/meg/ - Military Enlistment General

Is backpacking a good way to strengthen my lower half for the military? I figure if I throw in some pushups and situps in the morning and at night, walking up and down the Appalachian Trail with a 40lb pack is a decent way to make sure my hip flexors and knees are ready for rucking and shit without actually rucking, like everyone says not to.

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Does it matter that I have a really weak sense of smell as long as I don't try to be a super spooky operator?

>>33208330

Smell isn't tested at MEPS or any PHA. So as long as it's not documented and you don't tell anyone about it you'll be fine. It probably won't even affect most jobs, but it might be a safety concern if you work around fumes or anything volatile.

What's a good weight to be before going to Navy RTC? Right now I'm 5'11 and 136

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>>33208498

>>33208498
Try to get up to 150.

>>33208181
>walking up and down the Appalachian Trail with a 40lb pack

>without actually rucking

I'm not sure what you think rucking is if not walking around with a heavy backpack. Most rucks you do in the military for training will be about that weight.

Just make sure you take care of your feet (good shoes, change socks), get a ruck with a frame, and don't do retarded shit like running distance with it on. Rucking is a great way to fuck up your knees and ankles, especially if you aren't used to it.

>>33209054
Ruck runs, I should have said. I can backpack fine but I'm eternally paranoid about my knees giving out.

>>33209083

Run or ruck, do not ruck run. You're right to worry about your knees, that shit is terrible for them.

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Which branch would it be easiest for me to emasculate people who out rank me?
I want to push some buttons.

Who has the most spineless NCO and officer corps?

>>33209763
>join the military to start conflict with your superiors

should be a good time

>>33209763
none of them because if you try that shit you'll get smoked regardless and be treated like the village idiot by your co-workers

>>33209763
what's the point

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I'm a newfriend.
which branch/section of the millitary gives you the most combat training?

>>33210246
You mean while training for a non-combat job or what?

>>33210270
in general i guess, I'm a complete newguy to everything military.
I have little to no knowledge on the branches and all the types of jobs in it and honestly don't know where to start.

how long does it take to enlist in the army?

>>33210308
google

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Hoping to enlist in the Australian Army at the end of the year. Thinking of going either communications or intelligence depending on how I go on the aptitude test. As much as I'd love to join the infantry I'm a skinny cunt and I don't think my body could take it.

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ISIS walks up to a group of servicemen with a machete in hand

Which branch is most likely to take the most casualties? Which branch is least capable of handling itself in a scuffle?

>>33210347
im waiting on my enlistment date for infantry right now they said prob april.

go infantry cunt

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>Deployed US Navy Has a Pregnancy Problem, and it’s Getting Worse

>The evacuation of pregnant women is costly for the Navy....a single transfer can cost the Navy up to $30,000 for each woman trained for a specific task, then evacuated from an active duty ship and sent to land. That figure translates into $115 million in expenses for 2016 alone.

https://stream.org/deployed-us-navy-pregnancy-problem-getting-worse/

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>>33210308
Fair enough.

All branches have some infantry combat component, including the Air Force and Coast Guard. Air Force for example has the Security Forces (whose job is 99% to guard Air Force facilities) and a few small special forces teams like CCT and TACP. So asking which one gives you 'the most' combat training is the wrong way of looking at it.

As for Marines and Army, they both have the infantry you're thinking of. Marine training is a degree harder and they have more of a cult of personality about themselves. There are a ton of schools for both branches for specialist training, like Army air assault.

So yeah, google. Whichever GI Joe episode tickled you, there's probably one branch that offers something like it.

>>33210387
How will he ever keep the launchpad secure with so little ammunition?

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>>33210382
thanks pal

>>33210367
What made you want to do it? Also what was your experience with DFR?

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>>33210318
If you want a horror story about enlistment periods, I've got one.

I took my first ASVAB test in April of 2015. Everything was going fine until MEPS day, and my roommate proudly told the doctor that I'd been snoring that night.

It took until January this year before they finally accepted that I didn't have sleep apnea. Two fucking years because my roommate thought he was doing himself a favor.

It's not supposed to take more than two or three months, but don't quit your day job just yet.

Well, I'm not in the US right now so I'll have to get a job when i get over. I don't have any medical problems so I've got that going for me.

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Which branch could be described as "A bunch of sassy fat people, not doing work"?

>>33208132
thanks for this pic OP, reminding me what a shithole Paris is today.

>>33210509
>when the hitbox doesn't match the character model

>>33210416
kinda cliche but i wanted a challenge in life and the comradery also lots of benefits and i like the fitness aspect. i dont think you can get any of those in a better job than infantry.

DFR is alright bit slow though. i had my assessment day in november and still waiting.
they are also big on past employment and team sports so make sure to mention those

>>33210551
this is my third time around debating my choice..

>recently figured out about 2 year enlistments

what jobs are related with 2 year enlistments?

>>33210700
Check defencejobs

>>33210700

2 year enlistments are a meme, you don't get the full GI Bill and the only jobs available are ones with super short training.

>>33210700
I've not heard too much about two year gigs (even though my dad wants me to get one), but it looks like they'd prefer candidates for less training-intensive roles, like mechanics and firefighters. The recurring statement in the articles is "94 MOSs are available for two-year contracts", but I can't find a complete list anywhere.

>>33210837
>>33210834
>>33210819
is it a retarded amount off from the full GI bill?

is 12B sketchy as fuck?

>>33210897
12B is a good job, don't knock it. Putting up and taking down HESCOS is fine, and you get to play with explosives in training.

It's a pretty serious step down from the GI bill, but it looks like they expect people to transfer from a 2-year enlistment to a National Guard thing or opt for another year or two addition when the end of the two years is up.

>>33210897
>>33210700
Oh, and it looks like there's a finite amount of Call to Service contracts in any given year, so I'd get moving if it's your gig.

>>33210942
>>33211093
would it be better to just get it going now with a 2 year enlistment or go through ROTC and become an officer?
also, would having my associate's speed things up in ROTC?

>>33211115

Those are two completely different goals that will get you to two completely different places.

You can do accelerated ROTC, but you must do at least two years of ROTC before you graduate.

>>33211115
Why are your two options the shortest possible commitment or a commission commitment?

The CTS program seems to be trying to compromise with people who don't know if they want to join the military or go to college, or want to serve but don't want to be out of the work force for two years. If you're set on finishing college AND set on serving, do ROTC and get the most out of both.

>>33211213
>but don't want to be out of the work force for two years
*four years, rather.

>>33211213
>wife
>kids in the next 3-5 years
>buying a house this year

the shortest amount will allow me to serve my country and return to help my wife out with the house and kids

the longer choice will make the experience less shitty and more worth it, but will interfere with my plan to not be absent for my kid's life

>>33211454
consider National Guard or Reserves?

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How do I get my 2-mile time low?

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>>33211454
Well shit bro, you've got a lot more moving parts than most of /meg/.

Are you confident that your career will be adequate to provide for your clan in the long run? If so, I'd just go in now, do your bit, then return to your woman and get busy living. If you love the military an unexpected amount, you'll be able to tack more time on, maybe finish your degree and go green-to-gold (you'll have to research how that works, I don't really know). Officer pays more, but in 20 years all that will matter is that you were in.

