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why are they so based is this the new Remington?

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why are they so based

is this the new Remington?
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They're better than Nu-S&W and Remington, at least.
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I don't want to like them but I can't stand the S&W Hillary Hole or Remington, Chiappa, and Taurus' total lack of QC. I have three Rugers and I wish I had none but they're appearently the best option.
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Because they actually care about developing guns. Plenty of gun companies are owned by holding corporations like freedom group that don't give a single shit and just want to squeeze as much money out of a brand name as possible before it dies.
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>colt, remington, and winchester

What went wrong? At least Marlin and Henry are still good
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>>33141617
Marlin has had similar QC issues to remington in the past decade. I hear they've gotten better recently though.
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>ITT: OP buys his first rifle, a 10/22, and proclaims Ruger superiority
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>>33141617

>marlin

nope, not post buy-out they aren't.
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>>33141647
But I just bought a Ruger Redhawk not a 1022
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>>33141647
>t. remington 700 buyer's remorse
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>>33141617
>Henry
I wish they would just make a lever gun with a loading gate...

I emailed them last year asking if they ever had plans to start producing guns with loading gates, all I got out of them was "we aren't ruling out the possibility"
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>>33141508

Ive owned 3 Rugers. 2 were and still are perfect. The third was fucked right outta the box. sent it back, it came home 2 weeks later and is now also perfect. Ruger did no crying or cajoling about it at all. cant ask for more than that.
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I've been really digging Ruger lately. They've just been making really good stuff.
I just bought this American Compact 9
I bought an American Predator in .308 recently
have an obligatory 10/22, but in Takedown format as a truck survival gun
I bought an SR-1911 for my fuddy five need
and I have my Super Blackhawk.

I really, really like Ruger. I like their products, and I like how New Ruger is. Thank fuck that Bill is dead.
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>>33141699
This

Fuck tube mags

The new single shot Henry shotguns look absolutely gorgeous though.
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>>33141851
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I can't stomach Ruger because all of their shit just looks and feels cheep. I'd rather pay a little extra for better fit and finish, even if mechanically Rugers work just as well.
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>buying American guns
>2017
Buy European stuff until domestic companies unfuck their shit.
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>>33142015
The only Ruger I own is a Ruger MKIII .22lr pistol. Fit and finish is very good and it's extremely accurate and reliable. My friend has a Ruger American All Weather bolt action in .270 that he uses for deer hunting that also seems like a nice firearm and puts up some impressive 5 round groups at 100 yards.

I'm not a big fan of most of their polymer semi-auto pistols though.
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>>33142015
Buy a Ruger No. 1 then.
Rebarrel it to .50 BMG.
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>>33141872
muh dick

these are probably like $2500 and ill never own it though
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The 10/22 is kinda overrated
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>>33141617
Colt has been a tire-fire since the 50s. Shit-tier corporate management milking the name for every drop they can get out of it, labor problems, sold their tooling, retarded projects like the All-American 2k, a smartgun tech project that caused uproar, oh and losing their one good military contract.
>Remington
Going the same way as Colt. Taken over by a capital management group more interested in quarterly profits, cost-cutting and pimping the name on everything than making good guns or even having safe levels of QC.
It's just a name now. A shell of it's former self.
>Winchester
Similar story only it started with a big move to simplify their products and add useless lawyer-approved safeties in the 60s. Quality slipped, they hoped the consumers wouldn't notice but they did. Sales nose-dived and Winchester has been on the rocks since. They currently belong to Olin Corp., who originally bought their trademark for Winchester Ammunition. Winchester's firearms division exists like Colt does, limited-run Winchester-branded repros of old designs and special edition commemorative runs, often outsourced to other manufacturers.
>>33141643
That's because Remington bought them. Original factory has been shut down, all the original employees were fired or relocated to the Remington plant (along with a massive pay cut) to work alongside talentless minimum-waged meth-shooting trailer park brats that don't know anything about actually building guns.
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>>33142304
Nope like 3-4 hundred maybe a little more.

>>33141872
I have no need for one but I will probably buy one. So good.

