Shotguns thread

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I have a shotgun. I'd rather shoot my AR though.

>relatively heavy recoil with any load
Not with .20 gauge and smaller.

>>33175336
>plus they do more dps at close ranged then a refle

hue hue

>>33175397
Sorry, forgot to mention in 12 Gauge. Taken for granted that everyone was talking about the 12 Gauges

>>33175336
>relatively heavy recoil with any load
What are you talking about? If you shoulder your shotgun right then the you should have no problem whatsoever firing light #8 target load. I literally shoot 200 (8 rounds of 25) rounds at the trap field each day on the weekends and dont feel a damn thing.

>>33175397
Actually, if the 20ga is extremely lighter than your heavy 12ga then the recoil might be felt more.

>>33175442
That's why I wrote relatively. I'm not talking about feeling or having a habit. I'm referring to the actual amount of the force. 12Ga.

>>33175493
Oh so a 12ga fires a heavier load than a 20ga? What an insightful OP.

is $275 reasonable for an old Remington 870?

>>33175336

>with the former hopefully once or twice in a lifetime or else you're living in a big fat shithole

Anon if you need to fire your 12ga at people twice in your life, you live in the fucking favella. Statistically speaking, one such scenario is very unlikely

>>33175514

What year, what model and what condition

>>33175397
>,2 gauge

>implying you could shoulder anything firing a 5 lb ball

>>33175514
If it isn't too old but still was made before the Freedom group brought them out, that isn't that bad of deal if youre just set on an 870. If it comes with any choke tubes that would make it even better. Mossbergs in general are overrated on /k/ just because everyone here is so poor, but honestly they aren't bad for a poorfag shotgun. A maverick 88 is cheap as well.

>>33175514
How old? I wouldn't touch a post-Freedom Group 870 at all because I'm not big on shit QC and a gun that rusts even in the desert.

Provided it predates that, it's a bit expensive for a used shotgun in my experience teebeeaitch but if you want an 870 then you do you.
I personally prefer the control layout on Mossbergs but that's personal preference.

>>33175336

>when a gun could be needed both for defence and food bringer

In the US you're more likely to need a firearm for self defense than to shoot dinner.

>durr SHTF WROL

So not real life then.

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>>33175572
Heh

>>33175600

>implying 1MM DGU's per year is more than 6MM deer harvested per year, and ignoring the millions of squirrels, ducks, geese, pheasants, doves, bears, etc harvested with shotguns

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>>33175589
>>33175592
>>33175570
Remington 870 wingmaster
it looks pretty weathered, I'd guess 90s at least.
I don't care for shotguns in general but it was the cheapest one my shop had and seemed reasonable.

>>33175336
shotguns are obsolete

>>33175600
You're a fucking moron.

Take your retardation back to /pol/

>>33175540
Or you own/operate a business in the ghetto, like that one watch shop owner whos shot like 8 people

>>33175660
No they're not

Whats the best version of the Ithaca 37?

>>33175336
Shotguns are a Jack-of-all-trades weapon. They can do everything, but a gun purpose-built for a given function will outperform it. The exception to this being killing birds, obviously.
If you can only own one gun, it should be a 12ga for that reason: it's excellent at a couple things and adequate for most things.

I also think shotguns are generally pretty underrated for home defense on /k/, taking a backseat to semiauto rifles. Primarily this seems to be because
>muh cops and military only use shotguns for breaching in [current year].
I think this ignores some key things like the fact that shotguns have absolutely phenomenal incapacitated/kill rates for a single shot to the torso (85% iirc, been a while since I read the study but I do remember it outpacing rifles by a bit and pistols by a ton).

>>33175655
The wingmaster is a classic bird gun (if the name didn't give it away). Seeing that picture makes me angry at the Freedom Group because you can't just buy a brand new one in pristine condition without worrying about some quality control oversight. In fact, I would be a little concerned about about the condition of the bore. Modern hunting regulations prohibit use of lead shot for duck hunting, so people are forced to use steel shot. A significant amount of usage of steel shot will damage a steel bore over time. And that is a popular shotgun for duck hunting, so there could have been some steel shot through it. The guy would have to be an avid duck hunter to really have that effect on the barrel, but its definitely worth checking it out before hand in person if you can.

>>33175690
Yes they are. The only thing they are good for is bird hunting and as a breaching tool, for everything else there are much better options.

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My stubby

>>33175747
post AR

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love my pump gun.

>>33175706
I'll believe you when you can start shooting shit like rock salt and nails from your AR

>>33175706
>The only thing they are good for is bird hunting
You say that as if turkeys are not the most noble and challenging game to hunt in North America.

>>33175706
They're perfectly capable of everything except mid-long range engagements.
The fact that muh oper8ors use ARs doesnt mean that your mildly proficient everyday guy can't make good use of a shotgun.

>>33175704
Well I do believe that here in this place people will always shill about the AR as this being a US board and there the AR platform is like a VW Golf TDI for Europeans; actually I feel that outside the US you will find that smooth bore guns far overwhelm other kind of guns, then you'll have 9mm pistols and then AKs.

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>>33175752
That Is a can cannon on one of my extra KAC lowers

>>33175660

People shouldn't spend their money how they want?

>>33175762
your setup is orgasmic.

Thinking of picking up an inexpensive one just for home use and the occasional clay pigeon; should I even bother thinking about 20ga or just go 12 like everyone else? Ideally I'd like something my tiny wife can use too if the need arose

>>33175853
>tfw you realize that ARfaggots are so obnoxious about their raifus they're actually anti-freedom

>>33175874
If a girl can use a 20 she can use a 12. Plus 12gauge ammo is cheaper across the board.

