Milsurp 2; Rise of the milsurp

>>33185673
>two kraut Mausers nearby
>One is Russian capture, on high end of price, but it was owned by a gunsmith and it shows. Rough on outside though.
>Other has been refinished and is a bit rough, but still has kraut eagles
>Both seem too high but inner wehraboo makes me want to buy them anyways.

Goddammit I hate liking German weapon design, it just feels like a huge trap when it comes to buying anything made by them.

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>>33185909
How high are we talking exactly?

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Muhst recent 'surp, with muh second-most recent 'surps.

>>33185909
Just do your research, and if it's legit and you like it buy it.

>>33185992
A 1891 has been singing me siren songs lately...I don't know if I can resist...

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>>33185968
Russian capture $550 out the door

The other is the Frankenstein Mauser I've posted in the past. Technically $500 but they may go down more if I keep waiting and nobody touches it or if I buy something else with it.

The problem is one is nice mechanically with an absolute ass stock, the other is kind of crap mechanically but the stock is nice, even if its refinished.

Essentially I need to be smart and not impulse buy.

>>33185992
I have been, hence why I didn't snap either up.

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>>33186022
posted a shit pics sorry, here's a better one of the Russian capture

>>33186022
That's not unreasonable for a Russian capture these days. I'd pick it up, if a 98k wasn't so low on my priorities list I mean.

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>>33186050
everything I was seeing put that at the high end for a Russian capture. Did they go up in price recently?

This one has been counterbored so I assumed that lowered the value. The stock also has a few fairly significant chips. It looks like somebody fought a gator with it and resorted to multiple buttstrokes halfway through.

>>33186087
It's about $50 more than most of Russian captures I see these days, and that's not counting things like shipping or transfer or whatever. Doesn't look too bad either from your pictures.

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>>33186100
main reason I thought it was high was because the eagles were gone.

Huh, I'll need to think about it then

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What are some essential milsrup?

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I have to march with a mauser 1891 argentine. They are pretty rusted, any advise on how to clean them ?

>>33186186
Whatever you think is cool. And a Mas 36.
>>33186194
Penetrating oil and brass wool/a rag.

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Working on filling my crate/coffee table with all variations of mosin, I kno it's meme gun, but once I got my first I fell for the history and mysticism that now I have to fill the crate

>>33186217
but where do I learn?

>>33186194
>Found all matching 1891 Argentine Mauser carbine at local funstore.
>Tons of cartouches, stock looks great, rifling and bore pristine
>looks gorgeous
>Some idiot bent the bolt in his garage

goddammit I was mad.

>>33186235
Learn what?

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>>33186240
Fucking bubba.

>>33186233
added bonus that when it comes time to rise up against the fascists you can smash in your table and arm your party guests in seconds.

>>33186253
Very true, I've even thought about hauling the whole crate to the range, and getting 9 or 19 random people to volley fire them all at once

Hey guys, so I dun goofed and absent mindedly bought 7.62x54r soft point with 150 gr load.

Im going to the range to shoot, should I just ammo dump it or is it worth saving for another use like, say, hunting?

Somebody give me guidance.
I have 2 M39 nuggets

>a 1944 B-Barrel. They were assembled post-war with left over barrels from a Belgian contract, unissued and pristine, and they stand out very obviously to anybody who knows the Finn rifles, since the bluing is plum color.
>a 1942 VKT, with very good bore and otherwise good to average stock and bluing. The only special thing about it, is that it's on an 1896 Izhevsk receiver.

I also have a PE scope and Hex mount, and I'm sitting on the fence about scoping one of these rifles to make a replica of the ~200 M39s the Finns scoped with captured PEs

Do I scope out the post-war made B-barrel, even though it's blatantly obvious to anybody who knows anything about M39s that it's a "fake"

Or do I scope out the wartime VKT rifle, and put holes into the precious Pre-1899 Receiver, but create something that's similar enough to a real Finn M39 SOV that you'd need a real expert to differentiate it?

>>33186246
about what milsurp rifles even exist

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Two old carbines.

>>33186367
for the love of God don't carve up that wartime receiver. If you have to modify one, do it to the rifle made after the war, although I'm pretty sure even with that one it will hurt the value.