The way I see it, you have a lot more to lose than most guys. Don't fuck that up with two extra years of keeping your wife stuck on a base. If Trump starts a big show somewhere you'll still have a chance to go, and maybe get a commission out of the reserve commitment.

>>33211542
thanks mate
good to consider
will update after talking with battle buddy tomorrow

>>33211523
Alternate HIIT with LIIT.

Why is the leatherneck forum such ass
Which is cooler, Force Recon or MARSOC

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>>33212048
>why is something marine-related outdated and poorly maintained

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>>33212111

Can any /k/anadians comment on how hard the CFAT is ? what resources are best for it?

>>33212048
force recon does special recon - very dangerous spoopy shit deep into enemy territory, and marsoc does foreign internal defense.

am I missing something?

>>33209836
>and be treated like the village idiot by your co-workers
This so much. Collective punishment really has no place outside of TRADOC but it can happen if one guy fucks with their plt sgt. And unlike the movies where you're the "goofy class clown everyone just laughs with" you'll actually be the guy they all hate because you're a fuck stick making life suck for everyone around you.

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What are some non-stupid reasons for joining the Marines?

>>33212570
You get to go fast and be the smartest guy in the room.

Also the dress blues are fucking mint.

Joining the military was a horrible mistake, don't do it

>>33212570
>snazzy dress uniform
>"bragging rights"
>GI Bill (most important and actual useful reason)

Unless you get a recon contract, blaze into force recon or marsoc later down the road, marines seems like a meme.

>>33212645
>muhreens seems like a meme

Trust me when I say you are spot on.

>>33212662
Would you be able to elaborate on what you mean by this?

>>33212590
>fat airforce IT guy

>>33212671
What do you want to know?

I got nothing but fucked over repeatedly for the first 2 years. I continually tried to fix it and move on until my body just broke one day and I was medically retired.

>>33212695
Would you have chosen another branch if you could go back in time?

Went to the ER about a year ago, anxiety attacks/depression was getting too bad. Pussied out etc. How likely is this to show up when i go in for a medical? I took some therapy for about a month there as a program. Don't know if i was formally diagnosed/anything put on paper.

Not American, but Canadian.

Whats the best path into MARSOC? Asking for a friend.

>>33212714
Yes, the only things the muhreens can offer are nice uniforms and shitty leaders.

>>33212730
I've toyed with the idea of the Marines, but I have no desire to go Infantry. I assume the Navy or Air Force would be a better pick?

>>33212744
I should have gone Navy, Air Force, or even Coast Guard. Then you won't be guaranteed genuine third world living conditions right here in the USA.

Can someone describe or compare Air Force security forces training and physical demans with Army Infantry training and physical demands?

I watch videos and see security forces doing everything from checking IDs at the gate, fence sentry duty, vehicle patrols, room clearing and CQB drills, combat simulations and drills, and so on.

>>33210349
Airforce

>>33212714
How were you fucked over? PT'd to death?

>>33212141
>that shitty normalfag-tier meme edit

God, I hate how social media gets a hold of every single meme and beats it to death.

>>33208132
If I need glasses but I don't have them should I somehow get glasses before I go to MEPS?

>>33210456
You had a roomate when going to MEPS? or your roomate went with you to MEPS?

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What's the lifestyle like as an 11 bangbang in the Ranger Regiment? Are they more professional?

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>>33208132
Anyone australian army here?
I was an army cadet in my high school unit for years, would you say that was a good preparation? Or are the skills not really applicable to the real army?

>>33214129
being a ranger is just like being a regular 11b, except you do a lot more PT, shoot a lot more, shoot at people a lot more, deploy more, and get cooler toys. The standards for grooming and other army bullshit are also relaxed somewhat too. The catch is you've gotta put out 100% 100% of the time or you're gone.

Anyone here have any experience with 89D?

I know the fail rate is 70% but it's what I want to do. I've already had the physical at MEPS go back this week to swear in sign paperwork.

Any advice? Made a 90 on the asvab 115 GT.

>>33214177
Forsure, so no downtime huh?

Sounds like a good time for active anons

>>33214198
>fail rate is 70%
What are the common reasons why people wash out of EOD?

>>33214223
They party instead of study

>>33214214
eh it's usually PT and shooting most days when not deployed. Mainly PT.
It can be a very good time if you're good enough for it.

Is it a bad idea to drop out of college and pursue a career in the military?

>>33214257
You can go part time if you do the online thing.

>>33214231
I've never really been a social butterfly, am in shape but plan to be in much better after I leave for BCT April 4th. Pretty studious, have motivation and drive (as cliche as that sounds) think I'll do well?

>>33214257
Depends how many credits you currently have. Under 90 and think you really want to join the military? Go for it. Above 90? Finish your degree then pursue the military life by going officer or just enlist as a higher rank.

>>33214277
Tried the online thing, can't do it. I've tried but i really struggled with it.

>>33214288
Below 90 credits right. I'm mostly looking at the military because i feel stuck where i am and don't want to be stuck any longer.

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I want to be an Infantry Officer through OCS.

I'll have
>3.0 GPA, BS in E.E. from a state school
>300 APFT score

but no
>extra-curriculars
>references/recommendations

How fucked am I?

>>33214307
I have no idea what to tell you if it's a good choice or not but I'll tell you this.

I wanted to join since I was in high school parents wanted me to go to college. I did. Didn't do ROTC. Regretted it. Finished my degree last fall and decided to enlist. This is what I plan to do for my career. I hated school and hated my degree.
I am set to leave next month. Give it some thought. Go with what your heart says.

>>33214321
What's your degree in?

Also most of the time you can't pick your job after you commission through OCS. They give them out based on the needs of the army. You could end up as an MP.

>>33214321
Just read what your degree is. You will have zero problem getting in.

>>33214329
He says Electrical Engineering.

>>33214324
I'll probably be going down a similar path as you but I will hopefully find out some stuff about ROTC. I'll stick in school and try to get my degree. If you don't mind me asking, what MOS are you pursuing?

>>33214357
89D EOD, I'm the guy above asking for guidance about it.

>>33214357
If you want to do ROTC and are in college right now and plan to use rotc as a way to commission as an officer you better get in as fast as possible. You have to do 2 years of rotc before you graduate to be granted officer status iirc

I'm going into college this year for Aerospace Engineering and hope to get a pilot slot for OTS after I graduate. My grades were shit in high school so I can't go AFROTC or USAFA.
My question is, what GPA would I have to have to be virtually guaranteed a slot? I'm also an Eagle Scout.

>>33214329
Electrical engineering.

>They give them out based on the needs of the army.
Damn, is it true OCS candidates get the leftover MOS's from ROTC/Academy's draft?

>>33214336
I mean it's all right but I don't have any leadership experience, I hope it's not a big time qualifier...

Coz being a PL is all about leading men.

>>33214373
Good luck to you, hope it turns out well for you. Thanks for your help.

>>33214379
It's my first year of college now but i be in for a while, I'm looking into ROTC now

>>33214384
2.8 is the bottom of the barrel for engineering degrees. 3.4 is what you should have to be a good candidate. Good luck though. Cousin went to school for that changed over to mechanical after 2 years graduated with a 2.9.

>>33214386
You get the leftovers unless you are top in your class or at least in the top 20%.

Expect the top to pick aviation and the bottom to get stuck with quartermaster positions. Infantry is highly needed but they won't put just anyone in it as an officer.