>>33175874
It depends heavily on the gun and loads.
My dad's 20ga kicks a hell of a lot more than my pigfat 12ga's

>>33175874
>his wife can't handle a 12Ga big black gun

>>33175357
imo it's dependent on what you enjoy shooting. i enjoy shooting trap so i shoot my shotgun more, but i wouldn't shoot it from a bench otherwise. There was once tho that my friend brought his shotgun to the 100yd range w/us, shooting buckshot and slugs at 100yds was just for shits and giggles

>>33175919
she's well conditioned to stay away from the large darkies

>>33175901
i figured as such, due to mass. i guess i'll have her train at the range with me this weekend

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>>33175870
thanks komrade.

>>33175747
canada or AOW stamp?

>>33175963
SBS

>>33175762
I'm still waiting on that timestamp.

>>33175938
Results? How did shotgun perform at that range?

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I'm not a big shotgun fan, but I have a couple.

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I'm not sure why I bought it but I got a Mossberg model 190 16 gauge shotgun. I got it at an auction for $120 a few weeks ago, I still haven't shot it yet.

I think it's kind of cool personally

>>33176121
>I think it's kind of cool personally
I agree. I don't want one personally, but I can appreciate it.

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>>33175955
There is always the way round man.

Hudly dudly! I want shell holder for my 870. Preferably a 4 shot side saddle (or whatever the name of that thingamajig's) Any idea what should I buy?
Also what does /k/ think about Blackhawks tactical gen2 stock?

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>>33176029
I like my shotgun. I pretty much never shoot it. For those that do, what kind of shooting do you do?

>>33176178
just buy an AR

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>>33176029
?...

>>33176183
Trap, skeet and practical.

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>>33176183
Didn't mean to reply to the post, except to ask why the hell people ask for timestamps, it's pointless.

I was thinking of having the barrel threaded for chokes. Maybe ported too. Something about wood stocks is supremely supremely comfy, they just seem "warm"

>>33176225
Oh.... nvm

>>33175336
My current go-to weapon for home defense is a SCAR 17S. Should I trade it out for a 7+1 round Benelli M4?

I need to know which meme I should meme. Help me /k/.

>>33176459
buy an AR

>>33176482
do you believe that anyone who likes shotguns outside of bird hunting couldn't possibly own an AR?
I have a few ARs. plus an AK and .308.
...still would grab my 12ga for defensive engagement.

>>33176482
>

>>33176532
He's being a shit, don't give him the (you)s he desires.

I'm about to be a new gun owner (in Chicago, yeah...) And I really want an 1897 Winchester Trench gun. Anyone here ever use one?

>>33176459
Double barrel ol' cowboi shootter. Scar17 sounds like fucking overkill for indoors defending.

Personal choice was870

Really don't matter which you pick. 870 or Mossberg. Go and fiddle them and pick which you like most.

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Any reason I shouldn't buy a Mossberg 930 (pic related version) for $389? I have no intention to hunt, it'd just be a "maybe" home defense gun, and most just cool shotgun to dick around with and shoot whatever for fun

8-shots in an 18.5" barrel, semi auto for the price seems killer, watched a few youtube videos and they seem good

>>33175357
M37 master race reporting. beautiful mate.

>>33176917
For that price, if it's in good condition, it's worth it.

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>>33176953
>>33175357
>tfw I will probably never own a Ithaca 37
It hurts.

>>33175645
He said "need".

No one has "needed" to hunt for food outside of Alaska in the US for a long time.

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Got one of these for $250 last year, Did I do good?

>>33177060
A shotgun is needed to hunt birds everywhere and durr in many other areas. There is no legal alternative to pursue these game, thus a shotgun is necessary. QED.

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My multimeme is showing.

>>33177096
Yes.

>>33177021

Brand new. was $420 last week on their site. now it's a damn near half MSRP, which is why I wondered if there was something I didn't know about it

>>33175762
Only nerds put optics on their shotgun.

>>33177096
Never been a fan of camo on a gun, but for that price it's absolutely a good deal. Hell, the former comment is only personal preference.

>>33177289
t.fudd

Shotguns are for doors and birds.
Absolutely nothing else.

>>33177357
They are perfectly fine for all game, actually. I'm not sure where this meme of only for bird. But most of /k/ are tacticool mall ninjas who don't hunt and have never shot at anything other than a paper target.

>>33177400

dubs of truth

>>33177400
>perfectly fine
No, they adequate. Adequate and inferior.

>>33175336
>inb4 .22
Although you can carry a lot of .22, you can take on any game in America. However you can get hand reloadable brass shells, and since the lead isn't coated you can also make your own shot.

The only issue is primers.

>>33177417
Buckshot is perfectly fine for deer (I wonder if that is why it is called buckshot), boar, coyote, any medium game that you would use a .30 caliber for. People take moose with 12ga slugs, as well. Not to mention all smaller games like squirrels and rabbits that you can't take with a .30 caliber without losing all the meat just by using a light and small shotsize.

Only time it isn't adequate is if you are in the open plains of the west or some shit. If youre shooting mule deer at 300 yards, okay fine a 12 ga isn't that good. But youre scoped .308 that you use for 300 yards is no good in the woods where I live.

