm. Mossberg what are you thinking

>>33249478
>>33249495

omfg
memo to self: never buy from mossberg

>>33249378
Really, the only thing wrong with it is that really awkward transition from the grip to the stock.
Fix that and it would be a fine rifle.

Whoever pitched that idea should be beaten with hammers before being disembowled with a wooden cooking spoon.

>can't hunt durr without muh walnut and blued steel

This is what you imbeciles sound like. I know what you are going to say in response:

>ackshually, we were just saying that the gun looks ugly!

The serrated polymer foregrip and adjustable rear stock both objectively improve the function of the gun AND lower the cost of the gun by replacing inferior components like a wooden stock that gets dings, scratches, and warps based on changes in humidity and temperature. It makes the gun better for everyone who isn't some dumb fudd who only takes it out of a safe to admire it.

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>>33249378
I don't know why, but I can't stand M4-style adjustable stocks on guns that don't have a buffer tube. I see them on PTR's, AK's, M1a's, you name it and it always looks fucking disgusting.

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>>33249484
>"besides the attributes that make it a glock it's a fine gun."

>>33249689
I feel dis

>that angle from stock buffer tube to hammer
god that looks so uncomfortable to get a sight picture with

>>33249689
it's not that bad on AKs to me, but I generally agree with you

>>33249683
the thing is, there's no reason to really use a lever gun other than "hey its a lever gun and they're fucking cool" or you have an attachment to it, for anything other than range toy, and as such, there is no improvement gained by these modifications.
a musket with an adjustable stock and picatinny rails is retarded not because of the fact that it has those mods, but because there's no reason to use it and therefore those mods are wasted.

>>33249712
But what if you just really want a lever gun that you can hang lights and shit on.

It's almost as if, gasp, taste is subjective.

How long until California and New York bans tactical assault high capacity lever action baby killing rifles?

It looks like it was tailor made just to look tacticool and scare noguns. Not seeing a compelling reason to get it over a normal 464 for $200 less.

>>33249378
lol

>>33249726
you can't make the argument that those mods make the gun objectively better then come back and say "well its better because taste differs"

>>33249712
>the thing is, there's no reason to really use a lever gun other than "hey its a lever gun and they're fucking cool" or you have an attachment to it, for anything other than range toy, and as such, there is no improvement gained by these modifications.
>a musket with an adjustable stock and picatinny rails is retarded not because of the fact that it has those mods, but because there's no reason to use it and therefore those mods are wasted.

Legal reasons. Wherever semi autos are too tightly regulated (like here in Europe but I assume some US states are the same) manual action guns are way easier to get. Lever action might IMO the best option for being able to fire "rapidly" (on par with pump, and better than bolt) while keeping your eyes on the target.

Plus some places ban semi autos for hunting so having the option for a cheaper lever action that's compatible with current accessories would be useful.

Sure it's not going to compete with AR 15s wherever they're easy to get, but it might turn a nice profit.

>>33249712
People still use Mosin Nagants, and they are relatively obsolete.
>inb4 /k/ gets triggered

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>>33249473

>>33249806
I can almost guarantee these were operator error

>>33249712
>the thing is, there's no reason to really use a lever gun other than "hey its a lever gun and they're fucking cool"

This is untrue. A lever gun:

1.) Can be chambered for larger and more powerful cartridges than any commonly available semi-automatic (Winchester 1886).

2.) Can also be chambered in a pistol caliber like .357 Magnum, allowing you to have a pistol and carbine that share ammunition, with none of the cycling problems that typically result from using anemic pistol ammunition in a semi-automatic carbine.

3.) Is simpler and easier to maintain than an AR.

4.) Is legal to own/hunt with in jurisdictions where an AR is not.

An AR is a damn good rifle, but just because it is a fantastic jack-of-all-trades does not mean that other rifles serve no purpose or have no reason to exist. Believing that is as asinine as believing that the only pistols that people should buy are Hi-Points and Glock clones.

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>>33249378
I kinda want one because of pic related.

>here, now try the scary black one

>>33249947
1) Wrong, you can easily get semi-autos chambered in 308 and 30-06, let alone magnum rifle rounds.
2) Semi auto carbines work just fine, it isn't the 1800s.
3) Lol.
4)
>California
>Relevant

>>33249703
That was the joke

>>33249712
> "No reason to use a lever gun"

My first/current deer rifle is a Winchester 30-30. I'm left handed so it is easier to handle than a scoped bolt action.

I mean...I love the feel of lever guns, my first was a win 30-30 and my current is a 94 .45 lc but I have never once felt the need to put lights and a foregrip and an adjustable stock on one.

As for easier to clean than an ar? You're either high or have never had to make sure you have your toolbox just to field strip the thing at the range.

Still though I get people admiring the lever gun at the range.

>>33249890
correct. the operator bought a plastic pistol form glock.

