Knife General /ktg/

>>33129581
Bumping for curiosity sake, looking for a better blade.

what is that in the middle?

Just watched Gordon Ramsay's video of basic kitchen kit. BAM says a good knife should have a great handle. More weight in the handle, more control. Yet that custom maker here swears the weight should be just the blade.

I really don't want to hollow out my knives, I'm thinking my first batch will be 100% full tang, no drilling except for pins. If they're handle-heavy, then I will experiment.

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>>33129588
Well what will you use it for? What is your budget? If you say to carry everyday, for little things here and there, that still provides shit information to help you out.

>>33129588
A good balde depends on your use and price range.
Tell us those things and we can give you better suggestions.

>>33129588
You should get a Sebenza 21, and don't settle for anything less, or anything from any other website besides Chris Reeve's.

>>33129588
Buck 110

>>33129588
Espada XL is a v. nice knife for the money. Big value.

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What's /k/'s opinion of the Higo no Kami knives? Decent? Weeb shit? I think they look nice. No frills, not tacticool, just a decent little blade for general slicing. I think they're interesting enough that people might ask about it and then you could make a new friend.

>>33129696
>>33129702
I'm looking for a folding for everyday carry/utility. And if my cc fails me self defense

Not too expensive, but I'm not above putting down cash for something of good quality that will last

Oh and it can't be too big or I just won't carry it, already been through that before.

>>33129827
Ganzo makes some pretty good stuff on the cheap.

>>33129588
I'd go for a sebenza 21. Pricey, but you will never need a new knife again.

>>33129655
Protech Godfather or Godson, I'm not exactly sure which one exactly though.

>>33129814
Buy one. and buy an Opinel No. 7 or No. 8. Very good fruit/ vege knives. I use mine daily. Just don't let your gf throw it in the sink.

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wew

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How did I do for spending $50 bucks the other day on amazon to get 8 dollars off /k/?

Needed a new folding knife and wanted a big fixed blade because why not.

I just bought a SOCP.

How many memes am I in for?

>>33131100
Is that the SCHF36 or the 37?

>>33131127
It's the SCHF52. It was only 35 bucks and also came with a cheap sheath, sharpener, and flint. Decent edge for that it is.

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>>33131166

>>33131190
>>33131166
wut dat is?

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kabar TDI series are always a nice choice

>>33131638
Kershaw Skyline

>>33129581
gurntew

>>33131159
The heat treat is shit and the blade's entirely too fucking thick for any practical use.

Bought one when the store I worked at clearanced them out for $17, snapped at the choil literally the first time I tried to chop with it.

There's a reason it's so cheap for being 1095.

>>33129827
Benchmade Griptillian.

About $100, but it's solid. Best EDC blade I own and built like a tank for a folder.

>>33129827
>>33132298

https://www.amazon.com/Benchmade-Griptilian-Plain-Drop-Point-Finish/dp/B01LWCOGV8

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>>33129726
>>33129854
But the Sebenza is like objectively bad, money aside, it's not a good knife performance wise. He runs his s35vn way to soft, and thus it's one of the only "quality" pocket knives that you can actually roll the edge on while cutting rope (not joking, look up jdavis on YouTube). And The lock, while very smooth and nice, is debatebly very weak.

>>33129766
I obviously second this... pic related

>>33132242
Good to know anon, thanks.

>>33132298
>>33132332
I personally think the Griptilian is too thick to be an EDC knife. Plus the super aggressive texturing of the scales makes it tear up pants pockets.

>>33132353
If you have the capability to do a full regrind, you've certainly got plenty of material to work with. IIRC the blade's nearly a quarter inch thick (7/64ths if I measured correctly). Give it a full grind instead of a Scandi and make it taper a bit more to the point along the spine and you'll both shave a lot of weight (it's really fucking heavy as-is) and end up with a fairly usable blade. Maybe with all that re-grinding you'll soften the temper enough it won't instantly snap too.

I did like the handles on it.

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>>33129827
I own like 37 folders between $20 and $250 right now, and I can't recommend the Cold Steel Code4 (pic related) enough, it's my go to knife when I'm working a labor job. They are like $70. If you want cheaper, I would recommend the Kershaw Skyline and Link, Ontario RAT 1, and Cold Steel Medium Voyager...

>>33132298
The Benchamde Mini Grip is alright, I'm not a fan of it, I think there is a lot better for the price, but it's not a bad option if you just like it.

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>>33131166
>>33131190
I guess the three of us are the only Skyline fags on /k, at lest that I've really seen so far.

>>33132410
7/64 is closer to 1/8"

>>33132496
Well then I didn't remember correctly. It's a hell of a lot thicker than an eighth of an inch anyway.

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>>33132298
>Benchmade Griptillian.

No man, the Osborne knives are where its at. I love the 940.

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>>33131190
Whats the best assisted folder with a slim handle like this but with more finger grips?

N preferably on the cheap.

>>33132692
Kershaw Leek.
>no finger grips so you don't have to hold it like a 3-fingered retard
>fucking perfect blade geometry
>decent blade steel
>under fiddy bux

If you're gonna spend more than $50 step up to an actually-good knife with an actually-good bearing system that negates the need for assisted opening.

How do you get past the idea that spending $200 on a knife it's fucking stupid? I always get stuck that for that money I could buy several other quality tools like pliers, screwdrivers and hammers.

Modern folding tactical knives are so fucking overpriced that it's not even funny.

>But muh quality materials
Nah, it's just a market sector that the buyers will just throw money at companies due to their name and perceived quality manufacturing when in fact they're just being totally jewed.

>>33132692
Yeah I agree with this >>33132743, the link is a really awesome knife and being made in the US and starting at $30, it's hard to beat.

Finger grips are typically a bad thing, notice that most high end knives don't have them. More so, I think they look ugly.

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>>33132743
The Leek looks like it could slip out of your hand too easily.

Im looking for something more like the Kershaw Volt II, this looks almost perfect.

>>33132870
But this doesnt have a thumb stud.

>>33132890
It's got a flipper choil that works with or without the assisted opening spring.

>>33132870
I own two, including the high-polish stainless one (which is kinda slick). I've never had it slip.

It's not a hard-use knife. If you need a hard-use knife for EDC you're doing something wrong.

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>>33132800
And this is something unique to knives? This is pretty much in every market.

If you can't see the difference, it's because you have not looked hard enough. With knives, after $70 or so, there is not inherent improvement in durability or functionality for the most part. After that they are more than just tools but a hobby. What goes up is fit and finish, attention to detail, aesthetic design, and yes materials.

>>33132969
Whats that one on the bottom?

>>33132969
So, gonna jump in the middle of this argument here.

Functional differences: How many more months between sharpenings will a $200 BM 940 Osborne last over a $20 Ganzo G710?

Because, in my experience, it's zero. You're paying $100 for the Benchmade butterfly, and $70 for the forge-certified S30V logo.

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>>33133007
A ZT 0562 CF. A very nice knife, one of my most frequently carried.

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Non shit knives? No problem

>>33133066
How the fuck do you fit that monstrosity in your pocket? Fucking thing's the size of my phone.

What the fuck do you do to require that much knife on a daily basis, and how do you tolerate the weight and bulk of it?

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>>33133072

>>33132969
>And this is something unique to knives?
Obviously no but it's leveled to an extreme point. Manufacturers know that they can get away with charging $200 for a piece of steel and g10 because some retarded youtuber shills for them.
That and the fact that you have white color manchild workers that cry about muh hard use or edge holding capabilities when they will use knives to nothing else than opening boxes or letters.

Nowadays you have fucking ball bearings in fucking knives for fucks sake. People are dumb fucks that are ok with paying even more for a thing that adds nothing to the knife in terms of reliability or ergonomics.

Good thing it's that at least we se more Chinese companies offering the same or more quality for a much smaller pricetag.

>>33132351
do you live purely for knife threads? I barely even come here, and I can always count on seeing your ridiculous collection in any knife thread

>>33133066
Thats nice but its a little wide and way too expensive for me. Know of anything similar thats still decent?

>>33133060
Too many factors, edge geometry is very important for edge retention, and more important than any thing else by a long shot, it what you are cutting, it varies too much to conclusively compare too knives out side of a controlled experiment.

More on this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSDFLgq4EDs

I'm not claiming that a $200 or $1,000 knife is any more usable as a tool than a $30 Kershaw. Just as a Ferrari will get you from A to B just as well at a Toyota (if not worse).