>>33214324
>>33214279
Since you graduated from college, that means you know how to study proficiently....

Which probably means you'll have no problems in the academic department of EOD. As long as you got discipline to hit the books you wont be part of that 70% of washouts, im guessing.

>>33214416
>>33214416
Physically what are the challenges besides the mile run bomb suit? PT every night, the draining classes and the need to sleep around 8pm a night?

If you are EOD I'd love some input because since it's TP it's hard to find info on it.

>>33214437
I'm not EOD, i'm just another civilian anon.

I was just stating some common sense

>>33214291
Just try 1-2 classes at a time. It's much easier to juggle while working, even if it does take an extra year.

You can enlist, serve, and earn your degree, and in 5-6 years be set.

>>33214437
literally nothing you can do to prepare for EOD. You either have it or you don't. The best prep I can suggest is to find out how to decompression consistently every weekend.

>>33210368
BUT EQUALITY!

>>33214156
Rule 2, it's obvious as shit that you are still in cadets.

>>33213728
PT is easy when your body isn't broken, so no. I had the highest scores in MOS school, but they gave the awards and duty station pick to another guy. I ended up getting stuck on the detestable east coast, with an incompetent command, and a condemned barracks. I tried to move on to somewhere else so my life wouldn't conclude with suck starting an A4, but 6 months after I left that place the exposure to chemicals and mold finally got to me.

How viable is it to do 5 to 6 years in the army flying rotary wing then switching branches to the air force to pilot fixed wing? I'm 18 meaning I'm well within the time frame I would have to be within

>>33214099
It was the ASVAB/MEPS two parter, where they put you up in a hotel overnight before MEPS. I think it just helps them screen for alcoholics and shit a little easier.

>>33208132
went to talk to my recruiter today, he said that the reason he hasn't contacted me in 5 months is because my waivers keep getting denied.(2 charges but neither violent and both dismissed)
he says he keeps submitting them and hopes that with TRUMP, they will lift some restrictions so i can get approved.

it sucks but i guess i just need to keep waiting.

>>33208132
I have really shit eyesight and want to go for a 68w contract, maybe opt 40 down the line. If my astigmatism fucks me, do i really need some eye surgery to correct it?

Does medical stuff that you forgot about come up on a TS clearance investigation? It was 5 years ago and only my parents and the doctor know about it

>>33216014
everything comes up

They personally interview your childhood teachers too

>>33215788
What were the waivers for? Medical?

>>33216067
No, for criminal charges but they were both dismissed.

Can anybody tell me more about EOD?
What would be the average day during deployment for them and in general for everyone else?
Thought about joining as an officer after college.

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I want to visit a recruiting office later today. Id like to be a medic in the army but I know absolutely nothing about it.

Tired of home life and I'm tanking college because of it, I need an out for awhile and I dont see any other options open to me aside from the military. Any advice? Ill do something regardless, but id like to have some idea what before I jump head first into it.

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Astigmatism and near sighted. With -1.75 correction in both eyes, am i fugged? Blind as a bat without my glasses.

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Any britbongs here? If so, say someone happened to have pic related tattooed on their chest, would it fuck their chances of getting into the army?

>>33214092
It doesn't matter. They didn't even look at my glasses

>>33215816
You'll get a waiver. Astig is easy

>>33215788

I know that feel, bro.

Do you have any letters of recommendation to help counterweight the charges? Authority figures enjoy giving second chances to young men joining the military, and sometimes it's enough to put stuff over the top.

>>33217102
Are you correctable to 20/20?

>>33217161
Just say its some viking shit or something

>>33217498
That's what I was thinking, though I'm not sure how clued up they are on these sorts of symbols.

>>33217161

It's a Germanic Pagan symbol that looks cool. Any aspersions toward it being a neo-nazi symbol of any kind are ignorant and false.

>Have a Chiari malformation
>Have ADHD
>Just got a letter back from the military saying that the Chiari malformation is not an issue, if I can be off ADHD meds for a year I am good to join.

I am so fucking happy.

I'm in University, so I kinda use the medication to keep my GPA up, but does anyone have tips to get off the medication? Its Concerta 54mg

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How does ROTC as a transfer student go?

Just found out the school I'm transferring to from a CC, has a dedicated ROTC program. I'm pretty excited to try it out!

I enlisted 15 years ago this past weekend. I didnt even realize it til a dude that was in my basic training flight posted on facebook.

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how the hell do I schedule a PHA

>>33217628
Quit taking it

>>33217102
Get contacts

I'm -2.00 and wear monthly ones that you put in and forget about, sleep in them too

I'm 32. College grad currently working as a bartender. In the best shape of my life. No kids (yet). Just got engaged. I'm looking to join either the reserves or the national guard. Any advice for an oldfag like me?

>>33218441

What do you want out of the reserves or national guard? A second paycheck, job skills, what?

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How do I know which branch to commission in? I'm interested in combat roles and special ops if I get in and it seems like I'm right for it, but there are combat roles and special ops in every branch, how do I decide? Are benefits for officers better in some branches? Will there be more opportunities for combat as an officer in some branches over others?

>>33218568

>Interested in combat roles and special ops

You and every other current and would be infantry officer. What I'm gathering is this:

>You don't want to do anything too complex that isn't directly a combat operation.

That means no Special Forces or AFSOC period. It also probably means no MARSOC. That leaves you with:

-Rangers
-SEALs
-Force Recon
-Scout Sniper (?)

Force Recon is cycled through regiment and battalion so you'd have no certainty of your billet with all of the administrative hoops that officers have to jump through with getting shuffled between assignments. Same general cycling with Scout Sniper, if they even let Officers serve in that capacity.

Rangers has every Infantry Officer going to Ranger school. You would be competing with 2/3 of Army Infantry Officers who hold tabs and would love to command Rangers. Good luck with that.

I don't know much about SEALs, but they're probably your best bet.

Here is my prediction.

>You shoot for an SOF billet in Rangers, SEALs, or Force Recon
>You get to attempt the schools because Officer
>You hit various administrative snarls as an officer depending on what you go for, maybe you get in maybe you don't and it has nothing to do with school performance
>Eventually your career trajectory takes you away from SOF as a consequence of transfers or promotion
>Now you're a staff officer and your job is to administrate and navigate the internal politics of the military to get shit done

If you were open to doing something in higher demand like STO, CRO, or 18A you'd be able to stay active in the field for longer as a Commissioned Officer before getting reshuffled back into the deck, but those roles are not what you seem to be looking for.

>>33218568

Army gives you the most career flexibility since it's so large and has so many roles. Army also owns most of the "cool" schools.

Just remember that officers compete for roles, they don't get to pick them. Do not commission if you're just going to be miserable as a logistics officer.

>>33218713
Actually I'm an anthropology major and am very interested in Special Forces (Green Beret same thing?), I don't know anything about AFSOC or MARSOC. Not sure what you mean when you talk about being "reshuffled back into the deck", or several other phrases ("cycled"). Are you bitter about something? Why would SEALs be a better bet than Ranger school?
>>33218793
How do officers "compete for roles"? Also, what does "cool" mean?

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>tfw sub nuke

>>33218544
I want to serve my country. I want to receive the best military training in the world. I want better insurance. I want comraderie. I want to be a part of something greater than myself. Also, I want to remove kebab.

