sr72 still flying?

>>33157648
Do you wanna get V&n?

Because this is how you get v&n.

>>33157670
>tfw sent to Guantanamo for blowing a government project's cover on a Mongolian throat singing forum

>>33157648
I think they have better shit now broskie.

>>33157685
>speed record
>never broken
im not a nostalgia fag but i dont think anything from recent years have come close to beating the sr71

>>33157695
by 1988 we could do lightspeed or better. FACT

It probably flew a bit longer than the official date to aid development of replacement.
Some seem to think that replacement was a carrier for an X-37 precursor, and it looked something like an XB-70.
Consensus seems to be that is no longer flying.
I think they are too busy spooking people with triangles now. I don't know if that has a similar role or what.

>>33157807
there's something out there making sonic booms over bong-land and doing high mach over the states. there was a shitload of speculation on mill photos.net including some long ass zoom lens shots of it

>>33157685
Yeah, it's called a satellite.

>>33157648
It would take a miracle to get those old birds flying again, honestly. IIRC, all the tooling was destroyed, so that means no parts for the planes. At least, none officially.

Sadly, I think the SR-71 is on the same tier of Never Ever as the YF-23. God I wish the YF-23 won over the Raptor.

>>33157910

Shutup homo gay. Sats are for fags.

>>33157894
There was also that thing that turned on its transponder at angles 50 & mach 4 over the Russians in Syria a few months ago. I would be very surprised if there is not a successor flying.

>>33157894
was that the triangle daytime shot by steve douglass?

>>33157984
Some people reckon they secretly took on the YF-23 because it was still bretty gud - like how the YF-17 lost but became the F/A-18.
Interesting, but not as convincing as other ideas out there.

>>33157910
Satellites don't reposition very well though. Also, limited time in station.

>>33157771
>by 1988 we could do lightspeed or better. FACT
False, It's speed record was never broken.
>NEVER

pretty sure they have a hypersonic drone version modified with what they learned from the sr-71 program, that never lands.

I have corkey bell's book "the untouchables". the engines were getting MORE efficient as it climbed above mach 3.4 (declassified "top" speed)

>>33157648
The military most likely has a high-speed drone as of right now.
Kinda like the stealth helicopters, The public's not going to know for a long time

>>33157648
>could it still be flying?
It could if there was someone brave/dumb enough to actually put himself into this pile of junk and get it into the air. 40% crash rate ain't a joke.

>>33158036
That's why there's a lot of them, some in geostationary orbit.

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>>33158205
The only thing that's really been "leaked" about stealth technology so far is that the F-117A's, or at least a few of them were kept out of mothball status and used as test beds for detection and development of new stealth and radar absorbing materials. I don't think the SR71 is being used in any capacity except a theoretical/aerodynamic one that can easily be simulated on computers. They're too intensive maintenance/support wise to fly any more if there are any still actually operational, and I'm sure the tooling to make them or replacement parts for them is long gone or mothballed somewhere.

>>33157648
Why not convert it as private jet? New York London in 2 hours or less, don't tell me there's no on interested.

>>33157648
I'd sure like to see sources for the claim that the fuel is being bought and the tankers are being flown.

What the hell would they gain from still using them? Against low tech enemies you could fly a sigint C-130 and against high tech enemies the SR-72 is unsurvivable with the advances in missile and fighter technology

>>33158363
>and I'm sure the tooling to make them or replacement parts for them is long gone or mothballed somewhere.

Like the tooling for the F-22, it's been sold as scrap metal to China. Not even kidding.

>>33157648
RQ-180

>>33157894
>there was a shitload of speculation on mill photos.net including some long ass zoom lens shots of it

SAUCE

>>33158011
>thing that turned on its transponder at angles 50 & mach 4 over the Russians in Syria a few months ago.

SAUCE

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>>33158011
Could be anything at this point, even the ruskies themselves. They had the Foxbat flying Mach 3 in the early 70s over Egypt. Granted the plane ate its enignes at that speed, but that was 50 years ago.