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we dem Triage boys

>>33133134
You aren't, but practically everyone else ITT is.

So. Other than aesthetics and brandwhoring, why the fuck buy a $200 knife if a $20 one performs either just as well, or close enough that it's nearly impossible to tell without resorting to lab environments?

>>33132870
Kershaw Volt II is a good knife for the money, which I carry while at work for light and medium duty tasks (apartment maintenance/ handyman here), it's a good beater, I just wish it were a bit thinner. Then again, I'm used to carrying a Benchmade CLA on the weekends when not working, which in my opinion is the perfect blade length, weight, and thickness to handle well.

Also on the Volt II I tried to reposition the clip for tip-up carry and the threads stripped on me. Might be my own dumbass fault though....

>>33133134
>Just as a Ferrari will get you from A to B just as well at a Toyota (if not worse).
I don't want to attack you personally but this is such retarded comparison that it's not even funny.

The know-how, the difference in performance (assuming that you're racing), the infinite number of components, the status, the exclusivity and so on.

Take two knives from $20 and $200 assembly line and give to the average person and they will not be able to see a difference neither in performance nor quality.

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Does anyone have any experience with these? I'm interested in buying one but want to know what others think about them. I already have an ESEE 6 for comparison if that means anything to you.

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Can anyone inform me on legality and ability to purchase, transport, own, and carry knives in Israel?

>>33133276
It looks like a less-ergonomic Buck Nighthawk.

Other than that, no.

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Posting my two favorite knives, had the bigger one for years and it still opens and cuts really nice.
Smaller one I got awhile ago.

Looking to get a Buck Knife or maybe a different folder.
That slippery slope is real guys

>>33133270
>Take two knives from $20 and $200 assembly line and give to the average person and they will not be able to see a difference neither in performance nor quality.

Well for companies like Benchmade part of what you pay for is their life time warranty which is really good and they often fix a lot of issues for free (even sometimes for dumbfucks who mess with their knives).

But the average person is not going to be buying a $200+ knife. They are meant for collectors or people who want a "designer" knife.

>>33133327
My $15 Kershaw has the exact same warranty though.

And I know it's good, because I've used it twice. Once on a manufacturer's defect (the locking bar never worked), and once on a broken blade (I needed to pry something and didn't have a prybar, so I used and broke my knife blade). I sent it in, expecting to be charged for a new blade (supposedly $10 regardless of knife model), they sent back the repaired knife with a "how the fuck did you do this? Nevermind, we fixed your knife" note.

>>33133365
Oh, also, UNLIKE Benchmade, they pay shipping both ways for warranty repair. Gotta send your Benchmade in on your dime.

>>33133365

For the most part a $200 knife will be made of superior materials compared to a cheap knife. It probably is not going to be obvious to people who don't know much about knives but the blade steel should be much better and can be one of the factors that makes the knife expensive. I agree however benchmade does charge a little extra for being a name brand but I really like some of their designs.

If people don't feel like putting a lot of money towards a knife they shouldn't. I just like collecting them.

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>>33133117
Pretty much... But not just Knife threads, sword threads as well where you can count on seeing my (less) ridiculous collection of swords.
>>>33091899

>>33133127
Well what is it that you like? What are you looking for? I can list maybe a hundred or so quality folding knives that are cheaper and smaller than this.

>>33133082
For me it's kind of average size, but yeah I can see it's agree. I don't notice the wait at all... I mean I wear a belt and jeans... I carry smaller knives like the Skyline and others from time to time. It's not about what I "need" to carry but what I want to carry.

>>33133405
>will be made of superior materials
Until someone can demonstrate in a real-world environment how superior they are to a $20 knife made with 440C or chinese S30V, then they're not superior enough to justify a 1000% price increase.

Especially when the chinese have managed to clone all of the "patented" wunder-features of the high-end knives like the axis lock and whatever handwavium goes into a Sebenza.

>>33131110
plz respond

>>33133418
>it's not about what I need to carry, but what I want to carry
Totally fine with that. To me, though, a monstrosity like that eating my whole pocket would drive me nuts. I simply DONT ever need a knife that big outside of backpacking, and I carry a dedicated fixed-blade (which is still only about the size of that ZT) for those uses, on my belt.

Weight is only a concern because I have had really heavy knives that held my pocket open far enough to get the pocket snagged on shit before, not saying it fatigues you noticeably.

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>>33133418

Something like these 2 with plenty of finger grips
>>33132870
>>33132692
and a thin frame like
>>33131190
and a thumb stud at a fair price.

Im thinking of getting one of the first 2 unless I find something better because I can get them at my local gun shop.

>>33133473
Chinkshit garbage plus a TDI, which is also garbage.

>>33133492
Coast knife was made in America.

>>33133483
Seriously, finger grips suck.

>>33133504
Out of what steel? 8cr13 chinese steel? noname "stainless" that I 100% guarantee is chinese?

>>33133514
I've used it to pry rusted engines apart, maybe it is chinese steel, but it's a wonderful knife.

>>33133320
>>33133276
https://russian-sales.com/collection/hunting/korshun-2-kizlyar-knife-black-oxide-elastron/#readmore
Here's a link, looks kind of sketchy but they accept PayPal and it isn't very expensive. It's French z60 steel, not sure how that is. I already have survived knives and pocket knives taken care of so this doesn't have to have a practical use, I just like the way it looks.

>>33133514
hey, coast knives are great for an everyday work knife. doesn't matter what special snowflake shit its made of.

>>33133425
>Sebenza
Don't even get me started on these. I mean the tolerances and all, plus the slick design are nice but $400 for plain jane titanium handles and s35vn treated on the soft side are a mystery to me.

I'm the guy who started this entire discussion and don't get me wrong, I have zero problems on how people choose to spend their money, they can burn it for as much I care. I just feel that as a consumer that happens to like quality but not being jewed we all consumers end up losing in that regard.

Machining and grinding in the EU/US it's of course more expensive than in China, titanium it's more expensive than aluminum, developing "high-end super steels" to meet some delusional parameters it's expensive too, we all get it though.

>>33133542
*survival knives

>>33133514
Isn't that kabar 1095?

>>33133534
yeah, I just looked them up. They're all Chinese steels. Though it looks like that particular model's been discontinued.

One of my toughest knives was one of the Home Depot-branded Ken Onion knives made out of noname "stainless". Didn't hold an edge for shit but I could pry with it all day long.

>>33133559
Just because it serves a purpose doesn't mean it's a good knife. I'm also not saying I don't have a drawer full of sub-$20 beater knives for shit like prying engine parts apart when I can't get a putty knife to fit.

>>33133473
It's a start, you'll get better tools eventually. The fixed it's ok tho.

>>33133582
Depending on the model either AUS-8 or D2. Decent steel but nothing special.

It's just a super shitty design that's bad at everything.

>>33133270
I'm not the same anon, but you seem to be making a mistake in your logic. If you show the two knives to a person who knows little to nothing about knives, they won't see the difference, this carries true to the car comparison, my grand mom would not know the difference between the two but state the Ferrari is too loud.

To make anything more than a surface level comparison of any two like things, one most have some level of knowledge on it.

>>33133542
Kizlyar's own website says it's a kissing cousin of AUS-8, so decent steel.
>http://site.kizlyarknifestore.com.au/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=25&Itemid=296#Z60


That being said, the handle still looks like ass. May I recommend seeing how link related tickles your pickle?
>https://www.knifecenter.com/item/BU0650BKSTP/TOPSBuck-650-Nighthawk-Combat-Knife-Fixed-6-12-inch-Plain-Blade-Nylon-Handles
Not the greatest steel ever but Buck has always done phenomenally with their heat treat, and if you're mainly after it for looks it'll serve.

>>33133650
Give a normal person a Ferrari and a minivan, and put them on 2 miles of straight, closed track and they'll notice a difference.

Give a normal person a BM 940 and a Ganzo G710 and a pile of wrist-thick oak branches they have to cut through, and they won't.

Both are performance-related tasks on a level playing field with easily-interpreted results, that can be accomplished by the lowest-functioning windowlicker in society.

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>>33133686
>TOPS collab
That's cool, but I like the Kizlyar because of the context of the knife. In the sheath it looks like it belongs on the belt of a VDV soldier. It won't be used seriously, consider it like a novelty item that could be used seriously if need be.