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>>33175638
Nice watermark :^)

>>33177522
>Alaskan Game and Fish literally recommends a 12g with slugs for bear protection

>>33175660
In like a war, I'd say yes. It's range is on par with a pistol and it's not good against body armor, though does have a nice use for door breaching.

But OP wasn't talking about war. For day to day use, a shotgun can pretty much do it all.

>>33175762
what hoodie?
what chestrig?

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Shotguns are the most practical gun, #4 high brass is the most practical shell

>>33177126
You're conflating requiring a tool for a chosen activity and that activity being necessary.

>>33177689
I thought it was #4 buckshot that everyone was talking about for home defense. Turkey loads have a dense pattern sure, but #4 birdshot you have there are pretty tiny pellets.

>>33175336
own an ak and a few 9mms, plan on getting a mossberg next, but can't decide between a 500 or 590, which is quite a bit more expensive just for a thicker barrel

>>33177743
since youre going full meme tier collection, you gotta go with the 590A1

>>33177743
if its not going to be your only gun 500
590 might be the best hd pump shotgun but a pump shotguns a mediorce choice for hd.
if i wanna use a shotgun i bring the 500 while the 590 defends the closet.

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>>33177735
Turkey shot passes the denim test with flying colors and won't blast through a target and kill someone in the next room or destroy your shit

Second pellet is a #4

>>33175357
>got some new parts for my ar in the mail today

I know that feel, haven't shot either of my shotguns in a while

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>>33177661
>hoodie
>chestrig
...

Arc'teryx hardshell jacket.
BFG BeltMinus with various pouches.

>>33175572
You don't understand how gauges work, do you?

>>33177811
I use those very same turkey loads in your box for turkey hunting, and I've seen how ineffective they are against coyote. They always run away and you gotta track them down after they run themselves dead. I know human skin and coyote hide are different, and I'm sure there are some nice youtube videos showing turkey loads do good against gel. I would rather trust buckshot a #3 or #4 buckshot, over a turkey load to incapacitate a person and without the over penetration of a OO buck.

Not to mention that they are magnum 3" shell firing 1 7/8oz of shot. Those fuckers kick. The purpose of them is to put a dense pattern of shot even out to 50 yards that will cover a turkey's neck.

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This is what I got.

>>33175572
>Implying they didn't used to make a 2 gauge as a smooth bore elephant gun

Gauge means that's how many slugs in that gauge it took to make a pound when they used brass cased shells except for .410 which is diameter

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N..no rust yet...

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>>33177689
>#4 bird rather than #4 buck

>>33178317
Someone gets hit across a room with high brass turkey shot, they're not getting back up

>>33177743
I prefer the 500 for shorter OAL but if the +3 capacity outweighs that for you get the 590.
590A1 is shit though. Don't get that. Ghost rings are the wrong way to use a shotgun (point, don't aim), the barrel is thicker so retards don't smash it when they accidentally leave it in heavy doors like those on ships and the metal FCG doesn't add shit over the polymer one except weight. I have a 50 year-old 500 with polymer trigger group that's still going strong and it's had the shit beat out of it by everyone that's owned it, me included.
"Mil-spec" in this case means "grunts are crayon-eating retards who will find a way to break anything."

>>33178353
#BB is the smallest birdshot I'd use on a person.

>>33177918
>Implying .2 gauge isn't bigger than 20

>>33178353
So youre telling me that after hundreds of years of people using shot pellets in both war and hunting that you discovered a small shot pellets meant for bird are actually suitable for humans?

At least the most important thing is just knowing how to operating your gun and firing effectively. If you hit your target you will at least have some advantage even if your puny bird pellets don't fully incapacitate them.

But if you miss, that is 1 7/8oz of lead going somewhere you don't want it since you chose a magnum turkey load. It isn't like you don't have to worry about what is behind where you are shooting. That will always be a factor regardless.

>>33178464
>So youre telling me that after hundreds of years of people using shot pellets in both war and hunting that you discovered a small shot pellets meant for bird are actually suitable for humans?

>Rifles have universally gone from 7.62x39, 51 and 54R to 5.56x45 and 5.45x39

>>33178574
And the limited use shotguns still have in the military is buckshot, so what is your point?

Not to mention the examples you listed, they are going to cartridges that are more easy to control in sub 300 yard distances. The magnum turkey loads you keep talking about kick more than a regular 2 3/4" buckshot in addition to capacity lose in the magazine tube, so it is a moot point.

>>33177918
"Gauge" refers to the diameter of a sphere of lead that will fit in the bore.
"12 Gauge" means the sphere in question weighs 1/12 of a pound.
Smaller numbers=bigger bore
".20 gauge" is fucking enormous bro.
"20 gauge" is smaller than 12ga.

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>>33178574
>Rifles have universally gone from 7.62x39, 51 and 54R to 5.56x45 and 5.45x39
B8 but I'll bite:
1) Russia still issues both 7.62x39 and 5.45x39 depending on role and environment because both rounds have their strong points.
2) The full-power cartridges in question are still fielded, just in a different role
3) The transition to intermediate cartridges has more to do with doctrinal changes and mechanical differences changing engagement distances in wars. Most modern conflict happens inside 300m and inside that distance volume of fire generally determines who wins. 7.62x51 weighs significantly more than 5.56x45, meaning soldiers can carry more 5.56, meaning they can shoot more.

8/8

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>>33175336
English bad. Am tried a finger shotgun pull. Fancy shoulder pull hurt when finger push. Mossberg less pull but house woman allow not much. Sad.