>>33219044

>How do officers "compete for roles"? Also, what does "cool" mean?


For ROTC/OCS you have a wishlist of what basic branch you want (Armor/Infantry/Intel/Aviation/etc), then you get assigned a basic branch depending on how well you stack up against your classmates.

"Cool" schools as in stuff like Airborne, Air Assault, Pathfinder, Ranger, Sapper etc. Since the Army has the largest training budget, they own most of those schools and other services send their personnel if necessary.

>>33219074
How do they decide who "stacks up" well? Is there a good source where I could read about all this myself? I don't want to waste the space in this thread, but it seems like all the sources I've found are either extremely biased or don't include a perspective of the whole picture and how different elements relate to each other.

>>33219045
Literally the most autistic rate in the military

>>33219196
I would think sonarman would be up there. It takes a special level of autism to memorize all the fucking sonar signatures

>>33219218
Yeah nuke, sonar tech, and CTIs are almost always socially awkward.

>>33219044

Green Berets do not primarily do what is referred to as Direct Action. They can, but it isn't their primary role.

>Not sure what you mean when you talk about being

Say you pass the Q course, or go to Ranger school and get tabbed, or make it into Force Recon. You might wind up getting assigned to do something totally unrelated in spite of your training in those fields. You might pass the Q course and get sent to infantry. You might make Force Recon and get sent to run a regular infantry unit after your time there instead of to Recon if there are no slots for you.

>Why would SEALs be a better bet than Ranger school?

Because they fulfill the same role but the Navy doesn't have nearly as many Officers slugging it out for a spot commanding SEALs.

>>33219113
Look up Army branching OMLs. College GPA and physical fitness are the largest factors.

>>33219265
>>33219253
Great, thanks both of you. How accurate will information I get regarding these things be from a recruiter? I've heard they tell you whatever they want as long as it gets you to sign your name.

>dig through DoD publications for half an hour to determine if I have something that disqualifies me
>find that I do
>it's trivial enough that even trained professionals normally don't notice I have it
As someone who likes telling the truth too much, I'd like to know what normally triggers a medical waiver. My fitness has skyrocketed over the past few months, the diagnosis is nearly 12 years old now and I never needed treatment for it (it was mainly a formality for the school). Assume that someone somewhere in the government knows I have it. "You're fucked" is an acceptable answer, but I'd like to know how fucked if so.

>>33219717
1. what medical issue is it?

2. lie

Ayy what's up non-rates. Which branch should I give the privilege and honor of benefiting from my vast operator skills?

>>33220007
Army national guard

>>33220096
Hmm, I was thinking border patrol.

>>33217753
Are you still in? Did you enjoy it?

I'm enlisting now as an officer.
I have an interview coming up.
What does that entail?

>>33222409
>enlisting as an officer

memes aside, don't eat the sandwich and you should be good

>>33222425
I assume you mean don't become a stuck up asshole. Gotcha covered there

I'm more worried about the specifics of the interview.

>>33222454
>I assume you mean don't become a stuck up asshole

no, I mean don't eat the sandwich

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>>33222692
Ok....

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What are the biggest differences between joining the Navy and joining the Air Force?

>>33223090
Time spent on a boat

>>33224112
Assuming I don't get seasick, how is boat life?

>>33212570
Conscription is a moral Obligation

Also because you want to be on a boat without having to be in the Navy

Everyone on here talks about airborne and ranger and special this/that when talking about infantry
What about just normal infantry? Are there particularly cool and particularly shitty units of that kind?

>>33224804

Some people are all about that life. Some people aren't. Many of the people who would be about that life do not lurk 4chan.

hi /meg/ I am curious about a few things.
I got admitted to four colleges and now I am torn between joining the army as 11x (then hopefully go 11b) or just attending college then joining as an officer

for me, i would prefer just to do a 3 year contract then go onto college, but I just wanted to get some vets or peoples inputs

thank you so much if you reply, your reply could possibly change my future

thanks

>when you hack a twitter in the east coast to gaslight a john into another badger game at your retail store in the midwest

>>33225294
Non of what you said makes any sense.

>>33225348

What he typed makes sense, but not in the context of /meg/.

>>33225358
So he hacked a twitter, denied some stuff, and managed to get a customer? Sounds like a scumbag that should fuck off from /meg/

>>33225369

No. Most likely he pretended to be someone he wasn't, enticed a dude to proposition the person that he wasn't for pay to play, and is trying to blackmail them into buying shit to launder the money from the blackmail.

Or, you know, it may or may not have even happened.

So how many of /meg/ are actually in the service and who are the Leddit keyboard warriors?
All these posts seem to be made by civvies

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if one joins the army, how do they get into the big red 1?

>>33225509
Keyboard warrior, plan on enlisting a little before/after I'm 22.

I'm a sheltered neet with no job experience, a 3.6 math degree, and no passion for anything.

Is joining the navy really an option for me? I just want to start a career at this point. I'd like to be in a few years and learn some skills that could take me someplace else.

>>33225518

Pretty much just ask for Fort Riley. Nobody wants to be stationed in Kansas.

>>33225636
You and every other nuke inna fleet

>>33219045
dun goofed

>>33225636
How old are you?
What are you interested in doing for some years?

>>33225518
Don't. 1ID tanker here, deployment schedules for the forseeable future are terrible (kuwait, germany, korea, rumor has it us as QRF later), brigade and battalion level leadership is tactically incompetent and don't give a fuck about soldiers' personal lives. The only positive experience you could have is at the company level, and that's far from a guarantee (although my company is relatively great). Even if that changes by the time you finally graduate, the area itself sucks. The most common past time is going to Manhattan to get drunk on the weekends on a single strip, a couple run-down shady as fuck strip clubs, and an indoor shooting range. Although if you're perfectly fine being a barracks rat you'll be alright.

Trust me, there's no special reason to join 1ID. Like you, I was at first excited coming to the most 'prestigious' division in the Army. But honestly, the Army has destroyed any sense of heritage and unit pride. The division level is non-existent because, besides being so large scale there's few tangible effects of their leadership, everything moves at the brigade level. Modern divisions are little more than a couple brigades at the same post, or arbitrary decisions by brigades as to what unit patch they wear. Even battalion doesn't matter because they deactivate and reactivate every few years, with only a few exceptions. It will mostly be company level, and even then it's because the other companies always fucking suck.

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>>33226728
Also when the fuck do they ask you where you want to go? We never got that even though I keep hearing about it.

-

My own post: My command is treating me like a warm body to the detriment of not just myself, but my current platoon and my old one, and an old gunner who passed SF selection is suggesting I go myself (I have the confidence of both him and all the important people in my old platoon). I've already talked to the recruiter.

>My current plan is to go if my CO keeps me in training room, else if I get a gunner spot, ride it out for a few months. (I'm not treating SF as a back up, I just want to see if I can get a well rounded experience on tanks before saying goodbye) Is being SF good enough that I should just sign right up?
>I'm leaning towards SF but psyops (dat 125 GT and 120+ every other line score.. but fuck civil affairs) is an option. Suggestions on either or?
>Rangers also appeals to me, but I've heard it's basically full retard but high-speed grunts. Not that it turns me off, but I've heard it's difficult to get into Ranger school without first reclassing. Should I just forget about that and go SF?