R8 current knives, not impressive but I like them.

>>33133789
the ESEE is a great knife, little too big for my uses but a great knife nonetheless.

The Zing is a meh knife at a good price. If only they hadn't used the cheapest steel possible. It takes all the good qualities of the Leek and downsizes them.

>>33133604
Thanks bud

>>33133066
How's the ball bearing axis pivot treating you?
Did you ever disassembled it? Is there at least a steel washer between bearing and Ti frame to prevent rolling damage?

>>33133060
Benchmade is a bad example of a quality expensive knife since they're known for mega price gouging.

>>33133589
>Didn't hold an edge for shit but I could pry with it all day long
Yes, that is indeed how soft steel works

>non-shit knives
>posts autos
Like, Protech is the only decent auto company, but they're still autistic autos.

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Been thinking about getting pic related. What do you guys think?

http://www.bladehq.com/item--Kizer-Laconico-Gemini-Frame-Lock--32460

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>>33130617
very nice buy, I'm happy for ya man. Bumping with my own gec.

>>33129854

except when you go out and buy one immediately, because the sebongo is a shit knife, with a bad heat treat, and no locking mechanism worth mentioning.

I like to read what broke ass millenials think of luxury markets. You can also get shoes for $9.99 at swap meet. And then there are production loafers that go for over $450. Robert Downey Jr has a collection, worth almost a million.

Since this is k, a $129 Marlin fires every time just like a custom volquartzen that can cost $2,500+.

And chick scopes at $19.99 can hold zero just as well as U.S. Optics that cost $1999.

But yeah, buy a nice Ontario RAT and see what a relatively decent value knife is like.

I hope you realize their are people in the world that make your whole years salary in just a few days or weeks.

>>33136654
I don't see the problem with upper end stuff. But I don't see the big gap between a custom US optics scope vs a production US made scope that costs half as much. There's a saying about different income levels and their priorities. Low income people look to value, mid income people look for quality, high income people look for luxury. You always get diminishing returns at certain levels.

>>33134791
I can vouch for Kizer making a quality knife.

They're the first all-Chinese knife company that's really impressed me--it's not outsourced shit, they're completely self-autonomous and have a sense of pride about the work they do. They collaborate with good designers, their own designs aren't shameless knock-offs, and their fit and finish is exceptional from all I've seen. And they go out of their way to import good materials. I do love S35VN.

>>33136710

scopes make a big difference - mainly in the picture clarity, paralax error, light transmision, and the like.

If you shoot FT/HFT you'll know what i'm talking about - those guys fuss over .1'' deviation at 50m for a .177 pellet.

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>>33129726
good choice imho

>>33135816
Its a meme You dip. I take it you feel for it

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Anyone interested in any of these ?

>>33138860
What do you mean by interested? You selling/trading? Unfortunately I'm not really looking into any of that right now, I've got a few particular knives/projects I'm saving for.

The 0801 looks nice, you do it your self or someone else?

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>>33134441

But automatic knives are cool

>>33139397
selling all, or trading mulitple for 1. Will take a loss on trade.

Did it for fun

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>>33134441
Protech, microtech, böker, benchmade all make great autos.

>>33135806
How do you like the beer scout polack ?

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Lost my sak a week ago. Felt naked without it, bought a new one, came in today.

>>33138860
How much for the spyderco

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>>33129655
godfather

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>>33134441
>autistic autos
explain

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>>33140014
I've always liked the Protech side opening Autos... I need to try out some more autos, right now I just have a crap OTF and have handled a bunch of old switch blades. I've had the Protech Newport CF on my list a long time, just have yet to get it.

How has the Godfather held up?

>>33139704
Pretty sweet. Gec does great blade geometry (really thin behind the edge), and having a screwdriver is a plus in the server room (i still need to go get a phillips, or the odd torx for many screws, but some take a flathead just fine).

And the sheepsfoot is still pointy enough for opening those friggin hp toner packages sealed in air bags.

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>>33140076
so far so good, however the godfather isn't exactly a knife you'd want to really work hard since the tip is rather fragile

i also want to try a newport, especially if they're anything like my half breed, which is basically just a newport but with a 2" blade

>>33140308
Nice. Been eying them for a while.

>>33134791
>>33136894

I can confirm, I have the VG10 Roach from Kizer, the knife is excellent and it isn't even one of their premium Ti+S35VN models. Kizer is quality.

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>>33141219
Kizer and protech both great. Kizer is the smoothest flipper I have. Ceramic bearings AND detent.

Protech is really light and thin with a delicate tip like the other guy said.

Both well worth it and then some

>>33132800

By not being poor?

It sounds mean but I don't know what else to tell you. When I was in college I'd skip unnecessary meals or eat cheap as fuck for weeks to buy the things I wanted, which were mostly budget knives and the occasional kinda-expensive flipper. Compare that to now where I can't find enough things I really want to spend money on. When something catches my eye I tend to jump in head first. Knives and guns are some of the only things I enjoy buying, so I don't mind spending more than $200 on a single knife if it's rare, desirable, or I like the design or that particular maker.

What you have to keep in mind is that diminishing returns will fuck you if value for your dollar even enters your equation for buying luxury goods. Will a $70 knife get me by? Sure. Does it bring me the enjoyment and exclusivity a custom knife will? Absolutely fucking not.

You gotta pay to play.

>>33133082

>and how do you tolerate the weight and bulk of it?

By dressing like an adult.

>>33133566

>I just feel that as a consumer that happens to like quality but not being jewed we all consumers end up losing in that regard.

They are free to charge whatever they want for their product and you are free to purchase or not purchase that product, and if you want it cheaper you are obviously free to make it yourself just as long as you don't sell it to others for profit.

I'll agree that I'd never pay what CR charges for his knives, but that's 100% because of his shitty heat treat that he does on fucking purpose and he will accost you if you ask him about it at a knife show. For that money I'm buying m390 XM-18s all fucking day.

>>33133709

Pearls to swine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOceOsq8sHc

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>>33132800

This (>>33136654 >>33141704) pretty much summarizes my thoughts. I still am a poor college fag, but my collection pays for it's self. Since I have been into knives for so long, I figured out how to make it self sufficient, invested in sharpening equipment, and that is how I fund the hobby.

I can still take joy in $30 knives though, even though I own a hand full of $200+ knives.

And yeah it's diminishing returns. I think the height of functionality can be had for $70ish-$140ish... Anything after that is going to be for higher levels of design, fit&finish, yes name brands, needlessly exotic steels and materials, ect...

Im afraid to post a collection pic because so many of my knives are almost unique and bought on forums im afraid ill get recognized ; _ ;

>>33142096
Then why mention it?

>>33142096
Do it anyway.

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>>33134037
I don't recall if I've ever taken it apart, I rarely really take my knives apart unless they seem like they need a good cleaning or some centering adjustments... The 0562 being very well centered and open back, I may never need to take it apart.

If I recall right though, it has captured bearings and they just run on the Ti side. That kind of wear does not really scare me though, you can compensate for it just by adjusting the pivot, and the more it wears, the slower it wears because of the larger surface area. So essentially it will last life times if maintained.

I'm curious though, I've had the knife for about two years, tomorrow I'll take it apart and see how far it has been warn down.

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I've had my Buck now for a few months and it's been working great.

I gave my Benchmade Mini-Barrage to my sister to carry and she's been digging it.

>>33138860
How much for the Spyderco and the tanto? I wouldn't mind me a cheap beater

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>>33142096
I kind of feel like some of my knives/swords are pretty recognizable from some different Forums, groups, and on YouTube... But no one has noticed yet.

>>33143486
Skall is that you?

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>>33143542
lol no, I'm flattered though .. He's got much better swords than I do, I'm pretty sure he owns like 6 Albions. And I've got much better knives than him.

>>33143630
Metatron?

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>>33143542
>>33143630
And I would like to think I have a better sense of fashion...

>>33143669
No I'm not a big YouTuber, and on YouTube I'm more knife oriented.

>>33143697
pewds?

>>33143697
Cutlerylover?

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Just ordered a Buck Selkirk

Did I do gud

>>33143697
theapostleP

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>>33143542
>>33143669
>>33143924
>>33144107
>>33144130
I like all of them... Ironically Pewds, he has taken a non-cancerous turn over the past year... But once again, I forget how many subs I even have, like around a hundred, haven't posted a video in years.