>>33186367
also isn't kaptabilly trying to sell a rifle that's already set up like this?

>>33186386
what are those?

>>33186389
That's where I'm hung up though.
These rifles are keepers, I'm not getting rid of them any time soon, so resale value doesn't concern me.

Historical accuracy kind of does, though - which is why I'm not feeling scoping out the obviously post-war rifle - at that point, I might as well get a commercial scope for it, it's a historical abortion anyway.
But even then, it feels evil to drill and tap into an 1896 receiver on a rifle that saw war, even if the end product is extremely authentic.

>>33186397
No idea who that is.

>>33186451
it would still be damaging a historical piece with something it didn't come with. If it was a temporary thing that's one thing but this involves drilling. Don't do it. You know it to be wrong.

Also kaptabilly is the namefag that started the thread, he was trying to sell a Finn rifle already set up exactly like what you're doing if I remember right.

>>33186408
A Kar 88 and a Mle 1890 Berthier carbine upgraded to the 1916 pattern.

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>>33186308
Do you hunt with a x54 rifle? Because if so then yeah save them I guess. Otherwise just use them for plinking. I use soft point bullets now and then (usually when they're the cheapest available).
>>33186367
Neither. Buy my PU m39 and fuck with that instead.
>>33186382
Books, internet.

>>33186233
Neato. Did you buy or make that?

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>>33186705
My Mosin is all I have thats bigger than 5.56 atm, I was planning on hunting with it when the season starts in my state.

I've never gone hunting before and I have a feeling I'm in for an experience going out for the first time with a mosin lol

Anyone here have a Type 99? How do you like it and what should I look to pay for a decent one?

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>>33186729
You're probably not going to like it. They're long and heavy compared to traditional hunting rifles. But they'll function in a pinch if that's all you have.

>>33186760
>Decent one
Depends on your definition, but between $350 and $1100.

>>33186764
I'm no stranger to long hikes while having to carry heavy shit but the Mosin is all I have and I don't want to keep delaying going out and hunting anymore but I might invest in a modern hunting rifle down the road.

My dream is to earn enough money to start buying American Misurp, I'm a total Ameriboo.

>>33186791
you're gonna have to wait for that shit from Korea pal

>paying 400 for a matching k31

is it worth? the guns are so damn beautiful

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>>33186971
K31s are almost always matching, that doesn't really affect their value.

That said they usually start at $500 these days. If you like them, that's definitely a good price.

>>33186760
Not really a good indication of actual price, but last year I got one for $35 from a guy at a flea market who didn't know what it was. After a new safety and firing pin it worked fine. I love the thing, not nearly as hard to get ammo as a type 38.

Where can you even find decent milsurp anymore? I have a local store that's probably 150-300% overpriced on everything in the store, they have stock but most of it is of terrible grade.

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Not too pretty, wish I could feed her more, but dammit what a great gun.

>>33187120
Gunbroker is where I get like 80% of my shit. The rest is gun shows and forums.

>>33187219
What forums do you use?

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>>33186011
It is a very nice rifle. I should shoot it sometime.

What would be a decent price for a steyr M95/30 in good shape with bayonet?

>>33187228
Migunowners, gunboards, thehighroad, Calvin's, arfcom.
>>33187381
Yeah...but I'm torn between that and a Belgian 1889.

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>>33187392
IMO $200-250. Finding ammo is the greatest impediment to enjoying one.

>>33187415
Compromise; get a Turkish 1890.

>>33187680
>Turkish 1890
It's have to be in it's original caliber and I've never seen one.

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>>33187701
Just go pick one off Tommy's pile.

For maximum cool cred you need one of the Belgian-used M1890s.

I want to get another Mosin carbine should I look for the Finish M44 or the 91/59s?

I have a really nice Enfield, and a K98k on layaway.

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>>33187848
91/38, don't be a peasant.

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>>33185673
Just picked up a Czech made Persian Mauser carbine for $400. How'd I do?