>>33225263
ROTC?

>>33228205
I would prefer not to do ROTC

>>33226947
What does that mean? I'm new to all this.

>>33227455
I'm open to anything. I'm leaning more towards technical/engineering type stuff, but again I just want to have something in my life.

>>33228672
Why? If you you're going to go to college knowing you want to go in as an officer after, it'd be stupid not to. Sounds like you really just want to enlist.

>>33214156
NZ Fag here, hated those pers that were cadets and felt that they learnt anything doing it that was actually applicable to army life... Besides drill. That they could do.
If you do end up joining just remember that you know only how to do drill and nothing more, even then don't be a jackass correcting people none stop.

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Between the Army and the Marines, which would be a better choice of branch?

>>33229773
Coastguard

>>33229800
I'm trying to establish a list of branches that I would most to least like to commission into.

So far it's:
Air Force
Navy
Coast Guard
And then the Marines or the Army

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I'm going to become a corpsman in the navy, leaving in a month. How is the job? Did I goof or is it a decent rate? Also any advice?

I don't want to go medical in the private sector, I'm doing this job because it seems honorable and if I ever get into a rut outside the military I'll try applying my skills to a career. I just want to skate through my 6 years, get laid, drink, and travel as much as possible. How can I reasonably achieve these noble goals?

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Will WW3 be fun?

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What's a day in the life of an Infantry Platoon Leader?

I've seen Nick Bare's YT channel but I want /meg/s opinion...

>>33230435
It would be very painful

>>33217713
They might double you up on your respective ROTC classes if you plan on graduating early, for example if you're Army you might be doing both MS1 classes and MS2 classes in one year. Other then that nothing really is different.

t. Transfer student in ROTC

>>33228921
Navy Nuclear. Work on nuclear power plants. Use that to work on nuclear power plants in civilian life. Go contact a navy recruiter or something.

>>33231987
Cool are we still eligible to get the scholarship?

I'm entering this Fall, when should I reach out to the recruiting officer?

I was reading I must attend a summer camp in KY for 30 days, to catch up or something - what's that about?

Thanks for answering my questions

Has anyone ever taken the DLAB tests?

It sounds pretty intense having to pick up a made up language on the spot

>>33232005
I looked into that on their page a while back and it seemed really interesting. I definitely wouldn't mind studying/working towards that especially if it can lead to good career.

I'd imagine it's not the easiest to get into though. Any other suggestions or tips for making it? I plan to contact my local recruiter once I'm done getting in shape.

>>33232011
Yeah your still eligible for scholarships, just make sure your ROTC department lines you up with the paperwork needed and try to take the DoDMERB ASAP. Also try to reach out with them soon

However I'm going to throwout a disclaimer that I go to a SMC so ROTC is mandatory, so I can't answer all of your questions.

Is there any reason to joining infantry while in peacetime?

>>33232051
Study for the ASVAB. If you get in they'll put you through A school which will be a pain in the ass and lasts, I think, two years.

Afterwards you'll have most of the credits to be an actual nuclear engineer, except for some general ed credits you'll have to get yourself.

You may also want to contact your recruiter about the Delayed Entry Program.

>>33229065
is it bad that i really just want to enlist and not make it a career?

>>33231944
For you.

>>33232049
It's extremely hard

>>33216505
It's kind of hard to pin down what an "average" day is, because there is a lot of variation. I guess that's a selling point compared to a lot of other deployment jobs where you do the same thing, the same way, over and over.

You do conventional mounted and dismounted IED calls, you embed with units pushing forward as organic IED support. You move with conventional units who are driving/walking/flying into capture somebody or get a cache, you are called to dispose of ordnance for units, you do SOF support for HVT and cache and those kinds of missions, you work with spooky spooks to occasionally spook mission.

EOD officer is an ok job. You will do a little bit of deployment work, but spend more time organizing after-action-reports and then giving reports to mouth breathing officers on "IED working groups" who don't know shit about IEDs or ASW.

Stateside, you'll train a LOOOOOOTTTT and do semi-regular support for local cops.

My girlfriend wants to join the airforce cause she has no direction in life, is poor, and is small.

What careers should she go for/what is life like in the airforce? Besides the fact she'll be banging every guy on base

>>33233911

Not every guy on base. The military has otakus too. Plus some of them will be off base.

>>33233911
>air force
Yeah, that chick is gonna be busy servicing the Army and Marines. Enjoy your future child that may or may not be yours.

>>33219045
sub(marine) nu(c)k(l)e(ar) engineer/technician? with a degree and specialized training?
or does that refer to anyone who lives on a submarine?

>>33233947
No shit there is a military recruitment general on a Korean cave painting website

>>33233974
I'm infertile so we're adopting anyway

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>>33233992
Doesn't adoption fall into cuckoldry? Raising another man's seed?

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>>33232284
To say you did it.

Joining Infantry in general is a bad idea if you've got a yearning to cultivate skills. I honestly fear for some of my friends, because they enlisted into the Army and Marines right out of high school, got married, had kids, and now that their contracts are just about to end and they've got nothing to show for their experience.

What MOS do I take to get to use the RQ-11 Raven?

>>33234007
It's not cuckold if you can't sire your own children. it's surrogates I think

>>33234218
Cuckold: A term based off of the behavior of a cuckoo, a bird that makes other birds raise its young while the surrogate parent birds' genetic lineage dies. The surrogate parent is a cuckold.

Those who adopt are cuckolded by the actual parents of the adopted seed.

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>>33229816
Air Force
Navy
Coast Guard
Army
Muhreens

>>33232376
Alright will do. Thanks man.

>>33234243
>In evolutionary biology, the term is also applied to males who are unwittingly investing parental effort in offspring that are not genetically their own.

I know the kid isn't mine, theirfor not cuckold

how to i stop my legs from hurting after a run?
did 1.5 miles in 12 minutes today followed by another 1.5 mile run in 13 (need to get it down to 10) after and now my calves are hurting like a motherfucker
>inb4 lose weight

guys i got an 82 on the pre-asvab
>am i retarded ?
>SF Army or Navy SEALs ?

>>33234917
Just keep running and they toughen up

>>33235238
i run 2-3 times a week
could the scoop of preworkout i take be pumping my calves too much?

>>33235152
No. You should get at least 90 on the actual asvab.
Army SF ofc, but don't do 18x unless you're already a fucking stud.

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SF86 horror stories.

Give them to me.

>>33235338
Unless you lied about actual felonies, are deeply in debt, or are a terrorist you'll be fine

>>33235291
i'm a diamond in the rough grinding away each day...


anyway, what would you suggest?


also.. quick question, drug history but never have been convicted, or caught.. nothing
will be clean for 4-7 months depending on when test will be done ... comment?

>>33235412
>depending on when test will be done

stop now retard

>>33234243
>a bird that makes other birds raise its young while the surrogate parent birds' genetic lineage dies.
His genetic lineage is already dead no mater what he does.

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>tfw the Marines meme is becoming harder to ignore
I feel the call to go full retard. What are the upsides to being a Marine?

>>33235835
I second this.

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Don't know if this is just limited to American military enlistment, so I'll just post this here.
I'm attempting to join the Canadian Forces, and am trying to decide between going Army or Navy. I originally intended Army, but it's a family tradition to join, and there's a strong anti-army sentiment; Navy or Airforce are the "acceptable" paths. I'm deciding between Infantry Soldier and Boatswain for the MOS, any advice?