But I have run into some guys here from the CliffStamp forum, which is a rather small one.

>>33142043
>>33141704
I don't think that's only about not being poor or not. It's about rationalizing it too much. There are other things that I have no problem paying for but somehow knives it's different.

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Thinking about picking up a higher end knife one of these days. I've been thinking about a couple titanium framelocks. I keep going back to the Sebemza, but the price is holding me back, if I can find one used I may hop on it. The Slysz Bowie is also pretty appealing, but not being made in the USA is a minor turn off. If y'all have any suggestions let me know.

>>33145088

PM2 is the highest end knife you'll ever need.

>>33143486
God damn, that's a nice looking sword.

>>33139475
They're fun the first few times it flips open, after that it's just a weird handicap.
>>33139661
Microtech and Benchmade are overpriced as fuck, Boker is mediocre, and like I said, Protechs are nice but they're still autos.
>>33140071
Autos don't open any faster than spring assists, bearing flippers, or a well oiled PB washer flipper/manual. Hell I can open my Spyderco lockback and grip it just as fast as an auto. Pushing a button to deploy the blade isn't any easier than pushing a flipper tab or wrist flicking a thumbstud or even finger flicking a Spyderhole. Yet on closing you have to fight the spring, needlessly making closing/putting away slower and more difficult. Most autos (except for BM's) are plunger-locks which aren't known for their reliability or robustness. Overall, autos are a novelty more than useful cutting tools. You're better off with a good manual id you need a cutting tool. Needing an auto is pretty autistic/mall ninja

>>33130617
wish i could get one of these in canada but the manufacturer won't ship here and no other dealers hold it.

>>33146944
post in the want to buy thread on reddits knife_swap

youll get one

Can someone tell me why people are so hard for Microtech?

Fucking proprietary hardware, horrible clip design, and just mall ninja as fuck appearances.

>>33146936
Emerson with the wave opens quicker than any knife.
Microtech ARE expensive, but no other production auto can beat them for quality. however thier QC is not always that great

>>33148026
>Micro
Because people like them.
Not really mall ninja blades as no mall ninja could afford them.
Maybe Microtech Guy will show up

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>>33145088
>>33145476
The highest end knife he will ever "need" but maybe not the highest end knife he will want. What's wrong with wanting luxurious items?

If you are looking at the $400 range, consider Strider, Hinderer, Brous Blades is pretty great, honestly just go to BladeHQ, knives, folders, and then select Frame Lock, made in the USA, and a price point. Pretty much anything over $100 on BladeHQ is going to be quality, with some exception.

http://www.bladehq.com/cat--Manual-Knives--45#filter:price:250:500/filter:country_of_origin:USA/filter:lock_type:Frame$2520Lock/perpage:100/sort:price_sort_desc:desc

>>33146246
Thanks, I just got it last week, I really like it. Well worth the 9 1/2 week wait and the near $700... at lest's that's what I tell my self.

>>33148026
Proprietary Hardwear is not that bad, in this case I think it looks good enough to justify it. I've got like $50 of Wiha Torx bits for knives, If I bought a $250+ OTF and was crazy enough to want to take it apart, the $30 tool is no big deal. At lest for me. They don't look Mall Ninja to me, fantasy yes, but not Mall Ninja, the difference is that Microtechs have a lot of thought into their design, they have very nice flowing lines and radiused corners.

>>33133425

You don't sharpen your own knives, and are thus not in a position to comment in any way whatsoever on the performance benefits of better steel with better heat treatments.

>>33133709
>Plain edged pocket knife
>To cut wrist thick branches

Wow, that's just about the worst example I've ever seen in my life.

>>33133709
They absolutely Fucking will
That ganzo would be dull as Hell by the end of it.

>>33148617

Proprietary hardware is dog shit unless they give you the tool. For 400 dollars Microtech could do that. They don't.

Also Strider Knives is all hype. 400+ for that crap edge geometry and so little cutting edge? For what purpose? Holy shit just get a fucking fixed blade.

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>>33148826
I know very few knives that actually come with good edge geometry, that's something I almost always re-do when I get a new knife, regardless of price. The only knives I've ever gotten that have amazing geometry where from Gavko (pic related), an A.G. Russel Feather Light, the Spyderco Endura is not bad, and a vintage Puukko I have.

When it comes to the thick over built style, Strider is just as guilty as Hinderer, Spyderco, ZT, ect... I've re-profiled a Strider before, it's not the worst or best I've seen.

As for the cutting edge to handle length, if that's something you particularly care about, than yeah don't get a Strider. I happen to really like finger chiols, my all time Favorite knife is the Spyderco Tuff, which has an even worse edge to handle ratio.

>just get a fucking fixed blade
What if I don't want a fixed blade? I've got plenty of those too, but I'm not going to carry one around Nj with me. I carry one while I'm in Maine. It's different strokes for different folks, and in some case legality.

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Boring but at least not shit.

>>33149518

Striders are just not for me. I don't understand why people are so hard for them, and I don't understand how anybody can justify the price. Sebenza is overpriced at 400 but after handling one, feeling the action and the tolerances, I can get it. Hinderers? I question the concept of a 400 dollar hard use folder but it's undeniably a very well made knife. But Striders? I just don't get it. The quality is not there, the QC is not there, the blade is tiny, it's an ugly knife, I just don't understand.

And I like a good choil like anybody else but what I don't understand is the MASSIVE sharpening choil. What the fuck is up with that on Striders? The thing is like a wedge, a folding pry bar. I'm sorry but to me Striders are all marketing, "super hard use tacticool operator shit for operator" garbage. All the other stuff you listed is fine but I wouldn't put Strider up there, it's like a meme.

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>>33149583
Yeah I can understand your complaints, and I do agree with a lot of it... I'm honestly conflicted with the Sebenza. I've held them, and sharpened one or two of them... They feel great, they look great, and just something about them is good... But under the surface they are so shit, soft tempered s35vn, so soft it may just warp the edge in heavy use, and the lock is so smooth, but so smooth it is supper weak.

Non of these issues are ones that I would run into, because I would carry it as a light EDC knife, with a secondary beater to use in case I need to do any harder tasks... But just the idea of buying a $400+ knife that does not have the base functionality of a $30 American made Kershaw.

Pic related was a customer knife.

>>33149648

Yeah, I agree with you on the Sebenza. When you touch it it's just sexy but then the soul of the knife is the blade and the Sebenza's loses its edge so fast. The thing becomes a status symbol at that point, like that kid's dad's hot car in Ferris Bueller.

Honestly when my knife life began and I started getting into the 100+ dollar knives it was like a new world to me. And I dreamed about getting Sebenxas, Striders, etc. but then you get then and it's a letdown. They're never 400 dollars good. And now Chinese are getting into the really high end shit and stepping it up, and the US makers look even worse in comparison. You can get Chinese S35VN now that performs better than Chris Reeve's for half to a third of the price. Sure, the Sebenza still feels magical in your hand... but how far can that go?

Either way it's an interesting time to be a knife guy.

>>33142171
Sharps.

If I moved to a country where I couldn't really carry a knife around on my person, what am I to do with my collection?

>>33150271

Sell it and buy yourself a male chastity cage like all the other Europeans.

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>>33149725 sorry for the long rant, on my phone, and currently bored in a Calc class

I agree it is an interesting time to be in the knife
Hobby, pretty much any hobby... the internet allows niche hobbies grow. Same with the sword hobby, when I bought my fist sword 7 years ago, it was a different scene.

But I would not lose hope in the high end market, there are a lot of good makers out there.

There is something to be said about not meeting your heros, if you put it up so high, it can never live up to it. My first so called "Grail" knife was the Spyderco Tuff, when I first learned about Spyderco I looked though the catalog and saw the Tuff, their most expensive knife at that time.

It took me like 4 years to get it, and it actually somehow lived up to my expectations... still my favorite knife.

My next grail knife is a Rockstead, likely will be over $1,000, maybe a few years. What I worry is that it will not be as sharp as I think. I'm a knife sharpener, I hope when I get it, it will blow me away and make me strive to improve, or it may confirm that I'm at the limit of sharpening ability.

>>33148617
Al mar name please?

>>33150333
Kek...

>>33150271
But on a serious note. See if there are laws on just carrying but home ownership as well. And if so, get into fixedblades and slip joints, those are legal to own just about anywhere.