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>>33178764
I don't know what you're trying to say friend. Try again?

>>33178764
>Fancy shoulder pull hurt when finger push.
You don't say?

>>33178015
>shells on the stock
Please no.

>>33178845
Ok.
>house woman
>finger push on deer search
>Mossberg
>shoulder pull fancy did hurt
>not hard
>bruise weak
>house woman sight
>bad work
>no house protect for coal.

Depress.

>>33178936
where else are you going to keep the slugs in case jamal runs away

>>33178936
Por que?

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Posting my boomsticks

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>>33179139

>>33178965
How about in a place that doesn't mess up his left hand transition and isn't completely shit to reload from? Like literally anywhere else.

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>>33179155

>>33178195
is that a mossberg? what rail is that?

What is a good all-round shotgun barrel length? I really want a 590a1, but I want to only own one shotgun for hunting, skeet, and hd. I don't want it of the length isn't just right.

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>>33179184

>>33179198
you could just have different barrels.

>>33179165
Side barrel powder slide?

Round powder holder side barrel expedient.

Expedient less?

Debate

>>33179198
28

>>33178380
>shotgun (point, don't aim)
Thats only true for wingshooting. The pattern isn't larger than your hand at real close range so still need to aim it properly. When you get like 15/20 yards out then out of an open choke the pattern gets a wide but not by much. The point youre making about the ghost ring is still valid though. If youre using a bead sight like youre supposed to, then you can get on the target faster than a ghost ring iron sight. Honestly a bead sight is very similar to a red dot in that easy fast acquisition, though you have to stay in the gun so your always aiming down where the gun is pointing. If you were mainly using slugs then ghost ring or some kind of rifle style sight would help.

>>33179198
590a1 comes in cylinder bore fixed choke which is not very good for hunting. Also ghost rings are memes and this anon is right about a good general length >>33179236

>>33179198
Get a Mossberg 500 Crown Combo. It comes with both a 28 and 18 inch barrel.

>>33179198
Special purpose with 20" barrel. Lots of rounds and you can swap for longer one for hunting and shit

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>>33179231
Take a minute to compose yourself. Perhaps have a glass of refreshing grape soda to calm your nerves. The white man's words are still new to you. Take your time.

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>>33179352
Georgian blind linguistic instruction

Apptitude instruction. No American? 56%

Fax work patron pursued if money.

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>>33179425
>>33179352
>>33179231
I have no idea what the fuck is going on

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Pretty soon the third generation will be lugging these workhorses around the bayou.

>>33179464
Transfrom slow. Sight ink wood refined.

Georgian blind linguistic instruction

House woman abhor.

Trying location. Break attempt.

>>33179610
Translate*

>>33179610
are you using google translate or something?

>Trying location. Break attempt.

why am I hearing this in the Combine Overwatch voice?

>>33177966
The wood and plastic is actually a kind of cool combo, even though the forend looks like it has 5 o'clock shadow pubes

>>33176230
Gayer, gay, and what sort of practical?

Sporting clays is the only acceptable clay shooting sport.

>>33177966
also is that fucking paint on the serial number

>>33176917
I have the long barrelled version for sporting clays. Hasn't' failed me yet..

>>33179635
Translate sight ink wood refined.

Wood extended minute respond.

My inherited Remington 1100 isn't fully ejecting about 1/4 spent shells. I'm planning to replace the O-ring, should I replace piston seals or anything else?

>>33179732
Your head gasket is fucked

>>33177291
Yeah, I wasn't sure about the camo but the deal was amazingly good, the guy I bought it from said he only put a box through it, no real wear and tear either. First shotgun I've gotten.

t. owns 8 handguns

I think I'm about to inherit an 1100. What do you guys think of them? New to guns here

>>33179732
>>33179812
Two different guys with a similar situation, or the same one? You decide.

Just sold my inherited 1100 for $500 to put towards a 930. Did I do good?

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>>33179823
I already inherited mine. Pic related.

>>33179610

Nigger. Don't be such a.

>>33179846
Groovy. Always wanted to pick one up.

>>33179823
I'm the guy who is about to inherit his but it looks like everybody is inheriting an 1100

>>33179873
It is (or was) America's best selling semi-automatic shotgun, so it's not surprising a lot of people inherit them.

>>33179873
Mostly just joking about similar gun situations in a close timeframe, like>>33179832
here just contributed to.

About to die and inherit my 1100 to one of my family members but I might just throw it away because I only have one relative who likes guns

>large and thinks he's in charge
>owns four plate carriers, none with plates
>constantly smells like a mix of Harbor Freight and a freshly opened bag of Fritos
>gives me shit for carrying a 1911 cocked and locked while he carries a Glock 22 with a half empty mag for "weight reduction"

What would you guys do?

>>33179938
give to me.

>>33176459
Mossberg 590a1

>>33179969
590 shockwave

>>33179938

Domestic violence-related multiple homicide followed by barricaded standoff with the police.

>>33177034
Sorry bud. Love my dads old Ithaca. I think they are still in business? But uv heard of quality issues

>>33175655
print out a serial number cheat sheet for the year of production, before you go back to look at it/buy it.

also remember that wilson combat has a restoration program for 870's for a good price.
>>33179993
you. you got your priorities in order.

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>>33179975
Y tho.

>>33180117
for the autismo

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>>33177586
Of all the recommendations you could choose for anti-bear assault weaponry and you choose a 12 gauge shotgun with a 1 oz slug...