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>>33249947
>Can be chambered for larger and more powerful cartridges than any commonly available semi-automatic (Winchester 1886)

On a scale of 1 to 10 guess how retarded you are.

>>33249484
im an aestheti-fag

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>>33249473

>>33250742
My first thought as well

>>33249477
Mossberg made it, it probably shoots great it's just the platform is so pointless to make "tactical". That's what AR's and other 'salt rifles are for. No point in having a bunch of fancy schmancy itemms on your gun if it's being manually cycled with a lever.

>>33249495
To be fair, I got the regular 464, not the 464 spx, and it's actually a very enjoyable gun

>>33249473

not so much cringe as it is duck and cover

>>33249749
And there's a reason the people who bubba them get made fun of. I feel like Mossberg could have executed this gun better, imo it looks like a cheap bubba's dream in it's current look.

>>33249689
verious studies have shown, that the M4 stock is the best stock, from an ergonomical standpoint

>>33249378
I feel like this could have been a cool fudd gun but my god who ever did the ergonomics on this should have their eyes removed forcibly
>that ca compliant look alike grip
>that grip style
>the kink in the grip to stock

>>33249478
>black, 34" long

Mossberg knows what their countrymen desire. That's just good business.

>>33249712
I have no face for my nearest gun stor having the taticool musket often pictured

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>>33250742
fukken saved

>>33249727
After they ban magazines, semi automatic recievers, and optics

>>33249378

Fuck it, chiming in...

I own one of these, in fact, I bought one when they first cam out when the entire handguard was railed.

why? couple of reasons.

>Yes, it's lame, but I thought it would be an interesting piece, and in 20 years I could pull it out and tell people how obsessed we were with making everything "tactical".

>it was cheap. I think brand new it was was sub-$500, and without sounding like a prick, that wasn't a ton of money to me at the time.

Now, I have shot it, once. Here's the good stuff

>When you get it's stock sorted out, it's actually really comfy. It "throws" on my arm better than many of my other long guns.
>the sights are great. Hi-viz works, nothing new there.


Here's the bad stuff

>It's cheap. One of the screws for the cheek pad stripped out with very little adjustment. Metal screw, plastic hole...bad combo.
>kind of a shitty rifle. I'm a pretty decent shooter, but I was struggling to keep good groups off hand at about 25 yards.
>no top rail is 100% fucking retarded. Not even a removable section like some of the Smith revolvers. Sheer balls on mossbergs part
>I wish it was in 357 or 44. That would have been more fun, and maybe better for the home defense market. clearly mossberg just wanted to slap some plastic furniture on their existing 464 rifle, and not retool anything.

Anyway, I bought it as an oddity, because I guessed they would be cancelled in 6 months, and it would make a neat conversation piece.

>>33249463
Leverevolution

>>33249477
It's fucking ugly and looks uncomfortable as fuck compared to a classic lever action action

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This obsolete piece of shit

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>>33253314

>>33249712

Muh 45-70.

>>33250022
>assault musket
fukken saved

>>33253314
How is the 1911 obsolete?

>>33250742
change the 280 to 6 gorillian

>>33253762
it's obsolessent

Does the same old job well, but you have much better new options.

>>33253762
The 1911 is still a wonderful toy but it's built on antiquated design philosophies that are based on presumptions proved false.

>>33253809
Please go on, capacity aside I'm not sure what the issues are.

>>33253809
"presumptions proved false"

Like what?

>>33249947
>is simpler to maintain than an AR
noguns pls

>>33249473
>vey

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>>33249378

>>33252476
thanks for the honesty

>>33253831
>>33253834
>any pistol bullet besides maybe 10mm being any more powerful than any other
>7+1 is enough boolit
>grip safeties being anything but finicky
Not a bad gun by any stretch, the fact it's still a competent weapon speaks to Lord Browning's genius, but the desires and needs of pistoleers are much more considered, categorized, and catered to now than they ever were before and that gives us information we could not have gotten otherwise.

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>>33249378
This isn't exactly cringe, I just wanted to post this....

>>33253921
I'll give you grip safeties, gimmick at best, but I'm sure you can easily find a double stack 9mm 1911

>>33250263
>show up to range
>young, /fit/, man who is dressy casual
>place cc piece on table
>normal
>scary black rifle case that must be holding ar reveals glorious 30-30 marlin
>proceed to plink while receiving the most awkward stares
>zero fucks
>I love this rifle

More so than my ar or any other gun in my collection. It's just so damn fun to shoot. I just wish the feed gate wasn't so stiff. I've only probably put 60-80 rounds through it though.

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>>33253921
I can tell I probably wouldn't get along with you.

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>>33250774
I remember when this rifle first came out and showing a picture to my Dad. I believe it was the same time they came out with the chainsaw grip pump shotgun. They looked like they were made to appeal to the zombie apocalypse fanboys (some may have had a
Some sort of zombie logo too). If they made money off of it then they were successful anyhow.

