knife thread / knife general / kgt #79

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>>33237821
SEBENZA
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Fat mexican hands need not apply.

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>Post any dagger
>People call it an F-S

>>33237854
dirty south african peasants with shit HT need not apply either

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le bump

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Baump

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>>33237821
COME AT ME

Talk me out of a BK3. They are so mall ninja but something about the squared tip gets me hard.

Also considering a BK5 or 10.

Or if you know other good shit tell me to smarten up and get x

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>>33239869
It's cheap. Get it. You know you want to. Or get an Ontario SP 8.

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>>33239869
If you really feel like wasting money, you could get this instead.

>>33239599
>custon sheath included
>custon

How are those Ganzo knives, and is gear best legit/safe? Kinda really poor at the moment but I want to treat myself to a new knife for my birthday.

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The Kabar Dozy arrived earlier on this week.

It has been a while since I carried a sub $100 knife.

Freehanded the shoulders off and reduced the bevel angle. Now slices like a pro.

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>>33237821
Just sent these out for heat treating. These are custom but I'm working on production models.

>>33241219
Looks good so far. What kind of materials for the scales you plan on using?

>>33241219

>Having some one else heat treat your blades.

Filthy casual.

>>33241296
This, especially if it's for "production"

>>33241296
>>33241302
it's professional heat treating.
I'll have an oven when I'm making production knives.
I still need to make all designs and jigs/fixtures, have fixtures heat treated, etc, etc before I start.
The heat treat place is 2min from me so it is convenient.

>>33241364
What steel, what spec on the HT?

>>33241103
bump

>>33241378
440C 58 rockwell
I'm not expecting the owners to take great care of it, it's for camping, so i picked stainless.

>>33242441
If you ever get into high hardness heat treatments for carbon steels or AEB-L with grain size minimization techniques applied, make sure to post about it in these threads.

One day I'm going to have to find a maker willing to do an experiment for me and do a knife in 1075, 1084 or 1095 at full martensite hardness with as close to zero retained austenite as possible.

In theory it should be the ultimate light use knife due to apex stability, as per the work of Roman Landes.

>>33242441
Sounds like a sweet dig. Would buy. Honestly I been feeling a twinge to buy a karambit or a hawkbill like Spyderco offering lately just to add to the collection. Think you can whip one up?

>>33242935
I'm not him, but forward sweeping curves are much harder to make, maybe not the best thing for a just starting out knife maker.

>>33243086
Well, maybe there's a maker willing to take up the offer. Know we got quite a few show up.

>>33241103
They are pretty good for sub 20 dollar knives.i highly recommend the g704.the axis locks varies across models.some can be really smooth others can be a bit stiff.

>>33240475
>SP8
Looks sort of cool but something about it is off.

>>33240572
>EOD1
If I had the cash I would buy two.

Ontario rat 3
>tfw too poor for an esee

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>>33243692
fuck my useless life

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>>33237854
Phew! Found this post just in time!

>>33241138
You got the worst blade profile but that thing's a workhorse.

Gratz.

>>33243936
A never ending source of good memes

>>33243692
As long as we're on the topic of Ontario knives...

I would like to let everyone know that Ontario's Spax is a humongous piece of shit.
>weighted wrong to chop with (none of the weight's in the blade)
>blade is too thin to stand up to chopping
>too short to use as a brush clearing tool or machete
>steel is very very soft, there's no way it's the 57-59HRC advertised
>sheath is dogshit in bondage. Seriously the thing has straps going every which way and is un-stiffened Cordura and poorly tanned cheapshit split grain leather.
>the "multitool spanner" in the blade fits fucking NOTHING and is out of spec dimensionally
>edge geometry is bad for everything, mine is at a variable angle ranging from 25*-31*
>I don't even know what the back spine is supposed to be used for, too thin and soft to pry with and at the wrong angle to pry or dig with and it's chisel-ground
>blade coating is a low-test bake-on epoxy that flakes off after 5 minutes of dicking around in the barracks room, after which the 1095 carbon steel "blade" rusted immediately
Which naturally means the military had to buy a shitload of them and make them part of the standard MOLLE II rifleman's kit issue.

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>>33244081
Yeah most of those odd shaped tomahawk/hatchet things are pretty crap. Also, I really like Ontario, but they, like too many other brands, come with stupidly thick edges out of box.

I'm in the process of re-profiling an SP-10. And I'm using it to practice my flat polishing as well. It's a good project knife.

>>33244334
That looks pretty good man. I personally would've extended the bevel further up the blade but you do you.

