THE MADMAN

>>33242744
I hate that Karl got to record the Forgotten Weapons video.
It should have been done alone by Ian in the classical way,since this is the only time we will get this gun.
The camera work is so fucking bad.

>>33242859
But that other video was inrange.

>>33242744
Still waiting for a PSG-1.

>>33242744
Really neat he got to show a Walther, they where in every gun book I read in the 1980s as a young gun-nut growing up and how they where basically german unobtainium magical things. The engineering behind it is pretty damn bizarre for a service rifle of any type.

>>33243380
>pretty damn bizarre
Not really if you think about it,to me looks like extremely well machine shop working prototype that got pushed in production without thinking about the cost.

>>33243455
Or practicability.
Taking the bolt out looks painful.

>>33243488
Ian is a big guy

>>33243505
No he isn't.

>>33243455
Yeah, but imagine its 1985.
Back then we'd roll up to a range with a heavy barrelled bolt action in something like 308, big ol scope and that was sort of the 'pinnacle of accuracy' for us so to speak, but mechanically it was still early 1900's era technology. A semi-auto, in a 300WM- that was practically unthinkable at least from an accuracy point of view, so to have something like that actually working, then thrown into (limited) production and still putting pills downrange on target was fairly special for the time.

I'm probably the minority. But this gun is ugly as fuck and looks equally delicate.

Jesus, I knew the WA2000 was rare and expensive, but I didn't know it was $9k in 1988 expensive.

That's almost what a Honda Accord cost in the same year, so based on the current price of an Accord I'd say this gun would be at least $20k in 2017 dollars. (If it were sold new, obviously it's worth much more because of its rarity.)

>>33243455
I wonder if you could get similar results from an AR-10?

Do you think the parts' finished surfaces are ground?

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>tfw you will never get to hug a WA2000

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>>33243455
I was thinking the same thing. The whole thing is bar stock and plates. Very few specifically made components like you would find on production guns. You can even see how the gas block was welded together from two pieces of round stock.

>>33243455
>looks like extremely well machine shop working prototype that got pushed in production without thinking about the cost
Sort of what I'm thinking. Like they pushed out a few prototypes, they got offers for it, and just decided it was good enough. A lot of things could be simplified if the product were to have been matured, but who really knows if the market was going to wait for an answer from Walther especially when H&K was already cranking out PSG-1's for the same market.
>>33244428
>I wonder if you could get similar results from an AR-10?
Like the originals? Probably not.

>>33243516
He looks no taller than 5'10", and he's fairly skinny.

>>33244799
The fucking bar on the inside of the bottom tube that holds the handguard in place got me. What the fuck were they thinking with that? Allowing it to slide around like that? I get that it was never meant to be stripped to that extent out of an armory, but fuck, come on.

>>33244917
right?!

at least tack weld that bitch

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>>33242744
>it's a legitimate dragunov
>except it's chambered in .308

>>33244917
Really, what's more surprising is they were bought just like that.
Watching Ian's video has cleared up some of the mysticism about the rifles, but now brings up the question of who was dropping 9k for these rifles when clearly it wasn't a finished product

why hasn't anyone made Wa2000 clones?

>>33242744
Nice to know rifle is crap

>>33244958
Yuropoor governments scared shitless by Munich and wanting a semi auto sniper rifle.

People with more money than sense.

>>33244932
Or at least one more screw or something to hold it in place if you need to take it out for whatever reason. Which brings up another point

>PHILLIPS HEAD SCREWS
>FUCK WALTHER, WHAT ARE YOU? KEL-TEC?

>>33244958
Yeah, it really explains why this never really made it farm despite looking cool.

>>33244980
Cost of manufacture, Walther couldn't have been profiting too much on those things with all the sideplates and shit having to be precision machined.

>>33245026
but cheap 4 axis CNC mills exist now.

dozens of companies make their own AR pattern rifles from billet these days.

Wa2000 was made back in the dark ages.

>>33245026
the jews hadn't invented torx heads yet

>>33245002
>Yuropoor governments scared shitless by Munich and wanting a semi auto sniper rifle
H&K PSG-1 was produced like the same year. The WA-2000 came 10 years later. So again, who looked at this unfinished abomination and deemed it a better buy than the finished and cheaper PSG-1?

>>33244996
The rifle is about 45 years old you stupid faggot

>>33244428
>I wonder if you could get similar results from an AR-10?

