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>>33222157
you're such an autistic faggot

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>>33222306
Cool, off to a good start.

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>>33222157
You should combined the two moras for the ultimate knife.

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>>33222157
Nice box man

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>>33223788
I can't post long tonight. Just waiting for coffee.
But I'll bump anyways

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>>33223801
Another bump.
The new Halo is coming out soon.
I'm excited for it. WIll post pics when I am cleared to

>>33222372
with whale paws like that, how do you avoid slicing up your own meat?

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>>33223817
Bump
Coffee almost done
Will head out soon.
Sorry I couldn't stick around as long.
I'll try to come back and check the thread later

Microtech guy :D
Enjoy your coffee brother

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>>33223837
Coffee Done!
Sorry friends but I'm out again.
Wish I could have contributed more, but I've missed the past several threads. Wanted to contribute something.

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>>33223788
>>33223801
>>33223817
Hey microtech guy, it's been a while since I've seen you around, nice to see ya.

>>33223820
Did not think bigger hands are easier to cut. I fuck up from time to time, but after being into knives for so long, and sharpening often for 5-6 years, you get used to not cutting your self.

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>>33223848
THANKS!
I'll post one more just for you.
This just showed up

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>>33223852
Well nice seeing ya around, to bad we did not get the chance to chat.

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>>33223866
ok 1 more for you, because I like you.
>>33223881
I could always "spill my coffee" and take a little longer.
Whats up?

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>>33223875
I have to ask, are you some kind of retailer? It's just sooo many knives lol.

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>>33223893
I wish.
If I became a retailer, I would lose my ability to buy direct from them.
(I wanted to give some away here a while ago but I was told thats a no go)
Posting comparison pic

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>>33223916
Making next cup.
Posting some users

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>>33223926
second to last bump
Hope you anons enjoy

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>>33223916
I've had the Combat Troodon on my list a while, but I'm not ready to swallow that price yet. Currently my only OTF is a Lightning, just for the sake of having an OTF.

How long you been collecting?

>>33223950
Since 1993. Met Tony when he was first starting out.
(Microtech didn't exist back then, but Tony was making prototypes so he could gain the needed capital to start producing)
OTF blades aren't for everyone. Give the lightning a try and see if you like it.
(Used combats sell for $200-$300 pretty readily)

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>>33223965
Dang.
Didn't post a pic
Coffee done. 1 more for tonight!

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>>33223974
I'll try to check this as soon as I can.
If I am able, I'll answer whatever questions I can.
See you all soon!
(I wish I had more time to post)
Have a great week everyone!
I'll end with a star wars post. Yes they made star wars themed knives. I'm currently waiting on the stormtrooper combat. No I'm not getting the tachyon or the pen. Not my style.

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>>33223965
Yeah I've had the lighting a few years now. I like it, just as something to play with around the house, but I don't carry it, mostly because of legality, and also because the Lightning is a pretty crap knife.

I like the Combat Trodon in particular because it's the largest double action in my realistic price range, and if I'm going to get something I can't carry, might as well go big.

My problem is I have too many knives on my want list ranging from $45-$1,500. All different types and brands, I'm not nearly as focused of a collector as you.

>>33223916
Would you recommend the Troodon or the UTX-85? I'm looking to get a Microtech in that size range (3~3.25 inch blade) and those two are the options I have. The Troodon is a lot more expensive, but what's the merit of both?

>>33223788

Looking at getting an ultractech, how often do the springs break?

Huh, Hunter 3-1 Actual hasn't shown up yet.

>>33225199

Hopefully he never comes back

>>33225199
>>33225207
>Implying he isn't everywhere all the time
You two must be new here

>>33225199
>>33225207
>>33225250
>retards
You do realize anyone can be hunter right?
Thats the whole point of that meme

>>33225273
Well, I was just surprised nobody had posted under his name yet. Most /ktg/ threads have some fuck become Hunter pretty quickly.

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Go fuck yourselves.

I am become Hunter, the actual of threads.