>>33244334
What stone are you using to re-profiled that thing?

For working large bevels like that I typically use a Norton Crystolon coarse with mineral oil. It's like ~90 grit silicon carbide and has an astronomical cutting speed, even compared to something like an Atoma 140.

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So i fell for the zt meme and picked up a zt0566 in s35vn for 90 bucks.sonquick questions for the sharpeners.what degree and grit would benefit this knife the most.i can sharpen up to 30 degrees inclusive a nd 600 grit.

>>33244836
The best place to start is with what the anticipated scope of work will be for the knife. What kinds of things will you be cutting for the most part? Will it be mostly slicing or mostly push cutting?

>>33245003
for the most part cardboard,tape,the occasional ziptie juts typical things that would be around a warehouse.for the slicing or push cutting i am unsure but i believe the grind lends itself more towards slicing.

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I carry a Case 'folding hunter saber knife' from the mid 80s... set '268'.
I'd much prefer a fixed blade, but I inherited this with the original packaging and accessories, and I have no complaints

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>>33245105

>>33245024
That kind of use suggests a coarse finish would be the sensible choice, anything g between ~300-600 grit would probably make the most sense. That type of finish will give you the best edge retention in slicing cardboard.

>>33245105
neat it might be valuable around the collectors,i never seen a full package like that with a stone,oil and sheath/

>>33245179
would you recommend an angle?i usually do 30 inclusive,but thats mostly with my cheaper knives that cant hold an edge for long.

>>33245186
thanks. I know very little about it besides it being a notch above the basic model. I know the highest grade of this model they made used bone in the handle. mine is some sort of red stained wood.

>>33245199
That's a reasonable angle choice for s35vn, should work fine for you.

>>33245289
alright man thanks i appreciate the help.

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>>33244736
The original goal was to convex it a 1/4 way up the flat, but I don't have the time or energy, so it turned into a tall convex bevel, at lest for now, still deciding what the final geometry will be, I do think it will be convex though.

>>33244782
Well when I started the project like 2 years ago, I was using the most cores stone on a very Old Norton Tri-stone (pic related). But it's a pretty beat up stone, has not been maintained to well, so I did not get much done.

After that I spent a few hours wet sanding with a harbor freight belt sander, that did most of the work, but was a pain rigging up the water cooling in a way that does not get it every where, and the belts wear really fast when wet.

I don't have a supper course stone atm, but I'm probably going to get a DMT D8XX sooner or later because I need to clean up my water stones, I figure that will work for this as well.

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>>33245438
>>33244782
Whops forgot to actually include the pic I was going to use. The old Norton Tri-stone.

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>>33244782
>>33245467
And of course it's up side down kek.

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Pick up a Knives of Alaska bush camp knife the other day for cheap.
Don't know a whole lot about knives but it says it is D2 tool steel. Full tang and shit too.
what's /k/ think?

>bonus 1911 pictured.

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Hey guys

Looking to buy my first knife. Want a general use fixed blade.

I am intrigued by the KA-BAR BK5 and BK10. Both look decent but I don't know shit about knives. I was also looking at something like the Schrade SCHF42D. I also cream over squared blades but can't afford the EOD1 and the BK3 is too large IMO

Also could use some suggestions or any starting point.

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>>33245509
I've heard pretty good things about Knives of Alaska, a little bit rough fit&finish, but they seem to be well made and good reliable tools. I've yet to own one personally though.

D2 is a good steel. Just make sure to wipe it down after use and oil it from time to time, it will pit and rust on you, and I notice Knives of Alaska uses beat blast finishes a lot, which looks nice, but is horrible for rust prevention.

>>33245526
The Bk-5 and 10 are good knives, if you are willing to fork over the $40 extra, the Micarta handles are really worth it, they are much better than the synthetic ones. I have the BK-15 (pic related) and am probably going to pic up a BK-9 at some point.

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>>33245648
>keep it clean and oiled to prevent rust
Thanks senpai, that was the kind of advice I was looking for.
Also, the salesman informed me that D2 requires a diamond stone due to the steel's hardness. I picked up something similar to this but having two sides; coarse and fine. Anything you'd suggest or tip me off about regarding sharpening with a diamond stone?

>>33245716
consistency is your friend when it comes to freehand sharpening.learn it,love it,live it.otherwise you wont get close to factory sharpness.

>>33237854
You're poor and don't own that knife.

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>>33245716
>>33245754
Diamond, whetstones, waterstone, ceramics, heck sand paper, ect... they'll all work, at lest for getting a working edge.

