Favorite Sword?

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I have a hard on for this one.

>>33240579
wwhy a rapier?

>>33240579
Naval cutlass for the small apartment times

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I've had my eyes on this for a little while- it's a tricky shape though and it'd be the first sword I'd have to make a sheath for, though that's kind of exciting.

There's also a Crusader Longsword I sort of want that's a bit more expensive, comes with a sheath but sheaths are usually garbage unless you shell out money for a custom one or make it yourself.

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>>33240552
No real favorite.. but I'm probably most fascinaded by the types that are almost completely unknown by normal people.. like roman swords that aren't short.

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>>33240806
... or two handed and bastard complex hilt types that came after long-swords and are mostly forgotten for some reason ...

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>>33240552
My current favorite that I own,VA Rhinelander.

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>>33241304
Favorite one I want and plan on buying sooner or later. Lutel Kraigsmesser. And/or Zombie Tools d'Capitan.

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there's something about the purity of proportion that I love about this one.

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>>33241304
>>33241317
And my grail sword, that I am not going to be able to afford any time in the distant future. Albion Doge.

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cut and thrust all day

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>>33240820
Their just so sexy. I never knew Arms and Armor made one. I've been eyeing up one made by Lutel based off the same sword.

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>>33240820
how would you fight with this? would you use it like a typical one-handed backsword or like a longsword?

>>33240610
It's a colichemarde smallsword though...

>>33240610
firstly, that's a smallsword, not a rapier

secondly, why NOT a rapier? rapiers are fucking dope.

>>33241425
most likely used the same techniques as the longer two-handed messers

>>33240552
By the way, this sword I posted is a persian shamshir, much better at cutting than a katana

>>33241388
rapiers can't cut well

>>33241607
sure you have to draw the cut, but it's a thrusting sword mainly and everyone knows the thrust is superior.

still, it can cut, and while still being built with thrusting in mind it is a cut and thrust sword.

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>>33240552
For when you can't konk your enemies with your tuba.

>>33241607
This is not a rapier, it's a bad translation. Besides, some can cut, it all depends on the actual example, but where there are extremes, some spanish blades for instance are much more cut&thrust-ish than what you would give for a typical rapier.

And besides, it's more useful to have the opportunity to deliver good thrusts than good cuts.

>>33241694
is there any real defining line between a sidesword and rapier, anyway?

>>33241703
Sideswords stays at your side while you're busy insulting the other guy, throwing your gloves around, saying the poor bastard is dead (anytime soon), waiting for the watch to break you.
Rapiers are used to kill people right before getting killed.
In both case you're probably fabulous.

But yeah not really, they are just swords, that's how they were called in the texts, swords, and that's what they ultimately are. Rapiers can have up to 4ft long blades though...

>>33241762
when i say sidesword, i don't mean a sword at your side, i mean a Spada de lato, sometimes called "cutting rapiers".

the ones Rodelleros used, and are frankly fucking frightening.

>>33241823
I'm just saying stupid stuff, I know what's a sidesword is (that's what Meyer is using for that matter).

I think that the difference between sideswords and rapiers is much more in the styles that evolved in the 16th century rather than in the weapons themselves.
Rapiers can tend to be thinner but it's not a hard line. The thing is in the early 16th century, styles were typically balanced cut&thrust methods and then, starting in the 1550's, the more you advance, the more the thrust is favored, so obviously, the thinner the swords get. The evolution is more pronounced in the styles than in the swords though. In m opinion of course.

Whatever, those are just swords, getting all messed up is a modern concern, they didn't bother as much as we do with those semantics.

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>>3324170
Yes there is a big difference

Rapiers are much longer, often 37" blades, or longer. They are almost completely for thrusting, they can cut, but just really surface slashes.

A Sidesword, and/or backsword (single edged), and or Cut&Thrust sword are much shorter, a typical one handed length (27-32ish), they are pretty balanced with cutting and thrusting performance. They pretty much are the Renaissance version of the Medieval arming sword. Pretty much just with a complex hilt.

>>33241901
idk m8, the sidesword is oftentimes called no more than the "cutting rapier" and is just a rapier with a less thin blade.
>A Sidesword, and/or backsword (single edged), and or Cut&Thrust sword are much shorter, a typical one handed length (27-32ish), source?

>>33241970
>>A Sidesword, and/or backsword (single edged), and or Cut&Thrust sword are much shorter, a typical one handed length (27-32ish), source?
>A Sidesword, and/or backsword (single edged), and or Cut&Thrust sword are much shorter, a typical one handed length (27-32ish)
source?

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>>33241388
I really like the style of some made by Cervenka...

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>>33242008

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there are only two types of swords: montantes, and swords for manlets, sailors, and horsemen

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>>33242022
*evades your first swing*
"hah, nothing personnel, landschneckt"
*thrusts into you, capitalizing on your slower recovery*
"i think we're done here"

>>33242130
>Meyer
>thrusting
Well... you could have put an image of Agrippa at least.

>>33242178
what do you mean m8 Meyer thrusts plenty

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>>33241970
>>33241987
No direct source, these are informal terms, just the general sense of things I see thrown around among sword enthusiast.

Keep in mind, a lot of sword categories are modern terms, back then they were really just swords. With some exceptions, the term Rapier was used historically.

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>>33241901
>Rapiers [snip] They are almost completely for thrusting, they can cut, but just really surface slashes.