You'd get far superior results in terms of accuracy, weight, maneuverability and cost. a 6.5creed AR10 with a free floated match barrel would shit all over this pos all day.

seems like walther and HK were both fond of the "make it really fucking heavy then it'll be accurate" mentality.

>>33243516
C-c-combo breaker

>>33242744
would SVD have fared better if it wasn't a gimped 308 and had better optics?

>>33242744

What kind of accuracy were these supposed to have from the factory? 0.5 moa or something?

>>33242744
>russians have this thing
>is actually chinese

>>33245503
.308 is 10x more accurate than shitty slav 7.62x54R, so no

>>33245887

You really don't know anything do you

Chinese made these rifles WITH russian tooling TO russian specifications

>>33245887

The chinks have always made russian guns better than the russians themselves.

>>33245059
And the specs for ARs are practically common knowledge while references are everywhere.that doesn't exist with the WA2000.

Closest you can get is a 10/22 kit.besides no way in hell a clone would be profitable

>>33245503
It would do better if it were actually a precision rifle

>>33243353
Hes already recorded it, teases it on his FB, but idk if he upped yet.

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>>33243990
The most recent sales pin them at upper 30ks-mid 40ks. Thread on arfcom says theres like 30 of them in the US and one guy owns half.

>yrw he dies and his kids turn them into a gun buyback for $25 gift cards to k-mart

>>33245026
>>PHILLIPS HEAD SCREWS

Those aren't phillips head screws you fucking mongoloid.

Next time you go to an air museum take a look at fasteners on the fuselage of older planes. 4 points. Look like Phillips.

>HURR WHY DID THE US PUT PHILLIPS HEAD SCREWS ON OUR AIRPLANES

Just because it has 4 points doesn't mean it's phillips.

>>33246098
That's because the Chinese were slaves
Whereas the Russians are drunken slaves.

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>>33246625
Sooo, even though he removes the side plate with a phillips head screwdriver it's not? Even if it's not technically phillips that doesn't detract from the fact that it's a precision rifle that has a receiver held together with screws.

>>33246532
>one guy owns half
More info on that motherfucker?

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>>33245078
The answer is almost no one except for a few civilians and a very small single digit number of German Police units. The PSG-1 caught on with CTs of the era. Although bullpup gucci police sniper rifles would comeback in the guise of the DSR-1.

>>33246757
He was the US importer for Walther or something like that

>>33246784
Where can I find those BMW's?

>>33242744
>ian shills for some ammo company

it's starting, isn't it? We give him over $5k a month and he makes plenty through his website and youtube but apparently it's not enough and he needs to put on a song and dance number for some company.

I wouldn't care if he said he buys it because it's good and he likes it, but he only mentioned the brand because they gave him a free box. Ian is a literal whore now, he's sullied his pure and honest name by shilling in his video.

>>33246532
>and one guy owns half.

WHY

>>33246625
>HURR WHY DID THE US PUT PHILLIPS HEAD SCREWS ON OUR AIRPLANES

dzus =/= screw

>>33243990
Not that crazy considering top of the line factory tactical rifles w/o glass go for 12K now. Fucking rail gun setups get close to luxury car territory with their fucking rain dance forged low expansion bronze allow base plates and blueprinting.

>>33246801
you donk....they are both Mercedes

>>33246834
It's german, square shaped, and it's pre 1990 in that pic, couldn't really tell

>>33246897
>Mistaking a 80s Mercedes gril for BMW kidneys.

>>33246813
>Why
Because rare guns are a solid investment.

A few decades ago you could buy WWII era Browning .50 caliber machine guns for cheap. Now they cost as much as a nice house.

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>>33246897
They both are beauties and good

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>>33246784
This is now a DSR thread

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>>33247078
honestly only know of this gun thanks to MGS4

>>33242744
God it looks so fucking sexy

>>33246801
>>33246897
>>33247053


>calling GLORIOUS W126 SERIES DAIMLERS, BMW's

just leave

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>>33247231
>>>33247053(You)
I didn't call it, I knew it was Mercedes-Benz, that's why I said both are beauties, BMW M3 E30 in my picture, and picture he replied to

>>33247078

>comparing bolt action to semi

???

didn't watch. which one had won the mud test this time, german or a romanian?

>>33245797
The factory test fire for their WA2000 was 1 moa

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>>33247705
You can watch safely.

>>33246805
We'll see. In context it was a logical thing to get high end factory stuff than try to load for rifle that you know little about.

