Why do you still use leather /k/?

>>33176302
>Glock

Leather plebs BTFO
How can DiamondD even compete?

>>33176302
Did he take the time, with an open wound, to put a stick in the hole to take that picture?

>>33176320
/thread
I carry a gun with a safety so it doesn't matter.

>>33176347
it's okay, it was just 9mm

>Glock "perfection"
>"Safe Action"

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>>33176302
>why do you use shit quality $30 holsters /k/

FTFY

>>33176302
>Why do you still use glocks /k/?

FTFY

>>33176302
Carrying without a safety and one loaded in the chamber

Holy fuck what a retard.

>>33176465

What? What's the point of carrying without the gun hot?

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>>33176302
I just REALLY like leather.

>>33176302
I prefer nylon, myself.

>>33176514
I prefer latex

>>33176465
>without a safety
>glock
oh you silly

>>33176465
>carries a glock without a round chambered
For what conceivable purpose?

>>33176498
I don't understand how that holster works.

>carries glawk
>shoots himself
>REEEEE FUCK THIS HOLSTER

>>33176544
Come into my basement and I'll show you

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>>33176349
>>33176465
These guys are the type of faggots who leave loaded mags in different rooms too, to keep themselves from NDing

>>33176302

Because my ccw has a manual safety, a grip safety, and a firing pin safety.
And because it's more comfortable and has better retention than plastic.

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>>33176588
Could be worse, they could be weebs posting anime on a Malaysian fly fishing emporium

>>33176302
>Why do you still use leather /k/?

Because I'm not a poorfag who buys a leather holster without reinforcements to prevent that.

Based on that guy's profile pic this is is not the first or last major mistake he'll make in his life.

>>33176302

The epitome of why I don't get a Glock.

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>>33176579
Not him, but I'll come.

Only if you have the restraints match the hood.

>>33176302
Because I don't buy shitty leather holsters.

>>33176483
It's takes less than a second to rack, or flip a safety.

I'd def. Wage that second over the real possibility of ND'ing

>>33176620
Fuck, can you point me to the Malaysian cast netting emporium?

>>33176302

Because nothing else really goes well with BP revolvers.

>>33176302
Well, if he was holstering at that angle, it wasn't the holster that caused it.

>>33176465
>breading when your this retarded

Holy fuck, kys

>>33176588
No, they just use their safety to prevent ND's. When are people going to recognize a striker fired pistol with no safety is no safer than a cocked single action with the safety off?

>>33178536
I've been saying this for years. I fail to see how a glock is safer than a series 80 1911 without a safety.

>>33178082
>breading

ya, no, fkys mate

>>33176302
Dude just put an AR500 steel plate (cut down, of course) on the bottom of the holster

That way if your trigger snags you won't get gunlegged

>>33176302
>can't holster his gun properly

>it's clearly the holsters fault

>>33176302
Ayo hol up

But isn't like, the WHOLE point of the trigger safety to avoid shit like this?

I remember emailing glock about it, and they said those words

>>33176302
That caption...leather doesn't even protect the finish.

>>33176302
>stick through the hole

for what purpose?

>no safety

nice pos

>>33178674
He assumes because he's dumb enough to glockleg, everyone else is too stupid to figure out basic trajectories.

>>33178674
it's to add clarity of how the pistol was positioned

>>33178700
no need to get pretentious over something silly like that. it's a very helpful tool for the picture

>>33176588
Cocked and locked anime boy.

>>33178536
It's slightly safer than anything without a firing pin block because the Glock can't have something break and throw the hammer down. Also trigger pressure from the factory but you know those mall ninjas always make it super light.

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>>33176302

If only there were some device you could put on the gun to keep it from firing when you don't want it to...

>>33178082
Hahahahaha
Whoa, you're a dumby

Enjoy going to jail for a ND in public.
Anyone carrying without a completely hot gun is a retard.

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>>33176320
This. As much as /k/ hates to hear it. There's nothing wrong with using a leather holster
>inb4 look at da pictsher stupid it pulled the trigger
That's what safeties are for, but oh wait, glocks don't have a safety
Sorry /k/ but a trigger """"safety"""" is not a safety

thats why thumb safeties exist.