As >>33245754 said, technique is more important, and consistency (keeping your hands at the same angle) is the most important. I highly recommend using something like that diamond stone for the rough work, but consider getting a Spyderco Sharpmaker to put the final edge on. They are very easy to learn and you can easily get hair shaving edges with a little practice. I sharpened my knives this way for a few years before I got more invested into sharpening.

>>33245977
Got it.
I just read through my sharpener's manufacturer's info about sharpening, so im going to go try that on one of my cheap knives.
brb killing myself.

>>33244334
> Applefag

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>>33246023
Yeah it's worth practicing on cheap knives. I have a whole box of really cheap kitchen knives in my basement that I did a whole bunch of practice/edge geometry tests on when I first got my Wicked Edge.

>>33246154
Unfortunately so... It's pretty old now, at lest 3 years. I need to get a new phone soon, not sure if I want to stick with Apple, if they do anything right, it's phones. Don't worry though, as you can see in the background of some of my pics, I don't have an Apple computer, because I actually care about performance and not being ripped off... well completely, I have a gaming laptop, so a little rip off is okay.

>>33243966
There are different profiles available?

>>33246286
apparently, iphone8 is supposed to do away with lightning and come with usb3c - that made out IT department quite excited (no more shuffling around with fookin apple cables).

Are camillus knives worth a shit? I'm a poorfag that's sick of using kitchen knives to do basic shit around the yard.

>>33246286
back when the S5 was new, the galaxy S4 smashed apple in literally every single respect.
but now i've stopped paying attention because i've still got an S4.

>>33248014
>camillus
Camillus went under around 10 years ago. The new Camillus is just a bad quality Chinese company using its name.

If you need a cheap fixed blade, look into Moras.

>>33248254
>mora

never a bad choice

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>>33248014
>Are camillus knives worth a shit?

Not new Camillus, no. See what the first guy said.

If you're looking for a machete I'd recommend Ontario's, they're pretty damn solid. I fucked up 2 cheap machetes before I decided to get the budget version of the 18" Ontario machete (2mm thick instead of 3, some would say this is better) and that machete lasted me for a damn long time. It actually never broke, I fucked it up while trying to modify it because I didn't think to get a cheap machete and try out the grinder on that first. Turns out removing a uniform amount of metal from the spine of a blade is actually pretty difficult. If you want to stay ultra cheap then I'd say go with Imacasa/Tramontina.

If you're looking for a good cheap fixed blade then Mora and Condor are good choices.

Should i get an esee junglas for a big "deep innawoods" blade to pair with my esee 3 or just get an esee 6? Or something in between the two?

Quick question. Looking at some custom makers. Is a karambit style out of 5160 RC 58-60 with a recognizable hamon for $225 a good deal?

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>>33250389
If your looking at a custom, or pretty much any knife over $100, the quality and fit&finish is almost more important than the material used, assuming the material used is not sub par.

From a practicality stand point, obviously a $225 Karambit is not great, especially not a differential tempered one, the hamon looks really cool, but it's not as good a mono temp (performance wise) and is extra pointless for such a short blade, because you could have just run the whole blade at high hardness with out worry of structural problems.

The tl;dr of it: not enough information to base the price of a custom completely on blade shape and steel used.

But I would say $225 is pretty cheap as far as "custom"s go, at lest if it is an established maker. Both the knives from my pic related are over $250 for example.

>>33250457
All good points. I was kind of put off because he has a karambit style, but it's 3/16" thick and that seems weird. Would like to find a reputable maker, but harder than it seems.

>>33250504
Why not go for a cheaper production one for starts? Just to see if you like it in general?

>>33251418
Probably because I want one just to have one. Might settle on a cheap Thai made if I can find one. Himalayan Imports might be my best bet.

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>>33243936

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Canadian here, what do I do if I am attacked by a "16 year old migrant boy" in the future?

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>>33241219
This is the drawing for the knives I made. I made a few modifications that aren't in the drawing but this more or less the knife.
Pretty simple backpacking knife.

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>>33239522
Here's a bump for you.

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Taking your advice, Namefag. An affordable production from a reputable company.

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I need a new and better knife
I like the OD Green Benchmade 941, but it's a bit expensive. Anyone got alternatives?
Also looking at a fixed blade.

Pic related, current EDC knife

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>>33251476 >>33252911
I just remembered. TFW (Traditional Filipino Weapons) makes a nice one, they are very good quality, but I don't quite see the $176 price tag given it's size and the pricing of some of their other stuff.

