Rate my mosin /k/

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Also has the gold finishes on the barrel too, pretty cool.

>>33153955
Brass. Rearsenal.

>>33153891
You over paid a bit (assuming you're an American in a free state). Nothing particularly rare or special about it, but it's a fun gun.

>>33154033
Ahhh okay. Yeah maybe a bit overpriced but it's fun as hell to shoot. Thanks for the feedback

>>33153955
oh I have one like that

>>33153891
1941/1942 russia wasnt manufacturing up to spec due to war reasons... Also if brass then not entirely original/matching.

Even with the higher prices of today it looks like you overpaid for onebof the shittier russian versions. Is it tula or izh?

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>>33154118
It's izh. The bolt, receiver, and magazine release have the same serial number. The only thing is that the bolt has a serial number crossed out

Brass barrel bands on Mosins are only original parts before the year 1938 (IIRC). What you have there is a rifle whose barrel bands have had the bluing worn off. The Rooskies would generally paint over it with a brassy shellac.

The finish on the stock is probably not there because it's a midwar rifle or because someone fucked it in the storing process, or most likely someone here in the states messed with it, considering the finish on the bolt is fucked too.

My first mosin was just like it, but with the normal finish on everything. You did pay $150 too much though.

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>$350 for a 1942 Izzy
You got Jewed, kid.

>>33154210
Ok so there's a gunshow this weekend, and I was looking to buy a Mosin. What IS a good price?

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>>33154229
I got mine for just over $200

>>33154229
Depends on a lot of things, but if you want one like in the OP, $250-$280 is a fair price these days.

>>33154203
Oh well. I saw a mosin and thought why the hell not. Least I know next to what to look for now . Guess this was a learning experience to do a little more research before I buy.

>>33154229
As someone who bought them during the height of surplus I really can't say more than 120 is a good price for on,e but given prices right now 200-230 is on the low end of what I see.

>>33154264
Don't worry about it. It's an extra $50-$100. In a few years the price you paid Will be a bargain.

>>33153891
>>33153913
>>33153955
>>33154171
Is there an SA on the receiver by any chance? The blued bolt is indicative of a German captured and refinished one and most of those were given to the Finns.

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How did I do /k/. I payed over most likely but, the damn thing was so smooth.

>Polish M44 Carbine
>325

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>>33153891
Price is OBO on this thing, he wants $300. I'm going to offer $260, hopefully that doesn't make me a Jew.

https://www.armslist.com/posts/6438502/charleston-south-carolina-rifles-for-sale--1937-mosin-spanish-civil-war-rifle

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>>33154590
Holy fuck

>>33154727
Well in that case OP you did just fine price wise.

>>33154590
>>33154727
Mystery solved. OP has a neat artifact.

>>33153891
14 out of 35 gallons of cosmoline

>>33153891
Got a Finnish cleaning rod too.

>>33154793
I was wondering why it wouldn't fit in my mosin

>>33154258
Got mine for just under. Much more and I'd probably be facing buyer's remorse, but I was 17 and it was the first gun I looked forward to purchasing. Probably will never sell it.

>>33154727
Take a picture of the bottom of your rifle's stock. If it's got these weird interlocking finger joints your stock may be Finnish too.

I have one almost identical to yours OP, thanks for posting this, I was starting to think mine was a rarity. Price wasn't great, I bought mine for 250 a month ago in similar condition.

Odds are yours is a rifle captured by the Germans and then sold to the Finns. If it's mostly matching it probably meant the rifle was fine as is and the Finns just threw it back in.

Check your bolt by the way and inspect the symbols on it, as well as other small parts like your barrel bands. Odds are most won't match which would indicate that some resourceful Finn cobbled your rifle together out of the best parts he could find. The bolts especially tend to have a lot of odd and end parts. One of my Finn captures has parts from 4 different companies, some Finnish, some Russian. I believe it even had two different Izzy parts, indicating that one was from an older rifle than the other part.