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Fucking poser.

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are there cheaper alternatives to any strider folders that are just as rough and tough?

Are there any production knives like the higo no kami? Or even just knives wIth maybe the same or similar steel, or blade shape? I just got a Higo, it's great but the grind was far from symmetrical one side was but the other has a tiny bit of outside metal on the edge. It took off Fine but muh aesthetics

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I want one of these memes, but I'm not sure if it's actually worth the money.

Boker kwaiken 3.5 with carbon fiber.

Any reason not to for around 100$

>>33226259
You can always settle for the Buck Strider collab.

I was wondering for automatic knives, how long do the springs normally last? I want to buy some otf knives like mictrotechs but I don't pretty much have any dealers nearby to return them for servicing should I need it.

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>>33227556
Sebenza plz git.

>>33223936
cool knifes dude!

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just got this today, Mora permissionbajonet, the only military knife mora has made. these generally go for over 100 eur but i got lucky for 40 e

>>33227777
checked

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>>33227640
kek

>>33227777
Damn, you just got the quad jackpot, checked.

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>>33226259
>giving mick "stolen valor rider" strider money

I've always wanted to start collecting aesthetic knives i have a couple already, but I always can't justify it due to the fact that if i spend big $ on nice knives I'm not gonna want to use them in case i scratched them.

What do you guys do with your knives?

>>33228052

Fucking Mickey Burger.

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>>33228083
If I know I'm going to be doing rough work, I don't grab an expensive knife in the morning, my go to beater is my Cold Steel Code4.

So admittedly, I do carry all my knives, but my more expensive ones don't get hard use, just general EDC stuff like opening boxes, cutting rope, zip ties, ect...They do get dirty, like pic related. Some times I'll carry a beater in my back pocket. To this effect, you could argue that my higher end knives are pocket jewelry.

Then again, relatively speaking I don't have that high end of knives, $240. My Spyderco Tuff is worth a lot more right now, but I don't think I'll ever sell it.

>>33228135
Wew cold steel. Any of their new knives strike your fancy?

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>>33228179
Yeah, even though they are a meme, honestly most of their knives are good if not great. For the $50-$100 range I most often recommend the Code4. I would just stay away from their 4116 steel knives, most of their swords are worth avoiding, and their machetes and axes are good if you put some work into them.

I own quite a few Cold Steel's, one of the first companies I got into.
-Code4 Spear point XHP
-Mini Recon 1 Clip AUS8
- San Mia Recon Tanto (pic related)
-Medium Vaquero Voyager
-XL Tanto Voyager
-XL G-10 Espada (because meme knife)
-24" latin Machete
-Cutlass Machete
-Chines War Sword Machete
-Scimitar Spike

That's all I can remember that I own from them atm.

>>33228256
I meant their new 2017 knives you autistic sperglord

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>>33228894
Oh sorry, missed the "new", bit distracted with some physics work.

The only thing that really catches my eye this year is the Drop Frog stuff, it looks promising, but I'm curious about the edge retention, all the folding knives look good from a utility stand point, but they look ugly to me.

All the Cold Steels on my list are nothing too new, I may give the MAA Arming Sword a shot, I'm hesitant though, Cold Steel swords have a bad reputation for lose hilts. Also, I'm hopping they will make a smaller variation of the 4Max one year, I want one, but I'm not spending $300+ on something that's too big for realistic carry... well most the time...

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Perfect thread!

Look what I got today.

Microtech Ultratech OTF in Elmax.
All my childhood knife boners are complete. I'm so glad autos are finally legal in Maine.

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>>33229157
Size comparison next to my RSK grip.

Action is fun/smooth, in/out lockup is tight, up down and side/side have only the tiniest amount of play, but that's a given on any DAOTF. Overall I'm very impressed, this will definitely enter the carry rotation.

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>>33229157
>>33229202
Nice! And wow I did not hear they became legal in Maine. That's great to hear, because I live up there for 2-3 months in the Summer.