There is actually a decently large custom knife market in Britain for fixed blades.

>>33150369

That looks like the Al Mar Eagle Heavy Duty with that super duper ZDP steel.

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>>33150369
It is an Al Mar Eagle HD (heavy duty) with the "talon" grind. This one in blue with a laminated Zpd-189 blade was a Cutlerry Shoppe exclusive (a orange one as well) a year or two ago. Sorry they are no longer in production.

I'm pretty sure you can get it in the laminated blade in Brown or Black for like $210

>>33150337

I haven't had a grail knife in a while, I've been rediscovering cheap knives. But my current grail is a Phil Harvey Gladius. It will be my first truly custom knife and I feel like once I get into full on customs I'll buy 1-3 and then just stop, for my own sanity.

I realized I own no Emersons so the last knife I bought was a Kershaw Emerson and now I think I want a real one.

>>33150412

If you could recommend only one Brous Blades folder to someone that represents the best of the brand what would you recommend?

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ADV Ronin 2016, Tom Krien Shard, ESEE 4, and Leatherman.

Usually have the ADV or Shard on me, but I also carry an Ontario RAT-1 a fair bit.

>>33150597
Krein*

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>>33150552
Well I only have one of his knives, and it's the only one I have handled... but I recommend him because he only uses one steel (last time I looked) and he has that down, he has good eye for ergonomics and design (not all my taste), and his prices scale pretty linearly with material and size.

The knife I got actually had a flaw with it, which I won't hold a single problem against a maker, it's pretty much unavoidable, at lest at production level, as long as it is uncommon. But his customer service is great, I emailed him about the problem (a striped screw) and he paid for the shipping and had a new one back to me with in two weeks, even considering his wife gave birth that week.

So pretty much anything you see from him that suits your fancy, if you can stomach the price, it's probably going to be well made... when I get home I'm going to look and see what he is up to, and what I like.

>>33150597
Nice I like Krien's work, at lest what I've seen, I'm not too farmiliar with his stuff.

>>33150715
For sure, Krein's work is pretty solid. The only thing I disliked about the shard was the pocket clip and that's an easy fix.

>33150552
The T4 or the Strife are the two favorites of the Brous stuff I've owned. The Bionics are nice too, but too small.

>>33144110
Not my favorite steel, but if you like it, cool.

For the money I would've just went with an ESEE or for a stack more a Fallkniven A1.

>>33133789
Sexy combo.

>>33150373
Would opinels be considered "locking" or "non-locking"?

>>33150811
It's locking.

Surprised I haven't seen any Olamic goodness yet.

>>33150811
Yeah it locks, they have the collar lock right?

But it is an interesting distinction. It is a manual lock, it not automatically locking upon opening can put it in a different legal group in some restrictive areas/countries

>>33150885

This is kind of a gray area. Technically it is a locking knife and thus illegal, but it looks old timey and not "tactical" and "scary" so nobody will actually give you any shit for having one.

>>33150871
I like a lot of their designs and hear great things about them, but I've just yet to see anything that really speaks to me, they are on my list for sure though.

>>33150885
That's kind of my point.

Yes, TECHNICALLY is "locks" but it's a small low resistance collar lock. It's manual, not very strong, etc.

So does that get to be considered as "locking" in the legal and traditional sense?

Like, if they legally have an issue with locking folders, does that count as an issue knife?

>>33150903
See ^

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>>33150871
The 247 is bretteh gud.

>>33150932

Eh when I look at a knife like that I pretty much agree with >>33150913. It looks good but it doesn't seduce me. It doesn't make me go "holy shit I need to have that now."

>>33150962
How about a Todd Begg Field Marshall? It's a lot to drop on a knife regardless if you don't dig it. Craftsmanship wise though, great.

>>33150914
It varies to much by country and their definitions to say definitively.

But there are a lot of loop holes in laws, knife laws in particular. I live in Nj, it is illegal to carry Autos, gravity knives, pretty much anything that opens fast... yet any knife with an Emerson Wave opens faster than any auto, at lest in the time it takes from pocket to open in hand.

A spring assist and auto are practically the same, in fact autos are more prone to failure, yet they are illegal and assisted are legal just because one you press a button (action separate from the blade) and the other you have to touch the blade to activate the spring.

>>33150998
Right, that's understandable. In this particular instance I'm referring to Israel.

Which, ironically, has a lot of people carrying fully automatic rifles everywhere, but then again those people are active duty soldiers.

>>33151043

I don't know about Israel but I lived in a similar country, South Korea. A nation where soldiers walk around with guns all the time and you can buy butcher knives literally on the road from street bazaars but something like a Kershaw Skyline is some mystical fucking tacticool assassin switchblade to normal people.

Unless you are dressed and acting like a criminal nobody but the most anal of cops is going to say anything about an Opinel. It is as inoffensive as a non-SAK gets. It's still illegal, they COULD give you shit, but it's unlikely.

>>33151144
That's the general consensus, but is it WORTH it? Is the risk WORTH it, if you are a well dressed upstanding looking well spoken American with no bad record?

Would they detect it at every doorway and bitch and moan?

>>33151211

You might get the "why do you have a knife?" question and then have to have some guard hold it while you go do whatever business you have to do in some building. It would be really inconvenient and annoying.

>>33151229
What's a good answer there.

"For food/ eating" maybe with an Opinel?

>>33151211
>>33151043

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/600479-israel-knife-carry-laws

Here, a guy from Israel talks about carrying in Israel. All locking folders are illegal and you are going to have to declare you have a knife and probably have a guard hold onto it if you go in a high security area. If it has a lock it's only legal if you can explain having it with a legitimate reason. I would guess if your job involves trade you can say you need a knife to cut into merchandise like fruits or whatever to justify it.

HOWEVER, it seems like what others have been saying about not having much trouble if you look respectable and are not carrying a "scary" knife applies. The knife laws are vague. Technically they can give you trouble for having anything but a SAK, and it's all up to the officer's discretion. But if you aren't carrying a threatening "tactical" knife and behaving respectably and aren't in a high security area nobody is going to hassle you as apparently SAKs are common so most people are carrying some sort of tool.

tl;dr carrying a knife in Israel is for the most part no different than carrying in Shitain or Jew York Shitty. Just be smart about it and don't carry your five inch Cold Steel folding sword with "Cunt Destroyer" written on the blade.

>>33151307
>What's a good answer there
Stab them.

>>33151314
So a spyderco manix 2 is out of question?

>>33151352

Yeah, that is not going to fly unless you have a real damn good reason. For Opinel though I doubt you will have many problems, if questioned just say "it's for work." Just be cool. Say you're sorry but you didn't know, and you have a reason for it. I hope you work in like food or shipping or something to justify having the knife or can at least bullshit.

>>33151378
T-T-Tech. ;_;

>>33151397

Fuck, man. I guess if you don't want to outright bullshit, you can say you have to deal with inventory and process a lot of cardboard and you prefer using your own knife to a boxcutter. I dunno, it would be placing your fate into the cop's hands. Even so, as long as you look unthreatening and it is an Opinel and you play it cool and friendly, I would bet 99% of the time they're just going to let you off with a warning at worst.

But yeah read that Bladeforums thread.

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>>33129581
In with the 0095 and this bitch can slice.

>>33151477
>Unblemished factory coating

How would you know?

>>33151524
The dlc is pretty tough and I got it in November. We will see how camping goes.

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Pic related arrives thursday. How'd I do for a spontaneous buy for a sale? Cold Steel Leatherneck Tanto

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>>33151477
The 0095 and more so the 0055 are on my list to get this summer.

>>33150552
>>33150661
My favorite Brous designs are the Parallax and T4, you can tell I'm a fan of swept back bellies with a dropping point.

>>33151641
Depends, is it the newer (by new I mean, like past 2 years) D2 blades or the older 4116 blades. If it's D2, than yeah it's good, but I have had a bad past with 4116, and the fact that they put it on a mid sized fixed blade is beyond me.