>>33178763
This. There is no reason for pistols to not have a safety. If you don't want to use it then don't, but it should always be available. I have the same draw and fire times disengaging the safety and firing than I do just drawing and firing. Disengage while drawing. Not a hard concept.

>>33178738
>the Glock can't have something break and throw the hammer down

>Sear on 1911 trigger somehow snaps, dropping the hammer
>Gun goes off

>Sear on a Glock trigger somehow snaps, releasing the striker
>Gun goes off

>>33178536
>>33178592
>>33178689
>>33178763
External safeties are bad

Especially slide safeties; only the Makarov is exempt because its safety is reversed, thus avoiding the issue

>>33176302
All this does is show why you should get a leather holster with a reinforced mouth.

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>>33178763

>buying an obsolete gun so that you can use an obsolete holster

>>33178824

External safeties are not bad.

Notice how no one is complaining about Beretta leg.

>>33178823
Sears are made of diamonds they don't break dumbass

>>33178869
His assertion is fucking retarded.

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>>33176302
>Why do you still use leather /k/
because my fns 9c has a safety

>>33178812
>Disengage while drawing. Not a hard concept.

You'd be surprised.

>>33178720
Stating the obvious is being pretentious? Did you never play connect the dots as a kid?

>>33178835

>Points the same as any other gun.
>Makes metal fly like any other gun.
>Accurate as any other gun.
>Kills them dead as any other gun.

Obsolete how, exactly? Because it won't bend in a hot car?

>>33178858
This. I skateboard with a cocked and locked jetfire in my pocket in a *leather* holster, and despite landing directly on it from the top of a set of stairs, it has never even disengaged the safety.

>>33178858
Thats because the Berettafags got outdrawn and gunned down. Better leg than dead.

>>33178943
Probably means capacity, and maybe caliber.

>>33179028
So a sp01 is obsolete?

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>>33178943

>less durable
>less reliable
>lower capacity
>heavier

>GUD ENUF FER MUH GREAT GRANDAD GUD ENUF FER ME

>>33177646
You WILL forget the safety when drawing to defend yourself.
You're a retard

>>33179078

>16rds of 10mm isn't enough
>Metal is less durable than plastic.
>Not doing maintenance on your firearms
>Less reliable isn't even a sensible argument when talking about issues once every 1,000 rounds

>>33179100

Not if you don't train like a retard.

>Safety comes off as you draw up.

My thumb makes the same motion when drawing my glock.

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>>33176588
I'm taking the bait.
>Training to disengage safety on draw is too much for the average strikerbabby.

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>>33179103

today I learned about double stack 10mm 1911s.

The 1911-is-obsolete meme is obsolete.

>tfw i only use unpadded leather rifle slings because tactical/fudd shit isn't comfy or consistant for bracing.

>>33178633
Strange how the company would tell you everything was fine with their gun. This is called "Glock leg." Pretty widely acknowledged phenomenon when they first became popular.

I can't believe what I'm reading in this thread. The reason you carry a firearm is to defend your life at a moment's notice. ALWAYS HAVE ONE IN THE CHAMBER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVPiic-ELoM

>>33176347
Probably the police or paramedics that responded.

Could you just put a wodden dowel or a piece of plastic behind the trigger that prevents accidental firing, so when you draw your trigger finger can just knock it out? Can I patent this and sell a tiny piece of plastic for $50 as a tactical trigger stop?

>>33179444
>implying not OCing an AK or AR
Do you live in a warzone anon?

>>33178776
A saftey on a carry gun? Hope I dont loose my fine motor skills in an emergency situation

>>33179444

This guy is a faggot with his
>YOU CAN'T DRAW ON A DRAWN GUN
meme

>>33179490
That anons from Detroit bro...chill his need is real

>>33179515

>be carrying GLOCK
>>lol dont need fine motor skills because no safety!
>nigger whips out his dick
>draw my gun
>shoot myself because lol no fine motor skillllzzzz
>get blacked

>>33179484
Its called a safety and it already comes inside guns that aren't dangerously overhyped.

>>33176349

glocks only go off if you pull the trigger

>>33179444
>Active Self Protection
>Always protect your ASP
my nigger

>>33179515
You dont have to rely on fine motor skills if you practice until it becomes reflex.