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I want an SMLE mk 3 because I'm an Angloboo, but all the ones I've seen are 400-450$.
Is this a reasonable price or should I just keep looking?
My reasoning is milsurp isn't going to get any cheaper so I might as well get one while their still in my budget range.

>>33188340
Yeah that's a fair price.

>>33188090

Why are the 38s better? I only want the 59s because they're newer.

>>33188553
A 91/38 is a Czech built carbine from old M91 rifles.

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This thread needs more French

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>>33188598
Hon hon hon.

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What should I get next?

Been thinking about getting a FR-8

>>33188589

What if I want a Russian built one?

>>33188704
Well, for the most part they were Russian built at least originally. But then that would also disqualify the 91/59. Those aren't Russian.

>>33188648
Mas 36.

>>33188727

Is the M44 Russian?

>>33188777
Yes, unless it's Polish or Hungarian or Romanian or Albanian.

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>>33188313
>How'd I do?
Breddy gud.

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>>33188598
okay

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Might be picking up a matching German hi-power soon if the store still has it.

>>33188641

Hey, just wanted to thank you for renaming your files. It really helps a neophyte like myself.

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>>33189218
No problem chief.

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>>33188792
Or Chinese.

>>33189196
>p38

man I want one but I can never find one that isn't crazy high

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>>33189470
Yup forgot about those.

kinda like but kinda no
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ec3r_GqLdZI

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Whats the going price for a K31 that's not beat to shit?

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>>33189708
Have yet to see a K31 that qualified as "beat to shit".

>>33189741
I was just asking for a general price range for one.

>trying to figure out where zsatava mod 98 was made
>no idea what the fuck an S mark means on the bolt
>no idea what the boxed n means
>no idea what the R or K with an arrow of it means

any ideas what the fuck these all mean?

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>>33189741

The stock on mine has seen better days, to be fair the soldier it was issued to was in a Gebirgsjager unit so it probably saw some real shit up in the Alps.

Finish is mostly fine though.

>>33189838

Got mine for $400 from Classic. I haven't shot it yet, just picked it up 2 weeks ago

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>>33189838
Like $400-600 from retailers now. Possibly cheaper on the secondary market.

>>33189882
>where zsatava mod 98 was made
At Crvena Zastava, in Kragujevac.
>what the boxed n means
Probably a Cyrillic "P" Army acceptance mark for the part.

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This is rust, right? Should I care? If so what do?

Also I know the swiss used grease on everything, is ballistol good enough because I'd rather just be lazy and use that for everything.

>>33189899
How often do they get them in stock?

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>>33190118
>>33190118

That bit on the receiver, the mag, and the trigger guard seem to be the only places with any rust, atleast that's what I'm assuming this is.

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>>33190118
>If so what do?
Copper wool and Ballistol.

>>33190130
Not very. The days of there being a large stockpile of them are over. Might be months, maybe until November for Black Friday. And if they do they'll be sold out in a day, if not faster.

>>33190145
did you leave it in a cold place in its case overnight anon? Try wiping it with oil and see what happens.

Can I get a non numbers matching non trashed k98 without import of commie marks for $700-800 ?

>>33190360

It was like that when I picked it up at the FFL. Naturally I've already tried to clean it with ballistol and a cloth.

I'll buy some copper wool and try that out. Hopefully I can find it in the supermarket or something.

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>>33190321
Sadly the only large piles of them now are in Swiss dumpsters.

>>33190396
>Can I get a non numbers matching non trashed k98 without import of commie marks for $700-800 ?
Probably.

>>33186791
I've taken mine hunting and it's a blast I would just buy newer soft points and not use fmj but it would work I guess

what is the cheapest American milsurp rifle?

and why the fuck is American milsurp so damn expensive relative to foreign milsurp?

>>33185782
Yeah, I just BET you're a "Greek Mannlicher"!

>>33190434
That is very comfy looking, where is that?

my range looks like it got dropped in a creator

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>>33190464
Demand is greater, because Murrica.
>>33190516
You don't know the half of it.

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>>33190556
>where is that?
Driftless Wisconsin.

>>33190464
American military milsurps fetch a premium in the US for obvious reasons (i.e. Americans like American memorabilia). I know a gun shop locally (Northern California) that just bought half a dozen Garands off a CMP chapter that was closing, and they're asking $1000-1200 apiece.