>>33249712
>other than "hey its a lever gun and they're fucking cool"
It works good as a brush gun. As pointed bullets tend to deflect when shot though brush. And levers work can work with flatter nosed bullets. But really thats all I can Think about.

>>33253921
Are there any reported cases of grip safety failures?

I've put close to 1500 rounds through my xds in 9mm and have never had any issues. The extra safety is a large piece of my peace of mind of carrying 1 in the chamber on a no manual safety firearm.

>>33253948
Forgive me, I was specifically talking about the pistol designed by John Moses Browning. I'm autistic about these things, I'm only discussing the history of guns in their original form: 1911's in .45ACP, USP's in .40S&W, Glocks in 9mm, etc. If we're talking about the design paradigm then, yeah, it's still fine. Probably not amazing, an operatorman can find something that fits his tastes more specifically than a 1911 because a 1911 can only keep up at this point.

>>33253980
Or maybe you can be my bf :3

>>33254046
Everyone's hands are different, having something that can get so easily fucked by having the wrong shape of a hand is a risk. Much better to have a thumb safety.

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>>33253930
Looks like the 10mm pistol from fallout now that I look at it. Massive upper, bulky design, absolutely everywhere, and cheap

>>33254115
Oh wow didn't even notice it even has the same trigger

>>33251045
Kek

>>33254115
My God, imagine a 10mm Hi-Point in the future
>it weighs ten pounds unloaded
>the bore axis is so high it exists on another plane
>every time the slide blows back, there is a serious chance of it rocketing off the frame into your face
>if it does, Hi-Point still has the best warranty system and now the best medical insurance in the galaxy, your entire face will be chrome by the end of the week

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>>33249378

>>33253314
Personally I think the 1911 Is a wonderful, durable steel framed utility/tool that's versatile and fit for many different tasks expected from a standard handgun, and has maintained this reputation since it's induction into 20th century firearms.
A tried, true, and proven piece of hardware. Yes, there are definitely other options, but obsolete is far from the correct word.
I tried to make this sound as civilised, non fudd and sensible as possible without instigating an argument. Just my opinion.
T. Long time 1911 owner.

>>33254217
But you can already have a 10mm hi point. Just need a chamber reamer and take the plastic back out of the magazine.

>>33254252
that looks like the work of salient if im not mistaken

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>>33254252

>>33254297
That was my fisrt audible "ew"

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>>33254312

>>33254328
delte this now
This is almost as bad as that 1911 faggot in sf

>>33254328
I just noticed that this is acutally a MP38

>>33250774
>If it has a lever a flashlight doesn't illuminate anything
>If it has a lever one length is perfect for all shooters

>>33249484
t. Man whose hands got blown off suffering from Glockholm's Syndrome

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Saw one of these for sale on my local armslist for $150. I was really tempted to buy it but I didn't go for it. I might be able to find it, I doubt the guy could sell it.

>>33250495
>Either of those MGs
>common

>>33249378
It's like a Fudd and a mall ninja had an unholy union.

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>>33254828
What even is it?

>>33249477

>shitty cheap plastic that breaks everywhere
>destroyed the ergos of a slimline lever gun
>rails that are in stupid useless spots where you can't properly mount stuff, and none in the good spots.

All that shit all over it and there isn't even a rail for an optic. The railz on the forearm are too far back and too close to the magazine to be able to mount a light well. All that shit and the only things you could stick on it are a foregrip and a laser.

But yeah I'm sure it cycles real gud and stuff.

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>>33255050
It's an Armscor M1600, a direct clone of the M16A1 rifle. Maybe you should get your eyes checked anon, it has a perfect resemblance to that rifle.

Oh yeah, and they made an AK clone too, isn't it great? No one could tell the difference between a real vintage russian AK and their clone.

>>33255156
are these the guys who made a .22 stg 44

>>33255167
That was GSG. Armscor is a brazilian company.

>>33249683

>lower the cost of the gun by replacing inferior components like a wooden stock that gets dings, scratches, and warps based on changes in humidity and temperature.

I know you desperately want to sound smart, but shitty cheap plastic does not perform like fiberglass composite. It is inherently inferior to wood in almost every respect except weight and full on submersion in water. Also, dings and scratches don't matter to a guns function.

That stock is pure shit. Also, those rails are all in completely useless places. It is not a "serrated handguard."

Marlin produces excellent lever guns using synthetic stocks etc. That gun is just badly conceived. Cry about it.

>>33254658

Rails are in a shit spot for a light, or anything except a vfg or laser.

A short stock with spacers is a much better solution for LOP than that shit. Tell me with a straight face that looks comfortable.