That's bullshit.
you should know its bullshit.
stop parroting bullshit that people know fine well to be nonsense, please?

these are rapiers. if you think something like the one on the left is unable to cut, then you're in for a very unpleasant shock.

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>>33242264
It's a longsword meme, still, I couldn't let it pass.

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>>33242318
>unable to cut
Where did I say that? I did not, in fact I implicitly said "they can cut" you even quoted it.

What I say still holds true, Rapiers for the most part almost completely designed to thrust. That's what is going to kill your opponent, cuts are just going to be used when you can get them in to hinder your opponent, unless you are really lucky, you are not killing an opponent with a cut with a rapier.

Relatively speaking, they are not cutting swords, their ability to cut is very slight compared to most other swords, even more thrust oriented Longswords (like XVII) can out cut the average Rapier.

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You know why.

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>>33242429
Not the same guy but I would bet that the left rapier of the four posted earlier would be able to do more than
>just really surface slashes

Besides, the Ringeck is a type XV, not that it changes much though.

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>>33242458
you /singlestick/ m8?

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>>33242478
Yeah I'll admit, "surface cuts" are an understatement. A good slash could probably get to bone. Consider though that thicker fabric is actually pretty good at dampening cuts, I don't think a rapier, in a realistic fight (meaning no chances to deliver really heavy slashes), I really doubt it would leave more than a surface cut on an opponent wearing some sort of padded clothing.

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>>33242495
Alba gu bràth!

How do we make swords (and also guns) fashionable again?

>>33242953
Completely change the ideology of modern society... I would say, make the shit hit the fan, and then seeing swords, knives, machetes, and guns by peoples side would be more common.

>>33242953
I really wish OCing was fashionable, imagine everyone walking around with guns on their hips, celebrities wearing engraved 1911s in nice leather holsters to red carpet events and shit

>>33243113
man if only

imagine if i cool gun was one that had nice wooden grips and well-blued metal instead of just black and rails.

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might as well post mine

>>33243613

>tfw I unironically like black and rails

>>33244387
both are good but as a fan of brutalism I like black and rails more

>>33244453

I might like brutalist architecture if concrete didn't look like fucking shit once it's no longer brand new

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>>33244602
au contraire my good dude

>>33244672

Looks like fucking shit that will never be clean again because it won't

>>33244672
I bet you parkour fags love that shit

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I like the Chinese Sword look and design, I feel it can hold the balance between a katana and European sword

>>33244921
*runs away*
"heh, nothing personnel, kid"

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>>33240610
>It's not a rapier
>Implying it would be a bad choice anyway
What's wrong with you ?

I have a question, people have said that katanas back then had shit quality steel for material. How does a katana made with modern techniques and materials fare to the past?

>>33248336
>katanas back then had shit quality steel for material
They didn't, steel was good enough for the time period and mostly the technical level.
The whole point of the katana is the specific old techniques to make them and the need of it because of the peculiar materials, there's no reason to make a katana with modern dispositions, you might as well get a typical 19thc sabre...
But yeah, of course a modern blade will be superior to an ancient one, if there is the same level of skill and dedication put into it of course. Katana are interesting because they are peculiar, they are peculiar because the reason they are made their way is specific configuration of raw materials in Japan. Remove that and it's just another sabre... (and in the end it's just another sabre anyway)

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>>33240552
I really fucking wish someone would make a this IRL

I'd love a Gladius. They're one of the better swords out there for manlets like myself.

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>>33248407
A longsword with a complex hilt and a knuckle bow? It's out there, but typically, the bow only covers the leading hand.

>>33248374
I have a Master Replicas Force FX ESB Vader saber. I think it's from the second generation. It's actually a somewhat effective bludgeon.

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>>33248336
Modern industrial steel can be stronger than anything known before. There is no purpose for forge welding anymore outside of tradition and aesthetics.

>>33245389
The little dong on the end of the ching chong sword feels so wrong as you slong.

Did every civilization create the sword at some point in their history? As soon as a civilization learned metallurgy, was "metal" warfare soon to follow? Did everyone go "How do I make this club even more deadly? I know, let's make it sharp so the enemies bleed to death!"

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Old school cutlass.

>>33245389
round handle, tiny guard

enjoy having no edge alignment or fingers

>>33247768
sure, 2 handed short swords, I like my swords with heavy but no reach and a center of mass way out there

just get an axe

>>33248667
It's 2017 though, you don't need to study what's "best" swords-wise, only what's fun and interesting for you.

>>33248707
/toy/

>>33248488

that's kinda wrong. A gladius still weighs around 1kg.

>>33244182

is lighter, longer, and better suited for drawing cuts that don't require a lot of force. consequently, it has both more reach, and is effective at short range.

A gladius, given the nature of it's use requires quite a bit of raw strength.

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>>33248667
Don't hate.

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>>33248525
For some reason I feel the need to post something non Japanese for comparison...

>>33249577
not bad for clearing a path through bamboo forest

I bought a dues II from Zombie Tools (can't upload pic, so Google it). This thing is badass, & will muscle through anything. All your other shit is just pretty.

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>>33252975
I really want their d'Captian, it maybe the next sword I buy. I really like their Reaper as well, but other stuff from other companies is higher on my list.

>>33243167
what is this ? it looks good

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What do you guys think about the Filipino Kampilan?

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Kampilan hilts

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>>33255326
If I'm going Filipino, I'd prefer a ginunting.

>>33257567
To each their own. I just find the Kampilan's hilt really cool.