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>>33154935
There are definitely some wierd things about it. The butt stock of the gun has numbers crossed out. The receiver has the serial number starting with ZHV and has a wierd symbol as well as the magazine release. Will post pics

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>>33155328
2

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>>33155357
3

>>33155328
The ZHV was applied by the importer. It's the translation of the Cyrillic ЖB because of silly ATF importation rules. What weird symbol are you referring to?

>>33155390
The Cyrillic one, not really sure what it was. Thanks

>>33155328
stock being crossed out is normal, Finns usually cobbled these things together from the best parts they had. These rifles are the epitome of polishing a turd, although Mosins really aren't that bad rifles, the Finns did some pretty impressive stuff with them.

>>33155384
Might be the old serial number or something? The main two Finn companies are Sako (would be a gear looking symbol) and VKT. That doesn't really look like either.

Take your bolt out and inspect it

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>>33153891
this nigga pays 350 for the most common mosin out there and I can't sell this thing for $300. I hate my state. PS it's rare-ish.

If >>33154258 is >>33154210 you got jewed too paying over $100 for a bubba job.

>>33154727
Oh fuck you OP I should have known something was going on based on that stock. You fooled me good. Especially on a late date capture like that, very uncommon. Worth at least what you paid, maybe more. MAYBE.

>>33155449
>I can't sell this thing for $300. I hate my state. PS it's rare-ish.

>$300

Ughghghgghghghhhhh

I want one of those. What's special about it?

>>33155449
What state?

>>33155449

>selling guns

I bet you're one of those assholes that sells his old phones or watches too. My dad passed his things to me, and I will be sure to pass them to my offspring soon enough.

>>33155434
>These rifles are the epitome of polishing a turd
Clearly doesn't know how non-refurbs work.
>The main two Finn companies are Sako (would be a gear looking symbol) and VKT. That doesn't really look like either.
That's because this rifle is neither.
>>33155449
>Finn captured/rebuild
>most common

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>>33155512
This.
>>33155512
Wisconsin. Milsurp market here sucks, only people in it are flippers and people who already own 2 of everything. Most of the time people want way too much for the rifle and even when it's a good price it can sit there for months because it's not low enough to flip.

>>33155434
Couldn't find anything on the bolt. Quite odd, is 42 late in the war for captured mosins?

>>33155558
Nothing wrong with selling guns. I used to own 11 mosins, down to 6, looking to get to 4. Moved to a small apartment and don't have room. Easy come, easy go.
>>33155585
Admitted I was wrong >>33155484

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>>33155512
>I want one of those. What's special about it?
>>33155606
>Wisconsin.

TELL ME ABOUT IT RIGHT NOW AND WHERE YOU ARE AND WE'LL SEE IF IT ADDS UP TO A MISSISSIPPI CROSSING.

>>33155558
They always get sold at one time or another.

>>33155619
Continuation war was from 1941-1944. Most of the captures are 1940 and earlier, seeing as the Soviet troops didn't have the newest guns. I have a 1928 dragoon (not updated to 91/30) that was captured during the Continuation War. So 1942 is uncommon, 1943 is uncommon, 1944 is downright rare.

>>33155619
>is 42 late in the war for captured mosins?
Sort-of, but not for the ones that came to Finland via Germany. The Finnish front had more-or-less stabilized by 1942, so you see far fewer '43 and '44-dated Finn captures.

>>33155651
Not even close to the border m8, I'm near Milwaukee.

>>33155585
I know it's a captured 91/30, which even there the Finns would usually improve before they throw them back out. I know this because my Finn "capture" has various parts on it that show it was rebuilt to a degree by the Finns. You can tell it got rebuilt because he said his bolt had the numbers crossed out, which implies it was force matched. >>33154171


Obviously it's not to the degree of an M39, but for a regular old 91/30 without Finn space magic added on that's about as good as that rifle will get. I should've clarified a bit there, that's my bad.

>>33155619
Kind of rare, later it gets the less likely it would be. One of the rare examples where the older the rifle's receiver is the more common it's likely to be, at least till you get to the 20's.

Are you sure there's no symbols on the bolt whatsoever? Have you actually taken it out of the rifle? Not cycled back, actually out of the rifle. Most of the symbols can't be seen unless you take it out.

