First Gun

DPMS is garbage. That particular rifle is double-distilled, concentrated garbage.

>>33197992
What do you recommend for a beginner on a budget?

What is your budget?

>>33198013
Palmetto state armory kit and youtube instructional videos.

>>33198021
0-700 range, 700$ gun would have to blow me away

>>33198044
Can you build/assemble or do you have to buy pre-built?

Once you build your own you will probably never consider buying prebuilt. It makes more sense to build.

>>33198508
I can follow instructions well, I should be able to put one together ok. My plan was to spend a few days with it disassembling and reassembling any AR I bought to get comfortable with the weapon before I took it to the range. What's the skill level in putting a kit together?

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>>33197913
why need all bells and whistle, lever gun works fine. kill target dead.

>>33198600
Lots of Marlins at the show. Got to hold a Joslyn Carbine that was produced in the Civil War that was selling for 65k. They had some mint garands that made my dick hard but 1800 for a first gun purchase is ridiculous. Carbines we're going for 1200.

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>>33198558
Just basic mechanical skills. Familiarity with tools in general. If you can change the brakes on a car you can build an AR.

Aero precision lower or blem PSA lower. $50.00

Barrel: PSA FN CHF ultralightweight midlength. $225.00


ALG QMS lower parts kit. $80.00

PSA premium BCG. $80.00

B5 Bravo stock and handguard. $85.00

DD rear sight. $70.00

BCM gunfighter grip. $26.00

BCM gunfighter mod 4 charging handle. $50.00

A2 flash supressor. $8.00

BCM blem upper receiver. $50.00

QD endplate. $25.00

Milspec receiver extension, buffer, and spring. $60.00

Shopped the sales, so didn't pay the above retail values. Spent around $700-$750. Put together in about 45 minutes. The tools you need to put it together are tools you need to have anyway to maintain and work on your rifle.

With a safe full of ARs of equal or higher value, this is the one I go to first. It is dripping with KISS quality and you can feel it when you hold and shoot it. My favorite AR. Too bad I built it for the wife and it's hers.

>>33198650
you can by a 336 for 400 buckaroos NIB

Build a PSA off of an upper and lower half. The blemished ones are perfectly fine. Anything other than PTAC will do you just fine. Alternatively, you can buy a M&P Sport II online and have it transfered to a local shop; those are great quality & value rifles as well.

If you want a Marlin lever gun, stay away from ~2010-2014 production years. Before or after is fine.

>>33198681
A Remlin? No thanks.

A real Marlin 336 is always something nice to have though.

>>33197913
How long have you been shooting OP? Just curious.

But if you want a rifle get an m&p 15 brand new. You can find them for around that price and brand new. I love mine.

>>33198013
>>33198040
https://georgiagunstore.com/index.php/s-w-m-p15-sptii-556nato-16-30rd-blk.html
525 shipped + FFL fee

OR

The better option if you want to pay a bit more
http://www.brownells.com/firearms/rifles/semi-auto/ac-15-5-56x45mm-nato-16-mid-length-rifle-prod82606.aspx

This + whatever sights and mag you want.

>>33198654
That's fantastic. Do you have any info about building a m16a2 from kit parts? What about a build in the 500 range so I can spend extra on mags, a nice case and quality ammo?

>>33198732
Haven't shot since I was a kid in the country doing everything wrong ("want to see my dads guns?"). So about 15 years. I'm looking to start with a really user friendly weapon, a kind of get off work early and go to the range kind of hobby shooting.

>>33198732
Opinion on the ruger ar556? That was 630 on sale at the show, felt less basic than the Oracle but 500 seemed like a steal

>>33198739

16" barrel on carbine gas = why?

Those barrels look to be gov't profile or even hbars. Yuk.

Better than DPMS, but still meh.

>>33198860
what do you want out of 500 dollars pre built man

>>33198860
because any shorter would be an SBR?

>>33198739
>S&W
Don't do this
>AC-15
>government profile, QPQ meme
Don't do this.

>>33198934
You got me there.

A pre-built is always going to save the bucks somewhere.

TANSTAAFL

>>33198984
>m-muh hillary hole

>>33199001
I'm sorry, are we talking about revolvers here?

>>33198745
Never built an A2.

You could save on the barrel and get something cheaper. I wouldn't, but you could. A good case doesn't cost much more than $25 - $35 and magazines are only $8.00 or so each.

>>33199072
Not him but if you really want to be cheap OP, you can get a case on craigslist or armslist for like 10 bucks. That's what I did.