Any idea on the choke system? I hope it's replaceable and adjustable

Don't know which receiver I like better
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>>33142304
>Steel finish: $427.00 MSRP
>Brass finish: $549.00 MSRP
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>>33142389
Looks like they use Rem-Style chokes, so pretty standard.

As far as finish goes, I'm really liking the steel.
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I keep begging them to make an uber blackhawk in 500 magnum.
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>>33141851
Tube magaxines a perfectly adequate for shotguns and lever action rifles.

>>33142325
No, not really at all. Esp for their price

>>33141508
I own 4 rugers, a Mark IV 22/45 lite, a highly modified 10/22, plus another basic 10/22, and a mini14

I think bill ruger is a pretty cool guy, eh loopholed the awb and doesn't afraid of anything.
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>>33142870
They are adequate but I do not like them

I prefer a loading gate.

>>33142651
Damn I think I'm going to have to get one
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>>33142870
>No, not really at all. Esp for their price
10/22s are cheap and have cheap fit and finish. Everyone creams themselves over them, but they're really the HiPoint of .22s. I bought one because I was told again and again that it was the gold standard beginner's rifle and immediately had problems with the internals and am overall dissatisfied.

On top of that, custom GUCCI .22s are a fucking meme and will never shoot as well as a gun twice the price out of the box would.
My problems with 10/22s would be less pronounced if the actual quality models like the Sporter were more readily store-available
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Bill Ruger died and they stopped being Fudds, and instead turned to leveraging their good name into the the AR industry with enough scale that they can survive the bottom falling out of the market, because they can put shitloads of AR-556's out for the same cost/time as all the garage builders can throw out the same shit.
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>>33142378
I know for a fact that that's not true because I've been to gun valley in the past 6 months.

Marlins are still made in Massachusetts
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>>33141655
Marlin is fine now that they got some degree of autonomy from freedom Inc
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>>33142961
>>33142378
He's also wrong about Winchester. Winchester ammo and Winchester firearms are completely separate entities now. The name for ammo is owned by the Olin corp, but the Winchester firearm company is owned by the Herstal Group.
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>>33141508
Idk, the only real faux paus by S&W is the Hillary hole, and I think that's less egregious than ruger helping to write the 94 AWB
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>>33141617

Winchester is now owned by FN, and frankly, the guns are better than ever. No corners cut on their legacy designs.
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>>33141508
Because they sell a broad variety of reliable firearms at a reasonable price.

While they aren't perfect, I use Ruger as the standard to hold other companies to.
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>>33143001
This, even my FN catalog says their bolt actions are copies of pre-64 Winchesters.
>>33143007
This. Don't they make some in Japan.
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>>33143007
>Winchester is now owned by FN
>they arent making new Slam-Fire 1897s
Nigger what the fuck
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>>33142921
I get 1" groups at 50yds with it, using a vortex crossfire 3-9x and 40gr federal gold medal target .

I've also shot A class in steel challenge with it, with a time of 55.12, using a Burris fastfire 3 and federal automatch.

To each their own, but to me, the 10/22 is awesome.
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>>33141508
I wish they made a GI style 1911 desu
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>>33142879
You said 'fuck tube mags', I guess you meant front loading tube mags.
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>>33141562
>They're better than Nu-S&W
oh god I just bought an M&P Sport as my first AR for 500 bucks did I fuck up
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>>33141604
>>33141775
>>33143034
These are why Ruger is my favorite manufacturer.
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>>33143175
No M&P is fine. It's the standard of entry level AR's for a reason. Lot's of people just don't like how S&W gave in and put Hillary holes in their revolvers.
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>>33143071
>works on my machine with xyz equipment
Sure bud, and that's cool, but we're talking out of the box here.
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>>33142394
>>Steel finish: $427.00 MSRP

Holy shit brehs. Time to save up! I know single shot shotguns are a meme but I'm going in
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>>33143213
>On top of that, custom GUCCI .22s are a fucking meme and will never shoot as well as a gun twice the price out of the box would.
>Sure bud, and that's cool, but we're talking out of the box here.