>>33179515

If you're so undertrained that you can't disengage the safety as you draw, then you're probably not going to hit anything when stressed, either. Good job on being a public hazard.

Muscle memory is real. Use it.

>>33176320
FPBP

>>33179549
Apparently that is not safe enough for alot of people.

speak softly but carry a big stick
>only works if they can see the stick

>>33179549

Wrong.
Glocks go off if ANYTHING pulls the trigger.

>but muh trigger safety!
Nope.

>>33179549

>If you're perfect, the gun is perfect!

>>33176302
The moral of the story is don't buy a POS Bianchi leather holster. They are the worst. Buy something good like from Simply Rugged etc.

Leather isn't a good option for IWBing a pistol without a safety. Leather is pretty and meant to be seen outside of your waistband.

>>33179515
GROSS MOTOR SKILLS
https://youtu.be/53Jd3ltvb8k

>>33179336
I own one as well AMA

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>>33179626

Good old Glock Fotay event

>>33179103
but muh plastic $150 9mm

>>33178907

>it's called practice makes perfect

>>33179515
Have any of you people ever had to deal with adrenaline? You don't get the shakes until the situation is past.

>>33179735

The shakes, no.

But I can personally attest to some full-body flopping around and confusions.

I'm squarely in the safety camp, and endorse muscle memory training, but without it (or even with it sometimes), your whole world can turn to jelly.

>>33179757

Not the guy you replied to, but in my experience, the best solution to that stuff is rage.
Really saved my ass on several occasions.
I wouldn't really say it made my motor skills better, but it made it much easier to act.

>>33179735
Its my second favorite drug. I like to push myself harder when i feel it come on. Desensitize myself to it.

>>33176302
LISTEN UP FUCKSTICKS

I'm not sure if y'all are fuckin no guns or dont practice cc techniques or defensive tactics but heres some insight for you from both the law enforcement and executive protection side:

When holstering there is never a rush and it should be done with caution, not just caution to the holster but if your weapon is out then there is a reason for that. Therefore this idiot probably had his gun out for no good reason while chambered and then decided to just drop it in a shit leather holster while sitting in his car. Hell my shittiest holster is a galco stow n go which has no rigidity around the trigger guard but I can still holster that regardless my body position because there is a specific technique to prevent NDs. Insert muzzle up until trigger guard, rotate grip towards body, fully holster gun. Even being a slightly bigger guy there are no hangups around the trigger, this was simply negligence on this guys part.

Side note this appears to be a left hand holster which doesnt make sense because it shows a gsw to the right thigh

>>33179130
my strikerbaby guns weigh less than my hammerfudd guns so I carry more mags with me

>>33176302
>B-B-B-B-B-B-BUT-BUT-BUT IT ONLY SHOOTS WHEN I ACTUALLY PULL THE TRIGGER??????

Glawks fangays should be exterminated.

>>33180848
He did pull the trigger, with his shitty galco holster

>Not wanting the skin of a once living creature gently rubbing against you when you appendix

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>>33176302
>buy Glock perfection
>get it in 9mm cuz it is just as good as .40, 10mm, and .45
>put Glock in leather because kydex is for mall ninjas
>jump in car....BANG
>jump out of car, look at exhaust system
>shrugs shoulders, jump back in car, notice mystery hole in seat
>hop back out of car, retrieve dowel rod to solve mystery
>shove dowel rod into hole, look along rod, no hole in roof
>sit back down in seat, notice tear in pants
>notice part of flesh missing
>debate possibility of leprosy
>smell powder residue
>immediately remember Glock
>pull Glock and holster out, notice trigger got pressed
>ponder why trigger safety didn't work
>start posting on gun forums about how perfect Glock is and blame everything on holster
>take numerous selfies
>engage in numerous caliber war discussions on 9mm being best
>never go to hospital for 9mm flesh wound

>>33176684
Yeah THIS is why you're a nogunz and why you "won't buy a Glock" not because you're poor or an attention seeking contrarian

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>>33178765
>implying I buy unkle mike holsters
>implying the kind of retard who NDs wouldn't ND a gun with a saftey
>implying you'd even be charged if you had a ND because you bought a unkle mike holster
>implying you shouldn't kill yourself

>>33177646
Lmao looking forward to seeing you get shot trying to rack your slide on security cam footage afterwards

>>33178858
Maybe because there are way more glocks in civilian hands than berettas?