>>33158886
I have a few old f22 tools at my work.
They are prices of shit.
Most of the tooling was misplaced, not scrapped however.

>>33158036
the latest KH-11 variant weighs close to 5000 kg, and plasma thrusters only get better.

>>33158045
Someone said the engines were capable of mach 5, but the airframe would disintegrate above mach 3.7-8

>>33159054
Almost as shit as your sentence structure, is English your third language or something

>>33157894
So the triangle UFOs are real?

>>33159054
Like what?

>>33159054
Pics or GTFO.

>>33159089
5 billion dollars a piece too.

>>33157648
if im not mistaken NASA bought one as an experimental test bed and still flies it.

>>33158363
I hear they are going to be used for OPFOR. We need to learn to fight stealth planes soon

jp7 fuel is used for u2 also and maybe anything that needs low vapor pressure and low radar/ir signature

>>33159182
I think he's referring to the more viable triangles as we understand avionic today; b2 and it's successor(s)

>>33157648
>i mean, its special fuel is still being bought in bulk by the air force, and its special refueler flies out at the same time every day, but no one knows why?

Why should they know why? SR is obsolete. Flight is not obsolete. Meatbags in cockpits are close to obsolete. Remote manned high performance airframes exist.

Tards think aircraft development stopped at SR. KYS.

>>33159194
That would be a violation of current ITAR requirements.

I weld and assemble the afterburners for both the f22 and F35.

I can't explain in detail, how shitty the f22 tooling is; but take my word for it.

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>>33159344
>That would be a violation of current ITAR requirements.
>I weld and assemble the afterburners for both the f22 and F35.
...Apologies for the antagonism. Keep up the good work.
>exit stage right

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>>33157648
really makes you think

>>33159132
Not true at all.

SR-71 was limited by the compressor inlet temperature which had a never exceed temperature of 450c, and was limited to no more than 1hr above 427c.

For normal operations, this meant a maximum speed of Mach 3.2, and an emergency sprint of Mach 3.3+, to no more than Mach 3.5 (with high risk of engine failure).

>>33159482
yeah love that site.
>>33159182
if you ignore the ayylmao crap there are tonnes of sighting reports in the texas/sc/nc area of triangles/lights in a triangle formation.
The problem is people derail any analysis with alium shit or dont connect the dots. Definitely something being flown at the moment, though.

>>33157648
No. No one makes JP7 anymore, nor do they make tires, or a litany of other special 1-off parts that build this plane. All airframes are accounted for, and all tooling to build new ones was destroyed.

It's gone OP. No more booms.

Actually the Waverider uses JP7, but yeah, all the other specialty stuff is gone.

I was talking to a customer at work whos son flys U2's out of beale and she said he was gone for days at a time doing stuff. A few months later they came out and saif they were flying sorties again on a plane retired before the SR-71. So i would for sure not be surprised if the government was flying sorties on their remaning SR-71 air frames.

>>33159482
Why the fuck do they all have some dumb ass nickname and why in the everloving fuck do they insist on having it included inside their real name !!??

Fucking retards i wouldnt trust these idiots to go on a beer run. Fucking hippy crap

>>33160328

the U2 isn't even transonic, it doesn't experience nearly the same kind of airframe stress that an SR-71 would. For that matter, they still use B-52s and C-130s that are older than the SR-71

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>>33158960
i think this is the one he's talking about

not heard about the mach 4 thing before though, someone probably just slipped a bit more vodka into a tu-95 tank

>>33162285
looks like a turd with wings

>>33159132
Mach 3.6 was the limit of the inlet spike to maintain proper airflow.

>>33162468
Perfect shape for atmospheric re-entry.