Not him but you are retarded and brought up GUCCIIIIIIIIIII 10/22s first.
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>>33143152
Yes sorry should've clarified.
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>>33142015
>>33142921
>wheezing intensifies
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I forgot, I also have a lcp, so I own 5 rugers firearms.
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>>33143256
No, I brought up the fact that even a heavily customised 10/22 will be out-shot by the next step up in quality straight out of the box.
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>>33143373
>even GUCCCIIIIII 10/22s
>no idiot out of the box I didn't mention GUCCIIIIIII 10/22s
>well yeah I was talking about GUCIIIIIIII 10/22s

make up your damn mind
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my thoughts on ruger. I wanted a gun to walk around in the woods with semi auto with ten round magazine so naturally i get something like a garand , mini 14-30, sks, hakim something like that. so i go out and buy a new mini 14 i go and put about 40 rounds through it then go to shoot it again and it wont shoot. turns our brass got into the bolt becouse they didnt burr it enough and the firing pin was also to long. works fine now but i deem it unreliable. i will never buy another ruger and i will sell this once my sks comes in. they did mail me a new top rail for it becouse i called and said i never got one tho. however i wish sanctions of guns were opened up to other places like russia, china, turkey etc becouse then we would get our own makers here to make good guns again because of competition or go out of business for all i care i came to terms with only collecting mostly milsurp anyway because it goes up in value
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>>33141872
>brass is nicer
>looks less comfotable to hold than steel
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I appreciate Ruger a lot. Their P-Series was a really great addition to their long line of firearms. Some people hate the bulkiness, but something about them makes me want even more. I've got a P85 and P90 and I've never had a jam or malfunction. Fit and finish have always been spot on, too. Do wish I had some of the older S&W pistols, though. Especially that one that was chambered in 10mm and carried by the RCMP for a while.
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>>33144085
>Do wish I had some of the older S&W pistols, though. Especially that one that was chambered in 10mm and carried by the RCMP for a while.

Is that the one that Canadian Guardian of the Parliament used to take out that terrorist a couple years back?
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>>33144138
The RCMP is like a gay version of the Texas rangers except for all of Canada
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>>33144177
I have absolutely no idea what that had to do with my question.
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>>33144193
I thought you were asking about the RCMP as a whole not a specific division

Then again I'm drunk so whatever
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>>33144138

I don't think so. The model I want is the 1006. The guy used a 9mm if IIRC. Blasted the dude mid-dive.
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>>33144220
Fair enough.

>>33144231
Regardless, was very impressive. Would operate with.
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Ruger is garbage, they even cast barrels.
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>>33141699
That's why I go with Marlin. Its almost as smooth as a Henry with a Winchester-style loading gate. Compromise, certainly, but I'll take it.

>>33142015
Nigga, what Rugers are you playing with? My GP100 and my dad's SP101 are both solid revolvers that are pretty as fuck.
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>>33143056

Long barreled 97's are all over the place, they'd be competing with their own guns that sell for 40% of what they'd be able to sell new ones for.

From a modern standpoint they leave a lot to be desired. Rattly as fuck, open top, etc.
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Is it wrong that I want a Mini 14 over an AR-15?

Granted I am a leaf that has hope that he will one day find a factory folder.
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>>33144342
Not at all, they are sexy AF. Rotating bolt always blanks my blank.
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>>33144342
I live in fagachusetts (fuck your hockey team regardless) so my only hope of shooting 5.56 legally is the mini 14
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>>33144410
>I live in fagachusetts (fuck your hockey team regardless) so my only hope of shooting 5.56 legally is the mini 14

you could move...
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>>33143673
Exactly what my first thought was
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>>33144436
I want to buy that's also how libs win, by forcing you out until a state is secure then moving on to the next.