>>33151704
D2 German steel with the "DLC" coating. $120 after shippong from manufacturer

>>33151717
Always check other retailers. Especially with Cold Steel.
https://www.amazon.com/Cold-Steel-Leatherneck-Tanto-Fixed/dp/B00U1IA308

suggestions for a cheap ish but still decent kitchen knife?
dont care too much about the style and id like something not huge

>cheap
>good blade steel that will keep an edge for long time
>dishwasher safe ( more or less)

>>33151747
Damn i coulda got it for $55 less at amazon huh. Thanks for the info

>>33151641
>>33151704
So cold steels are actually good? I just assumed they were pieces of shit because of their retarded ass commercials where I can't tell if they're joking or not

>>33151774
I would never put anything other than my dollar tree kitchen knives in the dishwasher (and they're flimsy and falling apart now). It's really not good for things with handles at all

>>33152459
Their knives are actually decent. The carpenter steel folders are great even.

People sperg out about their swords and what not, and reasonably so, but then again... who actually needs a sword?

>>33152476
>who actually needs a sword?
Well, I don't NEED any of my knives or guns for that matter, if you look at it like that

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>>33152459
Yes most of their knives are good. I would even recommend some as my top pick for some price range, like the Code4. Their machetes are good as well if you are willing to put a little work into them from factory. Their swords are to be avoided though, they have so much potential to be good, but they seem not to care enough to fix a few things.

I own quite a few Cold Steel Knives (folders and fixed), and machetes;
-Recon Tanto San Mia (pic related)
-Code4
-Medium Voyager
-Mini Recon One
-Xl Voyager
-Xl Espada G-10
-Pocket Bushman
-Cutlass Machete
-Chines War Sword Machete
-21" Latin Machete
-Scimitar Spike

Those are all I can think of that I currently own atm

>>33151774

Zwilling knives made out of Cronidur 30 are probably the only good cutlery steel knives with enough corrosion resistance to not rust in a dishwasher, though you still should never run them in the dishwasher.

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Do i fit in here?

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Can anyone tell me whether it's legal to carry a big fixed-blade knife in your vehicle in California?

If it is legal, can it be within reach?
Does it have to be totally visible? ie. sheathed under seat, under dash

>>33152761
I think you have to cut your balls off with it then turn it into your local sheriff's office

>>33152784
California has already wrecked my butt beyond repair. Im now loose enough to use my anus as a third hand to hold a knife. Hence, i'm looking for knife carrying options until then.

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>>33152737
Yes Benchmades are welcome here... I don't own any personally but this is one I sharpened.

>>33152737
Love the 761 (iirc?), but I hate that you have to have them tapped for tip up carry.

>>33152900
The 0562cf is without a doubt one of the best EDCs on the market for the money.

>>33152521
Let's rephrase it.

You can use your knife everyday for practical tasks.

Your gun? Less often, but it's a tool that serves a purpose.

The sword is just a fun thing. Period.

>>33152761
Can any Californians answer this?

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>>33150932

I've got a 247 coming my way in a few weeks. I'm really tempted to try and line up a custom from them but I can't decide how I want it done up and there are a ton of other knives I want first.

Buying the spantoon as a user basically sent my knife budget into space because I don't give a fuck about paying firearm prices for blades anymore.

>>33151524

ZT's dlc holds up pretty well. You aren't going to damage it very easily unless you're misusing the knife or being a retard on purpose. Their "stonewash" dlc probably won't show obvious signs of use for a while.

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Looking for a new knife and I narrowed it down to two knives.a we knives 701b (pictured) or a kershaw knockout. The we knife is substantially more expensive being 100 dollars,while the knockout can be had between 40-50 bucks.

>>33153084
What's wrong with tip up carry? I never have a problem with it.

>>33152900
You mean somebody shelled out the money for a benchmade but can't sharpen it themselves?

Need sharpening advice. Posted here before about having problems sharpening my Benchmade Adamas. After viewing photos online of what it should look like and what I have I'm not surprised. Bought it secondhand and it pretty much came with what looks like a convex grind gone wrong. I've been trying to give it a working edge with no luck. Should I just send it in or try to give it a micro bevel?

>>33153575
He was saying you had to tap it for tip up carry. It's tip down carry only.

>>33153345
The Knockout, esp. in Elmax, is a little more practice. The WE stuff is pretty neat though.

>>33153711
What are you sharpening with?

>>33153775
Using DMT pocket stones. More comfortable free handing that using a guided system.

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I fell for the ZT meme. Thing is a POS. Came to me with the blade touching the frame, tried loosening everything and shifting the frame, didn't work very well... tightening the pivot screw to center it would make it impossible to open... sent it to ZT to get fixed, got it back perfectly center, but completely impossible to open... all they did was tighten the pivot screw. After buying new brass spacers and some file work, it's not terribly off center anymore, but still annoys me. Hours of work I shouldn't have had to do.

>>33153826
Is that the 0560BW? I'll throw you an Hogue EX-01 manual 4'' for it bby.

>>33153884
My blood has gone into this fucker. I'll be damned if I admit defeat.

>>33153826
P.S. I like to lube it up a bit and it can take a bit of patience and fiddling to get a knife perfectly center but still balance for it to fly open and drop shut.

One of the easiest things you can do is to polish the area where the caged bearings sit. That goes for just about any knife with the exception of some midtechs and customs.

>>33153826
That sucks. My ZT knives have functioned flawlessly.

>>33153810
It takes a bit of time to learn the feel of freehanding especially without any sort of guides. If you're using one of DMTs pro-align w/e kits it'll be easier. Otherwise I'd probably try and stay at around 25 degrees. Not as sharp as say 17 degrees, but it'll be serviceable and easier to pull off by hand.

Practice on some junk knives first maybe. D2 is fairly tough so it'll probably take a little longer than some 420 junker.

There are a ton of knife sharpening guides out there too and it's a rewarding skill that'll you'll be able to use forever.

Considering a good knife sharpening service can easily run you $30-50, it's a small fortune over your lifetime.

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>>33153105
It's one of my most carried. Along with my Tux Kwaiken.

>>33153331
Yeah the DLC coating on my 0770cf M4 has held up great, DLC in general is very good.

>>33153601
Actually I find it more common for people with high end knives to use a sharpening service. Sometimes it's because they are afraid to sharpen their high end stuff, and/or don't have the time, interest, or money to get their own sharpening equipment. And also, at the end of the day, I've got well over a grand of equipment I use, and years of experience, my edge is going to look better and be sharper, unless they are willing to buy a lot of equipment and dedicate hundreds of hours.

>>33153826
You've posted it before... and like before, Idk what to tell you, I personally own 2 ZTs, and I know a lot of people who own ZTs, and I've sharpened a bunch of them. They all are near perfect, outstanding for the price point. I've only had one issue with one, the spring assist on my 0770cf M4 snapped, but their customer service was great (along with my run in's with Kershaw Customer Service) and they were very fast to mail me a replacement part when I said I could do it myself.

>>33153810

Well, your choices are to grind in your own edge bevel using a really coarse stone, or send it to BM and make them do it.

If you have a DMT XXC or XC, it shouldn't take THAT much time to cut in a new edge bevel. That's only if you are comfortable freehanding an edge bevel, mind you.

>>33153995
I've got that same ontari bowie.

Don't have the wicked edge though. :(

>>33153995

Let's be serious, the people who buy high end knives and don't sharpen themselves are mostly pocket jewelry collectors.

It's just not practical to get that much use out of your knives if you can't keep them touched up and sharpened regularly yourself, and being afraid of dulling an edge you can't restore yourself discourages you from actually using the knife.

Mind you, I am a bit biased as I've spent more on sharpening equipment than knives.

>>33153998
Got the xc but still having issues. Think I'm having a problem hitting the apex since the bevel is so convexed. Not sure what angle I should go for cause of it.

>>33154054

What I mean is you are going to have to create a new edge bevel at the angle you choose, as in replacing the convex with a V edge bevel at the angle you set. This is a time consuming process to do on a pocket DMT XXC, but it can be done.

If you aren't comfortable spending the time or setting the angles by eye, then I would recommend sending it to BM to fix, or to a hand sharpening service to do.

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>>33154019
Yeah the SP-10 is a fun knife. It comes with a stupid thick edge though, and before I reground it, it pretty much would bounce of wood and not bite in. Actually just tonight I worked on polishing the grind a little... It's going to need a lot of work, I need to buy a 400 grit stone for the rough work, and a 3,000ish stone to make my 6,000 and 8,000 work less. pic related.

I've had the Wicked Edge for 4 years, it's long since payed for it's self and most of my collection. I'm planing on getting a Tormek T8 next though, I've found most my customers rather pay less for a good (not perfect) edge with a fast run around, the Wicked Edge is not suited for this.

