Thoughts on the Swiss K31

>>33217432
Absolute top tier. Finding ammo is the shit part. Its out there but its not always in stock and when you find it local its usually marked up 50%

>>33217432
Good rifle, but special snowflake cartridge.

>>33217448
I have about a hundred rounds saved up
but what does /k/ do with all the ammo they save up? do you just go out and shoot it? then you have no ammo? but what if I never shoot it? then the rifle is just a wallhanger my whole life
this is my struggle

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>>33217432
>Thoughts on the Swiss K31
Yes.

One of the best /goodtaste/ guns, bolt is very nice straightpull

I'd buy one just to have on my wall cuz fuck the struggle of that ammo but you do you

>>33217448
Op here, where would you recommend finding ammo in the states? I can check my local gun show.

as far as ammo goes, save money and when a new shipment comes in, buy as much as you can afford

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>>33217474
>>33217521
I have been stocking up on GP-11 for a few months I have just over 1000 rounds right now. pic related has had GP-11 in stock for the last few weeks. Just so you know its all mostly late 80s surplus. Online stores are your friends lads

>>33217525
Where does the ammo come from? I'd assume Switzerland, but I'm not sure.

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One of the best rifles ever made.

>>33217432
Was my first gun. I will never sell it, ever. It is a marvel of Swiss engineering, and a joy to shoot.

>>33217474
The struggle isn't getting ammo, as gp11 isn't hard to find or that expensive. Hornady makes hunting loads if you keep an eye out. The real struggle is reloading. You need Redding dies, as the Lee and other brands match a k11 chamber. Then you need to solve the gp11 berdan primer issue, because gp11 has decent brass and you'll end having plenty. But at least it uses a standard 30 caliber bullet, despite being called 7.5 cal.
TL;DR you will never want to lose your brass, especially hornady, but you won't since the brass ejects straight up and you will look like the brass catching zen master at the range.

>>33217561
Yes. GP11 is nearly match grade for being surplus ammo. Made in the 80s and a great value.

>>33217594
Is it easy to make your own ammo from the brass with these bullets? I've only ever bought ammo...

>>33217432
They are fine guns. Become a Swiss citizen and get ammo for free.

>>33217616
What do you mean get ammo for free? Is this a thing in Switzerland?

>>33217623
Switzerland has a Conscript Army, GP-11 is still a military used caliber so they get it for free. Literally everyone in Switzerland has guns

>>33217616
You don't need to be a Swiss citizen and the ammo is not free.

>>33217623
It's not free. It just costs like 20 Swiss Francs for 100 rounds while shooting at the official state endorsed ranges.

>>33217589
Same guy, as a side note, mounting a scope is problematic. Please don't tap the receiver for a scout scope unless you don't mind heresy. Mine has a right side clamp mount that is decent but the brass hits the rings, so I had to put a deflector on it to make it work better and not hurt brass. Plan to pull the scope off and put a diopter on soon though. Going full Swiss competition aesthetic.

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>>33217648
Diopter is the only option.

Buy a WFB one.

>>33217646
I have a friend who has swiss citizenship and he gets sent ammo every year. Only 60rds, though.

>>33217604
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>>33217589
Look up reloading gp11. It isn't easy but I'm pretty sure hornady loads are boxer primed, so that's the easy option. Some guys fill the case with water and use the dies for hydraulic pressure to force the primer out. Some use a decapping tool. I'm pretty sure you can buy berdan primers and prime it yourself once you get the old primer out. Some guys drill the case to convert it to boxer. I haven't done any of this, im just sitting on a big pile of the stuff til I get around to doing it.

>>33217664
There's a place that is just down the road from me that makes/used to make dippers. They seemed legit, but I'm not sure if they are still making them. St Marie's or something like that.

>>33217745
That guy is legit.

He's one of the best Swiss gun expert in the USA. Guy makes a ton of high quality products for K31s.

Last I heard he had some health problems, so you should hurry if you want to buy something.

>>33217641
No, thats bullshit.

>>33217684
Does he live outside Switzerland but participate in the mandatory trainings in swiss schooting clubs outside of Switzerland? There are about 36 of them worldwide, even Hong Kong has one. If not, hes spewing bullshit. Source: my work with armasuisse

>>33217432
Neat and pretty aesthetic rifle that's sadly been overhyped the last couple of years. Unless you're a collector, I'd recommend passing on it.

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>>33217818
Also: Good news everyone!
After the end of the production of GP11 in the early 90s and the selling of all the machinery to the serbs at Priv Partizan, there has been a huge demand for the cartridge in the civil shooting sport and the army reserves are running low. So it has been decided to make all new machinery. As of one year ago, a testrun of one million cartridges were made. It was split 50/50 between the army and selected gun clubs for testing and feedback. It features an all round crimp instead of the three point one of the last batches or the wax seal. The powder has been modeld after the characteristics of the old powder. Ive shot some myself and there are no differences. Even the extreme fudd sportshooters only found one thing to nag on: "It feels harder to chamber a round" so there is no difference between the new and old.

>>33217818
Yes he does. He lives in LA, there's got to be one there.

>>33217999
He doesnt. You want to know why? The only ammo that is being issued to soldiers is GP90, the 5.6 ammo. GP11 is not being shipped to the international clubs because their duties is to provide the possibility that a citizen who lives abroad may shoot his mandatory programm OP, and the Feldschiessen.
There is no soldier in any duty who has not been issued an Stgw90 in 5.6 caliber now.
Your friend is a liar.

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>>33217432
While I find the K31 a neat gun and super accurate, it's mostly an expensively made range toy and probably wouldn't have worked on a real battlefield.

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>>33218169
>this autistic opinion again

>>33217981
Mein neger. Best news I've heard in a while.

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>>33218242
I try to make a photo of the headstamp but it wont focus. Headstamp is T on the top and 16 on the bottom.

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>>33217981
I demand sauce on this
>>33218298
>Hella blurry as pic
Nigga

>>33218308
Let my try my old camera.

>>33218308
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>>33218308

>>33218360
W E W
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US SALES WHEN?

>>33218371
SWITZERLAND FIRST!

>>33218371
>>33218308
Just a remind that this new production won't be cheap like the surplus ammo.

>>33218380
Swiss intern it surely will remain at the exact same 35 Rappen.

>>33218374
Yes yes, Ye who create it shall receive first but come on senpai, I needs day shit. I would also pay good money for some Cupro bullets for reloading

Nice, but I prefer them Swedes.

>>33218414
Sry, aint nothing I can help you with. Best thing I can recommend to you is collect your brass and go through the bother of depriming. There will be some big production numbers but it will mostly be for the internal market of the ranges and the army, but there is no intention for export.

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I love mine.

>>33217432
dead sexy and even sexier to shoot