>>33252941
Are you looking for an OD green blade in particular, or will anything do? And what are you willing to spend?

>>33252997
I like the OD Green handle. Looking to spend around a hunna.
I also am not a fan of the holes and blades like Spiderco, I'm more of a thumb stud guy

>>33252997
Damn, does look nice for sure. Personally wouldn't want to fork out money for it. Blade is obviously nice, but handle looks bland.

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>>33253056
Yeah I don't know about the OD part, it's not a commonly used color, at lest that I have seen. You can custom order some Benchmades, so you could get something like a Griptilian with OD handles or a coating, they have a few others you can order custom too. Pic related is one I customized on their site for my ex gf a few years ago, I ended up not ordering it.

As for just good EDC knives sub $100, with thumb studs, I always recommend the Cold Steel Code 4.

>>33253226
I like the deep carry clip and blade options. How is the bearing and lock-up??

Best blade shape?

People don't seriously carry karambits right? Why? They seem bulky and comparatively useless

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>>33253335
Not sure what you mean by bearing. I don't personally don't own a Griptilian, or any Benchmade atm in fact. But I've handled/sharpened quite a few, like the 940-1 in pic related.

Benchmade is very consistent, they are a good company. The Axis Lock is nice, fun to play with, and pretty sturdy.

I'm personally not a fan of the Griptilian, but it's a good knife.

>>33253543
It's originally a farm knife that has been adapted for self defense. They suck for utility purposes for the most part. I imagine they'll be fine for cutting clothes, rope, twine, tape to a degree.

>>33253693
With the bearing I'm referring to the axle of the blade. The drifter has a tiny copper disk for instance.

And I'm asking more about the Cold Steel Code 4, since I assume you recommended it. Like the tanto looks, but practicality is more important.

Also I've never sharpened a knife myself in my life.

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>>33253764
The Code4 is my go to heavy duty folder. I normally carry it while I'm working labor jobs. The only complaint I really hear about them is the handle is a bit too thin and can be uncomfortable, but this is not an issue at all for me. For the $75 ish, the Fit&finish is very good, and the blade steel (CTS-XHP) is phenomenal for the price point. Keep in mind, it is a larger knife, but it carries very well since it's so thin, and it's very light for it's size, Aluminum handles was the perfect choice.

The (American) Tanto point is not bad for cutting boxes and stuff like that, but in general, the Clip and Spear point are more useful. I also happen to really like the look of the Spear point so I got that (pic related is mine).

Maybe a bit hard to sharpen if you have not sharpening experience, so you are not going to want to practice on it, really any knife that worth anything. Sharpening is a whole other topic, we can go into it if you want.

>>33252941
Zt 0566

>>33254072
>thin handle.
Yawn. Just makes it better for IWB, like I do now.
Love to carry that way.

>75 bucks
More like 120+ on this side of the pond.

I want a bigger and heavier duty knife. Think I found it. But sharpening 101, not now please. Wanna hit the hay soon, I hope.

>>33254182
174 euro. Now that's what I call over budget. Nice knife though, not gonna argue with ZeroTolerance

>>33245977
link for that wiha toolset pls

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>>33254249
Didnt say you were euro :(

Ganzo?they make a chunkier version of it.

>>33254576
Sorry meant to say chunkier version of the 940.Should be under budget as it cost less than 20 ameribux.

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>>33254451
Which one, both are pretty easy to find. The Folding one has a larger variaty, but you only really need T-10 and smaller for most knives, it's good for really torcing down and breaking locktight seals. The Driver set has smaller bits, for odd knives like the Boker Kwaiken that feels it nessisary to use some T4 screws, and is more nice to use, but is more expensive and not enough torc to break lock tight seals. I have both because some knives need two of the same bits at the same time.

https://www.amazon.com/Wiha-79242-Piece-Selector-T5-T30/dp/B001US4RMI/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1489106906&sr=8-7&keywords=wiha+torx

and

https://www.amazon.com/Wiha-26799-8-Piece-Torx-Screwdriver/dp/B000T9W4TC/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1489106906&sr=8-6&keywords=wiha+torx

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>>33254249
Alright, well I'm normally on ktg most days. And there are a few other sharpening fags here, I'm the only one (at lest of what I've seen) that is into set angle systems though.

And yeah, did not know you are a Eurofag, the I have no familiarity with that market or the normal going rates.

>>33254849
thanks

>>33254249
>sharpening 101

https://youtu.be/cWU_qTp3DLM