If i go national guard 25D, with the proper ASVAB scores but no college experience, how do i do that?

end goal is to get the government to pay for my college, but my highschool GPA is shite so i can't get into a good college for Cyber security.

>>33212717
Youre a total pussy, you went to the er for anxiety....

>>33208132

MOS-Q 35F with two years in service, here.

If there's a 42A with access to EDAS here, pipe up, please.

Thanks, will answer 35F questions.

>>33235835
Dress Blues, literally nothing else

just go rangers

>>33235986
Just signed my 35F contract. Anything you feel like is essential to know going into the MOS?

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>be me
>want to join memereens because of the prestige and vibe it comes with
>only want to do it because i have nothing better to do

>the army offers shorter enlistment
>army offers better everything

looks like id be going into the army, but i don't think id feel as "accomplished" for lack of a better term.

>>33236118
Rangers

>>33236121
>SF
idk man. rangers or green berets would be cool as hell, but i don't plan on staying in that long. i just wanna get my feet wet.

>>33236158
as i hear it, the Rangers are the least SF force your can get.

>>33236158
Rangers aren't SF

>>33219069
>I want to serve my country.
Okay.

>I want to receive the best military training in the world.
Wellll you'll go to an active duty AIT for your first MOS. If you reclass you'll likely go to the reserve or guard version which can be better or worse. For example for CI/35L CISAC used to be in Huachuca for AD and at Devens in Massachusetts for reserve reclasses. In this situation it was a better training environment for reserve CI guys because they would go into Boston for field exercises whereas Sierra Vista is a podunk border town and the only thing they have going for them is Fort Huachuca.

>I want better insurance.

If you're reserve I believe you have to pay for Tricare Reserve Select or something. IIRC you're only fully covered for free during drill and orders.

>I want comraderie.

TBQH you may make friends in your unit but most of the time you'll only see each other once a month at drill.

>I want to be a part of something greater than myself.

Okay.

>Also, I want to remove kebab.

Unless you go into a National Guard unit as an 11x, 18x (not the 18X enlistment option, in the NG this is called Rep 63, the x is just a stand in for the MOS letter), or 19x you're probably not going to be seeing any combat if you deploy.

The Reserve only has one Combat Arms unit and it's in fucking Guam IIRC. So you can go into intel, civil affairs, or go to a battalion as pretty much any service support MOS that an active duty unit would have like a mechanic, cook, admin, commo etc. But units will vary based on your location and MOS are based on slots and rank. So a reserve intel battalion HHD might have slots for intel guys in their S2 shop, but they might only have slots available for E5 or E6 with the MOS you want. Or they might have slots for E4 and below.

>>33236093

I don't want to be an ass, but that's pretty vague. Tell me what you know and what you expect and I'll supplement.

>>33236176
>>33236209
is ranger school really tougher than seal training?

>>33236093
>Anything you feel like is essential to know going into the MOS?

The school house is almost 100% irrelevant to being an actually good analyst. At least this was the situation in 2007 when most of the school house revolved around teaching map reading and symbology.

What makes an actual good analyst is critical thinking (thinking about your thinking and work process to help identify biases), having a good base of knowledge to draw judgements from, the ability to write succinctly, clearly, and logically, and good research skills.

>>33232049
I heard some people claim that it wasn't that difficult for them to pass. I took it and while it was easy to do the parts where they teach you new grammer pieces at a time I fucked up and rushed through it instead of taking more time to memorize the rules. Once I was on the section where you have to use all of the new grammer rules at once I was pretty stumped. They allow you to look back at the rules but the test is timed meaning you don't have the luxury of re-reading for long. you're only allowed to listen to the audio for each answer once. The "language" isn't very difficult to listen to. It's english with different rules spoken in what sounded to me like a bad eastern european accent.

There's another section where you have to look at a series of images and find out the meaning of made up words that don't have anything to do with the previous section. I mostly trusted my gut on this part. I felt like I mildly understood some questions but was lost on others.

>>33236273
I honestly don't know what to ask. I've googled the shit out of it for a year before I signed. Anything you wish you knew about it before you went in?

>>33236307
I almost forgot, and it's something I don't think is pushed enough at Huachuca: SHOW YOUR FUCKIN WORK.

They are great about this on the academic side because you'll get laughed out of a conference for showing a bunch of bullshit (it may even be true) without being able to show your work and having an understanding of the underlying material. You'll get laughed out of a briefing for doing the same thing but I don't think the school house prepares you.

If I were tasked with redesigning the 35F AIT it would probably end up a lot longer and have academics and experienced civilian analysts to come in and teach rather than pulling junior analysts and E5s who might not have ever actually worked to run the school house.

>>33236303
BUDs is much worse unless you are already a fish.

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>>33235888
Wish I could help you but im US, take this bump though.

>and there's a strong anti-army sentiment
Why is this?

>>33236342

I wish I'd known that half of all the people in Intel are shit humans or mega-autists. They're all the smartest people they know.

I wish I'd known about how much personal initiative it takes to operate as a 35F, and you can operate if you have this initiative.

I wish I'd known about the fact that most people have no clue what we do and how little we actually do our job.

>>33236379
Why? I have no clue. They assume that being in the Army makes you a "knuckle dragger" and why they think this is beyond me.

>>33236385
>I wish I'd known about the fact that most people have no clue what we do

I chalk this up to the vast majority of people not even knowing what All Source Analysis is or it's function on the intel side of the Intel - Policy Maker relationship.

>and how little we actually do our job.

Part of this is that the civilians we are (were) working alongside (I got to work with DIA while deployed, it was pretty good) have educations and possibly more experience.

Which is why I would try to make AIT run more like a year long college course on Intel Analysis rather than the 16 week school on map reading and symbology it was.

>>33236430

Well, I meant as much as anything the fact that outside of war-gaming, there's nothing much for us to do when not combat deployed. I'm pretty lucky, I've gotten to work on some short-range operational work, if ya catch my drift. This makes me the second most experienced Fox in the unit.

That said, most people Battalion and higher think I'm a medic or armorer because I'm often found autistically screeching at broken weapons that I'm working with or standing in as acting on-site medic for ranges.

Upside? Lot of range time.

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I'm starting to be intimidated by the sheer amount of rape posters all over MEPS. I've been told I have an effeminate ass for a guy, should I be worried?

>>33236499

No, those are mostly there because of sensitive little faggots and lying whores.

Besides, we only fuck guys with blonde hair.

>>33236498
>there's nothing much for us to do when not combat deployed

That's another unfortunate thing: Units don't know what to do with all source analysts outside of deployment. Honestly it's going to require a complete shift in how the Army treats analysts and analytical training while not deployed. It really should be encouraged for units to send you to classes at CENTCOM or TDY to work with DIA or at COCOM G2 shops. It should also be encouraged by CoC to have you doing training during the duty day that's actually useful.

But that also requires leadership to understand what all source analysis even is and then understand how to use analysts.

