Desert Tech continues to be the worst

>>33174213
>2017
>still believing in the mdr
Kek

>>33174259
Honestly, I don't.
Even if it ever becomes a thing you can actually buy, the fact that it requires the use of tools to field strip is a deal killer for me.
When the time comes, I'll almost certainly be buying a SCAR 17S instead,

>>33174213

Why would anybody not just get an RDB or tavor instead at this point?

Why all the lust for a totally unproven memegun from a totally unreliable company?

>>33174594
RDB and Tavor aren't available in .308

>>33174598
The RFB is a .308 bullpup for like half the price of the MDR.
The MDR lost my interest as soon as that happened.

>>33174610
The RFB is heavy, held together with a buch of screws, and is notoriously picky about which sepcific metric FAL mags it'll deign to feed from.

>>33174646

Isn't the MDR also heavy and held together with a bunch of screws?

Also it's not like anybody's done any reliability testing with the MDR yet

>>33174646
Whats wrong with screws? Do they loosen or something?

>>33174803
easy to lose and requires a tool for basic maintenancemaintenance and dejamming.

>>33174803
Nothing, even your average AR is held together with some screws. Literally none of the parts that are necessary are held together with screws on the RFB.

That said I'm actually gonna put in an order for the MDR soon.

>>33174563
I though you could field strip without tools, but you needed tools to change the barrel. Is that incorrect?

The idea of these being used against infantry gets me vibes of changing warfare like ww1. What could you do to a tank that has one? It kills infantry, aircraft and warheads with equal ease from a mile away. Even MBTs might get their optics fried.

>>33174213
Nah man it'll be out next year

>finally get MDR
>spare parts dry up entirely after 5 years
>never shoot it again or pay out the ass for custom machined parts
>basically no collector's value
Meme guns are a mistake.

>>33174213
Just because Obama's no longer in office doesn't mean anons can't hope!

>>33175178

Any semiautomatic rifle thats not an AR Is a meme

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>>33174910
I only have 2 "screws" in my AR, they hold the carrier key onto the carrier, actually they are technically nuts.

but you probably know more about nuts than me.

at least your mom does.

>>33175194
Nah. FN will still sell you FNC parts if you have a serial number. Anything from a decent company is fine. Meanwhile SIG 556 parts are unobtanium because fuck Americans I guess.

>>33175217

Fucking savage

>>33174646
>Heavy
It's lighter than anything except the SCAR, and maybe a few very specific ar10 builds.
>Screws
...
>Mags
No, not with new production ones anyways.

>>33174907
>>33174646
The only thing that's "held together with screws" are the handguard, grip and buttpad. The handguard and grip use screws because they are clamshells and you never need to take them apart. As far as this mystical tool you speak of for, "basic maintenancemaintenance and dejamming", I really have no fucking clue what you're talking about.

>>33174213
Meme Tech isn't going to release a rifle this year, senpai. You can expect their factory to catch fire or some shit again soon to delay the product for another year.

>>33175217
Yeah, your gun uses screw to hold together essential bits. The RFB doesn't hold any essential parts on with screws.

>>33175217
What about your grip? U running a keymod? U running screw on picatinny accessories? What about your castle nut? Barrel nut perhaps?

Shit nigga, for someone getting screwed all the time, you sure don't know what one looks like. Then again, it's hard to look at your own asshole.

>>33174926
That's correct, 2 captive pins to access the bolt carrier/chamber.
Tool required for hand guard and barrel removal.

>>33175620
>I don't know the difference between a nut and screw

>>33174213
It's been a year of "never gonna happen"

>Britain will never vote for brexit.
>Trump will never become president
>Nationalism will never finally come back to Europe
>Mad dog will never become secdef

You never know anon, this may finally be the year.

>>33174926
Based on the video they put out right before SHOT 2017, you need to remove the barrel to access the breech for cleaning.
It's not like a Tavor or AUG where the butt comes off and all the rifle guts come out the back.

>>33175728

That all happened last year anon. The MDR will never come if never came out in Current Year -1

Unless I get dubs

>>33175856
Stop ruining my dreams

>>33174213
play this while looking at op's pic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sXQoGcMN1U

>>33175856
Better luck next year.

>>33176084
When's the Chinese new year?

>>33176228
Last month.

>>33176259
Fuck, fiscal year it is. MDR will come out October

>>33176411
That's still 2018.