This may encourage me to get some more Autos.

>>33229277
I would, but I only collect EDC knives at the moment. I can't bring myself to drop that sort of money on something that I can't feasibly leave the house with...

Nice pile of micros though!

>>33229286
Yeah, the governor signed the repeal back in November alongside constitutional carry. It's a good place to be.

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>>33222306

I know, it's so terrible now that people who actually sharpen and use their knives post in there threads, as opposed to the factory edge collectors that used to dominate them.

Stay mad.

>>33230379
>there threads

I'm mad at your third world education.

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>>33230379

>>33230462
*these

>>33230572
I was going for translucency, but that one piece is nice too.

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>>33230379
>>33230572
>>33230819
Whops...


Before anyone comments on the massive burr, I was only half way done sharpening it, but I needed to do some other more important knives, and I never got around to finishing this one.

>>33222157
warning: moras are an addiction

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>>33222157
Can anyone recommend a decent OTF knife for carry that is 100~ or less? I'm just getting into knives and really like the otf ones

So i just bought a zt 0566 in s35vn for 90 bucks and a spyderco native 5 in s35vn for 40 bucks?did i do good?still in the mail while ones off to get acid washed.

>>33232415
Go to dhgate. And search for microtech scarab or ultratech clones.qctually nicely built for about 30-60 bucks in comparison to other knives in the same price range.

>>33232415
For sub $100, there is the Lightning OTF, it has a good action, but it's a crap EDC knife, very bad steel, and it dulls it self with opening and closing. The HK Autos are the cheapest really high quality autos I know of, but they are like $180. Maybe look at Schrade, I know they do some, but I've never looked into them.

What I do is go to BladeHQ and filter through knives, so "OTF", and then by price, "Low to High" and then see what looks good that is in budget, and start reading reviews and comparing materials.

http://www.bladehq.com/cat--Out-The-Front-Automatics--41#perpage:100/sort:price_sort_asc:asc

But first off, why do you want to carry an OTF? On top of them just being a lot more expensive, they are not really great for EDC, even really high end ones can be a bit unreliable, and you have to worry about keeping junk out of the mechanism a lot more than side openers. More so their legality is something to consider depending on where you live, and even if they are legal, people don't think too well of them.

>>33232597
Yeah those are good prices, assuming they are in mostly good condition. Did you buy used?

>>33232740
Well the 0566 is used but still with factory edge,needs a sharpening should from the pictures didnt look too used up since the s35 models were released recently.the native on the other hand belong to some marine who fucked up the edge with a worksharp and scratched the shit out of the finish,hence why i sent it to a guy to acid wash it and resharpen it.nothing is stripped and lock up is solid.

>>33222157
are you scared the knives would get scratches and broken if you don't put them in a protective case?
looks pointless and a waste of space

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>>33232803
Waist of space? You kidding me? It has helped organize and condense them all (well at lest the folders and most expensive fixed blades) into one place. When you have 35ish folders, some of which over $200, it's hard to keep track of them all when moving them around, and it's best not lose any obviously. Also it makes it a lot easier to pick out a knife every morning.

I use them (see >>33228135) but I don't see a problem with not wanting them to all scratch each other in the bottom of a bag if possible. And it's a hell of a lot easier to travel with this case with a pad lock on it.

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Tonight's carry

>>33233391
Classic. I'm still in the honey moon phase with my Opinel. May have been home all day studying for a physics exam, but it's been in my pocket.

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>>33233391
>>33233495

I've been carrying my Spyderco Caly 3.5 in ZDP recently. ZDP is an interesting case study in the competing effects of hardness vs carbide volume on apex stability.

In light use the high sharpness edge retention is noticeably better than lower carbide steels at 60-62 HRC, but once you start using it harder you quickly start running into microscopic chipping issues.

>>33222157
How the fuck do I care for my carbon Mora? I try to wash and dry it after every use, but when I tried to use it today, it was forming rust pits.