Especially ones that would be typically called "concealable"

>>33178943
Because standard 45 ACP is weaker than most self defense 9mm
And 45 +p still doesn't make up for the 3 round capacity.

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>>33176302

Because the Mitch Rosen I have completely covers the trigger guard, and unless someone stabs me through the leather, the trigger isn't getting pressed.


Even a $10 pancake holster that covers the trigger guard is safer than anything that leaves the trigger exposed in any way.

Once you realize that your gun isn't going bang without a trigger press, safety becomes much simpler. Don't do anything that would cause the trigger to be pressed... like holster your weapon in a defective or poorly made holster of any kind.

>>33176302
>red_desert_custom_kydex
Wow, it's almost as if they're not trying to sell me their fucking holsters.

>>33178633
Seriously though, how is a glock safer than a series 80 1912 without a safety?

A grip safety would have prevented this.
Fucking grip safety hating faggots

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>glock

Either you have a gun with DA/SA, or you have a gun with a safety, or you have a gun with that 1911 grip safety.

Or you can be a glock special snowflake.

>>33178536

Let's be fair a single action cocked no safety is almost literal hair trigger. A glock is safer than that but it's still unsafe compared to any other system including ones we've had for literally a hundred fucking years. At this point it's just glock and apologists being obtuse and refusing to concede being wrong in any fashion.
>>33179549

Leather apparently has prehensile fingers.

>>33178763
>beautiful.jpg

Dude I like 1911s too, but that thing is a fucking turd.

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>>33178082

>>33176320
>>33176349
>>33176455
>>33176389
>>33176465
>>33176565
>>33176619
>>33181303
>>33178763
>>33179586

https://youtu.be/p3kJ6SU3ycs
>Hehe muh trusty nineteen elebbun ain't neva gone go off less I wants it to. Muh safety keep me from shooting musel-AAAHHHHH MUH LEG AAAAAHHHH SHEEEIT I'M BLEEDING OUT CALL DA AMBERLANCE CALL 911 HELP

Remember kids, 1911 leg can happen to YOU.

>>33181470
The guy's retarded. Here's a video where he explains what happened.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYvAxLX6OzE

tl;dw - there is no safety mechanism that can protect an idiot from his own stupidity

>>33181298

This

>glock


Get a better gun.

>>33181513
>Grip safety
>Better gun

Does not compute.

>>33178763
it's called a brain

>>33181184
that bait.

this whole bait thread.

> Doesnt know about 45acp higher 600ft/lb+ engery verse 9mm 400-500 average
> doesnt use underwood ammo.


kill yourself 9mmfag.

>45acp defensive ammo
>weaker than 9mm defensive ammo

pick one

*leave thread.

>>33176302
Because my leather holsters aren't shit, and I carry a 1911 in condition 1.

My LCP 2 rides in a foam pocket holster.

My Sig p226 is getting an alien gear holster soon though.

>>33176302
Jeans BTFO

>>33176320
Lucky for him it didnt explode on his thigh,he could have been cripple by now.

>>33179467
>This guys bleeding and screaming what do we do?
>PUT A STICK IN THE BULLET HOLE OF THE CAR SEAT, QUICK

>>33176389
Exactly this.

Yeah, muh glockzillion safeties may be installed but they are all worth shit when everything you need to fire is move the fucking trigger.

A 1911 style manual safety should be mandatory for any SA carry gun - period

And I dont give a fuck how you call your special snowflake trigger system, "Safe action" and every not resettable trigger is SA and needs a damn manual safety to be a safe gun to be carried with one in the pipe.

>>33176529
>muh glockzillion safeties

>>33182348
>implying
He looks pretty okay to me. It's just a graze from when the round actually went off.
Painful, yeah; but not life threatening unless it becomes infected.

>>33182282
... Those are khakis.