>>33212721
have to serve 1 enlistment first but pretty sure any MOS can take the indoc

>>33213028
former 11B here

benning is no joke. neither is the AIT at hood. i've seen recruits get killed even when i was still in basic (which was only about 10 years ago now). i've seen recruits try and take their own lives. benning breaks you mentally and physically and rebuilds you. of course its probably been toned down now since women are allowed to enlist for combat. not to sound sexist but about 99% of the women i know wouldn't be able to march 26 miles with 150 pounds of shit between your ruck and your battle rattle.

AIT was 12 hours of hand-to-hand sparring, formation and tactics studies, and CQB drilling for 5 weeks every day. a lot of people shit on the army (and for good reason, i've seen some shit soldiers in the short time i was in) but its infantry is no joke

>>33236342
Not in yet.
Wish I knew you could pick your MOS before going in.
Always wanted to serve, fed a load of lies about it from family.

>>33236564

Shhh, don't give my unit any ideas. I'm up for PCS and ready to go to a unity that needs me. In the meantime, I'll remain cleverly disguised as a Medic or Small Arms repair.

>>33235277
lol no, seriously just keep running through it and you will have legs of steel

also get a roller, I thought it was just a meme at first but it actually helped my legs a lot

>>33236176
rangers are the most durable soldiers the US military has to offer. capable of surviving for weeks away from their FOB on minimal supplies and direction. land nav techniques second to none and often work jointly with other SOCOM forces

>>33236209
the 75th rangers are indeed "SF" if by SF you mean part of USSOCOM

>>33236675
>are indeed "SF"

They aren't. In the US Army SF is used specifically to identify the Special Forces Groups. Those in these groups that are Special Forces Qualified (made it through SFAS and SFQC and are on an SFODA/B/C) have a separate Career Management Field (18A, 180A, 18B, 18C, 18D, 18E, 18F, 18Z).

>>33236176

Shhhh, shhh, Rangers are SOF... SOF that isn't blocked to under 21, if that tells you anything.

>>33236675
Rangers are SOF but not SF.

>>33236704
I know this, I even went on to describe the context I was using the term SF in. Depending on what branch, SF could also mean security forces. Many people I know who have served or are still in use SF to describe any sort of specialty group really. Whether it be pararescue, SEAL, Army Special Forces, what have you

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Is Ranger School the hardest school in the military?

I know it's a leadership course for the most part but I also hear it's extremely physically demanding, stories like they don't let you eat and sleep, takes years off your knees, and the dreaded swamp section...

It's one of the first thing Infantry Officers do right after Basic Officer Leaders Course (BOLC) at Benning - and if you don't do it then and there, you may not have a shot later.

>>33236761
Many people you know are wrong.
And given the context, it's clear "SF'' was not referring to the Air Force Security Forves.

>>33236907
CCT is way harder

>>33236907
Hard? yes. Hardest? no, not even close. BUDs is the hardest in my Opinion cause of the underwater aspect, but the Q course has alot more academia to it.

>>33236907
the sleep deprivation is the hardest part. you're allowed maybe a few hours every 24 and you get it when you can. they teach you to make a single MRE last a few days while continually moving and thinking. and the knees thing is accurate. considering the vast majority of rangers are also airborne. was recommended for knee replacement when i was 20

>>33236907

Listen. Listen.

AFSOC is easily the toughtest if not one of the toughest.

Imagine being attached to an SOF unit when you have twice the training that they have. Imagine being trained to do the job of 2-3 people, pulling their weight, and having zero recognition outside of the people who know better.

Imagine cutting a block of C4 within precise measurement and the demolitions guy being the only one who knows that you have it just so. Imagine speaking the local dialect just as the unit knows it. Imagine being medically trained the way that an 18D is trained and never being known.

Imagine walking through an Army office and somebody who is a junior officer or random Army enlisted talking shit because you are Air Force. Imagine having to salute some faggot in the Army Rangers who is a 1LT fresh out of tech school as a man who has done four deployments after two years of solid training.

Imagine giving up the possibility of dealing with shitheads who have no idea what you have sacrificed or what you have done discounting your service.

Now imagine smiling and laughing it off because you have done so much shit that these fucking jackasses cannot even imagine what you do for a living even as members of the military, infantry, and/or SOF.

Do you want to see that shit, deal with it?

>>33236956

>BUDs is the hardest

CCT and PJs go through BUDs as part of their training.

>>33236959

Hell Day, 20 hours.

>>33236986
Oh I wasn't saying one was more difficult than the other. Just giving personal experience. I've heard the horror stories of BUDs

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>tfw would actually want to be a cook
>tfw would feel like im cheating myself by not doing combat
>too pussy to fight
>would be looked at as a joke by all military folks
>would be looked at as a joke by people on the home front too.

>Hey! you're in the army!
>yep thats right!
>WOW! thats so cool! you must kick so much ass!
>w-well im a cook!
>uhhh....oh...
>y-ya.....

>>33237144

Be a cook in the Coast Guard. They do... stuff.

>>33237144
Although you still work all day, cooks in the military get taken care of way better than most civilian counterparts.

>>33237144
>>33237144
No one is going to look down on you in the military, man. Fuck what the civilians think btw. At least you'd be helping your fellow service member, and that alone is worth taking pride in. Combat isn't for everyone, and thats ok. You can still help in other ways. Thats always a good thing too Anon. Go see your local recruiter for (insert your branch choice here) and sign up.

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How do I into Army Sniper? I'm a good shot.

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>Friend has 20/15 eye sight
>Took him to a range
>He outshot both me and my dad
>Dad is an awarded pistol master
>Even he is like "your friend is a natural"
>This guy is basically cut out to be a warrant officer flying something or shooting a gun
>Has fucking epilepsy
>Over the past five years has only had three episodes, all of which involved switching or coming off of meds that he probably never needed in the first place

Fucking pharma.

>tfw Chief Engineering hooking me up with interviews with O-6 and 2 O-5 aviators

fucking based CHENG

>>33233988
It generally refers to anyone onna sub that works in the engineroom.

>>33232376
>Afterwards you'll have most of the credits to be an actual nuclear engineer
This meme needs to fucking end, pronto. A bachelors in SCIENCE or Nuclear Engineering TECHNOLOGY is NOT the same thing as an ENGINEERING degree. That will take a little bit more schoolin'. Luckily there's the GI bill.

>>33233619
Thanks for the info bro, swearing in at MEPS today.

>>33238006
>A bachelors in SCIENCE or Nuclear Engineering TECHNOLOGY is NOT the same thing as an ENGINEERING degree.
And yet, I don't think he would have trouble finding a good job with 4 years of military experience working a nuclear reactor. With or without a degree.

>>33237426
Go infantry -> Become shit hot at drills, infantry skills, and especially land nav to stand out from peers -> do this and become trusted E4 -> Apply for recon platoon/recon section -> Get into recon platoon -> continue to be good at your job -> apply for sniper school when there is an opening -> sniper now sniping

It's not it's own MOS though. And like 10% of the job is shooting. The rest is sitting on lookout posts making notes and taking photos.

How much penis did you have to see in the military? Is it like high school gym all over again with guys peeing on each other in the shower and slapping each others' dicks?

I'm down to enlist but I don't want another 4 years of penistrauma,

>>33238326
Very true, that was not the statement needing correction

>>33238440
>being uncomfortable around dicks
What are you, a fag?

Hey guys, I enlisted in the Navy back in August. I'm in the DEP program and am shipping out next month. But I think I have a tumor on my testicles. I'm getting it checked out by a doctor next week. If it ends up being cancerous, is my military career ded?