Now, that may all change if the rumors about the stockpile in Korea end up being true. I'd hold out and see what happens with that. If it all pans out, we could see a bubble where Garands get cheap for a while.

>>33190601
kek nvm

stupid poor northern neighbors

>>33190464
I'm guessing Krags. All the ones I've seen have mostly been cheaper than 1903s or Garands.

>>33186705
>PU on an M39
You're a fucking Bubba. Why would you even do that? If you're going to scope a rifle with a period scope, at least use the right fucking scope and make an accurate reproduction of something that existed.

Give your milsurp away before you destroy any more of it, you can't be trusted.

>>33190822
The importer (classic) back in the 90's did it retard

>>33190822
Ok buddy.
>>33190914
Century is the importer of my rifle.
>>33190769
Only of they're sporterized. Unmolested Krags go for about $1000+.

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>>33190914

>>33186721
Found the original crate on a fb sale group, had a co-worker cut the top open and size the Plexiglas, I matched the paint best I could to repaint the lid, filled it with led lights and all things that reminds mosins of home

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>>33191281
>and all things that remind mosins of home

"and here we see the noble mosin nagant in its natural habitat. Notice how the hex establishes it's dominance over the pack. With its matching numbers and Tula lineage, the other males have no hope of competing, and must settle for the scraps as the alpha picks the choicest food for itself."

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>>33191828
I wish I were creative enough to make narratives like this. It's really make my book move along faster.

>>33191857
it's an old meme from a /tg/ game. We would post pictures of vehicles and equipment with nature documentary text.

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>>33191951
Oh I'm familiar, I'm just not that creative. You want a exposition of why State provided roads are actually very Libertarian, I can (and have) done that essentially on the fly. But story telling? Well I've been working on a book for 7 years now, and have about 3 chapters done.

>>33188727

What's a good price for a 91/59 today? I know some people will say $99 but that time has passed and I want a 91/59.

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>>33193294
I've seen people pay $300-500 for them. Not sure what the fascination is with them compared to an M38, but people sure bid them up.

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pulled our the M95 for some photos today.

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>>33193734
also, here are some mauser receivers

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>>33185673
> lament the fact that you will never own it all.

ugh you had to lead off with that? now im sad.


on the gun front it seems my next two purchases are lined up

1884 trapdoor springfield, NIB condition - I will be its 3rd owner, $1200

S&W model 17, .22lr revolver with walnut/velvet display case - heavily used - I dont even want it.....but ~10 years ago the guy sold me the S&W mod 29 .44 mag that was the companion gun in that same walnut box and ive been trying ever since to reunite the two. $450
>pic related

aside from that, uncle sam reamed me for almost $5k on taxes (and no i dont take deductions, so fuggg) so Im pretty much on a $300 spending limit until the fall --- i think im going to try to save for the year and buy myself something cool for Xmas.

on a side note, rock island had a gunsmith build baby luger in .32 acp sell for only $4k. I was so upset I gained about 5 pounds eating my pain away.

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>>33186386
lewd

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>>33188598
/k/

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My M44 has this discoloration on the bolt. I'm pretty new to surps. Is this rust? Regardless, what would you suggest to clean it off/prevent spread? I think I'm usually pretty good about keeping it well oiled with penetrating oil.

>>33193962
its pitting, was rust at some point but was cleaned off. just keep it cleaned and oiled and youll be fine.

>>33193306
iraqvet8888 did a video about them calling them KGB mosins. Might be why

>>33193904
I get my profit sharing next Friday, and am torn between A Belgian 1889, a Lee Navy 1895, and a 49/56.

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>>33194163
I know you're a bit of a frogophile, but you should go for the Belgian. They are more rare, shootable, and have been price plateau'd for awhile, which means they're almost due for a spike.

Help me decide /k/

http://www.armslist.com/posts/6427227/spokane-washington-rifles-for-sale-trade--mosin-nagant-91-59

Or

http://www.armslist.com/posts/6521621/olympia-washington-rifles-for-sale--vkt-m39-mosin

>>33194253
M39s are hotter than fuck right now. I'd get that.