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>>33182371
>mandatory
Tell me more about curbing gun violence through common sense, bernie.

>>33182408
With "mandatory" I meant that every man who wants to buy a gun should make it mandatory for himself you autistic sperglord - I'm not talking about the gubmint taking action.

>>33181513
remove the jet funnel and it becomes decent.

>>33180848
So much this

Whats so great about restricting yourself to rigid (read: less comfortable) holsters just because you have to buy a pistol without any manual safety?

And to all you Glockfags: Do you REALLY want to tell me that flipping a lever a fraction of an inch downwards when you draw makes ANY self defense situation less survivable?

>>33178607
Or well... you could just... I'm afraid to say it...

GET A GUN WITH A SAFETY

>>33182425
how do you enforce that. Are you going to go around to every manufacturer and tell them how they can design and produce their firearm? If a part of a handgun makes you feel unsafe please consider a different one.

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>>33176671
>Buys a cheap-ass Glawk brand™ Glawk®
>Spends more than 50% of Glawk®'s retail price on a non-poorfag Kydex™ reinforced holster

And you are talking about major mistakes in life...

>>33182486
>>33178607
the joke was that it would cause spaulding and result in a much more serious wound.

>>33182492
Oh boy...

Are you that bad at reading comprehension?

MANDATORY

as in

>Its mandatory for me to only buy guns with manual safeties for daily carry


No law
Nothing to enforce

Just using your own fucking brain before you strap a pistol to your hip in condition ZERO

>>33176302
Why do you not israeli carry? are you in some kind of daily mortal danger that prevents you from taking the 0.2 seconds it takes to rack the slide?

>>33176302
>Why do you still use leather /k/?

Because I dont own a pistol that fires when you look at the trigger

>>33182543
This is my safety.
*wiggles with his trigger finger*

>>33182454

>Safety gets flipped off while holstered
>now .10" 1lb trigger pull away from stoppan powah leg

seriously though, I carry my Glock more than my 6906 or P01 because it is lighter and conceals better

>>33182513
lol that was a different guy

I get what you mean, I'm trying to point out that forcing your beliefs on others when their way works for them is lefty trait, bern.

>>33182566
I dont wanna force anything on others - perhaps used the wrong word "mandatory" (no native american)

>>33182551
Yeah thats TWO (2) incidents that have to happen instead of ONE (1) with a Glock

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>put pistol in leather holster
>it catches the trigger
>nothing happens because its a 92fs

>>33182579
>thing depresses glock clit
>now 1" 10lb trigger pull from glock leg

>>33178082
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ai2c5vZGOs

>>33179006
are you literally this retarded?
>approx. 20% chance of legging yourself
>1% chance of ever needing to use your CC
>1% x 50% chance of the situation requiring some quick draw cowboy action
>1%x50%x50% chance of added .5 seconds to flip safety causing you to lose gunfight
you do the math, retard

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>>33176302
Nope.

>>33181501
>>33181470
>mah training kicked in
>I called my mom

is he /ourguy/?

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>>33176429

>>33181590
> 45acp higher 600ft/lb+ engery

That is .45 super

>>33182513
>A 1911 style manual safety should be mandatory for any SA carry gun - period
It's pretty clear what you said anon. I think english is just not your first language.

Ending the post with
>And I dont give a fuck how you call your special snowflake trigger system, "Safe action" and every not resettable trigger is SA and needs a damn manual safety to be a safe gun to be carried with one in the pipe.

This whole post implies this is the only way anyone should select a firearm, not yourself. You may want to take a few online classes at your local community college if this issue persists.

>>33181501
>my training took over and I called my parents

Kudos to him for publishing the video, though.
A lot of people would have been too ashamed to post it. I'm sure a lot of us do retard mistakes from time to time.

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>>33179006

>>33181470
>Well known retard
>Literally too dumb to be mil or cop
This is not a good example.

>>33182673
>I think english is just not your first language.

Yeah, thats why I wrote it here, Sherlock >>33182579

>You may want to take a few online classes at your local community college if this issue persists.

You may want to come down here to Mississippi and stick your tongue into my half-german asshole?

And yeah, anyone with half a brain should be clever enough to chose a manual safety if his gun is SA.