>>33155710
Just because the Finns tinkered with it doesn't mean when they came out of the Soviet Arsenal they were horribly bad guns. Again, get a non-refurb and you'll understand that retarded "garbage rod" meme is undeserved. Or not, because I rather the prices stay low.

Fucking idiots you know you can order these by the crate for $1000 right? Or just check your local hardware store, got my Polish m44 for 69.95

>>33154642
You did over pay. That is not a polish stock. As far as I know all polish m44s had the pressed in escutcheons, that looks like a mid war m44 stock that's been refinished. Sorry m8, but unless I'm wrong, you payed double what it's worth.

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>>33155606
Your telling me I just went to the barron gun show and all that was there was surplus were 4 damn rifles, le common 91/30, rusted carcano, rechambered 308 MAS-36 and an ugly Hakim that almost took my damn hand off. Bonus the guy was also selling an AR-180 with visible rust for $1500!

>>33155778
>you know you can order these by the crate for $1000 right?
Yeah, for Soviet refurbs and that was 5 years ago, Marty.

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>>33155673
>Literally no effort to try and sell me on it

You deserve to be stuck with it DESU. I've been wanting an M44 for two years. I've never seen any on sale here in MN since Fleet Farm sold off their last Chinese ones.

Even my 91/30 is once of the last I found on sale in my area. I didn't see another until I went to a Cabela's on the north side of the Twin Cities.

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>>33154727
Is there a 41 stamp anywhere on the rifle? Continuation War captures often were stamped with a 41. It may be below the woodline. Mine looks like this

>>33155821
Nigga I'm not driving minimum 3 hours to sell a $300 rifle.

>>33155765
Again, I used a bad choice of words.

No, not every Mosin was a piece of crap when it rolled off the assembly line, and no, not every Finn rifle is a work of art.

BUT AS A WHOLE, Finn rifles, including reworked 91/30's, tend to have more effort put into fit and finish. It also doesn't help that most original Soviet rifles you see have been used a hell of a lot more than the Finn rifles and tend to be rougher on wear.

Happy?

>>33155847
I was going to come to you but w/e. I'd rather throw money at an FNP-45 anyway.

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>>33155710
There are some marks but they look insignificant

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>>33155821
>since Fleet Farm sold off their last Chinese ones.
>tfw you drove to Winona just so you could say you bought a Mosin for <$100.

>>33155864
Wouldn't be legal that way. Has to go through an ffl in your state. Unless you have a C&R.

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>>33155710
Other one

>>33155886
>Wouldn't be legal that way.

Uh... What? Are you stupid?

>>33155876
Local gun shop has one of these for $265. Just a year and a half ago they had them for $150. I didn't pick one up because I already had an m44, now I regret it.

>>33155902
You have to go through an FFL if you sell to someone in another state, even private sale.

>>33155908

Ye, I can't count how many times I passed up a T53 while looking for >>33155821

Then when I wanted a T53/M44, there were none.

>>33155902
Since when is it legal to transfer a firearm to someone from another state without going through an FFL or having a C&R?

>>33155825
Possibly, but I don't feel like taking apart my mosin again today, already finished cleaning it.

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>>33155922
if you haven't seen one by now you don't have one. My rifle is similar to yours and it doesn't have a 41 either. Odds are it's a German capture sold to the Finns. Would make sense since mine is also matching except for the stock which is crossed out.

This would also explained why the bolt was blued

>>33154693
>https://www.armslist.com/posts/6438502/charleston-south-carolina-rifles-for-sale--1937-mosin-spanish-civil-war-rifle
Not a bad price. If you could get it for that $260 I would say that is a good deal.

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>>33155908
>now I regret it.
IDK; there's nothing it does that an M44 doesn't. I didn't have an M44 before and probably never will have one, now. Unless I get it for stupid cheap like the T53.

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>>33155993
>it's the nigga with the snow M27

I just regret not grabbing one for that price. I mean, for so cheap even having the m44 already, it would have been worth getting. I regretted it more when I was on a mission to get every mosin type out there, but now I've decided to just keep the ones I really really like.