>>33194253
91/59 is a good price, better deal

M39s are fuckin cool. if money aint tight get both or the M39, if youre on a budget, get the 91/59.

>>33186240
Buy it and re-bend it?

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>>33194163
>A Belgian 1889
Made by Hopkins & Allen.

>>33194253
>http://www.armslist.com/posts/6521621/olympia-washington-rifles-for-sale--vkt-m39-mosin
That.

>>33194441
Yup, that's the one. I'd rather it be a FN but...well I'll take what I can get.

>>33185673
anybody found anywhere to get surplus 54r?

>>33194016
Thanks. I thought raifu was going to fall apart overnight.

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>>33194601
forgot picture

alright boys, the only surp I own is a 91/30 i got for free. I have a budget of 600$, im looking into either getting an No4 Enfield or a K31, possibly a mauser if i can find a good one. Any reccomendations?

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>>33194676
you should be able to get a K31 AND a No4 for $600 if you hunt hard enough for deals.

>>33194601
its not available at reasonable prices anymore. new production non-corrosive is pretty much the same price so why bother.

I stockpiled a few crates a few years ago, now I just shoot new production ammo and keep the crates of spam cans for their longevitiy

>>33194748
SAD! I guess I'll just buy normie ammo

>>33189690
Recent? What did it run you?

do milsurp .22s exist, like a training rifle?

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>>33194601
I still have 4000 rounds I'm trying to get rid of.
>>33194676
Get the K31 if you can't get both (likely). Easier to reload for because 308 bullets are fucking everywhere. Also they look cooler I think.

>>33194884
do you now? any chance i could buy some off you in the next month or so?

So I kinda made a rash purchase of a Berthier M16 Lebel.

It's chambered in 8x50R Lebel, right? Where can I find clips for it?

And...what else do I need to know?

>>33194898
Yup, sure can.
>>33194930
Yes, liberty tree should have clips, and recoil is....stout.

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>got an m1903 and m31 for 1300
>mfw I can't stop buying all this milsurp

>>33194970
shoot me an email at [email protected], how much you willing to sell for?

>>33194970
>Yes, liberty tree should have clips, and recoil is....stout

Thanks. Is there a way to date them? Under the guard just above the receiver says MA C 1923. The seller said that's when it was rebarrelled, but who knows how much he knew.

>>33194993
$0.35/rnd, shipping is something I can be flexible with depending how much you wanna buy.

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>>33195031
screwby

Thinking about buying a Mosin. I see one for $229 at an online surplus dealer. It's not a great price but I feel like it's going to be the best I'll ever be able to get one for.

The one problem is I live in a city and I probably won't be able to shoot it for years.

I really want a mosin though. I grew up on the early Call of Duty games and it was always my favorite gun.

How soon should I bee looking to buy one? Probably going to get a .22 first, so I have something I can shoot all the time, even when I'm broke as a joke.

>>33195031
Damn that seems high, i buy it for 27cpr at my lgs. If i had more room I'd buy their last 10k rounds.

>>33195025
Yeah but it's not easy without pictures. MAC is Chatellerault, and many of these were rebarrelled in the interwar years. It might have been purposely made as a M16, or it might be a conversion of an older 1890 or 1892 or something.

>>33195066
It's cheaper than I've seen anywhere else. But if you're interested I'm always willing to haggle or trade. I'm just getting rid of it because I don't shoot surplus ammo anymore, not because I need money.

>>33186186
moistened nougat if poor

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>>33195031
>>33195037
same guy here, do you have any ammo still in the spam cans?

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>>33194635
That looks familiar.

>>33194801
$750.

>>33194845
Lots of them.

French MAS Mle.45 for instance, or Mauser DSM-34, Polish Wz.31 or Wz.48, US Springfield M2.

>>33195155
not my picture famalam, just liked the pretty wood

>>33195145
No, none of it is in the original cans.

>>33195172
ah, thats okay, still sounds good

>>33195188
Saves a lot of space and weight, not to mention it's easier to take a few paper wrapped packs to the range (when I did shoot this stuff) than a fucking spam can.