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>>33176302
ITT: loads of shitheads afraid of their guns and their gun handling skills.

OP: that holster seems to be set up for a lefty and the pic shows a righ handed carry configuration. Does not compute, probably all fake news to slander Glock - I've see those same leather holster pics years ago in other places too.

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>>33176349

>>33182765
Not sure where that level of detail to personal information came from but you're mad as fuck anon I'm sorry.

Please try to keep in mind that it's more than two people posting on /k/, and no one even responded to that post so why would that even be related?

Put on a trip if you want people to be able to follow your convoluted nonsensical non-sequential posts.

>>33182543
Why not just flip a safety. And theres a video in this thread with several examples of when kike carry is not an option.

>>33182551
See>>33178988

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>>33176302
>carrying chamber loaded

>>33182801
>Why not just flip a safety.
bc if you think the 1911 or M9 safety configuration is safer to carry cocked and locked than a Glock with 1 in the chamber you are retarded. I'm an EMT with the Austrian police and we've recovered the goo theat was left after one motorcycle cow was run over by 2 14 wheeleer trucks. Everything was trash but the Glock in it's holster was in pristine condition. The gun will not fre unless you pull the trigger. If you can't make sure you aren't going to pull the trigger, a gun is not for you.

>>33182827
>Austrian paramedic.
So you have absolutely no firearm experience besides your completely irrelevant and purely anecdotal story.

I'll keep carrying my pistols cocked and locked as I have been while laughing at these threads.

>>33182860
>So you have absolutely no firearm experience

Nope, I actually even carry on on the job.

>>33179522
>gun pointed at you already
>motion even to draw yours
>shot instantly
Anon how are you not already dead if you believe you have lightning reflexes like this.

>>33182819
>>33182543
The whole point of having the ability to defend yourself is being able to use it in a split second decision and situation. The idea of properly cocking your handgun under pressure with possibly another firearm present or pointed at you is not what you want when the seconds are adding up.

Don't be fucking stupid. Carry ready with your safety on.

>>33182827
As difficult as this was to read, have you ever seen any other pistols under the same conditions? Have you ever carried anything besides a glock? No and no? That's what I thought. Your post is entirely irreverent. You cant make an informed decision with only one example.

>>33182902
>As difficult as this was to read
Truth hurts doesn't it. And yes, I have other guns, one of them being an HK USP, the other a PPQ the fourth a french Manurhin MR73 revolver. And I'd pic a Glock over them any time. Not because of "HURR DURR MUH COUNTRY!" but because it's (IMO) objectively better. No, I've not seen guns in bike crashes other than this one case.

>>33178776

Of course it isn't. It's not a manual safety and with you retards even one of those isn't enough.

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>>33181303

>unsafe compared to

Hence why almost every striker-fire has copied them; why most LEOs carry them. Fucking Jesus...And I'm not even a fan of the brick but you morons love to hate on the gun.

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>>33182819

>carry with out one in the chamber
>why even carry at all pussy?

>>33181574
Everyone says the XD is a gluck, so Hell it's a gluck with a safety

>>33183096
lol. the XD is a slavshit gun made by slavs who only got into guns in 2005 or so. That thing fires if you bend the frame btw.

>>33182937
So again your personal preference and a single outlier story is not a deciding factor. irrelevant.
>truth hurts doesnt it
English is not your first language, and I'm not going to go into detail how out of place that statement was.

>>33179484
They already sell these

>>33182989
I can show you multiple liveleak videos where the guy who kills the assilaint has the time to rack a round and shoot em

Your just thinking like a close minded liberal

>>33182827
Eurofaggots lecturing people about gun ownership in the land of the free


Whoa. Now I've seen it all.

>not carrying glorious HK LEM and thumbing the hammer when holstering/unholstering

>>33176302
because my "safety" isn't on my trigger.

>>33183249
>Thinking because some people were able to rack the slide before shooting means EVERYONE will be able too.

So if you are using your left hand to push the BG off of you, how can you be sure you be able to successfully chamber the round one handed.

>>33183249
I can show you just as many where the guy doesnt have time. Why risk it

>>33179078
Your great grandad wasn't a giant pussy either.