I just want levers with threaded barrels so I don't have to take a special trip to the gunsmith.
Ohiofag, can only use straight wall to hunt, but can use suppressors.

>>33254852
>MG's HAHAHAHAHAHA
That PK is probably THE single most common btw
Until you can identify the larger weapon please leave

>>33254852
Only the PK is an mg. The bigger one is a 20mm Lahti AT rifle.

>>33250335
t. Fudd

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>>33249378
>tacticool lever action

At least do it right.

>>33254257
There's literally no reason to buy a 1911 unless you either a) really like 1911s, or b) you're an Open-fag and you want a $5,000 semi-custom racegun to shave .24678 seconds off your time.

Sure, it's barely adequate for the majority of things people use handguns for. But the only reason to choose one over modern pistols that are cheaper, lighter, simpler, higher capacity, chambered in a non-obsolete cartridges and most importantly, safer, is if you're a gigantic fanboy. M1911s are not very safe for carry or duty. They can fire when dropped, grip safety or no grip safety, because they don't have an adequate passive firing pin block. This has been proven in court multiple times. They have no objective advantage over any modern gun, and several serious deficiencies, most importantly the SAO trigger system, the single-stack magazine and the Fuddy-Five cartridge. Really, if there's one thing that's holding the 1911 back the most, it's the .45 ACP.

They're not bad guns. They're just old guns, and old guns that are limited by certain idiotic beliefs prevalent in US Ordnance when they were designed. Technology and best practices have moved on. Hell, John Browning himself designed the Browning Hi-Power as his perfect combat/defensive pistol, and that was a high-capacity 9mm.

>>33256780
I'd buy it, that's '80s as fuck. And it's a Calico, so nothing of value was lost anyway.

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>>33256808
Those rails still look cancerous. A single rail on top and some synthetic furniture is as tactical as a lever action should go.

>>33254418
How can you differentiate it?

>>33253859
kek

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Heard this bad boy wasn't posted yet

>>33252476
One of these in a revolver cartridge would be kind of cool. Decent for home defense and if the kept the rail on the front but just gave us a classic stock for a cheek rest. Also a top rail for red-dots or a scout scope.

>>33256808
Are these still for sale anywhere? What is the exact model for number for this?

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>>33249683
I just hate it because it looks ugly as shit. If you want a tacticool lever action for shits and giggles, it can be done much more tastefully.

>>33256808
That is an ok tactical lever though

>>33257293
>still posting that already ruined Mitchell's for free (you)s
Here's the free one

>>33249378
For a sec I thought even the front sight post has railz

>>33256808
That's okay actually. Optics Rail doesn't interfere with irons.
The railed handguard looks good enough but this is probably a better platform for a MLOK.

I'm more concerned with the lack of a threaded barrel desu. Lever guns are very good hosts for a can

>>33254328
It's just curled up for a nap right?

>>33254328
This made me sad.

>>33257293
Whoever just fucking painted a Mauser blue and put a brony sticker on it. I legitimately wish your ancestors your buried alive within the mass grave of a concentration camp and died of asphyxiation in WW2. For fuck sake man what a waste to such a beauty. 2nd Last bidder at a gun auction for a Mauser at a gun auction last year. Feels bad man...

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>>33257673
look closely. there's still a proof mark on the receiver.

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>>33257488
Yeah, anon. He'll be just fine.

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>>33253930

we can go further

>>33257726
Imagine putting a blade on the magazine.

Just look up SKS or Mosin on armslist and Cringe.

http://www.armslist.com/posts/6159541/portland-oregon-rifles-for-sale--mosin-m-44-in-archangel-stock

>>33249378
Hey, I think my Shadowrun character used that gun.

>>33249689
I don't even like them on ARs. Even the expensive ones always feel cheap to me. Fixed stocks are more comfortable anyway.

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Just saw this pop up on GB, that poor thing got rattle-can raped by someone who played too much call of duty.The fucker doesn't even know how to take a full picture of the gun and it's abomination of a paint job.

>>33254280
That sounds like a great way to remove your face!

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>>33254115
Bethesda cannot into guns.

>>33257726
Is that a fucking Tokarev

>>33258242
Honestly that paint job doesn't look too bad. But it's still Cowadoody camo.

>>33258353
Looks more like an FN Browning M1903.

>>33253997
God-damn. It is the stupidest fucking thing but I want one so badly. They are so much more expensive than a regular 590 (in Canada anyways) so I'll never bring myself to waste the money.

>>33258355
It's mostly the fact that in the description they are passing it off as coming from the factory with that paint job and that it was "offered in limited numbers," which is a downright lie.

>>33253949
Just loosen the feed gate screw a little bit, ya dingus. Those Marlins are relatively easy to troubleshoot

>>33257803
>not Russian
>Not an SKS, AK, mauser, enfield or arisaka
I hate this faggotry so much but it's on every fucking advert.