>>33162468
that turd with wings can see you fapping to hentai from LEO

>>33159279
Yup. Essentially the F117 is being used as a "baseline" stealth platform for detection performance when they're testing out new hardware, particularly new Radars and Sensors for planes and whatnot

>>33165183
http://intercepts.defensenews.com/2014/11/we-now-know-why-the-f-117-is-still-flying/

>>33158808
>Trump landing at speeches in a golden Blackbird
Rad

>>33159834
>>33157984
lime the OP suggested, its likely that the air-frames we know about aren't all of them, and the tooling is still being used in secret. they've done some sneaky shit to make sure that no one knew how many they had, its likely they had more and didn't tell anyone for this reason. also the air frame was made out of titanium, and that aint gonna succumb to metal fatigue so quickly
>>33158243
merely a cover up, they say they were lost/destroyed but they were actually used to make something else
>>33157894
okay im convinced. its still flying
>>33158863
read the OP, they had a project to turn them into bombers but it was scraped because the sr71 wasnt a secret anymore

>>33159894
its bought in bulk constantly, and the U2 fleet dosnt need near that much. and they probably just make the tires in secret

>>33159482
Looks like pandora from bottom

>>33165387
it's probably cheaper and easier to build a new plane than keep the sr-71 flying

>>33165407
>pandora

what did he mean by this

>>33157984
>IIRC, all the tooling was destroyed, so that means no parts for the planes. At least, none officially.
What is the point of destroying the ability to build/repair them?

>>33165423
>it is cheaper to make a new, fully titanium air-frame, with engines that live up to and surpass the sr71 engines
fuck off

>>33159000
This looks like a damned punk album cover.

>>33165446
weapons grade autism. would be much better to keep the tooling and blueprints locked away in a vault for possible future use than just scrap or destroy them

>>33165487
>keeping a mach 3.2+ 1950s tech plane flying in secret long after all the extremely specialised tooling was destroyed is a realistic theory

>>33158886
>>33159054

The tooling for the F-22 was preserved and stored in large shipping containers, as well as all of the production documentation. They're all being stored at Sierra Army Depot.

>>33165524
They even destroy the blueprints? You gotta be shitting me. That's like destroying a piece of history.

>>33165575
the SR-71 tooling was destroyed, not F-22

to the other anons:
>what is Soviet espionage

>>33165423
Declassified govt. "Pandora project"
People were spotting triangles over texas(Area 51)
Govt denied it until project was leaked, and they just declassified it
Biggest miracle of aerodynamics

>>33157695
The main reason the SR-71 was retired was the development of spy satellites. Once the Corona missions became viable sources of information, there
was basically no reason to fly spy planes, because Corona could make more passes over the USSR, didn't require mid-air refueling or ground maintanance, was much, much harder to detect and shoot down, and, in the off chance the Reds *did* shoot it down, it had no pilot that could be killed/captured (like Francis Gary Powers), and the film bucket would likely be destroyed anyway.

So yeah, the speed record still stands as unbroken (by airbreathing aircraft), for espionage and intelligence gathering, we do have something better.

>>33165607
They were specifically talking about F-22 tooling being scrapped or destroyed

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-fighter-usa-lockheed-idUSTRE7BC09T20111213

>>33165552
it wouldnt be the first time theyve done shit like this. remember how MK ultra came to light?

>>33157695
>>33157695
>anything of unclassified status from recent years have come close to beating the sr71

fixed

>>33165633
once again, read the OP. he said they had a project to convert them into supersonic bombers but it was scrapped because the sr71 wasnt a secret anymore. and right after that the sr71 was conveniently retired afterwards

>>33165618
source

>>33165637
see >>33157984

>>33165649
>comparing a psyop to keeping a 1950s mach 3 plane flying

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>>33165684
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP63-00313A000500130053-5.pdf

>>33165576
yep. its fucking retarded from a military stand point too, lets say you need to go back and revive a plane because its replacement has an overlooked flaw that would be cheaper to get a previous plane flying, but youre shit out of luck because you melted down the tools and burned the blueprints.