>>33183262
>Eurofaggots lecturing people about gun ownership in the land of the free

Eurofgts with guns are equivalent to the top 10% of US gun owners dude. In the EU, you don't just get a gun...

>>33183116
Yes, for me Glock is a "personal preference" but for you the 1911/M9 is the objectively, scientifically, statisitcally proven right choice, right?

>>33183249
>I can show you multiple liveleak videos where the guy doesn't need to kill the assilaint and has the time and foresight to deescalate and talk em down
>Your just thinking like a close school shooting murderer

t. you

the close minded liberal is really you.

>>33178633
The main purpose is that it is a drop safety, to prevent the trigger from moving rearwards for when the gun suddenly accelerates in the opposite direction the trigger is pulled.

>>33183860
don't even try, the HS dropiuts here don't understadn what oscillation and eigenfrequency is.

>>33183689
Halts Maul, Arschgesicht

>>33182974
LEOs typically have retention holsters made out of a stiff material like Kydex and hold the gun in with more that just friction, like a button you need to depress first. In this example it is safe as the holster is practically your safety. But with what most people CC with, it provides none of those safety benefits, and is no safer than carrying a single action with the safety off.

>>33183907
>Halts Maul, Arschgesicht

Top Argument hast du da, Malte!

>>33183689
>Eurofgts with guns are equivalent to the top 10% of US gun owners dude. In the EU, you don't just get a gun...

This is a fair statement

I have lots of respect for the euros who take the time, pay the money, get the training, jump through the hoops and what not, you guys are dedicated.

>>33183894
What I said was completely in the realm of common sense. Anybody who has observed how stuff in the world around them moves for more than a day could understand what I said.

>>33183910
the thumb releases etc. for LEOs are because they open carry and it's somewhat easier for people to snatch their gun that it is for a regular conceal carry Joe carrying appendix. There is nothing wrong with a hard plastic holster that only works via friction, if it's a quality holster, for your average douche.

Why the fuck would you have one in the chamber? The fraction of a second that it would take to load on into the chamber then prepare it to fire isn't going to save your life.

This isn't a clint eastwood film, it is just unsafe to have one in the chamber for everyday life.

>>33182543
If you're using a gun with an external safety, racking the slide is a needless waste of time.

Make the gun hot and carry it with the safety on.

>>33183931
then why dont ppl understand that the trigger on the trigger is part of a "drop-, jerk-, throw-" safety system in 2017AD?

>>33183953

It makes sense for people who aren't retarded and don't wear holsters that pull the trigger of the gun inside them.

>>33183953
t. Elmar Fudd

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A product for those of you scared of your gun and gun skillz:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Id0yDyFdv8

What a time to be alive!

>>33179645
What brand? Are the magazines reliable?

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>>33179348
>tfw I was so poor I literally tore off a strap from an old tacticool backpack and superglued it to itself through the sling mounts
>it is literally just an coyote tan strap on my rifle
>have gotten numerous compliments on how great it looks
>"what sling is that son?"
>"I don't know, my grandad got it for me for my birthday... ha ha..."
>the most comfy sling I have
Even though I can afford a tacticool 3 point sling this thing hasn't failed me yet for some odd reason, and I've swung it around pretty good out here innadesert.
>inb4 shitty scope
I've switched back to irons since I realized I couldn't hit shit with it and just wanted Muh optics

>>33184106
if you want real compfy slings just get a few feet of seat belt in any color you like from ebay. it's supple, doesn't cut your carotid like other slings in case you throw your rifle to the side and is affordable.

>>33183689
>Yes, for me Glock is a "personal preference" but for you the 1911/M9 is the objectively, scientifically, statisitcally proven right choice, right?
I dont think I ever implied that. Sorry you got so riled up over peoples diverse opinions on their favorite handgun.

>>33179515
>Hope I dont loose my fine motor skills in an emergency situation

Training is a thing. Also knowing if you are naturally calm in emergencies. Some people are, and it doesn't mean they are a badass oper8or.

I'm chill during emergencies by nature but that's because I despise emotional display. I had to learn to be genuinely affectionate but perform calmly in situations that stress most people like fires, vehicle accidents and (I'm old) incoming Scuds.