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>>33233579
I'm currently, possibly, having edge stability issues with my ZT 0770cf in CPM-M4. I've tried, I can't capture it in a picture or a photo, it's even hard to see by eye, only under magnification, and by feel, I notice the belly has a roll about 3/4ths an inch long. It feels too large to be the result of the large carbides not supporting the edge, considering I sharpened at 16 DPS.

I'm going to re-set the edge soon, just have not gotten the chance yet, M4 takes a while to sharpen, and I don't have too much time with course studies. I've just been touching up some of my less wear resistant knives, like my Skylines. Pic related.

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>>33233736
have no experience with the carbon mora in particular, but a lot with carbon steel blades in general.

First off, always wipe it on your pants or shirt before sheathing. After you are done using it, for a while, try to wipe it with oil, if you are out and about for more than a day or two, consider bringing a folded up rag that you oiled, to wipe down the knife.

When you get back from your trip/whatever make sure to thoroughly was the blade and get rid of anything stuck on it. And Oil when done.

Pretty much; oil, even spray some in the sheath. If you use it for food, get some mineral oil and use that.

This is not really applicable for just a Mora, but when I am storing or displaying blades (like hanging on a wall) I coat it with Renaissance Wax, it's expensive, but it last forever, and will preserve an untouched blade for literal hundreds of years. Mostly I use it on my swords, but some knives too.

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>>33233736
Oh and for rust removal, maybe not pitting, just look up Metal Polish and how to use it, like Flitz or something. Really any thing will do.

You could also consider forcing a patina or coating the blade (blueing it or something), if you want a project that will make it more easy to maintain.

Project knives can be fun, like pic related.

>>33233772
That is quite odd. CPM-M4 should have no issues with apex stability at 16 DPS, and given that it is a high speed steel, it would seem unlikely that the factory edge would be burned.

In my own experience, I haven't had any apex stability issues with CPM-M4 even at a~10 dps edge-bevel angle with a 15 dps micro-bevel, and that includes some deliberately abusive whittling testing and some thick plastic cutting.

>>33223837
the guns he could have bought....

>>33231074
shame that the stainless ones chip so easily, after about a week of use at work my first mora loked more like a saw

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>>33233736
>>33233897

I would force a patina on it. A forced thin layer of black oxidization has been helpful for me in keeping the orange kind at bay on my non-stainless knives.

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My collection as of now. Waiting on the next batch of UTX-70s to add one.

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>>33233910
The real problem is that I don't recall cutting anything that is too hard or with excessive pressure. And I agree, 16DPS should not be a big deal for M4, and more so, after the whole Elmax ordeal, I trust ZT to not be over heating their blades... Seems like a Cliffstamp extra credit question. kek.

When I put a new edge on it, I'll make sure to keep track of how I use it. And I'm going to do the same thing with my Wicked Edge, 16DPS up to 1,600 ceramic, and then 5-3.5 micron strop at 15.5 DPS.

>>33233939
I'll see how mine holds up. I wen't for the stainless, because I know my gf is not going to religiously maintain hers, she just wants something to whittle with around the fire. And I'm not looking for max performance, I've got plenty of fixed blades I'm going to carry more (pic related). Really my Mora is really just to practice Scandi grind sharpening on, now that I'm spending more time free handing on my water stones.

>>33233945
Damn that's a thin edge. What is that primary bevel, like 10 DPS? Very good work. I have a long way to go with my free hand work. I'm very rusty, and I never was supper proficient, most of my work is with set angle set ups.

>>33233956
Very fine collection. I have a feeling that if I were just getting into it now a days, I would just be buying one or two higher end production/mid techs a year. Since I started when I was like 15 though, I've really worked my way up from low end, through mid level, into high end production. For the mean while I seem to be stuck at mid-high production.

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Was thinking about picking one of these up to carry around. It seems nice and thin and easy to carry, anyone have any input? I think it'll be easier to carry around than a opinel, because the open seems pretty thick in diameter, even for the small ones.