>>33165716
but none of those planes could carry a large (potentially nuclear) payload at supersonic speed
>>33165694
im saying that the government can keep a lot of shit secret if they wanted too

>>33159000
I just noticed their suits have smiley faces on their tummies, that is all

>>33157695
The ghoul.

>THIS is how you get v&

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>>33165618
>Texas (area 51)
Wrong state brah.

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>>33165779
what if theyre flying together, as some kind of supersonic bomber/escort team

>>33157681
https://www.vice.com/en_dk/article/australian-whistleblower-leaks-spy-documents-to-4chan-4chan-dismisses-them-as-gay

>>33165618
What?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_harassment#Pandora_Project_and_other_research

Nasa uses some for experiments thats it, modern MIG's and SU's can intercept them directly.

>>33165684
Yeah, I'm not arguing against that, I'm pointing out that speed isn't necessarily the only factor with planes like this. Just because it's fast and cool doesn't mean we should keep using it over a more economical alternative.

i don't know that it makes sense for 30 years to develop fast moving bombers, when you can simply apply the technology to the missile itself.

there is a line, when a pilot's necessity becomes marginal, because at some speed, to keep an aircraft stable in that low oxygen altitude requires computer control, a pilot simply adds weight and an emergency backup for manual control (makes no sense). if you've lost the aircraft at mach40, there's not much difference in losing at mach30... a computer will still be a better recovery mechanism because the pilot is fucking dead

the only piloted aircraft at the r and d level would be to push the limit- the song- and that's true for usa, china, russia etc, because you want that data. secret aircraft are cool, but the idea's they bring out are why they pay it back

>>33165521
The 70s were a more stylish time.

>>33165925
Yes, they used planes which could somehow hover to do their stuff
It's not that hard to think through

>>33157695
except a satellite

>>33157670
You give 4chan a little too much value, and take your tinfoil hat off

>>33157648
>>33157807
>>33157894
>>33158011

There are a bunch of very real, very not "black triangle"-like platforms that replaced the A-12 and the SR-71, and some of them very likely burned or still burn JP-7. A couple burn/burned stuff that is considerably more exotic.

>>33157910
The KH-11 was only one of them.

>>33166239
I don't think rockets count. Otherwise the Saturn V would have every speed record ever.

>>33165827
The ghoul is/was a compromise multi-role aircraft with modular "pods" that can be changed depending on the mission.

Or so the story goes.

>>33166498
Anywhere I can read about the Ghoul?

>>33166521
The toilet paper after a good wipe, because that's the kind of story that the "ghoul" is.

>>33165866
Sounds about right.

>>33157681
>Mongolian throat singing forum

I'm fucking dying

>>33166521
Not legally, no.

Most speculation and discussion is /x/ territory.

Somebody supposedly leaked documents but I couldn't find any.

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>>33166498
There was a /pol/ thread about a plane crash the next day that some dude claimed was a ghoul the day before.

>>33167450
Can you tell me more about this? I've never heard of the ghoul before, is this a plane or some /x/ tier ghost story? Or both?

>>33168323
this

>>33166257
>4chan a little too much value
>4chan a little too much value
>4chan a little too much value

https://youtu.be/HQoRXhS7vlU

No. However NASA does own an A-12 (a training variant) that can be used for "aeronautical research" but is pretty much collecting dust as of last year.

No they are not still actively flying, Knowing the guys that actively work the last T-model stratotankers (only tankers that will refuel them) they haven't seen anything like that, and what KC-135T are still left for longterm service (aka not getting scraped) are slated to become R-models during their next Depot or Block 45 upgrade (which ever comes first).

Which is basically replacing the #2 valve with the manifold and #7 refueling valve of a KC135R (meaning the body tanks are no longer isolated from the engine manifold).

SR71 is dead guys. It's completely useless with satellite surveillance.

Edit; I realized I claimed JP-4 when i mean JP-7.
Also of note, those aircraft are slated to go in for upgrade/depot anytime between now and 2022.

>>33166521
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TR-3_Black_Manta

all i can find.