>>33178649
8 gauge is bigger than 12 gauge though wtf

>>33175336
Reduced recoil 00 buckshot ftw

What are some double barrel side by side guns that can shoot 3 1/2 inch loads?

I legitimately cannot find jack shit on google

>>33180381
....you stupid or something, boy?

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>>33180385
>Reduced recoil
>AKA "low-power"

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>>33179993
Welcome to /k/

>>33180405
i was looking for the same. closest i found was one over under, but i cant seem to find the same one again.

>>33180433
I'm starting to feel like it doesn't exist at all or its so fucking rare its gonna be out of my budget D:

>>33180410
>>33180420
Literall 8 gauge is huge, 12 gauge is big and 20 gauge is baby.

Brass is not lead?

Low recoil is good for close combats.

>>33180442
same. i figured "why not go for a double rifle?" then realized they hover in the 6k range.

>>33180442
http://www.tristararms.com/products/3-12-mag/overunder/

there is the O/U

>>33180470
that's looking very good for a bird gun and the price isn't so bad neither

Now if only that's a side by side

>>33180494
looks like you need to go on up to 10 gauge

>>33180487
What gun is that?

>>33180445
>Literall 8 gauge is huge, 12 gauge is big and 20 gauge is baby.
No shit, Sherlock. Go read the post again.
>The smaller the gauge, the bigger the bore

>Brass is not lead?
Again, no shit?

>Low recoil is good for close combats.
>not using full-power rounds because your little babby shoulder can't take it
Git gud or get a smaller gun. Recoil is the "equal and opposite reaction" of the force of your shot going the other way. The lower the recoil, the less power your shot has.
This is day one shit.
If #00 buck is too much for you then use a smaller load. #4 buck is pretty well agreed-upon to be the smallest you wanna go but there's no reason to use neutered loads, ever, which is what "low-recoil" means.

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>>33175336
The safety on my mossberg 500 has had huge problems. Haven't sent it in yet but mossberg is gonna fix it for free. Only maybe 1,500 shells though it, 1,450 being birdshot.

The Elzetta light mount rocks by the way

>>33180454
SxS guns in general are more expensive than most people realize because we think "break-open" means "simple," but the process of having two barrels hit a single point-of-aim is pretty delicate engineering.
The day I realized a cheap SxS shotgun cost twice as much as a good pump-action was a sad one for me

>>33180694
>The safety on my mossberg 500 has had huge problems
Like?

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>>33180735
>rack pump
>safety jumps on
>shoot literally any ammo
>safety jumps on

You get the idea. Someone said that happens if you fuck with the trigger outside of the Receiver, but I've never dropped the hammer or anything.

Alright /k/, I've wanted a 12 Guage pump shotgun to have some fun with and make fuck-around loads. What is the cheapest pump action I can find that isn't complete shit, and how much should I pay for one?
Currently eyeing the maverick 88, but know nothing and bout shotguns

>>33180746
There's a little ball-bearing inside with a detent spring behind it that holds the switch in position. Yours is gone for some reason. You sure you didn't take it apart?

Is it advisable to avoid new Remington 870s and get old ones or go for alternatives like Mossberg or Winchester?

>>33180759
mav 88 is a perfect shotgun for you

no thrills but operable at a budget and will do anything you want to fuck around with

>>33180836
Fuck yes I'm sure. Theres some sort of anti tamper screw on there, I ain't fucking with that shit

>>33180850
Weird then. And it hasn't always done that?

Because yeah, that bearing and detent are gone.

>>33180874
Nope. It's worked fucking great, then I took it from the case one day at home and noticed the issue. Mossberg rep was not surprised at all.

>>33180847
if you really want an 870 cause you love the design but cant find an older used one the express is an acceptable option. its not a cost effective or smart choice but under rems unfinished rush job there is a good gun. its like buying a knife whose maker didnt bother to sharpen them even though they used to come razorsharp 2 decades ago. if you are willing to put in work an express can be ok. or you could just buy a 500 and not have to put in work to get something out of the box acceptable.

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>>33180891
Not doubting you, I've had interior parts magically vanish from firearms before too.

The whole mechanism screws into the hook on the right, and the spring and ball sit in a hole in the receiver. The ball catches on the plate and keeps it in position. Basically the only part of your safety actually mounted to the receiver has disappeared.

>>33180931
How odd that it happens. Probably just wear.

Well anon I just learned a little more about my gun because of you, so thank you for that

>>33180931
what probably happened is the bb got stuck in one of the plastic holes when it widened out so theres no more tension

>>33178195
still looks like shit

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Why isn't bird shot good for HD? Does shooting a gorillian tiny pellets with a larger spread have a huge change to fuck up someone's eyes and throat?

>>33181000
Unless you're in a tiny apartment with paper walls birdshot is terrible.

Get some 00buck or something

>>33180657

Mossberg SA-20 in 20GA

>>33181000
birdshot is weak as fuck when it spreads out theres shit like teenagers getting shot 3 times and surviving
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_X_PtJwNu3Q

>>33181000
Don't get me wrong, inside a certain range birdshot's gonna do exactly the same thing as buck. But not far past that it's gonna hurt really bad but not do any permanent damage.

Dick Cheney shot a guy in the face with birdshot hinting quail. A guy I know's dad caught a load of birdshot in the head from about 25' across a road while turkey hunting and survived with no permanent damage, which puts >>33177689 >>33177811 into question too, don't it?