>>33154040
I kind of agree, but you would be surprised. I have very few customers who just send me a knife in every time it is dulled. I suggest long term plans, and suggest basic maintenance equipment, like strops and maybe a Sharpmaker.

Most of my clients are chefs, and they send in their knives every 3-6 months for me to re-set the bevel and work out any edge damage. When I do get in high end pocket knives, sometimes they just got the knife, they want me to thin the edge and give it a good polish, from there they will just micro bevel it as it gets dull. If this is the case, it can go years with out needing a full resharpening (depending on work load) And yes, sometimes it's just pocket jewelry.

>>33153995
>>33154040
Interesting points there. I guess i don't understand that mentality though, i sharpen all my knives myself, after i realised i was going to start a collection i spent a fair amount of time and money on learning how to sharpen and equipment. I love my knives and it's kind of a "bonding" and getting to know your knife. Secondly, i shelled out a lot of cash for my stuff, I'll be damned if I'm going to trust someone else sharpening it

>>33154439
Chefs? What the fuck? As an exec chef, if any of my chefs used a sharpening service i would get them out of the kitchen for a few days and teach them proper knife maintenance. A chef is worthless without good knives and good understanding of how to keep your knives

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>>33154468
I feel about the same. I'm still in the process of kind of universalizing all the edges of my knives. I'm going to start a sharpening log for my personal knives, a sheet of paper that states the primary bevel angle, and I'll note the successive micro bevels as I touch them up over the years. I'll keep it in the top of my pelican case above the foam.

There are a lot of bad knife sharpeners out there, either they don't know better, or just don't care.

>>33154507
I'm actually always a little surprised too. Most of them seem to know how to maintain there knives for a long time, like micro-beveling and all of that, but it seems like re-setting the bevel is what a lot of people are afraid of. Or they just send it in when there is a lot of damage, like pic related.

>>33154439
>>33154507

You'd be amazed at how long the apex on a good chef's knife will last if it's kept touched up regularly on a pasted strop.

I have a gyuto in Aogami Super that was last fully sharpened around 6 months ago and is just kept touched duo between uses using a balsa strop pasted with 16 micron CBN emulsion. It will still pushcuts newsprint across the grain at 90 degrees.

This is possible with a chef's knife since almost all the apex wear is from microscopic chipping or rolling from contacts with the cutting board. So long as you don't let too much damage accumulate between touch ups, this type of wear can usually be removed with ~10 passes per side on a pasted strop.

With pocket knives it's not so easy because they are subject to a lot more abrasive wear in cutting cardboard, rope, carpet, paperboard, etc. and thus typically need to be sharpened MUCH more frequently to be kept at a high level of sharpness.

>>33131100
I love Schrade. good beater knives.>>33132242
this guys says the temper is shit then take the handles off and toss that thing in the oven at the highest heat (450f-500f) for 2 hours. let it normalize by cooling to room temperature. That'll soften it up a little bit.

What do you think of your Sog salute? I got the mini salute and I love the thing. robust as a rock.

>>33133789
>ESEE 6
>too small to be an effective chopper, too big to do any actual carving
heard only bad things over on /out/

trying to build a suit EDC, any recommended knives for suit jacket carry?

I prefer fixed blade but i can do folding if fixed blade is an impossibility.

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>>33156563
fixed suit EDC, lol what? what are you looking to spend?


Bark River Knives Bravo EDC is a very nice and classy edc. but the price is a lot. I hear that they are top tier knives though
https://www.knivesshipfree.com/bark-river-knives-bravo-edc-elmax/

>>33156517
>/out/
>memers who spam misinformation they heard once
pick 2

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Got Kershaw Amplitude 2.5 as my first knife.
Love the design of it. Very sleek looking.
Any similar knives?

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>>33157066
>Any similar knives?
Amplitude 3.5

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>>33157134
p-pls..

>>33156517
You don't know what you're talking about.

>>33157455
ok buddy. too bad it IS too big for any sustained practical small camp chores, so i'm at least 50% right on that one.

as for it being too small for a chopper, my guess is yes, and other people agree with me.

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>>33157496
Fucked up some trees pretty good. You've probably never held one though.

>>33157511
>You've probably never held one though
I haven't, hence my saying >heard only bad things over on /out/

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>>33157511
for reference, my chopper is an Anaconda 7b

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>>33157496

lolno

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>>33157569
That's cute... And this is before I re-profiled it.

Kind of a bump post.

I'm looking for a fancy, classy, "dress-knife". A gentleman's blade, if you will. I'd like something sleek and could conceal easy with a nice suit. Price isn't a huge factor - I'm going for "impressive". What are your thoughts/recommendations?

>>33129827
i like my buck bhw bantam. there's stronger knives but it's affordable and super light.

>>33132437
noice

>>33152825
kek the term should be "california carry"

>>33159639
My personal choices would be a custom or midtech Olamic, CRK Sebenza/Umnumzaan/Inkosi, Grayman Satu, TSF Gorgon, Todd Begg Bodega, etc.

If you could get a fixed-blade knife custom made, what geometry would you guys go with?

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>>33159977

~7.5" OAL
FFG
.100" or less at the spine
.030-.035" at 1/4" behind the apex
~0.010" at 1/32" behind the apex
Index finger balanced
Very high hardness, high apex stability steel.

Pic related is 0.060" at the spine and meets the rest of the criteria.

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>>33159977
Well I did not have it made for my self, but these are custom knives, and Gavko knows his geometries. Pic related is >>33149518

That being said, I've always loved the look of the Marfione Nightmare grind, as impractical as it is, it's sexy as hell.

>>33132351
>objectively
Disagree. They're easy to sharpen and great for light use. If you're looking for something that you can put a more acute angle edge on and push down hard on and drag across wood at a wonky angle without rolling, yeah, you want something heat treated harder and with a less acute edge angle (but not so hard that it'll chip or break). The part of the blade that he's only using to cut rope is fine. It warps where he's putting a lot of pressure on it. This is how people chip/crack/break very hard knife edges. They let them get dull, then have to put a lot of pressure on them to cut, while pushing down at a bad angle on a hard surface.
Not all pocket knives have to be chisels.

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>>33160347

Underhardened s35vn is BOTH more prone to apex failures through rolling and through chipping.

And a higher hardness is objectively better up until the point where you begin to risk gross failures through brittleness.

A blade that rolls like that against a cutting board is simply hot steaming garbage, and CRKs continued success is proof that large portions of the online knife community are gullible pocket jewelry buying shmucks who use their knives so little they wouldn't be able to tell if CRK switched to 420J2 for their blades.

>>33160386
>wouldn't be able to tell

well, they'd probably get cheaper...

oh, wait...

>>33160386
[citations needed]

>>33160443

Literally every kitchen knife on earth, you enormous CRK shilling faggot.

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>>33160347
Minus the harshness, I have to agree with >>33160386 and >>33160451.

Here is the odd thing about knife edges, while cutting soft mediums, relative edge retention actually goes up as you thin the edge, assuming the steel has good edge stability, this concept scales down to extreme thinness, we are talking 3ish degrees per side. Of course that's not practical for any lateral pressure would warp/chip the edge.

I can run a 64hrc ZPD-189 or CPM-M4 blade at 15 degrees just as well as I can run a s35vn blade that is hard or soft hardened. Now it will take more time, and it will take more skill, but I can get just as fine edge, from a practical stand point (not talking theoretical max sharpness).

I agree running s35vn soft makes it more serviceable, probably not enough to say you could sharpen one well and the other worse, it's not worth it, it sacrifices edge stability too much. If he truly carried about ease of sharpening, why not go for 420ch? Very easy to sharpen and with a proper heat treat and a slightly thinner edge, it would out perform the s35vn that he is currently using.

Now I actually really like his designs, he really changed the knife market with the Sebenza... And I'm even willing to look past the lock strength problems since it is a "Gentleman" carry... But idk if I can look past the edge performance. I'm going to buy one at some point specifically to test and compare. See if I can get the same results as Jdavis.

>>33160386
>>33160451
If your're using kitchen knives like that, you have no idea what you're doing or you simply don't care about keeping a very sharp blade. Sharp enough is what people have gone by in kitchens for a very long time, unless you're talking about sushi prep, in which case your teacher would shit all over you for abusing your knives. You should rarely need that kind of pressure to cut something in the kitchen, and if you do need it for something like butternut squash, you don't have a very sharp knife to begin with and you surely don't use your fillet knife for it.