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>>33168323

http://yuki.la/pol/61056155

also an archived pol thread about it, but, you know.....

>>33169548
sounds like a LARPfag

>>33157910
its really fkn expensive to put one up there... idk which costs more, probably in the long run the satelite is cheaper but in the short run the plane i belive

>>33170149
communication companies put them up all the fucking time, and iur gov has been putting them up even longer in Low orbit. There are thousands of satellites in low orbit today.

What do you think polar orbits are for? For putting up satellites that you dont want to be seen being delivered

>>33169429
The idea isn't surveillance, it's the concept of diverting it into an interceptor that can go anywhere in the world at supersonic speeds and remain undetected. Also it is likely that they have a team of tankers that operate in secret

>>33166498
Can it carry a nuke? Because if the sr71 would still be in use, that might be what it's used for, and the ghoul being flown as an escort that jams any radar or satellite that could see them

>>33159000

>Take maybe the most badass picture of the century
>You stand like a little anime girl

>>33166009
One word: stealth
You can detect a missile, meanwhile the only reason people knew the sr71 existed was because we told them it did

>>33172060
To me it looks like someone just broke in and they're confused why they're there

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>>33172060

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>>33172066
there are at least 5 documented missile launches at them while in active service
it was anything but stealthy

>>33172066
>stealth missiles don't exist.

You're really fucking ignorant, and gave apparently made no effort to learn any information that doesn't directly support your idea.

You are a willful retard who lacks any critical thinking capability at all.

>>33157670
>v&n
>vandn
anon pls

>>33157771
does that mean we can talk to the ayyyy senpai?

>>33169429
Then why did they bring it back for a little bit after satellites were released?

Seriously though satellites were burning through all their fuel too quickly having to constantly reposition themselves. The only reason we would permanantly retire them is if we have a new system that could fill the same role but not burn through satellites as quickly. Something like the Air Force's drone they had sitting up in low orbit for a while.

>>33165866
Typical.

>>33158850
Ive only seen sources showing the AF running SR-71 engines at full burner just to use up the last if the stockpiles, so id put a bit "citation needed" on that one as well.

>>33172066
You do know they lobbed SAM's and Mig's after them for 20 years, right?

>>33172550
Yeah. And it didn't work

>>33172295
Do you have a single fact to back that up?

>>33172777
>I literally don't know how stealth works or what does it even mean but I will still argue and move the goalposts because I'm autistic

(You)

>>33172777
An A-12 was damaged over Vietnam and countless interceptions were made against the SR-71, though none of them were successful.

They weren't that stealthy, compared to our other aircraft.

>>33172809
AGM-129

AGM-158

>>33159824
do you think they are deliberately spreading the ayy theory to discredit any serious investigation into black triangles?

>>33158011

>There was also that thing that turned on its transponder at angles 50 & mach 4 over the Russians in Syria a few months ago.
This is /sg/ bullshit from /pol/. I don't even have to check.

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>>33159171
Not same guy but
>a single lolmobileuser mistake
>plus a namefag's utter lack of reading comprehension
>equals a generic insult about the former's skill in the English language

Honestly, why haven't we gassed all the namefags yet

>>33173094
We have reached a new meta

>>33157670
>v&n

>>33171855
Tankers...
In secret....

Only T models and Guccis could refuel those things and Guccis are unreliable as fuck.

If a T model was refueling that shit. It would be known in the crew chief world. Tankers is an extremely small world, we end up in all the same places. Especially since refueling it would require dumping the fwd aft and upper deck of JP8, putting on a nonflyable load config so the thing doesnt sit on its ass. That several J12 trucks worth of fuel being brought over since you cant use the pit.

We have maybe 20 T models left? Its hard to keep track right now because another rotation of aircraft for blk45 upgrades and boneyard status is going on.

>>33173094
yes. info like this has been declassified

it's so when people see a """ufo""" they think dude ayyyys lmao instead of 'secret government project'. and the people who report them seem lack wacky lunatics too