>>33176423
While yes it'll technically be fiscal year 2018 it'll happen in October 2017

>>33174213
I SWEAR TO GOD I'LL BUY THE K&M BULLPUP UNFUCK YOUR SHIT DT

>>33176527
>K&M BULLPUP
It actually looks really nice.

>>33176540
yeah and by the time the MDR comes out I'll have saved up another 2.5k to buy one. i'll probably be too busy play my copy of halflife 3 to shoot it though

>>33176527
Well fuck now I'm torn between DT and K&M does anyone have any info on the pros and cons of each rifle? Other than the very obvious price?

>>33176652
The K&M doesn't have any heat shielding or polymer components, so it gets hot really fast. You'll probably want to run a VFG.
It also uses a proprietary negative-space mounting system on the sides of the handguard instead of mlok or keymod.

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>>33174213
You in the US will probably have these sooner than this.

>>33176847
So that can be negated with a high quality AFG or VFG, then what's the major issue with the mod system? Does it mean it's just harder to get your hands on?

Because if these are the only two complaints then I don't see why I'd waste an additional $400 on the MDR and have to wait.

>>33177187
But, but the MDR will be the best rifle because DTI told me so!

>>33177484
Smart ass, but all jokes aside.

From what I'm seeing the M17 is cheaper, lighter and already available, with a variable gas system. So what good reason do I have to even look at the MDR? Is there something I'm missing.

>>33177626
m-muh spacegun

>>33174213
Status update posted with video of comparison of obstructed bore test.

>>33177687
And once again OP is a cock mongling faggot.

>>33177626
Caliber conversions, SBR options, fewer gas block settings to muck about with, MLOK instead of proprietary nonsense holes, easier to lock the bolt open, probably more precise, better ergonomics (dual AR and Tavor style mag releases vice SA80 style on the M17, if nothing else), ...

>>33177117
Based Radom.

>>33177635
So the reality of it is that other than asthetics, the M17 pros beats out the MDR?

>>33175656
>>33175217
>I don't know the difference between a nut and a bolt
retard

>>33177687
https://deserttech.com/mdr-update.php

>>33177750
IMO, yes. It's a simple and proven design.

>>33177778
With what little info we have.

>>33177778
"simple and proven" in the sense that it's an extremely low-tech bullpup 5.56. The magwell is basically an AR-15 magwell exactly, whereas the MDR has an ambi mag release in the conventional location, something most bullpups don't offer. The ejection port is not lefty friendly and cannot be swapped, whereas the MDR has an almost F2000 approach to the ejection. It's also not available in .308, which is going to be in high demand with the MDR.

The M17 is extremely rough around the edges. The thing looks like a gunsmith student's senior thesis. There's way more going on with the MDR and it will probably be built better as well, considering DTA's reputation with their SRS rifles.

>>33175856
ACKSHUALLY trump officially became president like Jan 20th of this year.

and similarly, Sr. Dog became Secdef this year.

so he's 2/4 there

I want to believe with you OP. I've had my preorder from before you could even preorder on the website. It got pushed back to april but I don't mind so much because I just bout a 104FR and might buy an Obzor aswell this month, so this way I won't feel too bad about having to spend another 2k for the rifle and extra for the optic.

>>33175656
>I got REKT, so I have to pick on semantics to not hurt my pride

>>33177187
>I'd waste an additional $400
if you're worried about 400 bucks, you probably shouldn't be buying 4 digit guns.

>>33178494
Brexit is going to technically be triggered this year, the vote was just last year. As for European nationalism? Well we shall see during the French election this year.

3.5/4

>>33178673
Well it's not so much an issue as more just the reasoning. Why buy a $2500 gun when I can get the exact same thing for $1999 that just sounds like bad financial management to me.
Plus I'll add it's sinking an extra $400-500 on a rifle that's release date is about at predictable as a fart in the breeze.

>>33175834
That's wrong, see >>33175628, the handguard is only needs to be removed to remove the barrel. The lower can pivot down like an AR15 once the rear and mid captive pin are popped out.

>>33178026
K&M is making a m17s in .308
try and keep up

>>33179228
Someone also make an SKS bulpup mod that I am sure looks and works better than the m17s.

>>33179263
Well the fact is that they already have the 5.56 version available to the public. Now I haven't heard a single thing about this company which to me means it can't be that bad.