>>33160927
Really not need to use that kind of pressure*

>>33142139
cuz i'm a heug faget.
that's why.

am I the only one who has an absolute throbbing erection for ww2 fairburn sykes knives?

>>33160443
This is a Spyderco Mule Team in Maxamet at ~70 HRC whittling bamboo chopsticks in a deliberately abusive manner:

https://youtu.be/6FhWZsO3ef4

The only damage that results from this much more demanding apex strength testing is some tiny microscopic apex chipping.

I would expect literally any properly heat treated cutlery steel to be able to whittle hardwoods without significant apex damage, much less cutting rope on a cutting board.

I would regard a failure of the type J Davis experienced to be definitive proof of a botched heat treatment and would expect a warranty replacement.

>>33161227
They look cool as heck but are completely useless for things other than stabbing people, which jumbles my utilitarian jimbos something fierce

I want a Kukri, what would you recommend?

>>33162244
Well that depends on price and size... How large you want it and how much you want to pay? Do you actually want to use it for woods use, or just to have? And do you care about it being historical or traditional?

>>33162244
Ontario Knife Company, Ka-Bar, or Cold Steel.

There are other options out there, but those three are decent kukri machetes that are still affordable.

If you go with a traditional it doesn't hurt to be picky and go with a reputable vendor instead of one of the paki mystery steel or chinesium kukris.

>>33159904
Thanks. I like the look of the CR knives.

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>>33162690
another gullible fool falls for the trap.

for the price, you could get a Spartan Blades: Akribis. a better knife with a better heat treat

>>33162690
>CR knives

wot?

>>33163021
>CR Knives
>Chris Reeve Knives

Normally abbreviated CRK, but CR Knives is somewhat common too.

>>33163561
Is there a Chris Reeves kukri? I know they do fixed blades too, I just haven't seen a kukri from them.

>>33151774
The Victorinox chef/kitchen knives are amazing for the price.

>>33163626
I'm guessing not... Nor would a want one... I very rarely say this about a knife, but I think his fixed blades are really over priced considering for much less you can get American made fixed blades of a similar or higher quality, and using significantly better material. Pretty much the only reason to buy a fixed blade from him is if you really love the design or just for collection.

More so I would have to look at his heat treat for fixed blades and see if they are "soft for ease of sharpening".

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>>33163626
But if you want to throw a crap ton at a Kukri, look at the RMJ Tactical Kukri. They are like $500ish if I recall.

>>33161227
>>33161300
>fairburn sykes knives
Who makes a good one?

>>33163722
That does look fantastic, but the price tag is too much for something I'll abuse. I'd rather stick with ESEE and TOPS. That's a little more my speed.

At $500 I'd want something custom, maybe not a Loveless, but something unique and nice. I honestly won't ab/use a fixed blade at that price.

>>33159639
Microtech D/A OTF or Halo (if you don't mind a larger single-action). It's more of a high-tech classy, even if the knives range from tacticlol to dumb but neat. Prices start at about $210 and go up to over 1k.

They don't meet all of your requirements but they sure are impressive.

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>>33163798
Maybe the Cold Steel Gurka Kukri in O-1 then. I've been meaning to get one for a long time.. Condor has one, but I don't think it is that good of a shape for actual use (and reviews seem to find the same).

And then there are the Kabar, Ontarios, pretty much every large fixed blade maker has one, but they maybe more machete like or come with a really thick edge. That's why I like the Cold Steel one.

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>>33163910
And more than likely illegal to carry in most places and likely to scare sheeple...

I like OTF's and Microtech, but they are not what comes to mind when I think "Gentleman edc"

What is the general outlook towards putting custom handle scales on folders? It's not regarded in the same way as bubba-ing, is it?

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>>33164084
idk what the opinion is on /k but in the knife "community" as a whole it's pretty common. It was a lot more popular a few years ago, especially with in the YouTube circle.

It was/is called "pimping" and "modifying".

The most popular one was the Boker Gen-1 Kwaiken. Even a lot of the higher end custom guys bought Kwaikens to have them customized. I bought mine, but never did anything with it.

>>33163701
Holy shit you are a smartass and a dumbfuck all in one. Are all /k/ namefags this shitty? Does /k/ encourage it?

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>>33164197
And your reasoning? I stand by what I said, I think his fixed blades are over priced from a performance stand point, and they are not really worth it unless you particularly like one of his designs/collection. More so using a high end steel and handicapping one of the things that makes it good, for the sake of "ease of sharpening" is thoroughly retarded.

I did not look up if he actually makes a kukri or not because I'm on my phone (in class) atm, and did not feel like it.

As far as I can tell, at lest in this thread, and most knife/swords threads the past few weeks, I'm the only one explicitly using the name "namefag". Or if you are referring to namefags as a whole, you are probably wrong, because I have explicitly had different views from other name fags, so at lest not all of us are shitty all the time.

>>33164084
Very common whether it's homemade, custom, or from some company like AWT.

I've only got custom scales on my Ontario RAT-1, but it does a little justice for a somewhat underrated knife.

Are Browning Knives any good? There's one on sale for 20 bucks that looks kinda nice.
If not then I think I'll get a Buck Knife

>>33165083
My general rule of thumb is to avoid knives from gun manufacturers, 9/10 times they are pretty crap. They are targeting people who are fans of their guns, who may not know much about knives, and just buy it off of the Brand name and not the merits of if the knife is good or not.

But there are exceptions. What knife in particular are you looking at, and for how much?

>>33160014

Any chance we could get a shot of the spine? Been jelly of your caltons for almost a year now, one day I'll have the scratch to spend on one of my own.

>>33165083
If you know your budget and what you want it for we can find you a knife. There are several knife buying guides floating around, too.

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>>33165277

Here's a spine shot comparing it to a 3mm spine Spyderco Caly 3.5 in ZDP-189.

The Calton makes it look like a pig. You wouldn't believe the cutting performance of a blade that thin at ~62 HRC. It probably cuts with less force when dull than some of my thicker knives do when sharp.

>>33163701
What are some decent American made fixed blades for EDC? Like 3-4'' blades

>>33164001
Which Al Mar is that? I always like the looks of Al Mar knives, but I've never even held one. :(

>>33165488

After my experiences with my reground Mantra I'm very excited to handle something with a similar grind on thinner stock. I'll probably pick one up as a graduation gift to myself. Very excited.

>>33165623

Joe makes great knives and has always been a pleasure to deal with for me. I think you'll be amazed at what 1095 can do with a modern high performance heat treatment and blade geometry.

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>>33165571
Look at knives from Tops, Buck (some of them), Esee, Ontario, Kabar, ect... for entry level stuff, most of it is pretty good, there are bound to be some that fit your needs.

For upper end; Check out Bark River Knives, they make a lot of cool EDC fixed blades, Murry Carter is out standing if you can get a hold of one (he maybe Canadian), Gavko if you can get a hold of one (these are mind >>33149518), and if you can afford it BlackHeart Cutlery has a EDC sized knife that looks out standing.

>>33165584
That one was a Customer knife, a Al Mar Hawk with the Talon blade. I have an Eagle (ZPD-189 laminated) as well.

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>>33165584
Here fixed that pic.

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>>33165571
This is the Blackheart Pike I was talking about... CPM-3v, with a nice thin convex, unfortunately $335.

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>>33165204
Thanks for the advice
This is the knife I'm looking at
Its about 20 bucks

>>33165459
Care to post a guide? As far as my budget goes I'd say... $80?
I've been eyeing some Buck Knives as well.

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>>33166292
Yeah sure. For sub $80, I highly recommend the Cold Steel Code4 at $75ish, the Bowie and Spear point (I find) are more useful than the Tanto for utility. I always carry mine if I know I'm going to need good strong folder. Pic related is mine.

It's pretty much alone in my normal $50-$100 suggestions... Notable though are the Spyderco Endura ($65ish), it's a very good slicer but more delicate, and the Spyderco Manix 2. Also the Benchmade mini Griptilian, I've never been a fan personal.

For sub $50 the Kershaw Skyline (I own a few variations) and the Kershaw Link, both made in America for $40ish. Also the Cold Steel Medium Voyager and Ontario RAT 1 are good.