If I'm not willing to stay and fight /vote, who will be?
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>>33141647
OP wouldn't be wrong.

best support i've ever experienced from a firearms manufacturer.
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>>33144460
I have no qualms with that, a very good reason to stay. Enjoy your mini 14.
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>>33144342
the mini 14 is garbage and cannot take steel case without jamming
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>>33144535
>steel case
well there's your problem, cheapskate
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>>33141777
>Thank fuck that Bill is dead
Trips of absolute truth.
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>>33141508
Nobody currently makes a better revolver.
The P- series are great to shoot and indestructible.
I wish I still had my .44 carbine.
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>>33142304
Just checked, msrp is $427.
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I like some of Ruger's guns, I have a 10/22 and a 1976 Security Six that I'd never part with, and an old school Bearcat .22 that I keep because my brother gave it to me.

Ruger has also cranked out a lot of junk over the years, too.

I live in Arizona, and Ruger's Prescott factory is constantly hiring Temp workers at $10/hour, no benefits. It's my opinion that the reason that Ruger products are so hit and miss is that the smart and skilled workers leave for better jobs ASAP, and are replaced by fireable fuck ups.

My advice and experience is to only buy Ruger products with an enforceable warranty, and work them hard at the range before the warranty is up.
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>>33144834
Ruger doesn't do warranties. You just call in and they repair or replace.
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>>33144297
>Ruger
>Garbage

Their semi's a built to a price point, if you want something better pay for it.

Their revolvers are solid though.
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>>33141872
>$430 for a fucking hammer fired single shot that a Baikal shits all over.

Fuck me. I know it's not a BT99 but God damn Henry.
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>>33144882
>Ruger doesn't do warranties. You just call in and they repair or replace.

Does that sound like a warranty to you?
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>>33144948
What kind of Baikal shits on it?

I've got a boner for this Henry
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>>33144925
>Their revolvers are solid though.

Agree, the 10/22 is gold as well.
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>>33144961
Pretty similar but the point is you don't have to fish out a receipt with a date on it
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>>33144948
meh. you can get their single shot rifles in .44 mag for 365
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Ausbro here,

Hows the Ruger Precision Rifle? Is it worth getting or is there smt better like the Tikka TACx A1?
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>>33141872
Also available in rifle calibers.
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>>33141665
What barrel length did you get? I got a larger than expected tax return this year and I have always wanted one. Thinking if i don't do It know I never will sort of thing.
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>>33141603
You're kind of an idiot. "Man I have 3 guns that are currently the best but man I wish I didn't have those good guns and wish they were different guns"
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>>33145138
It's a Ruger American in a chassis.

If that appeals to you, they're ok.
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Huge fan of Ruger, my lgs has their SR9C for $350 this month and i'm looking to get one for a new CC, but I can already hear glockfags screeching. May just get it because its a good deal imo.
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>blued redhawks back in production never
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>>33147846
I bought the stainless version for the same price with 3 10rd mags. I'm very pleased with it.
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>>33144925
This. Ruger revolvers work, every time. I have yet to have one fail on me.
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>>33147870
I'm probobly going with the black finish because it makes the absurd amount of safeties look less visible.

thoughts on removing the magazine disconnect?
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Good quality, good deals, great custom service and it's a local company for me.

Ruger ain't top-tier stuff, but it's still a damn good company.
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Ruger's hawk line of revolvers, their shotguns, and bolt action rifles are pretty good. The rest is pretty shitty.
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>>33147886
I would also have gone with black, but when I was looking the cheapest ones were $375 with two mags, so I went stainless for the better deal.

I've never removed mine, it doesn't bother me that much. I think it's fairly easy to do though, seems like lots of people do it.
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>>33147908
I want to remove it if I get it, but I worry if I have to use it in SD it will be used against me.
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>>33148055
I don't think that would be used against you, if they even found out it was removed.
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>If HPA passes, could Ruger make a silenced pistol for my Sniper elite dreams?
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I'm up for a 10/22, but I gave no interest in anything else they make. I've owned a Security Six and it was pretty cool, I'm just not a revolver guy though.
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>>33148163
Silencerco already did.
Maxim 9
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>>33141508
Based? Is there more than one meaning on 4chan for this? It seems like it gets used positively and negatively.
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>>33142058
american european guns are usually made in murrica anyways
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Ruger makes some good shit. Bill Ruger was a fudd and we all hate him, but he's gone now.
Got 3 Rugers in my family - Mini14, American .308, and a purple SR22 cause the wife and kid loves it
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>>33144535
So polish the bolt and breech face, problem solved. Why is it so much easier to regurgitate the same old shit for a decade than to look at a 10min solution to a problem only some people have had
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>>33148193
Nah Based is good and is a 4chan thing
Basic or base is not and isn't a 4chan thing