It's designed to kill birds of various sizes without fucking them up too bad to eat. You sure you wanna trust it to drop a 200lb man?

>>33175835
>6.66 meme caliber

why even bother?

>>33180931

I just replaced the shitty plastic safety with the aluminum version two weeks ago. Feels so much better now.

Is the detent spring supposed to be protruding outward with the detent ball loose on top? I've seen YT videos of people removing their safety buttons, and the ball is sitting snuggly in place in the hole over the spring for their shotgun.

>>33177918
>>33177970
Go back to reading comprehension class

>>33178962
>>33178764
I think he's trying to say he took a Mossberg hunting to try and take a deer, he bruised his shoulder shooting said Mossberg, and his wife is angry.

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Out of all my guns my scattergat is by far my favorite to go out with.

>>33179610

AFAIK this guy is blind and is dictating to his PC. Presumably his PC doesnt quite understand CYKA BLYAT RUSH B CHEEKI BREEKI hence the output

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I recently picked up a Remington 870P and want to slap a recoil pad on it.

I see a lot of people using Limbsavers, but some googling has suggested that a Pachmyer Decelerator is a better choice. Does anyone here have experience with both? Or should I buy something completely different?

>>33180487
But why 20ga?
Also, doesn't that forearm get in your way?

>>33177060
I could also argue that no one "needs" to buy their meat from a supermarket because they could just hunt it.

>>33175336
Master baiter

>>33180849
Nice, what price range should I look for so I know the merchants won't get me?

>>33179655
No ducktape

>>33183171
I have a hard plastic buttplate and shoot 1 oz slugs without any pain or discomfort. Maybe you should look into getting some menstrual pads instead.

>>33176225
Hi Grandpa

>>33181024
for home defense? Thats gonna make a fucking mess and wreck the walls. Fuck that noise.

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I see a back and forth between the Mossberg 500 and Remington 870 frequently, but what would be the better choice between the Mossberg 930 and Remington 1100?

>>33175660

Non hunting urbanite detected.

>>33175706

>bird hunting

Shit is a daily activity for some of us 1/4 of the year anon. I get a lot more real world use out of my 28" mossman than I would an AR

>>33175442
>What are you talking about?
12 ga vs 5.56

>>33180960
Certainly possible

>>33182104
The two Mossman safeties I've worked on the ball sat above the hole on the spring and the plate pushed it down into the hole
Also yeah, metal safety switch is a must on a Mossberg.

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>>33183737
I know right?

>>33184306
no more than $300

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What do you guys think of the use of a slide saddle? I always have one on my house gun. I will never turn down more rounds. But my manager who was a police officer keeps telling me they just get in the way. I don't see how though and he runs a sling with 25 shells on it and that seems like it would be more intrusive to me.

>>33186349
them getting in the way is true, on the other hand those sling shellholders are even worse.
personally i use velcro ones but usually leave em off the gun.

What size shot do you guys use for turkey? I have never been hunting before and would like to try turkey hunting. I recently bought an extra full choke for this purpose. I would like to use my 28" barrel mossberg 500.

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>>33175456
m2 is sweet as always

>>33175762
kinda dig the gray furniture

>>33186349
He's a dumb shit. Remember, just because someone is/was a cop doesn't mean they know dick about guns. I've seen a cop holding rounds in her hand demanding to know what caliber they were from the guy she took them from. I don't think either actually knew and she definitely didn't even look at the head stamp.
Those slings are unbelievably bad. Try aiming at something while a small child swings from your barrel. That's what it's like.

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>>33175336

>can't tuck a shotgun into your waistband and go about your daily business

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Do FABARM brand sells there in the US?

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>>33187253
I'm kinda lusting over this one in particular, what does /k think?
Modular as fuck but pricey and no aftermarket yet.

But damn those modern aesthetics

>>33184645
930. Better reputation. Also, fuck the freedom group. Mine even cycles mouse fart Walmart sporting loads.

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>>33175679
Kek, , niggas practically a cereal killer and all he wants to do is sell some fucking watches.

I need a link.

>>33175705
I was using some old steel shot for quail one evening. It turns into "dragon's breath" if you leave it in a house cooled by a swamp cooler for a few years

>>33178574
>militaries downgrade rifles
>keep same shot size
wonder why...

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two things i need advice one
I have a mossberg 590, and want to put some wood furniture and a bayonet. To kind of make it into a "trench gun" in a way.

Any recommendations on what bayonet I should use? Mossberg 590, I have heard the M9 beyonet sometimes doesnt work, and that the M7 works better.

Also any wood furniture recommendation? links?

Im on a budget, so cheaper is better, but anything helps,
new to shotguns

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>>33183135

>>33178353
Talk to any medical personnel that has dealt with shotgun wounds.

>>33184645
>2017
>Should I buy a Remington shotgun?
Where do these people keep coming from?
Get the Mossberg son Jesus Christ

>>33178574
You know why your argument is shit?

Because for a shotshell the weight of the lead and the velocity can remain the same while the composition of the shot itself varies wildly from solid brass slugs to literal powdered metal.

This is in no way comparable to full power cartridges vs intermediates

>>33175655

I just got a 1979 Wingmaster with an 18 barrel and a 5+1 setup. It looks like a really classy riot gun. So hot.

>>33187914
>Buy 590 Special Purpose
>Buy wood furniture

What 590 do you have?
A1?
Does it already have a heat shield?

Not sure about the M9 but I use an Ontario M7 on my 590SP and it fits fine.