>>33238461
>not wanting other guys to piss on you and slap your dick is gay now

Fucking millennials.

>>33235277

Just keep up what you're doing, keep pushing yourself to run further and faster. Once you can run around a 8-9 min mile pace for a 3 mile, start adding a half a mile per week to your workout. Not a half a mile to eqch run, half a mile total

Also make sure youre stretching a lot. Stretching is very important for injury prevention and should help with the pain

>>33217161
Yes, you would have to draw out and describe any tattoos that you have and they would see them during any medical inspection anyways.
Anyone worth half their salt would recognize a Black Sun and be very curious as to why you have it on your chest.

If you have aspergers can you join the military?

>>33208132
If I want to join the military but also want to purse a higher education, would joining the reserves be the way to go?

I'm 19 and I want to join the Marines, but I also really want to go to college. Any advice?

>>33239201
There are programs that will let you enlist and go to college, but they're extremely competitive. Reserves would probably be a good way to go.

>>33239238
This would be another question I didn't think of earlier. If I go reserves and decide college life isn't for me, would it be possible to transfer to active duty, and if so how much of a hassle would it be to transfer?

>>33239266
I have absolutely no idea tbqh. I would imagine that if you're in the reserves you can write going to college whenever you want. But if you're in the reserves AND the marines are paying your tuition, they probably won't let you get out of college that easy.

What happen if you fail a TS clearance for the navy

>>33240289
They'll just put you in a different job, but it'll most likely be a shit one.

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>>33240383
What happens if you're an officer that can't get secret clearance?

>>33240395
Say goodbye to your contract.

I actually don't know but I would be surprised if they kept you around.

>>33208498
Weight being too low isnt that bad of a problem, since boot camp will feed you 3 squares a day. As long as you have decent cardio and relative strength to your size (you're decent at pushups, pullups) you'll be fine.

Unless you're entering a strenuous rating. Then yeah, you should put on some muscle before going.

>>33236570
>>33236570

So Air Force Security Forces is no where near 11bang, which is what I figured just wanted to be sure.

>>33240395
Do you even get to be an officer? I had to clear for Secret before I even got comissioned

>>33209763
Starting shit with NCO's and JO's should not be a primary concern. There are times and places for questioning those superior to you, but this should always be done with the greatest consideration.

If you do plan on going in and "pushing buttons," as you say, well then, best of luck. Things will most likely not go very smoothly for you in any branch.

>>33210246
If you're looking for some simple minded, go where you're told, shoot at what everyone else is shooting at, choose Marine or Army infantry. To figure out which is most appealing to you, ask yourself: do I want to ride an airplane to my deployment or a boat? Many, more important differences remain between those two options, but your question was a simple one, and so a simple answer seems to fit best.

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>>33240395
This is a good question, what happens if you go ROTC, and you can't get clearance, can't enlist, and you can't pay back whatever you owe them?

>joining the military
are people still falling for this meme?

>>33240600
Can you provide an actual argument against joining the military?

>>33240611
>poor pay
>get treated like shit
>have to obey orders of subhuman retard officers
>if infantry, do nothing during peacetime
>many bases have nothing to do except get drunk in your free time

>>33240662
>poor pay

I dunno, paid for insurance, housing allowance and paid for college doesn't seem too bad.

>get treated like shit

That depends entirely on what branch and job field you choose.

>have to obey orders of subhuman retard officers

If you don't join the military you'll have to obey orders of subhuman retarded ((people)). I don't see much of a difference.

>if infantry, do nothing during peacetime

Don't go infantry then.

>many bases have nothing to do except get drunk in your free time

Do you need do to anything else?

>>33240662
>>33240697
forgot to add, the food is shit

>>33240724
Again, that entirely depends on what branch you're in.

I'm 22 and I graduated high school with a very poor GPA. Is it possible for me to become an officer?

>>33240785
Go to college, get a good gpa and apply for the ROTC scholarship.

Highschool GPA doesnt mean jack shit

How old is considered too old to join the military?

>>33240734
so, you mean to say that only the Air Force, Navy, and CG are worthwhile?

>>33240823
Pretty much, yeah.

Avoid the Marines at all costs. The Army COULD be good if you choose a good job.

The National Guard is also pretty worthwhile.

>>33240841
thanks, now I can shitpost with a more informed opinion

>joining the army/muhreens
are people still falling for this meme?

>>33240898
There we go anon.

Enjoy.

>>33240841
>>33240898
why does /k/ hate the muhreens so much

>>33241178

There's literally no upside to the memerines. They don't even have a purpose to exist as a branch anymore. 100 % of what they do is done by others and done better.

>>33241456
>100 % of what they do is done by others and done better.


This is so damn false it hurts.

>>33241456
Pretty much.

They only exist today to open a beachhead. And I guess MARSOC specializes in foreign internal defense.

Everything else/pog jobs are better done elsewhere with more funding.

>>33241520
Can the Army send its infantry anywhere in the world within 48 hours?

>>33241543
Yes! There is always a "Global Response Force" made up of some part of the 82nd and certain rotating support units to exactly provide this.

>>33241563
Airborne/AirAssault is way different than Amphibious Assault

>>33241563
I said Infantry not a small division of paratroopers. The Marines are cheap, effective and quick cannon fodder that gets the job done.

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>>33241586
>82nd Infantry is not infantry
>A Brigade Combat Team is a "small division"

>>33241581
>Moving goalposts

>>33241517
It's actually true though.

>vanguard role semper fi
Air Force and secret service can do this much better.

>fierce and aggressive first to fight
Army can do this with much better logistical support for ground wars.

>>33241586

>a small division

The Army can drop a BCT anywhere on earth faster than the Marines can get there. A BCT with more firepower and more support than the Marines can bring.

That isn't even getting into SOF elements that get to a fight *weeks* before the Marines.

Not to mention that most of the largest and most significant beach fighting in US history was done (and won) by the Army.

Literally the only thing the Marines do that the Army doesn't is embassy guard duty, and that's only because "muh tradition". Incidentally "muh tradition" is the only reason the branch continues to exist.

>>33236335
>memorize the rules
Lel if you were good at languages you would naturally and instantly pick then up

>>33241610
The 82nd still has less people than the Marines.

>>33241613
Secret Service is too small to do anything large scale.

>>33241616
>The Army can drop a BCT anywhere on earth faster than the Marines can get there

This is false.

>Not to mention that most of the largest and most significant beach fighting in US history was done (and won) by the Army.

The Marines invaded more beaches than the Army. What's your point??

As having spent 6 years in active duty Marines, I can easily say the Marines are much more capable than most are to believe.

>>33241665
>The 82nd still has less people than the Marines.
How many people, doctrinally, can be readied and deployed by the Marines in 48 hours? Unless you are actually implying the entirety of the Marine Corp can all at once up and deploy despite not being on standby for it.

By the way, the GRF can do this in 18 hours, not 48.

>This is false.
What Marine units and logistical supports are on standby for immediate deployment?

>As having spent 6 years in active duty Marines, I can easily say the Marines are much more capable than most are to believe.

So, you're talking out your ass because of moto? Shocking.

>>33241520
>>33241456
what about the brotherhood/camaraderie?

Anyone ever do AFROTC? I'm interested in doing it when i go to college.