The word meme however has no fucking meaning anymore and fudd is used wrong all the time
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>>33143001
Literally all of it was personal opinion and with a bit of hearsay and assumption. Dude knows nothing and probably like to hate on the big, old names.
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>>33143211
I'm unaware of this? Can anyone explain?
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Should I get a Redhawk?
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>>33148222
Trips of truth.
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>>33141508
I'd love to own one.. too bad I don't live in USA
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>>33141647

You do know the same company that owns Remington also owns Marlin, right?
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>>33148313
S&W caved to gun control pressure and put a locking mechanism into their revolvers. You can see it as a little hole on the left side of the frame near the grip. You have to use a little key or something to turn it and lock the revolver, making it "safe" and unable to fire. It was in response to some legislation Hillary Clinton proposed or something along those lines, hence Hillary hole.

Many people don't like it because they see it as a point of failure that could unintentionally keep the gun from firing. Most hate it just because of the idea of S&W caving to anti-gun pressure when they didn't have to.
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>>33141777
Fucking checked, Bill Ruger can suck it.

Love my SR9, it shouldn't shoot as good as it does. I was going to get the Ruger American but it feels to square in the back of the grip, as in the web of my hand. Plus the Hudson H9 debut so now I'm wanting that meme machine.
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>>33148819
I hate the Hillary Hole for the sole reason that I think it destroys the aesthetics of their otherwise good looking revolvers. I have no fucking clue why they are still producing revolvers with those locks to this day...
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>>33149058
You know that if they stopped, gun control groups and the media would latch onto it screaming, "S&W is making their guns safe on purpose! They want to kill babies!" And I'm assuming its easier to leave them and avoid that headache.
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>>33149076
*unsafe
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>>33149076
If that was truly the case, then that would just be one more reason not to buy new from S&W.
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Wish Ruger would cater to my own personal wishes and crank out brand new P85 & P89 for a limited run.
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>>33143175
Enormously, enjoy having no dust cover or forward assist.
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>>33141508
As far as I rememember, it was Bill Ruger who proposed the AWB of 1994...
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>>33149370
The one I bought has both, famalam.
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>>33149386

Bill Ruger is also dead.
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>>33149399
Then it's not the sport model famalam
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>>33149787
So is Lenin. But that doesn't mean his supporters have stopped turning the world into a shithole after his demise.
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>>33149909
Have you even looked at the models current Ruger & co is selling? They turned around and shat on Bill Ruger's grave.
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>>33149900
sport II has both a dustcover and forward assist.
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>>33149985
Cool story, the sport model doesn't tho.
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>>33148819
>&W caving to anti-gun pressure when they didn't have to.
They got bought by an antigun britfag. They're going away verrrry slowly despite overzealous lawyers. There's a number of .38s you can buy w/o the hole now.
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>>33150032
>being this autistic about semantics
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>>33148222
>HK everything
>Glock
>Beretta 92
No.
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>>33150354
He meant good guns
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>>33148281
>>>33148193
>Based is a 4chan thing
that would be lil B, actually
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>>33150492
Name a gun better than those.
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>>33150354
>FN
>any improved Glock-clone
>Sig according to the US Army
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>>33150826
>FN
>better than HK
That's wrong.
Also, the army doesn't know shit about shit. They just wanted a pistol that has no safety or controls so that retard officers could pass quals once a year.
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>>33150851
>Also, the army doesn't know shit about shit
Not that guy, but they knew that having a sand and dust vulnerable sidearm as standard issue in recent sandy engagements was a bad idea.
Also slide safety is really meme
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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