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>>33195072
I'll send what I can find.

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>>33195268

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>>33195290
These three spots are all I've found so far.

>>33190464
My 1903a3 was $550
My m1917 was $560
Start there, garands are $600 minimum

>>33195268
>>33195290
>>33195306
Purpose built after WW1. Almost certainly saw use in WW2 and probably a colonial theater after though.

>>33195490

Cool, thanks.

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How do you guys clean your gun after using corrosive ammo?

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>>33196005
>How do you guys clean your gun after using corrosive ammo?
Flush the barrel, chamber, and lug spaces out with water, then clean as normal.

>>33194321
wouldn't that break it? Also I don't need an unobtanium round right now.

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>>33196156
Depends on how you bend it. You could also just buy another bolt.
>Unobtainium round
Uh....

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>>33196156
>wouldn't that break it?
Why didn't it break before?
>Also I don't need an unobtanium round right now.
It's not doe.

>>33196048
How do you keep the water from causing rust?
Just a bit wary of pouring water down the barrel of my gun.

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>>33196234
>How do you keep the water from causing rust?
You run a couple patches down the bore to soak up what gravity did not work its magic on. This is why boiling water works best because it is essentially self-cleaning by evaporation.

>>33194845
I had a wz 48, it's a 22lr mosin. It was fun as hell to shoot.

>>33196176
>>33196187
>unobtanium round

Well fuck. I'm an idiot.
>>33196187
not from the first bend, but repeatedly bending something back and forth will break it, everyone knows that. Plus this was a full retard bend on the serial number and everything. They bent it down 90 and backwards 45.

Final answer, I wanted to collect WWII guns mainly so I wasn't super interested in it.

If you guys want it, it's in a gun store in Mayfield KY, I'll look up the name of it when I get off work.

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>>33197050
>but repeatedly bending something back and forth will break it, everyone knows that.
You're only bending it for the second time; a little heat and thermal paste and it'll bend like Sherman's neckties.

>>33197163
will I be able to save the serial number? It looks like it was stretched like play dough.

I'd imagine that would be very difficult to get the bolt to look correct again

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Shit quality cause old picture and too lazy to dig out for new one.

1886 IGmod 71/84 mauser in 11.15x60R

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>>33195086
Im in the same boat with my 8mm, i think I still have ~650 rounds left. plus like 400 .303s and ~50 8x50R. I have a lot of nugget surp, but I have a nugget with a junk bore I shoot it through.

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>>33197272
neato. both of my 71/84s are 1888 Spandau

>>33197313

Off the top of my head i believe mine is a spandau as well

So.. i won that crusty Arisaka from the last thread.

If that bastard that linked it here is still around, i hate you so much right now

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2 questions:

Has there ever been a Mauser chambered in 7.62x54mmR? I was checking out a few at my LGS and it was listed in that caliber. I believe it was a South American contract (Argentina/Venezuela/Chile).

LGS also had a No. 4 MK I for $400. Is that about normal for Enfields these days? Top handguard was wobbly as fuck though.

How can you tell if a Mauser has been refinished? I'm going to look at a K98k for $600 and I'll pick it up IF it's not been reblued or the stock hasn't been redone.

>>33197560
Suire it wasn't in 7.65x53?

>>33197738
You know, you could be right. However, I did find a 44 Mosin in the Enfield section with a tag reading "ENFIELD .303 BRIT."

They're usually good with marking the milsurp, but today I did see a lot of tags with the calibers scratched out and replaced with "UNKNOWN."

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>>33197560
you should buy all of them

also, no factory mausers in 54r. south americans were in 765x53

>>33197764
A .303 Mosin would be an oddity but not unheard of. Likely mislabbled but a hom edone rechambering is possible.
Britain also supplied Russia with SMLEs and ammo at one point. The Russians converted a number of these and other rifles to use either cartridge. The body of the 303 would blow out and the neck/shoulder of the x54r would blow out when fired in the hybrid chamber.

>>33197525

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Classic sent me a '41 VKT with a broken firing pin. Think they'll send a replacement?

The last round in my Mosin wont chamber, any ideas about what could be causing it?