>>33176121
Noice specimen I has one in 20ga but its got no clip or compensater

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I finally did it
only hurt myself a little
I still need to make a wooden grip and either blue it or coat it somehow.

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>>33189669
other benefits

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>>33189723
The bayonet points up a little because that's how the 590A1's bayonet mount is, it happens with all bayonets. It's not really near the line of the bore though

>>33189669
>>33189723
whoa nice

destined for innawoods

>>33177096
Holy shit yes, in my country they cost like $760

>>33176183
What shotgun is this? Manufacturer?

>>33189669
who makes comically long m9 bayonets?

>>33191417
mossberg 590 he swapped out the furniture

>>33177289
This. literally the ONLY effect is added bulk to your shotgun.

And no I'm not a fudd. All my guns are black and I've never hunted before>>33177347

>>33191480
Nobody, I bought a cheap knockoff m1917 bayonet and a cheap AR15 bayonet off amazon and kitbashed them. I had to do a lot of cutting and filing to make the mounting hardware fit. Was worth it though, stubby bayonets look silly on a 590a1. Them trench gun aesthetics.

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Unfortunately don't have a better picture atm. It's an 870 Super Mag with a 12" barrel.

>>33191559
I meant a m1905. A m1917 bayonet would be more accurate but I couldn't find a sufficiently cheap repro for a project that I didn't know would be successful

https://www.amazon.com/SZCO-Supplies-926826-M1905-Bayonet/dp/B00870XRZ0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1488611402&sr=8-1&keywords=m1905+bayonet

I went with this bayonet for the mounting hardware because the back clip attached with a hex bolt. Internally the blade was attached to a tube which made the conversion easier than it would have been otherwise. The slot in the crossguard wasn't wide enough to fit the 1905 blade, so I had to file it to be longer while still being in the middle of the crossguard.
https://www.amazon.com/Defender-Xtreme-Bayonet-Combat-Handle/dp/B00IJT3LL4/ref=sr_1_18?ie=UTF8&qid=1488611505&sr=8-18&keywords=ar15+bayonet

>>33191528
t. fudd

>>33187253
Not that I know of.

Which is a shame because they are sexy as hell.

>>33184358
wow you're so cool. maybe somebody trying to enjoy their hobby without discomfort isn't a bad thing? Just because you can be ridiculously macho to compensate for your tiny penis doesn't mean shoulder pain from shotguns is not a real thing

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I am going to buy a Mossberg Shockwave, and it will be my primary home defense gun because I have a serious hardon for short barreled shotguns.

I want a shotgun like the mossberg 590 but I need it in a 20 gauge for my wife to use too. What is a good replacement for it?

>>33191776
Mossberg 500 in 20 gauge.

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>>33175336

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>>33175336
obsolete for hd when pccs exist

>>33192166
When 00 buckshot stops killing people.

>>33176156
>actually marrying someone
nigga that remindes me of a new law in my third world country that say that if a man and a woman marry, then both of them are responsable of their own shit and cannot reclaim anything during a divorce
even better you can dump your wife without any reason if you want, judge won't say shit and you keep your stuff

how does the ithaca 37 even work? My friend's maverick 88 has an ejection hole for the spent shell, which when cycled, ejects at the same time as a new shell is loaded into the feeding ramp in the hole in the bottom. since the ithaca 37 has only one hole, the hole in the bottom, how does it preform both operations at the same time? ejection and feeding at the same racking movement?

sorry if autism, am not big on shotguns

Bong here - proud owner of an AYA No. 2 SBS SLE

Have a couple of others too, and a rifle. Used to have pistols to, until the faggot Hamilton gave cause for the UK politicians to "do something"

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I need help shotgunbros. I was gifted a Savage 69RXL by my stepfather. The problem? Front sight bead is sheared off. How do I remove it without power tools or fucking up the situation more?

>>33192553
If the bead is metal they are usually screwed in - plastic can be a push-fit.

Depending on the diameter of the sheared-off part left in the rib, then drilling down the centre and a screw extractor.

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>>33192567
It's metal. Here's a better picture. Would a circular hole in the top allow me to unscrew it? I have super-tiny flat/philips screwdrivers.

>>33192570
It might, but it depends how tight the fit of the thread is and if Locktite was used.

I believe you can get left-hand drills (not kidding) - if you could get one it might ease it out as you drilled with the drill in reverse.. The problem with any drilled hole will be getting the hole started without the drill jumping off and onto the blued barrel. From your slightly fuzzy photo, to looks like it's broken off flush, which is a shame. if it's slightly proud you could try slotting it with a Dremel and then use a screwdriver. Soak it in a releasing fluid first.

If the bead is brass then warming the barrel will make it grip tighter - brass expands more than steel.

Good luck

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Anybody have a picture of a Benelli M3 Entry (14") with a classic non-collapsible stock without pistol grip?

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Just got my new 18.5" 590A1


Was looking at tube extensions, and unless I'm losing my mind my tube is significantly longer than like every other 590A1 18.5" I've seen.

Most people seem to say the S&J Hardware +2 extension is the way to go which ends flush with the barrel, only it's 6.75" which would CLEARLY fly clear past my barrel.

What's the deal? Did they change the tube design recently or something?

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>>33192658
This is the exact model I ordered for comparison to the catalog photo.

>>33192570
Looks like a job for a gunsmith to me, homeboy

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My Franchi al-48

Noguns here, I don't understand a couple things about chokes.