>>33155921
Huh, I actually didn't know that.

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Brass tabs are god tier

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Posting in an [SA] mosin thread

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>>33158211
Do they all have a ridiculous amount of stamps on them?

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>>33158216
Because mine is fucking *covered* with shit

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>>33158221
I swear I find more every time I look at it

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>>33158216
mine is surprisingly clean, no idea why

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>>33158225
>>33158226
Weird. The bolt is extra crazy

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>>33158228
Like, what are these lil fuckers doing down here?

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>>33158216
Most of them are stamped to hell. Even my stock is covered in them

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>>33158235
And what the fuck is this all about?

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>>33158241
Bonus plum

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>>33158245
Oh right, MORE BOLT STAMPS.

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>>33158251
I'm not sure if Bubba took a belt sander to mine or if it was already like this, but it does feel super smooth and this cartouche is no longer legible...

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>>33158256
Anyway, that's all I have for pics. All I know about this thing is that it made it to Finland when I bought it. Now I guess it looks like it was a German-capture sent to the Finns like OP's? Neat. I paid about the same price for it, too (600 for this one and a Yugo-capture 98k).

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>>33158269
Oh, I forgot to mention it also has a super old sling on it.
What does /k/ think of my [SA] mosin?

What is the going rate for a M38 in good condition?

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>>33158256
mine has one of those little circles too. It's at the gunsmith or I would take a picture.

Odds are it was a unit ID disc, the Finns used them at certain points but removed them after they realized it was a great bit of Intel for the Russians to figure out troop movements.

The smaller circle may be a Sako logo, kind of hard to tell with the photo. I know my 91/30 has a shiney stock and it's cartouche is smooth as well, almost identical (down to the fact that only the bottom half of it remains) its probably coincidence and just bubba J's work. I've not heard anything about Finns refinishing these rifles. Then again mine has these weird chips and grooves on various spots in the rifle that appear to have been from use in the field. Could've just been some guy that hunted with it, but rifle seems awfully nice for that to be the story.

Then again I'm not an expert, could be wrong.

Finnish rifle history is crazy to read about and each rifle is almost unique thanks to all the parts and hand fitting they did. It's not unheard of to even find American or French mosin parts on them. Just look at mosin markings on 7.62x54r.net and you'll see all kinds of stuff people have found.

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>>33158299
few pics of mine while I'm at it before I go to bed because fuck it, mosin time.

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>>33158299
It's actually kinda matte. It feels like bare wood, too. I dunno.

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>>33158316
yours may be original then. I'm almost certain mine was refinished

>>33158319
Really? I just fondled it again and while maybe not *bare* it definitely feels "softer" than my other milsurps (Garand, T99, 98k). I thought that meant it was sanded like >>33154210 that one.
Did the Finns just use a really light oil sometimes or something?

>>33153891
I paid that much for a 38 tula ex-sniper, and I live in aus.
Lmao

>>33158408
I paid about 300 for a 42 Izzy, with accessories and matching bayonet, but it also came with 180 rounds of mils steel code surplus ammo, which goes for 50-60 cpr. So, backing out the ammo, I paid about 210.

>$350 for a fucking Mosin

I see that yet another retard fell for the /k/ memes. If you had simply bothered to look at what kind of rifles you can actually buy for $350 today, you would have been able to recognize why your purchase was an extremely bad decision.

>>33158432
>prices are affected by supply and demand

It's shocking I know, but it's true.

>>33158432
Some people own multiple guns or even collect them, Anon.

>>33158446
>some people cope with heroine

spoken like a real baby

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>>33154590
I knew the second I saw this it was a Finnish capture.
Looks just like mine.

Don't listen to these faggots OP, you got a decent deal.

>pic related is my 1934 Tula Finn Captured

>>33158441
Not the point. There is zero reason to buy a shoddily made Soviet-era surplus rifle in 2017 when it's going for as much or more than a new production rifle that will shoot 1 MOA out of the box.

>but muh history!