>>33197981

Aaaaand suddenly I fear for my own order.

I know a guy on /r/gundeals bought one of those Manurhins with a missing firing pin and they told him to pound sand because "used gun." Can't hurt to ask though.

>>33198016
I got one of the craked stock rifles but they still called them shooters. Kinda disappointed.

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>>33197995
Weak spring on your follower would be my guess.

>>33198033
Other than the fucked up pin, how's the rifle overall? I placed an order for a regular grade Sako.

new to milsurp some questions:

how do you guys make sure your rifle bores aren't rusting? I live in the PNW where rain is ridiculously common. do I just shine a light and look for dark spots?

what is best for rust removal of a rifle bore? ballistol and some copper wool shoved down the barrel? then some patches of hopes oil for cleanup?

>>33198085
A copper cleaning brush and whatever your favorite penetrating oil is. Ballistol works fine though.

>>33198052
It was filthy but the bore is good, crack is in the heel but looks repairable

>>33198085
If you leave your rifle in an air conditioned house and not by the bathroom, basement, garage or attic, the rifle will be fine. The air conditioning does a really good job at keeping the humidity and temperature right (50% and 70).

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I havent gone shooting in months. Need to re-up my membership.

>>33198386

I live in the an apartment ground level. I have fans circulating air and constant lighting on the rifles.

I was contemplating getting some iron packets to help prevent rust but the rifles looked fine.

I just have no idea how to check for rust inside the barrel of the rifle. even with lighting the barrels look shiny and I see the rifling.

I only shoot PPU since it's non-corrosive but even then I still worry about something fucking up from me being naive.

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>>33198437
>even with lighting the barrels look shiny and I see the rifling.
Then it's not rusting.

Do you think CMP will ever get any of the soon to be decomissioned M9's?

>>33198839
They haven't even gotten the M1911s and M1911A1s that have been sitting around in Army inventory for the past 40 years. What makes you think they'll be getting any front line serviceable weapons sooner? The SIG isn't going to replace the Beretta overnight.

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>>33197188
There's a guy on Gunboards who specializes in this sort of restoration work. Can't remember his name tho.

>>33197560
Argentina used 7.65x53mm (or 7.65x54mm to the Argentines). Venezuela and Chile used 7x57mm.
>that wall rack
Is this the shop?

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>>33197785
They have a pristine, near unfired/mint 7mm Chilean/Venezuelan Mauser up for sale. Unfortunately, it's a consignment item and the owner wants $1,100 for it.

>>33199039
Yeah, it is. They keep their milsurp and consignment items in a backroom away from the main retail area where you'd find the modern stuff.

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>>33198839
They're probably gonna be destroyed, not surplused.

>>33199334
That's the spirit

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>>33187680
>Finding ammo is the greatest impediment to enjoying one.


*Austistic laughing*


Its late so i can't get a well light picture of the m95

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>>33188648

What is that last rifle on the bottom and why do I want it so much?

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>>33199334
>destroying delicious cheap milsurp

It's like we are becoming France

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>>33185673
I was browsing around this store near me that sells mostly broken surplus shit(not military, just iffy quality toys, food, clothes, appliances, etc.) And was surprised to find that they had some milsurp hidden among the clothes racks. Got this Slovak BDU jacket for just $9 and a folding shovel among some Czech mag pouches for $12. Anyone know what kind of shovel this is? For all I know it could be some pot metal crap made by an American company but everything around it seemed to be genuine milsurp.

>>33200122
You''re better off asking the camo milsurp bread. Shovel looks too new though, probably a chink repro

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>>33200082
It's a French Mle. 1949/56.

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>>33200082
A Mas 49/56, and you want it because it's French and sexy (redundant, I know)

>>33200146
>>33200162

>7.5x54 French is 75c/round

God dammit

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>>33199101
>Yeah, it is.
Fugg.

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>>33200906
I still have a little stash of ammo for when I really want to shoot it for a special occasion. Which means I never shoot it lol.

If you do get one and want to reload, reload with hard primers so you don't have slam fires.

>>33200906
Reload.

Is $850 a fair price for an all matching near perfect BYF 44 P38?