>>33179735
I don't get them at all, just a muted excitement.

>>33183953
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9I-Qkv4bH8

>>33184146
>I dont think I ever implied that. Sorry you got so riled up over peoples diverse opinions on their favorite handgun.

glocks get taped to a sack of gravel and trown off buildings in testing and they don't go bang. Sorry, but when you discarge a Glock, it's user error, not the gun's fault. The manual of arms for the Glock is literally perfection.

>>33176302
Because my gun has a safety that works.

>>33176465
>Heisei 29
>Not concealed clenching a fully loaded K6S in between your ass cheeks
some folks never learn

>>33176347
He took time with a wounded hand, cause it likes to heal.

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>>33183953
>The fraction of a second that it would take to load on into the chamber then prepare it to fire isn't going to save your life

>>33176320
D-d-does this mean xd is finally accepted as a legitimate reason to have a back strap safety?

>>33176320
>2017
>Not using Kydex

>>33176320
>>33176349
>>33176465
this
if you're going to carry with a round in the chamber of a gun without a safety then don't be surprised if it NDs into you

>>33187032
>if you're going to carry with a round in the chamber of a gun without a safety then don't be surprised if it NDs into you

weird then how a majority of LEOs world wide do exactly that: carry a safetyless striker fired gun loaded.

>>33187290
It's almost like they open carry with a stiff kydex holster with an added degree of retention beyond friction, such that the holster acts as a safety itself.
>>33183951
But what I'm saying is why is it acceptable to carry a striker fired pistol with a hard plastic holster with only friction, but not a loaded and cocked single action with the safety off?

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Good thread

>>33176302
But muh safe action trigger

>>33184032
Wow... great for carrying outside the waistband... like all CCWs right.... right guys?

I'm honestly dumbfounded at this thread. How the fuck is anybody defending the fact that people carry a striker-fired pistol with no safety with one in the chamber? It's literally on the same level as carrying a single action that's fully cocked. If you do that, you 100% deserve when it inevitably goes off in your holster.

I never fell into the "Glockfags are retarded mindless fanboys" until now but... Holy shit.

>>33184126
now you just gave me the really ricey idea of using Takata seat straps as a sling.

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>trigger safeties

It takes a special kind of retard to come up with this shit, not to mention buying it.

>>33186549
I appreciated this reference.

>>33180044
>there is a better drug than adrenaline
kys

>>33190986
>inevitably goes off in your holster

Maybe if you holster your gun correctly you won't have that problem.

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Maybe because my holster was $120 and not a $25 baby boomer special.

That and I simply put my thumb against the hammer when I reholster.

>>33191031
>thinks trigger safteys are for anything other than drop protection

>>33182550
>>33182801
>>33182882
>>33183959
You know, most of you ameicans are just sperging about all kind of 1/1,000,000 situations because you don't really need a gun. Like a kid that has been preparing for some test for ever so instead of learning the material and getting confident in his abilities to handle what comes he is sperging about some small shit, the exact type of pen he will use, practicing on pushing the button of the pen and eventually deciding to have the pen with the ink part outside even if it means drawing on himself all the time.
If you have ever been in a firefight, you would know how small this part of the real thing this is.
Granted, if you are entering a high risk area it can be prudent to rack the slide because why not?
But when you are just travelling with your family to the fucking wall-mart than no, you are not in bengazi you stupid dipshit, it's not your leather holster that shot you in your own ass, its your commando wannabe mentality. Which you wouldn't have if you saw some actual action.
I'm sure there will be some american ex military from Afghanistan or Iraq that will see my point. You remember how you would walk around with a helmet all the time and had like 4 knifes with you all the time but after seeing some action you got over it? So it's the same.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfrKhN81sUk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFzM_fOLY6M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoG4VnCuQKk

One handed for those special needs Bruce Willis faggots that think they will need it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8K4WUO6ytw

>>33190986
Never owned a Glock, but if they had a good holster with a reinforced mouth this never would have happened.

>>33176302
>carrying with a round in the chamber with a pistol that doesn't have a fucking safety
>hurrrr it's duh holster

>>33178592
but muh striker fired

>>33176302

Using a holster for a safety, ever.