I am worried about it coming open in my pocket and poking me and/or slicing up my pants, is this a valid concern or is it held shut pretty securely? I know it doesn't lock like Opinels do, but I don't think I'd be using it for any serious work.

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>>33234287
The Higonokami is another knife on the list of knives "I should have gotten years ago". I don't own a traditional one yet, pic related is a Rock Creek one I have, but considering my current kick, may get one soon.

From what I've heard, they have decent friction from box, so opening is not that much of a worry, but if you plan on using it a lot, it could eventually be pretty lose. A lot of them come with a little leather or fabric sleeve that you can carry them in. If not though, I would get a larger one (3.5ish + blade) and carry it tip down in your change pocket (if your pants has one). This way if it does open, you hopefully will touch the tang or spine and not the edge.

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>>33234280
Well, as I'm sure you are aware, KAI is not exactly known for QC'ing their heat treatments very well, so it is at least theoretically possible you could have gotten an HT dud, but you'd have to screw up M4 pretty bad to get that behavior.

It also seems pretty unlikely they could have burned it enough post HT to induce that kind of behavior, as its a high speed steel (otherwise I'd assume burned edge from factory sharpening).

In theory, the most likely answer should be that there was some sort of hard contact that you don't recall at some point. Easiest way to check is to grind the existing edge off and see how it holds up in continued use.

I also tend to run all my EDC knife edge bevels in the ~10 degree per side range with ~20 degree per side microbevels. My EDC usage mostly consists of cardboard, paperboard, food prep, clamshell packaging, consumer grade zip-ties and plastic. That sort of light use allows for very thin blade geometries and very thin edge geometries to maximize cutting performance.

A lot of my production knives have been had their primary grinds thinned out using a Norton Crystolon coarse, in addition to the low edge bevel angles. My custom fixed blades are all lasers at purchase.

Only production knife that was thin enough for my tastes at purchase is my Spydiechef. It was thin like a lean custom fixed blade behind the edge when I got it. The edge bevel is at ~10 dps in pic related.

>>33233956
Hows the hinderer?Been looking at getting one but i heard it doesnt flip well and the customer service is aweful.

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>>33233736
Force a patina, keep it oiled, clean dry and re oil when used on anything acidic.

>>33234553
Hinderer is awesome. People bitch about not being able to flip it but that's because they don't know how to or they have weak hands. You have to push it in instead of flicking it and it takes a some force.

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How do you guys feel about forced patina? Is my mora /ktg/ approved?

>>33234423
>>33234287
I just got mine on the weekend, it's pretty sweet. Super easy to sharpen too, got it as nice as my S110v
That said, mine has a small problem with is grind, the outside steel was showing on one side all the way to the apex, a tiny bit of sharpening fixed that though

Did Microtech guy get a delete a bunch of posts?

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>>33234808
It looks cool to me, I may try it on the flats of my Ontario sp-10 once I get the edge geometry the way I want it.

What method did you use to get the patina? How long it take? I've actually never tried it my self.

>>33234526
How thick is the Spydychef above the bevel (what ever distance you measure at). Must be really thin to have that short of a bevel at that angle. Ever since I saw you post it a while ago, I've been considering getting one. Probably would not run it bellow 15dps or so, pretty sure I've said this before, but it's hard to keep good edge alignment while trying to cut a thick zip tie half way in a tractor engine bay.

>>33235117
Hmmm yeah it looks like at lest one of the mm was removed, something like;
>wait until you get a Halo V
Or something like that, that's the only one I know for sure, unless I over looked it.

I wounder why, I did not notice anything inappropriate or out of character about those posts.

>>33235184
On the far left you can see some stains on the mora, I got those after I stuck it blade first into the sand while camping and forgetting to clean it up right after. As the for patina now, I just cut up some regular limes and left the lime juice sit on the blade for a few hours. If you go buy citric acid it'll go a lot faster, but I think you need to be careful not to use too strong of an acid to force the patina. I've heard acorns can be used too, but there aren't any near me.