Can you fire shot out of a slug barrel in a home defense context? How often can you fire lead shot out of a rifled barrel before it affects the rifling?

>>33194484
For slug barrel you mean a fully rifled one? If so yes you can fire shot in a rifled bbl but you'd have a weird, donut shaped fast spread.
Leading can be a serious issue especially with bare shot. 'Cupped' shit into wads should mitigate the problem. But understand we are talking a very orthodox use of a rifled shotgun.

Also google 'paradox choke' and learn about how partial rifling works in hunting

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>>33192618

no one seems to have one.

>>33192166
> take a pistol cartridge that is objectively inferior to a rifle cartridge and then shoot it from a rifle platform

Good idea

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>>33192618
here's an M4

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>>33195497

So close and yet so far...

Thanks though.

>>33175874
I "graduated" from my sub-4lb single shot 20ga to a 12ga BPS when I was 9, and never had a problem with recoil.

Your bitch is physically capable of handling it. Whether she is mentally capable is on you.
>that 20ga was fucking punishing and I still dont like shooting it, more felt recoil with target loads than my 10ga SP10 with 3.5" goose loads

>>33176183
Trap, skeet, 5 stand, sporting clays, hunters clays, ducks, geese, doves, sandhill cranes, quail, pheasants, chukar, grouse, deer, boar, rabbits, squirrels, snakes, woodchuck, coyotes, muskrat, turkeys, and people.

>>33180487
what caliber of meme does it take?

>>33192349

The shell lifter is a sort of j-shaped two-pronged fork that doubles as the ejector. When the gun is in battery it rests above the bolt.

When you cycle the action, lifter is cammed down and ejects the shell. When the bolt is in its rearmost position, the bolt releases the shell interruptor and the next round feeds on top of the lifter. Bolt is cycled forward and the round is fed into the chamber.

>>33195649
You forgot that they are awesome at just exploding shit up with inexpense ammo.

Basically they are the hammer of the guns world

>>33192349
It has a lift fork that kicks the fired hull out the bottom. As it swings down it releases a new shell .

>>33180487
>mega milk
That's a blast from the past.

>>33194467
good lookin gun
hows she shoot?

>>33178353
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_F_KuFzjOGA

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>>33175669

>>33192658
>>33192682
Bump for answers.

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A cheap Chinese knockoff, but hasn't failed me yet.

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>>33197989
Looks about right for a 18.5" bbl and a 5-shot tube. Compare to my 500.
Generally 20" bbl and 7-shot tube sit flush, so I can't really imagine a scenario where a 7-shot tube doesn't stick out past a 18.5"bbl.
That's just my guess though. I know jack shit about 590A1s.

>>33189669
I NEED that bayonet anon, where do i get one

>>33195922
>>33196111
that's cool as heck, last night drunk me couldn't figure it out but now it makes complete sense

why don't more shotguns use that design principle?

>>33198171
Stevens? I have the grip model, the sights were much better than the Maverick (14)88

>>33198571
hawk 982

>>33198468
>why don't more shotguns use that design principle?
Expensive to produce, easier to fuck up.
M37s are the Cadillacs of pumpguns
>tfw want one but already have multiple pumpguns crowding safe

>inb4 "NEED"
I'm trying to get my finances under control /k/ back off

>>33198171
>>33198648
Better than the originals right now, to be honest family
Only downside is they don't take Remington barrels.

.>>33198571
>Maverick (14)88
Can we please have one goddamn thread where you /pol/fags keep your goddamn dick in your pants?

>>33178764
At least you tried, that's what counts.

>>33198735
/k/ is /pol/ but for guns

>>33181024
>>33181055
>>33181000
... what about bird shot with the air gaps filled with a gelatin incendiary?

>>33175336
Rifles are more fun to shoot, but you are not wrong.

>>33175973
How long did it take you to get the gun, how do you like it?

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How does /k/ feel about the ksg?

>>33198696
are ithaca 37s that expensive? I constantly find them for around 350 canadabux up here, though they are mostly skeet models or something, not the aesthetic military-looking model

>>33199718
They run $300-$500 used for long-barreled birdguns. It's not about not being able to afford it. It's that I don't need to drop a few hundred on another shotgun sitting next to my other 3 shotguns.

>>33199718
Or wait are you talking about them being expensive to produce? It's just in terms of the specs required, the care put into them, and the materials used. It costs more to make a 37 than a Mossman or Remington does, and when those are the primary competitors, you need to price it similarly.

Hell Remington's hurting and cutting corners because they can't compete with Mossberg.

>>33199868
Oh I see

I was thinking of picking up some non-collectible ithaca 37 (like a post war birdgun) and cutting it down to a more manageable length for bear/predator defense and grouse hunting while hiking around.

>>33199648
Couple of guys have shot their hands off from trying to mag dump ksgs.

Is that really the guns fault? No, but I like my hands so no thanks.

>>33199905
why is remington having a tough time?

>>33200048
There are a couple posts about it ITT
Basically they were bought out by a big conglomerate (Freedom Group) and their QC went to shit, presumably to increase profit margins and stay competitive with Mossberg, which pretty much dominated the "solid budget shotguns" category and thus sets what an acceptable price for a good shotgun is.
So Remington across the board, but particularly their budget models, have a ton of issues now. Basically they're coasting due to the company's excellent reputation but it can't last forever

Is shooting a pump even okay for skeet or sporting clays? I want to try it out to see if I like it, but for some fucking reason every place around here that does it doesn't rent