People on here jump on any opportunity to shit on bullpups, the fact that this has flown under the radar makes me think that there are very few issues with their platform. Which hopefully means the same will hold true for the .308.

Also the M17s also offers a 20 inch barrel for the .308, something MDR does not.

>>33179322
The K&M has flown under the radar because it's literally some guy in his garage.
The MDR will offer a 19-inch barrel for .308 and 5.56... eventually.

>>33179695
>Eventually
That's my issue

>>33179745
The .308 M17 isn't available yet, either. You'll be waiting either way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyjb7taxaK8

>>33177117
i think the conventional version of the MSBS looks nice, but their bullpup looks fugly as shit.

>>33179828
True but at least he has a semi automatic bullpup available to the market. Which is more than can be said by DT. And as anon said earlier it's just one guy in his garage.

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>>33177117
funny man :^)
radom is doing same thing as desterttech
sitting on their asses, pretending to be working while taking more money from investors
why all the cool rifles must be vaporware
at least 806 will be soon, fingerfucked FA one, not the lightest, but at least will be available and not a fucking mistake as 805

>>33182335
What is that gun?

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>>33182420
cz 806, mang

>>33182431
The bullpup

Ayyyy anyone wanna buy an RFB

>>33178494
>2/4
>not simplifying to 1/2
Degenerate.

>>33183037
Isn't the RFB really picky about which ammo it likes?

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So let me get this straight. The M17s is:
>The same length as the MDR
>Has a longer barrel 17.5 over 16
>Is lighter
>Has an adjustable trigger weight
>Uses a lot of AR parts already
>Is cheaper by nearly $500
>Already has a fully operational semiauto bullpup available
>Made by a guy in his garage

Why is the MDR so much better?

Other than the dumb rail system which I can happily overlook. I really cannot see why I would wait.

>>33174213
It hurt my soul to read that this morning. I really want the MDR to be my next raifu.

ONE DAY ANON

>>33174674
MDR weights 8.3 lbs(.308), pretty fucking light for a BR.

>>33183411
>Made by a guy in his garage with a box of scraps
That's not a selling point.

>>33183464
K&M are weighing in at 8.2 for a 16 inch barrel and 8.5 for 20 inch

>>33174646
nah
the real problem with the RFB is the same problem that all Kel-Tec guns (ecept their pistols) have
low production numbers and low availability

>>33183364
Gas system is minutely adjustable, so no.

>>33183468
He has been able to create a fully functioning rifle with variants which is more than desirable tech.

I'd say that's a testament to his ability.

>>33183468
People said the same thing about Ronnie Barrett.

>>33183411
it doesn't look as cool tho

>>33183570
But that's what I'm trying to wrap my head around. Like I really want to love the MDR but if it only comes down to "muh asthetics" then I don't know why I wouldn't just go with the M17S.

Is there a fundamental difference in the ability of the MDR over the M17?

>>33174213
Hahahahahahahaha
>People unironically are still waiting for the MDR
lmao
>People think desert tech isn't gonna jew them
elohel
>Expecting the promised product to be the final product
kekarooni

>>33183582
>Is there a fundamental difference in the ability of the MDR over the M17?
No, I would go with the M17S.

>>33183594
>People think desert tech isn't gonna jew them

But they're mormon, Desu

>>33183629
>But they're mormon
>Not believing in the mormon jew
Stay blue pilled bro. Mr. Browning may have fooled you with his firearm wizardry, but I'm still wary of the salt jews

>>33183582
>M17S
Whats the fundamental difference between a Porsche and a Beetle?

>>33183658
very little
they're both made in the same plant in Slovakia anyway

>>33183658
But it's not because apart from the asthetics, its capabilities are the same.

>>33174646
>The MDR is heavy, held together with a buch of screws
Ftfy family

Also the rfb is picky about which beat to fuck surplus mags it feeds from that retards buy for some reason for their expensive meme gun

>>33183668
My GT4 was assembled in Zuffenhausen you cunt.

Stay poor.

>>33183776
I think it's more like a BMW and a Mercedes, both are good however one is a little more flash than the other one and costs more.

>>33182462
MSBS, polish rifle available in 2 version, normal and bullpup

>>33183698
>Surplus mags from 3rd world countries that have decades of use may not be the most reliable
Who would ever imagine that?