>>33246532
cant we go /k/ommando and commandeer those guns. 15 /k/ommandos with moist nuggets and milsurp gear can do anything

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A dealer in germany actually sells one in .308.
Just 17.500€!

>>33249705
Its not that much considering adjusted for inflation should be around 28.000€

>>33249718
Agreed, if I was a richfag, I´d get it asap.

>>33245135
I wouldn't worry about it.

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I actually think Karl is pretty cool, especially now that he's gotten rid of that gross fucking beard.

>>33249793
I didn't like Karl at first, because in the first few InRange videos he acted like an aspergers riddled 4chan user. But he's grown on me as he has learned to hide his power level.

>>33249812
Yeah, he wasn't ready for primetime for a while.

>>33247097
>Yo I better but the emergency number on my gun so everyone knows I'm a good guy

>>33243737
Yeah, but where we're going, we won't need roads.

>>33244428
A modern AR10, set up right, would dance in circles around the WA2000

There's even ARs in .338

Shit won't be cheap, but cost way less than what the Walther retailed for new (what was it, literally over $9000 MSRP in the 80's?), the AR could do everything it does but better.

>>33250968
Key word here is modern.

>>33242744

Did what? Not shill out for once?

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>>33251068
>saying this about one of the rare videos where he actually blatantly shills a product

>>33251103
Which to be fair, is absolutely in context as Black Hills is legitimately very good match ammo

>>33251103
>thank you to Black Hills for providing this
you don't know what a shill is
a shill conceals that they work for or are paid by a company

if he discloses where it came from, then he, by definition, cannot be a shill

>>33251653
MAC go away.

>>33251706
nah, MAC is a shill because he doesn't disclose that he's getting money for reviewing shit

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>>33245503
This one - yes.

>>33244955
it appears he meant its serial number proves its pedigree, but that more recently it has been converted, for some reason.

>>33242744
Oh sweet I use to think the box look to it was ugly I didn't realize that was all basically just plates that come off. Suddenly looks a lot less ugly now that I know that.

>>33245074
Torx head bolts have been around since the late 60's

You fags need to stop sexually harassing Ian.

>>33246720
Is the TP3 what they use to screw together rotary engines?

>>33252011
you love it, ian

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>>33252011
Look at this man.
He is sex incarnate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6z1TXgr5b0
>the CIA did literally nothing wrong
I knew Karl was an autist but I didn't know he was this much of a bootlicker holy shit
>it's no different than concealed carry!
fuck you Karl. fuck you

>>33253011
In my eyes he is right even if Im not american.
You guys have to stop your leaks,other countries also have their on full wide monitoring programs and nobody is saying shit because it is internal and you are only exposing to information leaks for no reason.

Also Ian is prepping something about Nam for the upcoming episodes.

>>33253725
Are you saying that the problem is not the illegal unconstitutional actions of the government,
but that this information is becoming public knowledge?
Because, breh....

>>33253795
You guys are leaking vital operation names,numbers and tactics.
If you think there are no internal bodies that regulate the tapping then you are fooling yourself.
Its a shame that people jump to conclusions.

>>33253826
Ah, so you're another bootlicker. Got it.

>>33253839
Im not even American and I hate you with passion.
Some of you people are so stupid that not even your own intelligence agencies can save you.

>>33253846
>intelligence agencies saving anyone but themselves
all of my keks

>>33252647
I'm so happy my OC is finally taking off. Unless it's just one guy posting it over and over.

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>>33254155
I don't know, I've only posted it twice.
It's very nice.

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>>33243505
>Ian is a big guy

For you.

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>>33253826
>internal bodies that regulate

nigger who do you think those senate committees are made of? Oh, right, Dianna """"""Feinstien"""""" and other authoritarian dick sucks. They arnt doing oversight, they are the accomplices

>>33245929
Nice fuddlore

>>33242859
>hey i make youtube videos with this guy, but i should make my videos completely alone becaues purity of art.

seriously weird logic there mate

>>33246805
>We give him over $5k a month
Bro for running a business, traveling, and maintaining a home that's fucking NOTHING.

>>33254245
When are we finally rid of the Wicked Witch of the West?

>>33255524
He's right though. Watch a FW video from RIA or james julia. the fixed tripod camera he uses is better for this style of video. The camera work did not help
I'm not a karl hater but I think it would be a good idea for him to learn some camera skills and basic film making