Mosins were made by the millions. If you had one that had a verified historical pedigree (ie who carried it, in what campaigns was it used, etc), that is indeed cool. But buying a materially inferior anonymous gun for its "history" when you don't even know what that history even is? I can't believe there are people who spout that shit and don't even realize how fucking dumb they sound.

>>33158472
Counterpoint: I like the mosin

>>33158472
>stop liking what I don't like

calm your autism.

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I finally found a proper 02 stock for my hungry carbine.
it is fucking beautiful.
now to fix the bolt handle and plug a couple holes
hungarian mosins are pole level quality btw

>>33158245
Plum indicates a Finnish extractor. Whatever heat treating process they used did that.

>>33158256
Certainly looks like Bubba got to it, since it's so light. Usually stocks are darkened from cosmoline soaking in.
>>33158274
I think it would be pretty good if Bubba hadn't got to it.
>>33158299
Odds are it's NOT a unit disk. They were phased out early on. If it had a disk it would be a much deeper crater in the wood. It is probably a sanded down USSR cartouche. Finns did refinish stocks.
>>33158343
What the Finns actually used to finish their stocks is a topic of hot debate. There's at least one very lengthy thread on gunboards of people trying to figure out what it is.
>>33158408
>you in charge of reading the thread
>>33158432
>>33158472
>MUH GORILLIONS
stop embarrassing yourself
>>33158536
I hope that's shopped.

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>>33158631
It isnt.

>>33158719
STOP IT

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>>33158292
$350-$450.
>>33158472
Just wait till they go for $500+ in a few years. Oh wait, that's already happening.

>>33158967
>all original
That bluing looks too good

That is kick ass op. Grab one of those 440 round spam cans and go to town. Just make sure you clean the shit out of it when your done. Love my polish m44

>>33158472
Some people enjoy collecting milsurp rifles, some don't. It's fine if you don't care for mosins, but don't shit on other people for buying what you don't like.

>>33154642
you paid too much, but Polish guns also fetch higher prices than the rest of Mosin's these days. FWIW I got an all numbers matching Polish M44 with a refinished stock for $300 a few years ago. It's also in a lot better shape than yours. Polish Mosin's are on par with (and sometimes even better than) Finn Mosin's.

>>33158991
I disagree; note the bright wear spots on the contours of the receiver, barrel, and rear sight.

>>33153891
Moisn/10

>>33159775
You're probably right. Would like to see more pictures, though.

>>33158026
This is one of the nicest looking mosin's I've seen. MMMMMMMMMMMMMM

Why have Mosins gone over $300 now? They were cool when they were $59.99 a few years ago but you can get Mausers for $300.

>>33160584
>Why have Mosins gone over $300 now?

Supply and demand.

>>33160584
Mausers are ugly as fuck, though.

>>33160653
But they made 600 gorrilian!!!!!

>>33160584
people kept buying them and chopping them up assuming the rifles would be around forever, just like every other surplus firearm there's ever been.

They will only get more expensive over time. The mosin just did it surprisingly fast because they were so cheap, every bubba out there bought one, threw it in a cheap aftermarket stock, bent the bolt, welded a rail to it, and so on.

>>33158472
It's still a historical rifle. Some people just like to collect them because they think they're interesting or they're invested in the history. Even if your particular rifle was carried by some schmuck guarding a post office all war, it's still an example of what would've been carried on the front line.

Not every rifle needs to be a deer rifle or a black rifle for tactical shit anon. Some people like to collect things or just hold a piece of the past in their hands.

Also bolt actions are a lot of fun to shoot.

I paid 300 even for a nugget with a great barrel and finish with everything matching. It's not a A hex tho. Did I overpay?

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>>33161535
>I paid 300 even for a nugget with a great barrel and finish with everything matching. It's not a A hex tho. Did I overpay?
Need to know a lot more about the rifle first, like for instance what model is it and what arsenal/nation made it?

>>33161535
Here's a better question to ask; would rather have waited weeks or months to find the same gun for $50 less?

>>33161568
It's a 1936 91/30.

>>33161864
It's also an Izhevsk.

>>33161283
>Also bolt actions are a lot of fun to shoot.

Second. My favorite kind of rifle to shoot, personally.